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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 12:21 GMT
#37
On August 01 2014 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'll give it a shot.
First game back for a few months means I'ma be rusty and also my activity level from here on is likely not going to be anywhere near what it used to be.

/in

I see how it is.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 15:02 GMT
#39
On August 02 2014 00:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Artaaaaanis
I love you but cell is so stressful
Play a game with me instead

FINE
/in
I'm just going to pretend you're confirmed town to me all game long. I'm counting on you to do the same.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 15:11 GMT
#41
On August 02 2014 00:10 IAmRobik wrote:
And that is how town loses boys and girls

Confirmed mafia already.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 15:36 GMT
#46
On August 02 2014 00:33 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause it's a heavyweight champion game and rayn is neither

[image loading]
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 15:43 GMT
#49
On August 02 2014 00:40 iamperfection wrote:
im sure you all read the op

[image loading]
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 15:49 GMT
#51
On August 02 2014 00:47 marvellosity wrote:
Good stuff. I'm at Pride all weekend so starting now would've been hopeless.

I'm proud of you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 15:58 GMT
#54
That's fine, I'm confirmed town anyway
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 15:58 GMT
#55
Then again I guess it's important to find all my incredibly valuable posts so I understand.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 16:16 GMT
#58
Just sheep me and everything will be fine.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 16:26 GMT
#62
On August 02 2014 01:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Just sheep me and everything will be fine.


I'm holding you to this.

Will you sheep me onto yourself if you're mafia?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 16:36 GMT
#64
On August 02 2014 01:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ofc.

I lay down my life for this town. All hail Artanis.

I'm holding you to this too.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 16:46 GMT
#66
On August 02 2014 01:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yay Artanis!!
I won't vote for you cuz I luyu

The key thing to remember is always lynch holyflare.
AMIRITE

lynching hf is never a bad idea.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 17:50 GMT
#68
Blame R1CH instead.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 19:52 GMT
#75
On August 02 2014 04:45 Eden1892 wrote:
/towncircle

Edited post, pls modkill.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 20:01 GMT
#77
On August 02 2014 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 04:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 02 2014 04:45 Eden1892 wrote:
/towncircle

Edited post, pls modkill.


No more tears, only worms now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 20:13 GMT
#79
Why aren't you on irc robik?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 20:38 GMT
#81
Naughty, naughty.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 21:50 GMT
#85
On August 02 2014 06:09 goodkarma wrote:
This game's going to be amazing.

I reserve the right to post how I want when I want meta be damned.

I'm counting on you playing at least as well as the last game I played with you. If you don't, you're gonna get policy'd.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 22:07 GMT
#87
On August 02 2014 06:51 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 06:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 02 2014 06:09 goodkarma wrote:
This game's going to be amazing.

I reserve the right to post how I want when I want meta be damned.

I'm counting on you playing at least as well as the last game I played with you. If you don't, you're gonna get policy'd.

last game y'all played together i'm 90% sure he didn't post at all from the moment you subbed in to the end :o

he was still hella good in mason chat tho

I meant the game where he got shot N1 and I got shot N2 and N3.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 22:29 GMT
#89
On August 02 2014 07:22 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 07:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 02 2014 06:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 02 2014 06:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 02 2014 06:09 goodkarma wrote:
This game's going to be amazing.

I reserve the right to post how I want when I want meta be damned.

I'm counting on you playing at least as well as the last game I played with you. If you don't, you're gonna get policy'd.

last game y'all played together i'm 90% sure he didn't post at all from the moment you subbed in to the end :o

he was still hella good in mason chat tho

I meant the game where he got shot N1 and I got shot N2 and N3.

Show nested quote +
he got shot N1 and I got shot N2 and N3

Show nested quote +
I got shot N2 and N3

[image loading]

I was a nerfed doc that could heal himself.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 02 2014 01:10 GMT
#94
On August 02 2014 10:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Not really stacked all that much. I could easily replace like 3 players

Starting with this awful IAmRobik guy.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 02 2014 16:04 GMT
#101
On August 03 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
/out

[image loading]
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 13:56 GMT
#120
On August 03 2014 22:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lulz just realized dat 7 pm deadline time.
Won't be around for most of those, ladies.

The excuses are here already!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 18:37 GMT
#126
On August 04 2014 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not going to be around for deadlines either.

Lol I am so getting lynched this game.

Policy cava is not allowed to live past D1 lynch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 20:20 GMT
#130
On August 04 2014 05:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 03:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not going to be around for deadlines either.

Lol I am so getting lynched this game.

Policy cava is not allowed to live past D1 lynch.


That's not funny. Don't even joke.

Who says I'm joking?
+ Show Spoiler +
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#137
On August 04 2014 06:10 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 04 2014 05:28 Vivax wrote:
Artanis isn't even in this game -.-


He's in slot 11...


That's Artanis, not Artanis[XP]

I win.

Who's Artanis[XP]?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:03 GMT
#147
Okay guys, here's what we're going to do. Given the massive success of policy lynches, I'm declaring Day 1 Policy Lynch day. I'd like to know who agrees with my infullible logic.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:08 GMT
#151
On August 04 2014 08:08 Vivax wrote:
We policy lynching the belt winner?

I think policy lynching marv is a very good idea. Either we get scum or we worsen his not lynched as town%. Win/win really.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:11 GMT
#154
Well hey, I'm town too. That seems like a good idea.
/towncircle
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:13 GMT
#156
You still have to prove your allegiance by voting marv, Vivax.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:13 GMT
#158
I've got a lot of faith in this towncircle already.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:17 GMT
#161
I like that plan Eden, though I think each member should be given one veto each. I'm sure we trust each other to be careful with them and only use them when we're sure it's a bad idea.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:20 GMT
#164
On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target.

/agree
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:32 GMT
#175
HaruRH took Robik's rightful spot, and that saddens me. I will not vote on this, but not use a veto either so it's up to Vivax.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:34 GMT
#181
On August 04 2014 08:32 Eden1892 wrote:
Proposition: All prospective members of the /towncircle must change their vote to the policy lynch target of the /towncircle before being admitted to the /towncircle

/Agreed
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:39 GMT
#189
On August 04 2014 08:36 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HaruRH took Robik's rightful spot, and that saddens me. I will not vote on this, but not use a veto either so it's up to Vivax.


