World Heavyweight Championship mafia III

On August 04 2014 15:06 Eden1892 wrote:

Some things never change.

On August 04 2014 15:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Attention *turned to him
I fucking hate doing this on ipad

On August 04 2014 09:04 WaveofShadow wrote:

LOL Artanis that made me laugh
HF do you actually think that there is a good reason for anyone to call me confirmed town right now? And whether or not the answer is yes, why would scum artanis bother with that? You're better than that, my dear. What are you fishing for?

On August 04 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I thought we established that I do but I don't know what I'm doing.

On August 04 2014 17:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I have nothing against agreeing with it.

My issue is that I really don't like Wave's pacing/terminology when it comes to his posts. I don't know, call it a gut read or whatever, but the last time I played with Wave he was supertown and he was so breezy and carefree and towny and junk. I don't see any of that here. Wave feels really calculated in his posts, almost like he cares way too much.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Looking at this paragraph after I've typed it out makes me think that I'm reaching conspiracy-theory levels of reading into things. I'll sleep on it, it's almost 5 AM anyway.

On August 04 2014 18:57 marvellosity wrote:
Poofter might be mafia according to my heuristic that I'm not telling any of you about right now.

I'd probably kill both Artanis and Poofter right now.

Wave hasn't showed me anything in particular that I want to lynch, other than what I mentioned. Most of the arguments levelled against him I've seen levelled against him on more than one occasion as town, they're just not very interesting to me yet. He's just null

##Vote: Artanis

gobbledy actually said the basic reason for Artanis to be mafia. Very low contributions so far despite posting some. I've not made proper reads yet and I've probably contributed more than he has. I also think given the preamble, Artanis would at least try to play a decent game as town. Let's see.

gobbledy actually said the basic reason for Artanis to be mafia

I've not made proper reads yet and I've probably contributed more than he has.

On August 04 2014 21:21 gobbledydook wrote:


went through haru's filter, not impressed.

First there's quite a lot of defending wave from meta-scumread, where his argument is very awkward. Then there's his weird scumread on hf/gk/eden, which I still don't think makes sense, why would you suggest they are acting pro-town therefore are scum? By his logic we should lynch all the most vocal towns first to catch the 'hidden mafia', oh wait, nope they were all town, mafia is laughing to the bank. So what he has said is awkward, misleading, and hasn't actually said much of note. He's on my scumreads right now, but behind Artanis.

On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.

I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co.

On August 04 2014 22:31 Holyflare wrote:
and who comments on game setup/mafia theory repeatedly with no other proper reads kush?

On August 04 2014 22:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Kush I don't understand, I've said that if marv allows me to get lynched he's scum because he knows how to read me and has enough thread pull to prevent such a thing. I agree with him that I haven't tried so I can't fault him for that. I don't understand your issue.

On August 04 2014 20:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Nah, I wondered out loud if I needed to try. I'm gonna go with socializing my way to a townread again.

On August 04 2014 22:46 marvellosity wrote:
in any game mafia want to look really townie. the point of the game is that it's hard and therefore they get caught.

Mafia don't set out to play like mafia, that would be pretty dumb.

On August 04 2014 22:55 marvellosity wrote:
that's stupid though.

any townie not playing as townie as possible in order to prevent themselves being a NK is both obnoxiously stupid and a complete asswipe.

On August 04 2014 23:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't like Obi. In Storm Mafia 2 he showed a lot of self-awareness, commented a lot about things outside of the game like which account he uses, mentioned he's blending, etc, whereas in Titanic and Noir he opened a lot more aggressively, not putting any attention towards himself, his mafia play, other accounts or anything like that. Straight to business, albeit in a joking fashion in a very different flavour than he's done this game.

On August 04 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Fuck I got town again.

On August 05 2014 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:

Because he scumread me for using meta without any reasoning and when I questioned him about it he just avoided me. Also it's kushs thing to do as mafia to make some half ass case on me day1. TL Noir is one example and I am pretty sure there was another game he did that.

