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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 03 2014 22:15 GMT
#1721
nice commenting on everything i wrote mm
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
September 03 2014 22:18 GMT
#1722
@Holyflare I'm writing some stuff up but since you posted that, why do you feel sure on Oats?
Is it more from townreading marv or scumreading oats?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 03 2014 22:20 GMT
#1723
he posted that he was sheeping marv after he scum read him as if it was a useful comment, he's also been very sure of things like "NUUU it's a town tell" and "no bla bla is definitely mafia" while ignoring everyone else

i wouldn't honestly be surprised if wave was mafia with oats though
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:21 GMT
#1724
On September 03 2014 09:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town


no no no no no no no no no no no EVERYONE was on bunnies when you posted this slip.... wade hadn't flipped town yet THERE WAS NO POSSIBLE WAY TO KNOW THAT BUNNIES WAS MAFIA AT THIS POINT



On September 01 2014 11:24 Amiko wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=71#1408
Just noting that mysterymeat voted in the thread for bunnies, but not in the voting thread-

He isn't voting bunnies in the vote thread, but if you were to consider him as voting for bunnies it would confirm at least one mafia is voting on bunnies currently (HolyFlare and WaveofShadow are also voting for bunnies)

I'm not really sold on lilwade or bunnies yet, but worth noting if only so mysterymeat votes int he right place. I'm probably going to do some brainless stuff (league / hearthstone / etc) tonight and take another crack at the game tomorrow.


It wasn't a slip, all you've been doing is going through my filter and throwing scum on me. Amiko was the first to point out that all three of us were voting, and that there was confirmed one mafia voting. At the time i thought, bunnies was scummy so of course i would say one mafia is voting on their partner.

@HF, please explain your townread on marv, and why switching my votes is a scum indicator.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 03 2014 22:24 GMT
#1725
why the fuck would you care where your vote is 5 minutes before deadline if everyone is unanimous on lilwade??????? what would it achieve other than you wanting to look better????

and no i'm absolutely not buying that you "thought bunnies was mafia so said partner", that's complete crap! obviously one mafia is voting on bunnies but that's not what i'm saying is the slip

partner
partner
partner
partner
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 03 2014 22:26 GMT
#1726
if you're honestly telling me it's not a slip and you are town then you are letting wave get away with murder/the game
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:27 GMT
#1727
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 03 2014 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 05:20 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I think i'd probably go for bunnies as the mafia in this situation. I think professor apathy is town for voting on lil wade, and i'm not sure on how to read lilwade, but from the games that i've played with bunnies her play as town has definitely been different. If bunnies does flip mafia, then the chance that ritoky was scum over BH increases in my mind. I did sheep ritoky's reads because everyone was claiming that he was town, but rereading the thread i don't really see where all of that was coming from.

##Vote: 27NinjaBunnies

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On September 01 2014 06:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Also reading back on bunnies filter it seemed like she was like oh, i know ritoky is mafia, im going to vote on him to get me some points later. Oh everyone thinks hes town? time to vote for someone else. Thats how i interpreted that response

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 07:01 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I just think your playing different then how you played in our first game together, granted that it was like 3 months ago

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 07:04 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I think your scum vOv,

you also tried to first appeal to my emotions, which i don't think you would usually do


lots of super scum reads on bunnies, so many scum reads! Wagon atm: Bunnies .....vote now on: bunnies




Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 11:36 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I'm rethinking my position on bunnies, Like you noted above, bunnies does vote for BH over BSnacks, at a time when the votes were pretty close.


^^^^ toad case THAT ALSO RELATES TO LILWADE WTF WADE ALSO VOTES BH OVER BSNACKS so bs reason to switch. Current wagon at time: bunnies with sentiment to wade ..... current vote: bunnies

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On September 01 2014 16:37 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Im just wary that we know at least one mafia is voting on their partner. I dont like wades recent response but i still bunnies is pretty scummy. As for voting only in this thread, i just forgot.