Pretty sure I didn't take up robik's spot at all

If you hadn't /in'd robik might've still been in this game as there'd be one slot short so iamp might have refused to sub him out.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:43 GMT
#195
I'm feeling oppressed.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:51 GMT
#212
On August 04 2014 08:46 Eden1892 wrote:
wait artanis you did?
why are you feeling oppressed, we at /towncircle, Inc. believe in equality and have a very inclusive policy, i would like to help you with your oppressed feelings

I feel oppressed over my opinions regarding Haru replacing Robik. They're not being respected.
Also, I'm voting /agree on WoS joining. He's confirmed town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 03 2014 23:59 GMT
#221
On August 04 2014 08:54 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 08:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:46 Eden1892 wrote:
wait artanis you did?
why are you feeling oppressed, we at /towncircle, Inc. believe in equality and have a very inclusive policy, i would like to help you with your oppressed feelings

I feel oppressed over my opinions regarding Haru replacing Robik. They're not being respected.
Also, I'm voting /agree on WoS joining. He's confirmed town.

oh, u r rite, i am sorry i shouldnt have used dismissiv language. ur opinion is valuable 2 me

but now we have an important point of discussion because how is WoS confirmed town?

It's in my filter.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 00:00 GMT
#227
On August 04 2014 08:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 08:57 Holyflare wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:49 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Surprise surprise. I don't even think I need role PMs anymore at this point, I can just assume.

I'd like to make it known ahead of time (to those of you who weren't on voice last night) I'm not even going to attempt to read Slam. You guys can do it, and I'll sheep along.

Now, time to gather some feels.



this is eerily similar opening to your mafia game though

What's similar about it?


the fact you feel disheartened/seemingly disappointed about getting a 'town' pm which is exactly what you did in your game as mafia and you haven't done it in your town games that i checked just now in your profile (newest town ones)


you rolled mafia didn't you ?


actual scum hunting here, incredibly suspicious of artanis now that he called wave confirmed town

HF confirmed for not reading my filter.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 00:02 GMT
#232
On August 04 2014 09:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 09:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:57 Holyflare wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:49 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Surprise surprise. I don't even think I need role PMs anymore at this point, I can just assume.

I'd like to make it known ahead of time (to those of you who weren't on voice last night) I'm not even going to attempt to read Slam. You guys can do it, and I'll sheep along.

Now, time to gather some feels.



this is eerily similar opening to your mafia game though

What's similar about it?


the fact you feel disheartened/seemingly disappointed about getting a 'town' pm which is exactly what you did in your game as mafia and you haven't done it in your town games that i checked just now in your profile (newest town ones)


you rolled mafia didn't you ?


actual scum hunting here, incredibly suspicious of artanis now that he called wave confirmed town

HF confirmed for not reading my filter.


Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 08:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:46 Eden1892 wrote:
wait artanis you did?
why are you feeling oppressed, we at /towncircle, Inc. believe in equality and have a very inclusive policy, i would like to help you with your oppressed feelings

I feel oppressed over my opinions regarding Haru replacing Robik. They're not being respected.
Also, I'm voting /agree on WoS joining. He's confirmed town.



confirmed reading filter

On August 02 2014 00:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 00:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Artaaaaanis
I love you but cell is so stressful
Play a game with me instead

FINE
/in
I'm just going to pretend you're confirmed town to me all game long. I'm counting on you to do the same.

confirmed not reading filter
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 00:04 GMT
#237
On August 04 2014 09:04 Eden1892 wrote:
artanis have you ever danced with wave

is (s)he a stiff dancer

because (s)he/xim/xir/xe seems stiff right now

I have answered exactly what I think regarding wave's alignment. He's a magnificent dancer, too.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 00:05 GMT
#240
On August 04 2014 09:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
K guardians of the galaxy time
Bbl babes

Aww can I come along?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 00:07 GMT
#244
On August 04 2014 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 09:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 09:04 Eden1892 wrote:
artanis have you ever danced with wave

is (s)he a stiff dancer

because (s)he/xim/xir/xe seems stiff right now

I have answered exactly what I think regarding wave's alignment. He's a magnificent dancer, too.

that turned down my request to dance

you don't see what i'm seeing here? too... formal, everyone else be kiddin around or using one-liners and this dude be writin paragraphs an shit

He is confirmed town to me. I'm not sure I can help you further than that.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 00:34 GMT
#265
On August 04 2014 09:33 goodkarma wrote:
lol towncircles this early are pointless

It is never pointless to showcase your towniness.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 00:46 GMT
#272
On August 04 2014 09:44 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 09:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 09:33 goodkarma wrote:
lol towncircles this early are pointless

It is never pointless to showcase your towniness.


In what way does joining a haphazardly formed circle made minutes into the game show towniness?

You join a green circle with the name towncircle in it. Surely this is obvious.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:24 GMT
#428
Gawd am I actually going to have to put in effort? You guys are so boring.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:28 GMT
#431
I'm actually liking Kush this game.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:29 GMT
#434
Same thought, confirmed town, move vote pls.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:32 GMT
#435
I also want to call marv townish because he knows he can't get me mislynched as town, but it's a preliminary vote that can always move so I'm hesitant.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:34 GMT
#439
On August 04 2014 20:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I also want to call marv townish because he knows he can't get me mislynched as town, but it's a preliminary vote that can always move so I'm hesitant.

I so could.

You'd have to try really hard and you'd end up getting lynched yourself after unless town is dumb and doesn't realize how accurately you generally read me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:36 GMT
#441
On August 04 2014 20:35 Eden1892 wrote:
This game kinna hard without the former king of soul reads in it

But Wave is playing! And he feel read me town. Wave's feels are never wrong.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:38 GMT
#444
On August 04 2014 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
Wave's feels are always wrong. Or he's mafia.