On August 04 2014 21:09 justanothertownie wrote:

What are you used to see from me then? Meanwhile I will tell you what I am used to see from you when you are mafia: weak cases on me.
I don't think my meta usage is weak at all. Feel free to disagree but if you attack my reasoning you will have to explain whats wrong with it.

I agree.

On August 05 2014 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's a pretty bad list kush.

On August 05 2014 11:54 Holyflare wrote:
Fail association

On August 05 2014 13:49 gobbledydook wrote:


But no, seriously, your contribution level is still zero.

On August 05 2014 15:56 Eden1892 wrote:
i'm not even gonna try to parse ~~Reasons~~ i'll prolly just lynch you d3 or something if i still don't like it

but like... artanis isn't even trying

On August 05 2014 13:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Artanis finally showed up and did something useful. Poofter hasn't. All he really has done is scumread on the timing of marv's vote and then say he can't read him anyway. It's such a useless, trivial point that occupies lots of space.

##vote: tehpoofter

On August 05 2014 18:49 Holyflare wrote:
You make me happy in my special place for mentioning vivax because i wanted to but didn't want him to go full retard for me doing it

Here he's made some pretty bogus read on posts about haru +1-1 post that didn't exist

On August 05 2014 20:52 Eden1892 wrote:

why don't i read lorem ipsum
it's about as pertinent to the game and marginally more interesting

On August 05 2014 19:41 Holyflare wrote:





This part where he lies that me/gk excessively rode the post when i never even mentioned it as scummy once and only spent half a post talking about it

On August 04 2014 10:14 Vivax wrote:
Meeeeeh he might just be really suspicious about what haru wrote idk but the gut doesn't like it.

The loaded style: "Why are you not scumreading WoS" kinda gave me the feel of a scummy accusation, and that he entered the thread with a very dry "agree about WoS" too.

Then brushing off that he might have found Haru suspicious for that when I asked him. He just wanted to understand his point of view? HF on the other hand found it outright mafiaish, and I actually thought GK found Haru scummy too from the style of the questions but apparently he didn't really see something alignment indicative like HF did.

On August 05 2014 00:20 Vivax wrote:
@ JAT:

I would say that you should have by now realized that me "defending" Haru wasn't intended as defending Haru but simply saying that I didn't agree with the arguments HF was using, which was that huge focus on the -1 +1 part. I preferred to focus on Haru saying he was null on WoS, so maybe he didn't really think that math through properly but just wanted to express in a weird way he was null on WoS.

So far three interpretations of that post of mine have been posted: I shut down discussion, I defend, and I simply express my point of view.

What it ultimately means is up to the intention of the observer in my regards, does he only try to find a bad interpretation, or does he consider the post from both perspective?

On August 05 2014 21:55 Eden1892 wrote:

his reaction to getting "caught" (if that's how we're going to define this) is about as prideless as can be

On August 05 2014 21:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I'd like to think I'm just honest about how I play. This game I've played like shit. That doesn't mean I'm shit, that just means I'm having a terrible game.

On August 05 2014 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:

You remember Vivax doing shit but not me? Like what?

On August 05 2014 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
na, I'm bothering to play. That basically makes me confirmed town.

Suck my beautiful penis <3

On August 06 2014 01:24 marvellosity wrote:

Did gobble bus at all in that game you caught him in? I thought not.

i don't see why gobble would bus artanis basically out the gate, so i don't think your team of 3 makes any sense.

On August 06 2014 01:54 marvellosity wrote:

don't see the point in declaring it so confidently in the first place though. that doesn't make any sense.

On August 06 2014 02:32 Eden1892 wrote:
i feel like haru and artanis are both town somehow

god damn it

On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:
A case on HaruRH:

Near the beginning, I had HaruRH as scum because of his terrible logic about mafia acting more towny as usual. Then HF said that I shouldn't be so quick to scumread someone just because I disagree with them and I accepted it. The logic was terrible but it looked like he was trying to make a legit point at least.





Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.

A while later, he posts this gem.