I find ot funny that both you and hf think im scum


current wagon: just onto lilwade now
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 01:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Going to work and i probably wont be able to check my phone. Gonna stick to my gut read on bunnies T.T

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 01:50 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Ah screw it lilwade it is

current wagon: lilwade.... current vote: now conveniently lilwade

so he spends all this time on bunnies but then the wagon switches to town lilwade and all his scum reads totally fall out of the window and his reason to switch is apathy's convincing case which applied to wade too, then WITH 5 MINUTES TO GO SWITCHES BACK TO BUNNIES????????? Not only that but in the post that I keep referring to as the slip he says "i'm wary because mafia are voting their partner" when 3 people in our cell were voting bunnies. The wagon was on bunnies at this time and lilwade hadn't flipped town yet so there is absolutely NO way that anyone knows if mafia are voting for their partner or for a towny. He should have been EVEN MORE WARY when the wagon speedy went to unanimous wade but he WAS NOT AT ALL.

He also tries to justify his calling bunnies mafia before wade even flipped town here:

On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town






When you piece together the above with:

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 07:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
The only thing im scared about atm, is that HF is also trying to bury you and i think he could be mafia in my group. Due to the fact that he's been saying that everything i've said is scummy since my intro post.


If you see someone trying to question the hell out of your scum read then why would this be questionable at all??? If he has a town read on wave, like I did, then who else does he think I would be calling scum in our group? Some magical non-being? Either way, wade flips town, mm1 doesn't even rethink over this read at all but instead says "hm that guy who tried to bury probable MAFIA must also be MAFIA with her". No. Who does that?!

Instead, out of the blue it's:

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 07:24 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I just hope we lynch correctly today so we can lynch HF tomorrow


kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk


also, sarcastic comments about how this day is productive but then afking, + other tidbits which i cba to talk about



This is actually a shit post.

I don't have perfect information, and if you think that Apathy was the scum in that group i could see why sheeping his read would be bad.

However you voted on lilwade as well. If you look at the game, i only sheeped people who everyone was convinced they were town. There was no way in Hell, apathy or ritoky were going to get lynched. I already admitted earlier when i sheeped ritoky that i wasn't caught up in the thread due to pax.

Also i like how the your finishing post is 2 days after my the second to last post.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 03 2014 22:28 GMT
#1728
On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town


you also never said that yesterday, what you just wrote is completely different from this! ^^^^

in this post you retroactively say it like it was after wade flipped town so obviously bunnies was mafia but now you have changed your story
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:28 GMT
#1729
just because you underline and bold stuff and repeat stuff doesn't make you sound smarter HF
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:29 GMT
#1730
if you look at my posts which you quoted, you can already see that i thought bunnies was mafia for most of the day
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:30 GMT
#1731
I'm at the point where mafia was

BH
bunnies
your mom (confirmed)
HF
probably marv
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
September 03 2014 22:30 GMT
#1732
@Holyflare
- Any particular reason why you asked WaveofShadow in particular if he was vt (the d1 trap thing)?
I'm wondering why you didn't ask me or Apathy or someone else who was also on at the time since Wave didn't answer at first

- Did you ever answer this one from Wave on Oats?
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2014 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 01:58 Holyflare wrote:
Is this the famous oats with too much information? Looks like it is to me.

I'm not following this.
You think Oats has TMI and is scum, and so is saying BH is town?



@WaveofShadow
- When we were voting on lilwade you were pointing to NRHF as having really poor posting on D2.
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 02 2014 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Where is fake holyflare?
His totality of D2 posting has been absolutely horrible, mostly basing his apparent current dump vote on bunnies on weird meta shit. Did no one else pick up on this?
and you still seemed interested him here + Show Spoiler +
On September 02 2014 03:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 03:25 Holyflare wrote:
On September 02 2014 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Where is fake holyflare?
His totality of D2 posting has been absolutely horrible, mostly basing his apparent current dump vote on bunnies on weird meta shit. Did no one else pick up on this?


yes but he isn't being voted on today

Well now you guys have got me thinking about who is voting for whom and when, and I absolutely hate NRHF's vote and the circumstances behind it. But I also remember not minding the wagon on bunnies when it initially started and I think he was on it then too.