If nothing by chance he's likely to be right sometimes.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:40 GMT
#445
Marv what do you think is the difference between town and scum hf?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:44 GMT
#449
On August 04 2014 20:41 marvellosity wrote:
not really sure. i think he jokes around more at the start as mafia usually, or waits a bit longer to get involved. maybe he listens less as well

You said hf looks town though, what made you say that?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:46 GMT
#451
On August 04 2014 20:44 Holyflare wrote:
rather than segue onto what makes me mafia (nobody apparently knows) how about commenting on current things artanis

Fuck you bish I do what I want.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:48 GMT
#453
On August 04 2014 20:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:41 marvellosity wrote:
not really sure. i think he jokes around more at the start as mafia usually, or waits a bit longer to get involved. maybe he listens less as well

You said hf looks town though, what made you say that?

? i've already talked as much as i want to about hf in my filter, which isn't very long.

Oh right, I should probably read your entire filter when I ask a question. That makes sense.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:48 GMT
#454
On August 04 2014 20:47 Holyflare wrote:
well what you want isn't doing it for me, you acknowledged that you'd have to actually try in order to not get lynched but then all you've done is post one liners about someone being town etc

Nah, I wondered out loud if I needed to try. I'm gonna go with socializing my way to a townread again.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:50 GMT
#456
On August 04 2014 20:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:46 marvellosity wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:41 marvellosity wrote:
not really sure. i think he jokes around more at the start as mafia usually, or waits a bit longer to get involved. maybe he listens less as well

You said hf looks town though, what made you say that?

? i've already talked as much as i want to about hf in my filter, which isn't very long.

Oh right, I should probably read your entire filter when I ask a question. That makes sense.

less jokey-useless-y, more artanis-gonna-solve-the-game-and-get-sheeped from pregame

thank you in advance for your cooperation

But I'm really not in the mood for trying
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:51 GMT
#458
On August 04 2014 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
then be prepared to die.

I won't though, unless it's a policy lynch. Then I'm ok with it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:52 GMT
#460
On August 04 2014 20:51 marvellosity wrote:
it's an "artanis can't be bothered to play which makes it quite a bit likelier he's mafia" lynch

Then you're worse at reading me than I thought. When did number of pages stop being an indicator for me?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2014 11:53 GMT
#463
On August 04 2014 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:51 marvellosity wrote:
it's an "artanis can't be bothered to play which makes it quite a bit likelier he's mafia" lynch

Then you're worse at reading me than I thought. When did number of pages stop being an indicator for me?

how is that question relevant?

Because I can't be mafia due to activity, duh.
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#465
On August 04 2014 20:54 marvellosity wrote:
didn't say it was due to activity. if you have no desire to solve the game then you are probably mafia.

there's little point in arguing about this, you can either play some and see how it goes, or get lynched arguing with me about the exact semantics of effort and activity.

i don't really care that much.

Oh I won't get lynched unless people decide to play against their wincon by deadline. I'm just annoyed that there's votes on me atm, but not enough to do something about it that requires effort.
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August 04 2014 13:35 GMT
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Kush I don't understand, I've said that if marv allows me to get lynched he's scum because he knows how to read me and has enough thread pull to prevent such a thing. I agree with him that I haven't tried so I can't fault him for that. I don't understand your issue.
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#482
On August 04 2014 22:38 kushm4sta wrote:
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On August 04 2014 22:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Kush I don't understand, I've said that if marv allows me to get lynched he's scum because he knows how to read me and has enough thread pull to prevent such a thing. I agree with him that I haven't tried so I can't fault him for that. I don't understand your issue.


Why are you making this circular argument about marv's ability to read you? Do something that looks townie and I will townread you. Right now it looks like you are trying to opt out of that, so I'm scumreading you.
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On August 04 2014 20:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:47 Holyflare wrote:
well what you want isn't doing it for me, you acknowledged that you'd have to actually try in order to not get lynched but then all you've done is post one liners about someone being town etc

Nah, I wondered out loud if I needed to try. I'm gonna go with socializing my way to a townread again.

plus other shit

Your post implied that you scumread me because I "rolled over" to marv. I've said that Marv should be able to read me by the end of the day.
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August 04 2014 13:57 GMT
#490
Preliminary townread on GK. When he was scum in Showdown he made it very clear that he doesn't joke and didn't like to joke, yet he replied to one of my jokes in the start of the game. I don't think he'd change that if he were scum as he seems to be uncomfortable with the role.
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August 04 2014 14:03 GMT
#492
I don't like Obi. In Storm Mafia 2 he showed a lot of self-awareness, commented a lot about things outside of the game like which account he uses, mentioned he's blending, etc, whereas in Titanic and Noir he opened a lot more aggressively, not putting any attention towards himself, his mafia play, other accounts or anything like that. Straight to business, albeit in a joking fashion in a very different flavour than he's done this game.
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August 04 2014 14:06 GMT
#494
Do you have anything better to go of 15 hours into the game? I'm taking things I find potentially scummy and investigating if they've done it as town/scum.
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August 04 2014 14:14 GMT
#496
On August 04 2014 23:10 kushm4sta wrote:
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On August 04 2014 23:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't like Obi. In Storm Mafia 2 he showed a lot of self-awareness, commented a lot about things outside of the game like which account he uses, mentioned he's blending, etc, whereas in Titanic and Noir he opened a lot more aggressively, not putting any attention towards himself, his mafia play, other accounts or anything like that. Straight to business, albeit in a joking fashion in a very different flavour than he's done this game.


So if i understand you right,
mafia=self awareness, talking about stuff outside the game
town=aggressive, straight to business.

So why don't you like him this game?? That's the part that didn't connect t ome.
What about his "favour" points scummy?

Meta counterpoint: if you look at Titanic (I think) he had a very low energy early game similar to this one.

ok im talking too much i will talk less

His 6 first posts are all related to talking about himself or things related to himself outside of the game, things I didn't find him doing in his last two towngames, but sound similar to the scumgame I mentioned, leading me to believe it's a scum trait. It wasn't like that in Titanic.
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August 04 2014 14:25 GMT
#500
On August 04 2014 23:20 kushm4sta wrote:
He made the one post:
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On August 04 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Fuck I got town again.

and the 5 next posts are him responding to people talking to him about that post. All those posts were in quick succession. He went afk and when he got back his posts were straight to business.