Yep, not doing crap with reads, wishy washy and inconclusive, no promises given, throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation, not committing to any scumreads...guess who that is.

I know, it's the person flinging shit at seven people aka HaruRH.

On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts.

On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:
Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.

On August 06 2014 02:51 kushm4sta wrote:




Dunno, but that might be him being purposefully dense. I noticed in his last scumgame he likes to subtly misrepresent people to make them look scummy.
The misrepresentation is this:
Haru isn't calling both people scummy, he's calling artanis scummy for buddying someone who looks scummy.

On August 06 2014 03:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Again, I don't think he's mafia. It's a matter of bad townie vs mafia posting, and I simply don't see anything mafia-esque about this post.

Also, I don't know why you're talking about him subtly misrepresenting people, because the last scumgame he had that we were both in, he passionately went after Robik because of RNG. I don't really think that was necessarily "subtle" in any sense of the word.

On July 20 2014 16:46 gobbledydook wrote:
First I don't think snickers and damdred are both mafia and making a show out of it. If they were both mafia, they wouldn't attack each other and give town a chance to lynch them. So at most 1 of them can be mafia.


What damdred did:

he defends robik's rng lynch, gives some excuse for being inactive, then accuses snickers of being scummy because he doesn't respond directly to questions. Then he votes BH for not having any read other than rng. BH dies right before he could unvote, day 2 he hammers MM1, then day 3 is damdred twisting himself hard to apologize for lynching 2 towns.

Here's my take on what damdred's thinking:

damdred the scum wanted some town cred, so he makes the obvious defense of robik, forgoing the chance to hammer him day 1 as it would be very suspicious. Snicker attacks his lack of contribution, and damdred gives an excuse, anniversary with wife etc. We don't know if that was actually true, so let's assume it was the case and damdred was indeed busy. Then, feeling the need to 'contribute', he looks at the person who last attacked him, looks through his filter, and picks holes in it. Unfortunately the snickers bandwagon doesn't work and seeing a promising BH bandwagon hops on it with little explanation. He puts unvote after the hammer has hit to earn towncred for attempting to thwart the mislynch.
Day 2 he hammers MM1 because it's a mislynch for the taking.
Day 3, snickers presses him on the BH vote and MM1 vote. Now feeling that snickers is on to something, he tries to defend himself and apologise and bend over himself, but snickers smells scum and he panics.

The impression is that he's only writing when being pressured, and otherwise trying to lay low.

I'm not going to vote yet, I want to hear more from everyone first.

On August 05 2014 22:40 gobbledydook wrote:
To those who are saying im suspicious:

Every game I have played so far I was mafia.

Guess how much I know about playing town. I'm trying, but just that I'm not up to your standards doesn't mean I'm scum. You can also compare this game to my 2 scumgames to see the difference.

On August 06 2014 03:49 Eden1892 wrote:

oh wow lol

no he's played town before on webdip i subbed into a game where he was town and got n1'd

to be fair he prolly means "every game on tl" but at the same time he's not new to being town...

On August 06 2014 03:52 kushm4sta wrote:


everyone see this shit???
LAL it up
##unvote
##vote Gobbledy

On August 06 2014 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
Oh right that's fine then but he still only sticks around to defend then leaves every time

On August 06 2014 04:54 goodkarma wrote:


Give us gamelink, or it didn't happen.

On August 06 2014 04:58 Eden1892 wrote:
webdip is a Diplomacy website
in March I introduced forum mafia
this is the game I cited: http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1129589#1129589

however I don't believe gobble is lying. contextually I think he meant that he had never played as town on tl mafia

On August 05 2014 22:40 gobbledydook wrote:
To those who are saying im suspicious:

Every game I have played so far I was mafia.

Guess how much I know about playing town. I'm trying, but just that I'm not up to your standards doesn't mean I'm scum. You can also compare this game to my 2 scumgames to see the difference.

On August 06 2014 05:26 Vivax wrote:


Btw Kush I feel like you're the strongest active town player on TL at the moment, except for some minor bloopers I can't speak of you can really see stuff I'm unaware of. RESPECT.