I think the fact that bunnies came back and was giving reads/answering questions freely without being asked despite the fact that she was essentially off the hook may clinch it for me. That one is also unlike the D1/BH.
##unvote
##vote: lilwade


I have another 45 min or so then it's only phoneposting if at all until usual time.

There's some justification to not suspect NRHF in the second post (based on his vote timings - I'll take a look at that since I'm not sure) but is there a reason why you moved toward voting for your mom without continuing to suspect or questioning NRHF?
You did call NRHF town later (when it was revealed it was HaruRH) but you seemed to back off of him before that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 03 2014 22:30 GMT
#1733
if it's a shit post then why have 3-4 people agreed with it?
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:31 GMT
#1734
who agreed with it?
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:32 GMT
#1735
On September 03 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
There's no possible way that town mysterymeat scum reads 27ninjabunnies but then when holyflare comes along and starts questioning ninjabunnies he says "oh you're pressuring my scum read a lot you are probably scum in my cell! that's super weird of you!"



I would like to clarify this as well,

at the time i was probably thinking that you were scummier than WOS, and if the person i think could be scum is questioning someone, at that point i would probably get a town feeling from the person being questioned
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:33 GMT
#1736
On September 04 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
he posted that he was sheeping marv after he scum read him as if it was a useful comment, he's also been very sure of things like "NUUU it's a town tell" and "no bla bla is definitely mafia" while ignoring everyone else

i wouldn't honestly be surprised if wave was mafia with oats though


Also please elaborate on this as well,
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:37 GMT
#1737
On September 04 2014 07:31 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
who agreed with it?


Wow, reading through the thread, i counted 1 person who actually agreed with that post. That one person was Marv, who just chimed in to say, that he was with you.

Way to lie HF! ^^
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
September 03 2014 22:39 GMT
#1738
On September 04 2014 07:13 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
i'd probably go for marv, i honestly think the only reason he said anything yesterday, was to back up HF in mislynching me today because he knew his partner was going to get lynched.

-marv has also probably been in thread, but hasn't posted anything worth reading.

I'm still pretty wary of oats, Apathy called him out for not posting and seemed pretty worried, that he wasn't talking.

And I think your the towniest out of all the three people, i like your questioning of people in your cell, on people in other cells.


Do you think Oats has not been in the thread, or do you feel that Oats has posted something worth reading?
If the second, what did Oats post that makes that point not apply to him?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
September 03 2014 22:42 GMT
#1739
On September 04 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
he posted that he was sheeping marv after he scum read him as if it was a useful comment, he's also been very sure of things like "NUUU it's a town tell" and "no bla bla is definitely mafia" while ignoring everyone else

i wouldn't honestly be surprised if wave was mafia with oats though


Where do you think see Oats as scumreading marv?
I felt like he was still seeing me as the mafia in the cell (but less suspicious than he had earlier maybe)
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 22:47 GMT
#1740
I honestly don't know what to think of oats, i've never read a game that he was mafia in, or played a game with him.

However marv's posting style seems to different to me from the last game that he played in.

As for Oats, i'm still a little unsure. he hasn't posted a whole lot of content,

and what little he has said in the earlier days was him pushing for lynches on people who turned out to be town later on. Look at BS vs BH, he also posted this

On August 29 2014 23:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 22:39 marvellosity wrote:
like if ninja or oats or whoever can give me a single reason why BH is town, I'm all ears.

He got unreasonably angry when he was up to lynch and looks to not give a shit whether he dies. Scum don't so that, they rationalise, they plead, bargain and all that jazz. Scum bh doesn't such so much Bh gives no shits about you when he is under pressure.
Note that this is different not giving a shit from bat. Bat is under no pressure, Bh is under lotta pressure.


The one game that i played with BH when he was cop, and i accidentally got him lynched , he seemed to care a lot when he was under pressure. Granted that it was PR BH vs Scum BH in oats post. But BH still seems like he cares.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
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