Fair point. It still gives me scummy vibes though in that he started about it to begin with, and had no problem keeping the discussion focused on himself.
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#503
On August 04 2014 23:36 HaruRH wrote:
Also, what is really townie looking? To artanis, wos is his really townie guy despite many objections and scumreads on wos.

Someone is not reading the thread.
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August 04 2014 14:39 GMT
#505
I actually kinda want to lynch Haru for that. If he really was scumhunting he'd have paid more attention and would've seen why I "super townread" WoS, but in the post he just made it's used more as a deflection. Coupled with how his reasoning has been very shallow, as hf mentioned it seems like he's not really interested in finding scum.
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August 04 2014 14:47 GMT
#508
On August 04 2014 23:44 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 04 2014 23:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I actually kinda want to lynch Haru for that. If he really was scumhunting he'd have paid more attention and would've seen why I "super townread" WoS, but in the post he just made it's used more as a deflection. Coupled with how his reasoning has been very shallow, as hf mentioned it seems like he's not really interested in finding scum.


I just want to ask marv what he is townreading people off. That's all.

For scumhunting, wait for more posts from lurkers. This is how I roll.

Have you found out what you've missed in my filter yet?
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August 04 2014 14:52 GMT
#513
On August 02 2014 00:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On August 02 2014 00:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Artaaaaanis
I love you but cell is so stressful
Play a game with me instead

FINE
/in
I'm just going to pretend you're confirmed town to me all game long. I'm counting on you to do the same.

I've quoted it once before already.
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August 04 2014 15:09 GMT
#520
I also think he's town. He's actually playing the game instead of trolling and trying to understand and be understood.
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August 04 2014 15:14 GMT
#526
Oh fuck off Marv, I've tried more than you have by now.
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August 04 2014 15:17 GMT
#529
I gave my own reasoning for townreading GK unrelated to what was already posted, I'm still scumreading Obi and I've given reasoning for scumreading Haru. I've also done a bunch of meta research.

And you're like 20 percent town. At best.
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August 04 2014 15:18 GMT
#533
You have a title to defend. Of course you're not just going to back down even if you rolled scum.
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August 04 2014 15:20 GMT
#536
I think Marv is still buttmad that he's getting policy'd.
This means the policy must continue.
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August 04 2014 15:21 GMT
#541
On August 05 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
you're leading the votes sweetie

That's okay dear, once Eden gets back I'm sure that'll change. Not everyone is blinded by rage like yourself.
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#546
That's a pretty bad list kush.
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August 04 2014 15:28 GMT
#549
Vivax, don't you think part of the reason HF attacked strongly was to get the game started by getting a reaction though? It was mostly joking around until that point.
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#552
On August 05 2014 00:33 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 05 2014 00:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I gave my own reasoning for townreading GK unrelated to what was already posted, I'm still scumreading Obi and I've given reasoning for scumreading Haru. I've also done a bunch of meta research.

And you're like 20 percent town. At best.


your reason was the exact reason that I already gave by the way

That's impossible as he just brought it up. He deflected marv's post by mentioning something about me super townreading wave for no good reason when if he had been paying attention he would've noticed that I mentioned townreading Wave from the get go. I even quoted it again when someone else asked it to me before. Bringing up this example felt awkward to begin with given his post so it makes no sense for him to do so unless he's trying to deflect.
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August 04 2014 15:51 GMT
#557
Vivax, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds to me like you're making an unflipped association between GK and WoS which seems to be the foundation to your case.
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#584
On August 05 2014 02:02 Eden1892 wrote:
hey i just woke up and was catching up from my last post on p23, but around halfway thru p28, i said "nah fuck it"

who we killin? it's wave right? i might just move my vote there but first i have to do something

##UNVOTE: Artanis[Xp]
##VOTE: ObiWanShinobi


scummiest scum that ever scummed get d1'd again sucker

My hero <3
And nah, we're still policy lynching marv.
/towncircle
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August 04 2014 17:32 GMT
#594
We shouldn't lynch WoS, he's confirmed town. I thought I was clear on this.
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#598
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#744
On August 05 2014 03:32 kushm4sta wrote:
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On August 05 2014 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's a pretty bad list kush.


how do you know

I'm on it for one, and I have minor townreads on the other two.

Haru, you've mentioned you favour Obi the most for a lynch today. Why have you not been pushing him or trying to interact with him? He's here and he's your biggest scumread yet you're not doing anything.

On August 05 2014 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:
poofter town lean for posting relaxed and carefree like a townie
minor town lean tho he needs to actually do something or else he'll be on the radar by day's end

gobble i'd have to go look up specifics to give a coherent explanation but i remember his posts having a lot of clarity of direction to them. he seemed like he was playing open and like he wasn't holding anything back. just looks townie to me

I don't think that's a good tell for poof. I've seen him post in cell as scum and he was very carefree there too. I'm not sure what really sets him out as mafia.
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August 04 2014 23:53 GMT
#745
On August 05 2014 08:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 05 2014 08:15 HaruRH wrote:
On August 05 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
Someone read this.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HaruRH

Save me from the tunnel plz because in the town games that I've read from haru when he scum hunts it includes quotes and posts and reasons and questions and he tries to find things, all I've seen from him now is generic lists and surface reading all over again and he just echos a lot of things already said


Dude wtf you're still twisting my words

I already said posting with quotes is paramount to suicide on mobile.