On August 06 2014 00:51 HaruRH wrote:
I admit that I dont want to be mislynched today, but I have posted pretty badly and have misunderstood some posts. Hopefully this 2nd mislynch (order was my first and was soul crushing) would serve as a reminder in future games why haru shouldn't post reads d1. Too late for any regret, I am already at l1 and would probably be mislynched in my sleep. As a note, please never force me to make reads d1. I am literally incapable of doing so. Goodnight all.

On August 06 2014 05:46 justanothertownie wrote:

Are you kidding? He wasn't bullshitting when he called gobble scum for having the same reads he had?

On August 06 2014 05:57 marvellosity wrote:
here's where i am. i don't feel very confident in a gobbledy lynch. maybe i'm just wrong and bad, but i don't really wanna vote for him.

maybe vivax is dickish enough to be town?

haru... i dno. i don't care that he talks about "methods", it's just like - he sarcastically listed off names he expected gobbledy to vote for who were all in his scumville. It doesn't make sense to me. Even with his explanations.

if I have some players in scumville, i don't go "well ha, i expect my mafiaread to vote for all my mafia suspects! lol!" like what?

On August 06 2014 06:01 marvellosity wrote:

like do you go

"yeah, obi is scum. he's like totally going to vote for artanis, gobbledy, and hf. he's totally going to vote in my scumlist so he's totes scum"

how does a townie think that?

On August 06 2014 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Can I call you bad for this after the game even though I've played bad too?

On August 06 2014 06:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I'm glad you agree you're reading me incorrectly.

On August 06 2014 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
Really vivax is looking a lot like the vivax from when i smurfed and he was defending someone that others thought was scummy. He really didn't comment on haru at all and still attacks haru's aggressors instead. He is also stuck in his time warp of lies making reads on things THAT DON'T EXIST

On August 06 2014 06:23 Holyflare wrote:


Do you disagree or are you just going to continue with the same mafia list you've pretty much had all game?

On August 06 2014 06:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

This.

• Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
  
• List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
  
• Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
  
• In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)

On August 06 2014 07:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Are you finally townreading me Marv?

Yep, not doing crap with reads, wishy washy and inconclusive, no promises given, throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation, not committing to any scumreads...guess who that is.

I know, it's the person flinging shit at seven people aka HaruRH.

On August 06 2014 07:34 Holyflare wrote:
That quote entirely applies to haru though why is it "generalised bs"?

On August 06 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
So what stops it being a towny who thinks all those things? Why is it only scummy to think someone being anti town is mafia?

On August 05 2014 22:40 gobbledydook wrote:
To those who are saying im suspicious:

Every game I have played so far I was mafia.

Guess how much I know about playing town. I'm trying, but just that I'm not up to your standards doesn't mean I'm scum. You can also compare this game to my 2 scumgames to see the difference.

On August 06 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
So yeh i saw the gobbledy ninja vote on vivax after deadline so he's around and should probably explain himself

Also the obi hesitancy was really fucking strange

On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:

I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't.

On August 06 2014 23:44 marvellosity wrote:

you're scumreading someone for being in a different timezone? for realsies?

On August 06 2014 23:44 Eden1892 wrote:
not at all a too scummy to be scum argument... he was around for the last few minutes at EOD even though he had a valid excuse not to be which indicates a desire to be present at EOD which is townie

why wouldn't scum want a no-lynch? they would love to reduce the # of mislynches they need to force by 1 without giving us a flip

and who cares if Vivax hard scumread him? that doesn't mean anything for his alignment since that wasn't the reason he voted Vivax off

WHY SLYGUY270 IS MAFIA

Let's look at what he has said.

The first thing he does, is vote Damian without providing any reason whatsoever. He then disappears for a few hours. He gets caught out and tries to explain that by saying that he didn't like instant first posts because they seem mafia to him. Which isn't really a reason, he hasn't justified why the posting time indicates anything about alignment. He dismisses Socrates's question about his behaviour by saying he can't convince him anyway. Then he jumps on WardenDresden's ridiculous troll post about players starting with the letter G to be mafia, without any reason either.