Also, I did not spend 25 minutes finding those stuff. I spent less than 3, but the effort of trying to copy and paste the quote using mobile is like trying to swallow a sword

Continue riding in the haru tunnel. Many had done so and collapsed in it. Known victims: rainbows, glowingbear

This post looks towny btw
Reminds me of legit pissed wave but then again I am turrible with newbie comparisons or at least people new to me

THE HARU READ IS COMING
#yolopromises

I actually kind of agree with this, meh.
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August 04 2014 23:55 GMT
#746
Someone mentioned that WoS' entry looks forced/forged. I agree that it looks like he thought about it before posting but it feels like normal WoS to me, though I haven't played a scumgame with him it wouldn't surprise me if it came from town.
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August 04 2014 23:57 GMT
#747
Wave, you mentioned you thought I was townie in the start. You haven't really mentioned that since other than telling Marv that you don't think I'm happening today. What's your read on me and why?
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August 05 2014 00:03 GMT
#750
On August 05 2014 09:01 Vivax wrote:
Artanis why can't you always be active like this and only when summoned

It's mere coincidence, I was already working on going through the thread before Eden posted.

Eden in your read about WoS you mention how Haru didn't hard defend WoS at first, yet later in Haru's defense you talk about how he defended a, from his perspective, town in WoS if he were scum and that not making sense. Do you consider what he did a defense or not?
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August 05 2014 00:05 GMT
#751
Jat why do you want to lynch me when we had the same two top scumspects in Obi and Haru? I find that really bizarre.
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August 05 2014 00:11 GMT
#754
On August 05 2014 09:10 Eden1892 wrote:
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On August 05 2014 09:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 09:01 Vivax wrote:
Artanis why can't you always be active like this and only when summoned

It's mere coincidence, I was already working on going through the thread before Eden posted.

Eden in your read about WoS you mention how Haru didn't hard defend WoS at first, yet later in Haru's defense you talk about how he defended a, from his perspective, town in WoS if he were scum and that not making sense. Do you consider what he did a defense or not?

a defense but not a hard-defense; Haru never (iirc) called Wave town (which in my understanding of the term "hard defense" is a necessary component) but he did say the argument against Wave was null which, compared to others calling it scum, is a defense

Okay, but then it's merely semantics of using the word hard defense over defense. I don't find that very telling.
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#755
On August 05 2014 09:11 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 04 2014 20:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:51 marvellosity wrote:
it's an "artanis can't be bothered to play which makes it quite a bit likelier he's mafia" lynch

Then you're worse at reading me than I thought. When did number of pages stop being an indicator for me?

oh i finally understood this, flicking through your filter.

That cop-idiot game. and at the time you wrote this question, you had less than 2 in-game pages of filter, so shrug.

One game which you know I probably won't replicate, and at the time about 12 hours passed or so, so 2 pages is a lot.
It's time to swallow the pill and unvote dear.
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#759
On August 05 2014 09:12 Eden1892 wrote:
uhh... k
relevance when

I wanted to know how much I agreed with your WoS case and that argument didn't make sense to me, so I needed clarification.
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#760
If Poof doesn't post that he's town at least 100 times today we should lynch him.
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August 05 2014 00:21 GMT
#762
On August 05 2014 09:19 Eden1892 wrote:
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On August 05 2014 09:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 09:12 Eden1892 wrote:
uhh... k
relevance when

I wanted to know how much I agreed with your WoS case and that argument didn't make sense to me, so I needed clarification.

but that argument didn't have anything to do with why Wave is scum
it was a tangential discussion on why I felt Haru was town

Wait, you're right.
I seem to be terrible this game. This is annoying.
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August 05 2014 00:24 GMT
#764
On August 05 2014 09:22 Eden1892 wrote:
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No, this is more accurate.
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August 05 2014 12:13 GMT
#1025
Well, I did put in a bunch of effort this game but my brain seems to be absent so it's not really helping.
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August 05 2014 12:16 GMT
#1027
On August 05 2014 21:15 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 05 2014 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, I did put in a bunch of effort this game but my brain seems to be absent so it's not really helping.

well you still have all day. i don't really know what i want from you though :x

I could say that I don't think I've ever used meta reads as scum because I've always been too lazy, but given I'm aware of that I guess that's not a very strong argument.
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August 05 2014 12:17 GMT
#1029
Actually I think I did use meta once. And with that I mean actually checking games and testing things rather than just using recollection.
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#1032
On August 05 2014 21:17 kushm4sta wrote:
which metaread of yours took effort?

Any meta read where I actually open their previous games instead of just thinking back.
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August 05 2014 12:21 GMT
#1035
It doesn't really matter where my vote is right now though.
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August 05 2014 12:23 GMT
#1038
On August 05 2014 21:21 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 05 2014 21:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It doesn't really matter where my vote is right now though.

Make it matter then.

It only matters where it is at the end of the day and it's not like I'm in a position where I can actually exert pressure onto anyone.
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August 05 2014 12:25 GMT
#1040
Well I deserve to die, but it will result in a green lynch so that seems detrimental to the whole town effort.
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#1045
That would require my brain to work, which at the moment seems to not be the case.
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#1051
On August 05 2014 21:27 kushm4sta wrote:
let artanis martyr, it's fine

I'm not martyring Kush, fuck off. I'm just kinda defeatist.
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#1056
On August 05 2014 21:35 kushm4sta wrote:
what does that excuse even mean, artanis? You suddenly got retarded? You don't have time? You aren't motivated?

I suddenly got retarded seems to be accurate. The lack of motivation follows from said realization.
On August 05 2014 21:35 Eden1892 wrote:
arty post some reads please

My opinions pretty much follow popular opinion other than on myself. Vivax' interaction with me felt weird, just answering me when I asked a question and when I returned to the thread he just mentioned how I come back when summoned. I have no idea what his read on me is which is strange when I'm one of the biggest cases in the game.

Poof's return to the thread and his reads make no sense to me. I also have no idea how he thinks of me and have no idea how he hasn't commented on that.
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August 05 2014 12:43 GMT
#1058
And I'm not sure what to think about Haru. That one post that wave mentioned did give me pause but there's nothing else in his filter that gives me townie feels. The fact that he jumped on referring to me when it wasn't even accurate and the shallowness of his reads don't sit well with me. I also don't understand why he wasn't pushing his top scumread Obi earlier and still had his vote on me when I was 4th in line in his scummeter.
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#1059
On August 05 2014 21:42 marvellosity wrote:
put your vote on who you think is mafia.

I'm kinda enjoying annoying you by keeping my vote on you though.
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August 05 2014 12:46 GMT
#1061
My vote will be on someone who I think is mafia at the end of the day. Anything else is just for show anyway.
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August 05 2014 12:49 GMT
#1063
It's clear what my position is; Vivax, Poof, and Haru are all legitimate lynches for me. Anyone who doesn't know that isn't reading the thread. Why are you focussing on this unimportant issue rather than the actual reads?
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August 05 2014 12:54 GMT
#1070
On August 05 2014 21:50 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 05 2014 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It's clear what my position is; Vivax, Poof, and Haru are all legitimate lynches for me. Anyone who doesn't know that isn't reading the thread. Why are you focussing on this unimportant issue rather than the actual reads?

if you had a gun, which would you kill, and why would you kill them over the other two?

I'd actually go with Haru. I'm not sure if he behaves this way as scum and that one post does give me pause, but the fact that I'm 4th on his kill list yet the one with his vote, the way he referred to my townread on Wave despite being very clear in why it was and the stuff HF mentioned about his reads all coming from stuff outside the game rather than the game itself make me the most confident in him. Second would be Vivax, partially because of popular opinion and partially because I've actually checked out some of Poof's other games and I really haven't come to a sound conclusion on what's different between his scum and towngame.
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#1073
On August 05 2014 21:54 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 05 2014 21:51 kushm4sta wrote:
eden did you not see what marv said? last time he was scum he let town kill him without putting up a fight.
That is metaevidence that he gives up as scum. So why are you townreading him for it?

the difference is that he's basically purposefully antagonising me right now.

Gotta get at least some enjoyment out of the game.
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August 05 2014 12:56 GMT
#1075
But I'll be nice to marv and change my vote. Consider it an act of friendship.
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#1078
On August 05 2014 21:55 Eden1892 wrote:
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On August 05 2014 21:54 kushm4sta wrote:
Of course artanis would do this as mafia. He is a person who likes logic and justice. He hates playing mafia. He is also prideful so he hates getting caught even more.

his reaction to getting "caught" (if that's how we're going to define this) is about as prideless as can be

I'd like to think I'm just honest about how I play. This game I've played like shit. That doesn't mean I'm shit, that just means I'm having a terrible game.
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#1079
Also if I gave up I wouldn't actually still be posting reads.
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August 05 2014 12:59 GMT
#1082
I never stated anything to the contrary kush.
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August 05 2014 13:01 GMT
#1085
I don't have time to play this game for 12 hours Marv. I also have other things I need to do. I've put plenty of hours in the game, but you can't expect me to play the entire day.
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#1122
Gobble I think your case is bad in that it doesn't explain why Haru is scum, at least the first part doesn't really matter to me. Scum is more likely to invent a bs reason to vote someone rather than just sheeping. I still think the strongest points are:
  • Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
  • List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
  • Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
  • In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)
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#1127
On August 04 2014 23:36 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 04 2014 23:26 marvellosity wrote:
On August 04 2014 23:23 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 22:55 marvellosity wrote:
that's stupid though.

any townie not playing as townie as possible in order to prevent themselves being a NK is both obnoxiously stupid and a complete asswipe.


Yea, and thus all good townies will die in early days while scum celebrate the shitup of the thread.

The best way to get a good looking thread is if all the townies look really town so it's easy to find the mafia...


Problem is, what constitutes looking really townie? What heuristics do you use to judge?

For example, the way you judge town is probably going to be different from pooft, who plays tons of video mafia, and different from me, who plays tons of game mafia (sc2/wc3).

Also, what is really townie looking? To artanis, wos is his really townie guy despite many objections and scumreads on wos.

Explain to me, marv.

This is the post that felt really awkward. How is this important and all? It just feels like he wanted to add in something of substance, yet he hadn't even read the interactions between me and wos properly or he would've instantly found out.
Artanis[Xp]
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Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:11 GMT
#1129
Also if I'm right and Haru is scum I'm rescinding that I played bad and you can all suck it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:13 GMT
#1132
On August 05 2014 23:11 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gobble I think your case is bad in that it doesn't explain why Haru is scum, at least the first part doesn't really matter to me. Scum is more likely to invent a bs reason to vote someone rather than just sheeping. I still think the strongest points are:
  • Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
  • List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
  • Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
  • In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)


Wrong. Your arguments aren't correct too.

1) I did not ask how strong marv's townreads are. I am asking if his townreads will align with anyone, thus achieving his 'everyone playing so townie scum dies' part.

2) I promised list posts. I delivered. I won't bother with anymore of this weak argument.

3) No. Like I said (this will be the very last time im saying this), I don't scumread based on unsubstantiated reads. It is instead based on how much content they are willing to deliver through their different promises. A potential content giver who haven't give shit early d1 (this is expected) is null read by me. But not you guys who deny content from me.

4) seriously?

1) You asked Marv what a strong townread was when this bore no relevance to the question. It was a deflection.
2) You said you don't give weak list posts as town, then you proceeded to give weak list posts. It's a contradiction.
3) Are you seriously saying you let promises influence your decision? Mafia are the king of promises. Townies just deliver when they have the information.
4) Yes.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:15 GMT
#1134
Haru if you think scum would want to hide in top town why are all the people you suspect the people everyone suspects?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:16 GMT
#1135
Like it doesn't make sense because scum would always want to appear as townie as possible, but I'm trying to use your logic here.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:22 GMT
#1142
On August 05 2014 23:17 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 23:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:11 HaruRH wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gobble I think your case is bad in that it doesn't explain why Haru is scum, at least the first part doesn't really matter to me. Scum is more likely to invent a bs reason to vote someone rather than just sheeping. I still think the strongest points are:
  • Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
  • List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
  • Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
  • In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)


Wrong. Your arguments aren't correct too.

1) I did not ask how strong marv's townreads are. I am asking if his townreads will align with anyone, thus achieving his 'everyone playing so townie scum dies' part.

2) I promised list posts. I delivered. I won't bother with anymore of this weak argument.