He is appearing to contribute, without actually contributing anything. So I ask slyguy270:

1) Gtlblx has been active in driving discussion in the game. What do you find about his posts that you do not like about him, such that you are voting for him? No a 1 sentence response like 'his name defense is bad' won't cut it.

2) What are your other town and scum reads right now? Provide detailed explanations.

Until you satisfy me with your answers,

##Vote: Slyguy270.

WHY WARDENDRESDEN IS ALSO MAFIA

Looking back over WardenDresden's posts.

His first post:

He jumps on slyguy's damian bandwagon without offering any new substance. His statements about damian being a mod and posting first frankly are not logical. They in no way predict his alignment yet Warden brushes aside the obvious logical holes and continues to lynch damian.

He then has a bit where 'I think we can learn a lot about playstyles from last game, but once again, it does little to justify any suspicions, but it can help exonerate players whose styles have been confirmed as innocent.'.

That is just saying nothing. He's just saying, we should look at the last game, but it doesn't matter anyway, but it might help slightly somewhere, which obviously is not saying anything at all.

His second post:

He now admits that his mod lynch idea won't gain any traction (obviously, since it doesn't make sense) and then makes a bogus argument about thinning out players with the same starting letter 'to reduce confusion'. I thought we are certainly capable of telling players apart so that shouldn't even be an argument. So basically, his second post is also completely useless.

His third post:

He attempts to justify his illogical lynch reasons above as trying to create discussion. There are better ways to promote discussion than making bad posts. What he was doing is make posts that seem like he's saying something but he isn't.

Then he says he agrees with our suspicions of slyguy, but then rather than voting slyguy, votes for *me* instead for being 'too self-important'. That's the worst argument I have ever seen from him, and it suggests that he is just trying to save slyguy by trying to divert attention.


Therefore,

##Vote: WardenDresden

His posts are devoid of substance, he is trying to look like he is agreeing with other people without following up on it, and he's trying to lynch people making actual contributions.

Slyguy is probably also mafia, but right now Warden is the worst of the bunch.

On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:


Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.

On August 07 2014 00:30 Onegu wrote:
I will say someone has my gut going off as scum that I normally have correctly read in the past. You know who you are.

On August 07 2014 00:34 Eden1892 wrote:

maybe you could not snip pertinent parts of his post when you try to interpret it...

right before that he points out that Haru was sheeping:

gobble is assessing the only reason Haru gave, which Haru did in fact give - that Arty felt scummy for buddying someone suspicious. this isn't a misinterpretation at all

On August 07 2014 00:54 Eden1892 wrote:

that strikes me as a really meaningless distinction. can you explain for me why that's a meaningful enough distinction not only to warrant calling the missing of that distinction a misinterpretation, but a willful one?

On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts.

If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.

On August 07 2014 01:10 Eden1892 wrote:

ok, i see how that's a misinterpretation, but i don't see how it's "a major misrepresentation, one that i doubt town would ever make."

think about it, you just had to explain to me how it's a misinterpretation. meaning that i, too, interpreted it the same way gobble did. am i scum?

On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts.

On July 17 2014 09:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Best mafia play is for Holyflare, i don't enev know/care about what game.
truth.

On August 07 2014 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
You would think that if i called someone 100% scum I'd be pushing for them to be lynched or something! Oh wait no i didn't because he started posting in a towny way and i unvoted. You know because he got pressured and made some sense

he started posting in a towny way and i unvoted

On August 06 2014 05:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Because I'm lazy and this game is comprised of a bunch of tryhards who want a belt.

On August 07 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, that's cool. But what is towny about it? Can't he feel lazy as scum?

On August 07 2014 05:57 justanothertownie wrote:

Ah, ok. I think scum could very well have the same mindset but you are maybe correct if you say that they probably wouldn't admit it.