3) No. Like I said (this will be the very last time im saying this), I don't scumread based on unsubstantiated reads. It is instead based on how much content they are willing to deliver through their different promises. A potential content giver who haven't give shit early d1 (this is expected) is null read by me. But not you guys who deny content from me.

4) seriously?

1) You asked Marv what a strong townread was when this bore no relevance to the question. It was a deflection.
2) You said you don't give weak list posts as town, then you proceeded to give weak list posts. It's a contradiction.
3) Are you seriously saying you let promises influence your decision? Mafia are the king of promises. Townies just deliver when they have the information.
4) Yes.


1) how did you interpret 'Problem is, what constitutes looking really townie? What heuristics do you use to judge?' As what a strong townread was? Deflection from? It bore relevance to how I attempt to read marv.

2) yes and no. I said I dont give reads d1. I did not say I dont give weak list posts. Quote where I said it IN CONTEXT to the previous post I am replying to.

3) Yes. If you decide to give jackshit, you're trying to lurk.

4) no.

1) It should be very obvious what he means with top town. The comment was completely irrelevant to the context, thus deflecting from the original topic.
2) See Marv
3) Promises are irrelevant to actually doing things. Also, my original point was that your reads are unsubstantiated. You haven't given a proper case with reasoning on why I'm scum other than a very vague "his filter is unreadable and he hasn't delivered content". I have given concrete reasons for why you're scum.
4) Yes.
On August 05 2014 23:19 HaruRH wrote:
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On August 05 2014 23:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Haru if you think scum would want to hide in top town why are all the people you suspect the people everyone suspects?


So you're saying I must 100% throw them in scumreads? Not allowed to park them in null reads until I see anything fishy?

You have 5 (!!) scumreads and you have barely interacted with them, and then you still think there are scumreads in your null reads. How is anyone meant to take your reads seriously?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:28 GMT
#1146
Haru why aren't you engaging me on reasons that you think that I'm mafia? You have a million scumreads but you're only defending yourself and not trying to figure out my alignment. Given how many scumreads you have it seems unlikely you're convinced on me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:35 GMT
#1149
1) Townie looking: People posting looking townie because they're doing townie things like scumhunting and trying to solve the game.
2) Give some keywords at least to find it quicker. I have no idea what you mean.
3) You think anyone who doesn't promise content won't produce content? Are you like, being serious? I'm proving you wrong right now for one. Most people deliver content without promising it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:36 GMT
#1151
Also, what I'm asking is is the reasoning you used earlier (scum hiding in top town) relevant to your own list? Do you think it's likely there's scum hiding in your (top) town list?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:42 GMT
#1157
Haru I'm going to be here for another 10 minutes or so refreshing frequently awaiting questions for your top scumread. Now's your chance.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:45 GMT
#1161
That's a really unimportant point and I'm not going to waste time on that.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:54 GMT
#1165
On August 05 2014 23:53 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 08:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone mentioned that WoS' entry looks forced/forged. I agree that it looks like he thought about it before posting but it feels like normal WoS to me, though I haven't played a scumgame with him it wouldn't surprise me if it came from town.


Firstly, for someone who used meta reads on others early on, why do you leave a blank for scumreading wos? It is almost like you decided to not research into wos when earlier on, you mentioned that you did a ton of meta research.

I didn't do it for WoS because I was just pouring out reads at the time. I felt producing content quickly was more important than doing deep research, and I was hoping to spark a response with someone that was more knowledgable about wos' meta as he's played a lot of games in the past.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:57 GMT
#1169
On August 05 2014 23:55 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 08:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 05 2014 08:15 HaruRH wrote:
On August 05 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
Someone read this.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HaruRH

Save me from the tunnel plz because in the town games that I've read from haru when he scum hunts it includes quotes and posts and reasons and questions and he tries to find things, all I've seen from him now is generic lists and surface reading all over again and he just echos a lot of things already said


Dude wtf you're still twisting my words

I already said posting with quotes is paramount to suicide on mobile.

Also, I did not spend 25 minutes finding those stuff. I spent less than 3, but the effort of trying to copy and paste the quote using mobile is like trying to swallow a sword

Continue riding in the haru tunnel. Many had done so and collapsed in it. Known victims: rainbows, glowingbear

This post looks towny btw
Reminds me of legit pissed wave but then again I am turrible with newbie comparisons or at least people new to me

THE HARU READ IS COMING
#yolopromises

I actually kind of agree with this, meh.


Secondly, why are you attempting to scumread me for posting list posts when you already knew I was going to do so? I don't back off promises.

It's not saying you were going to do it; it's that you mentioned at first you don't make weak list posts as town, then proceed to make a weak list post.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 14:58 GMT
#1170
On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru

But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 15:01 GMT
#1175
You're misrepresenting my answer. I felt like throwing out what I had, and that initial read on WoS was one of them. It was a lead.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 15:01 GMT
#1176
On August 06 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru

But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first.

But you didn't really push it before marv started to. Now that he is on it you suddenly start to question Haru.

Actually, it was after Gobble that I did.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 15:03 GMT
#1178
On August 06 2014 00:00 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 21:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 21:35 kushm4sta wrote:
what does that excuse even mean, artanis? You suddenly got retarded? You don't have time? You aren't motivated?

I suddenly got retarded seems to be accurate. The lack of motivation follows from said realization.
On August 05 2014 21:35 Eden1892 wrote:
arty post some reads please

My opinions pretty much follow popular opinion other than on myself. Vivax' interaction with me felt weird, just answering me when I asked a question and when I returned to the thread he just mentioned how I come back when summoned. I have no idea what his read on me is which is strange when I'm one of the biggest cases in the game.

Poof's return to the thread and his reads make no sense to me. I also have no idea how he thinks of me and have no idea how he hasn't commented on that.


Third, you explicitly mentioned how your opinions (at that time) followed popular opinion. Is that not something you considered when you raised the point that I was sheeping eden for no reason?

I never raised you sheeping eden for no reason as a point for calling you scum. Only that it doesn't make sense in the context of scumreading 3 other people above me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 15:04 GMT
#1181
On August 06 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 00:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru

But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first.