On August 07 2014 06:02 Holyflare wrote:


No because onegu is saying it's scummy and i decided to pull off my read on poofter becaude TO ME he didn't look scummy yet 2 other people started scum reading him after i unvoted. So much logic for me to do, he didn't even look that towny and he'd be the easiest mislynch in the world to push and instead of the lurkers and poofters and artanis' i went for vivax instead??? You seriously saying that? Why is the easier explanation not that i saw vivax lying 100% and then instead of him discussing or acknowledging THE LEADING LYNCH WAGON he decided to ignore every single thing i said and then started calling ppl bad and asking to be lynched and his only content at deadling was that wos wasn't around when wos already saod why. He was scummy as fuck to me and i pushed for his lynch.

You've tunneled me all game and instead of listening to things i say you say it's a bus instead and we should listen to you because you so good. News flash you're scum reading me and I'm town. Shape up.

On August 07 2014 06:31 Holyflare wrote:


He kept pushing his read about me continually pushing haru on the +1-1 post and used it to call haru town and when i called him out on it he fully ignored me and continued doing it. You can ctrl +f my filter to find out I NEVER DID ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL EVER. I quizzed haru on it in a 1 line post and it was a meh post and i left it alone.

On August 07 2014 06:35 kushm4sta wrote:


So what exactly what vivax's lie? That you were continually pushing haru on +1-1 when in actuality you only mentioned it once?
I remember vivax saying "starting with the +1-1..." something like that.

On August 07 2014 06:52 Holyflare wrote:
Read vivax filter all he does when he mentions me is mention the - 1+1 thing. He had 2 pages of filter and was afk for ages, he came back and his only read was still that i pushed this +1 post excessively (i said iy was a time warp) he never fucking says a word and doesn't explain it and then when i push ot later he comes up with some new shitty policy excuse to say he's not acknowledging any words i type? Like wtf bull shit is that.

On August 07 2014 06:56 Holyflare wrote:
So yes 1 post of 3 lines is excessive kush is that what you're saying?

On August 04 2014 09:46 Holyflare wrote:


This post does not make any sense whatsoever? If the meta read can be thrown away then it doesn't count at all. Then you agree about him being stiff but end up at null?

If he hasn't played for 3 months why is he disappointed about rolling town then? Should be a good thing after a break.

On August 04 2014 09:51 Holyflare wrote:
I can't get over how weird that haru post is actually. It's very mafiaish. The first sentence



Is very generalised and doesn't address any of the point that i made at all. Wave HASN'T done it ever, it's not like it's a way to play mafia he's changed up it's a specific thing he hasn't done as town in the past like 10 games and he has done it as scum. How does 3 months = big change effect anything to do with anything? If wave hasn't played for 3 months what changes that this meta read would be affected by? Why would he suddenly be sad to roll town after 3 months and i just understand how this specific thing could even change.

On August 07 2014 07:27 Eden1892 wrote:

uh.

wtf lol

preeeetty sure i've been trying to rally around killing holyflare instead of you

On August 05 2014 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It's clear what my position is; Vivax, Poof, and Haru are all legitimate lynches for me. Anyone who doesn't know that isn't reading the thread. Why are you focussing on this unimportant issue rather than the actual reads?

1. Because it was phrased in a completely awkward way. It was basically dragged along, and then it turned out he hadn't even read it properly. Why would you bring up something that isn't even related when you haven't even read the context?

On August 05 2014 21:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That would require my brain to work, which at the moment seems to not be the case.

On August 05 2014 07:48 HaruRH wrote:


Ill do it for you

Goodkarma: came out early with tons of aggression, never relented and disappeared conveniently.

Wos: bad start with stiff post, continued posting awkwardly that seemed rehearsed.

Artanis: using meta reads as a basis of his reads (I really dont agree with doing this).

Justanothertownie: I don't really feel much from him except that I don't agree with his scumreads at all.

Obiwan: being useless In this game much? I don't see him voting anything meaningful, or doing any moves that included thinking.

Overall, obi> wos> gk> artanis> jat in terms of who to lynch.