But you didn't really push it before marv started to. Now that he is on it you suddenly start to question Haru.

Actually, it was after Gobble that I did.

Which was basically at the same time?

I had already indicated Haru was my top scumread, so it's not really relevant.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 15:05 GMT
#1183
Anyway, I'm off for now. I'll be back later tonight.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 15:07 GMT
#1189
On August 06 2014 00:05 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 08:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 03:32 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 05 2014 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's a pretty bad list kush.


how do you know

I'm on it for one, and I have minor townreads on the other two.

Haru, you've mentioned you favour Obi the most for a lynch today. Why have you not been pushing him or trying to interact with him? He's here and he's your biggest scumread yet you're not doing anything.

On August 05 2014 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:
poofter town lean for posting relaxed and carefree like a townie
minor town lean tho he needs to actually do something or else he'll be on the radar by day's end

gobble i'd have to go look up specifics to give a coherent explanation but i remember his posts having a lot of clarity of direction to them. he seemed like he was playing open and like he wasn't holding anything back. just looks townie to me

I don't think that's a good tell for poof. I've seen him post in cell as scum and he was very carefree there too. I'm not sure what really sets him out as mafia.


Your meta read on poofter is the weirdest thing ever. You meta read as null if he was carefree, but town if he spammed town today. How are these 2 mutually exclusive such that a non-carefree pooft would spam town over a carefree pooft, who wouldn't and thus fall into his supposed mafia meta, which you alteady said you don't know what sets him out as mafia?

I said that carefree wasn't alignment indicative for him because he's done it as both scum and town. I've seen pooft spam that he's town 100 times in a game I've played with him, which he did as town. Someone brought up that he would never do that as scum. I'm not sure of it but I figure it's a decent heuristic. I never said that carefree or non-carefree indicates anything for poof; he's just naturally carefree.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 15:09 GMT
#1191
On August 06 2014 00:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru

But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first.

But you didn't really push it before marv started to. Now that he is on it you suddenly start to question Haru.

Actually, it was after Gobble that I did.

Which was basically at the same time?

I had already indicated Haru was my top scumread, so it's not really relevant.

Yes, it is. You did indicate it earlier but you only started pushing and more importantly questioning when they started to.

I really don't see how it's alignment indicative. I went to do other things, saw that Haru came back into the thread and started pushing him as he did more scummy stuff.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 15:09 GMT
#1192
And now I'm really gone.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 19:29 GMT
#1319
HF do you not want to lynch haru anymore or is it just Vivax being even scummier?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 19:30 GMT
#1320
Also I can't get behind Gobble as scum. I know I'm town and I see no reason why he'd abandon my wagon when there's still plenty of steam for it. The change in attitude when it was unnecessary makes no sense for him from a scum perspective.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 19:34 GMT
#1323
On August 06 2014 04:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 04:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also I can't get behind Gobble as scum. I know I'm town and I see no reason why he'd abandon my wagon when there's still plenty of steam for it. The change in attitude when it was unnecessary makes no sense for him from a scum perspective.


There wasn't a reason for marv to push any townie over Xata in titanic and yet he did exactly that.
Faulty faulty reasoning.

Because Marv and Gobble are extremely comparable players. Take into context that Gobble is not a high volume poster.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 19:36 GMT
#1325
On August 06 2014 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Your reasoning isn't acceptable if you look at the facts posted. It's that typical egocentric reasoning any scum can use by saying "I know I'm town", and even if it was true it would be so WIFOM-y that it would exactly lead to nowhere.

I'm telling you why I'm not voting for him. I have information that you don't; my alignment. It also doesn't matter if scum can abuse it. I know it can be abused, it IS abused, but I don't think Gobble would simply due to his seeming nature as a low volume poster.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 19:45 GMT
#1328
On August 06 2014 04:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 04:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Your reasoning isn't acceptable if you look at the facts posted. It's that typical egocentric reasoning any scum can use by saying "I know I'm town", and even if it was true it would be so WIFOM-y that it would exactly lead to nowhere.

I'm telling you why I'm not voting for him. I have information that you don't; my alignment. It also doesn't matter if scum can abuse it. I know it can be abused, it IS abused, but I don't think Gobble would simply due to his seeming nature as a low volume poster.


So you're saying that no matter how scummy a guy looks, you're going to vote for him cause he unvoted you when your wagon had the chance to get you lynched?

It completely skips over any post analysis.

I'm saying that given the amount of content he's provided and the amount of time he's spent in the thread I don't consider him a good lynch candidate even solely based off that, yes. On top of that, I think his initial read on me was warranted. He's one of the people I'm least interested in lynching today.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 19:46 GMT
#1329
On August 06 2014 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 04:42 Vivax wrote:
On August 06 2014 04:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Your reasoning isn't acceptable if you look at the facts posted. It's that typical egocentric reasoning any scum can use by saying "I know I'm town", and even if it was true it would be so WIFOM-y that it would exactly lead to nowhere.

I'm telling you why I'm not voting for him. I have information that you don't; my alignment. It also doesn't matter if scum can abuse it. I know it can be abused, it IS abused, but I don't think Gobble would simply due to his seeming nature as a low volume poster.


So you're saying that no matter how scummy a guy looks, you're going to vote for him cause he unvoted you when your wagon had the chance to get you lynched?

It completely skips over any post analysis.

There are some more logical problems with it.
1) If the wagon still has steam maybe he didn't want to be on a mislynch wagon?
2) I don't think anything was settled at that point in time. Artanis is giving the unvote way to much weight.

1) He started the wagon and wasn't the one pushing it through. It doesn't seem likely that it'd come back to haunt him.
2) Of course not, but you'd want to keep the train in motion as scum.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 19:48 GMT
#1332
On August 06 2014 04:47 Eden1892 wrote:
who the fuck are we lynching today?

I'd still like to see Haru hang from a tree. His questions towards me when he had the chance really didn't go anywhere and I was unsatisfied with his replies regarding my points on him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 19:50 GMT
#1336
On August 06 2014 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
Has jaru disappeared now ppl are defending him AGAIN???

He went to bed, and with his timezone I believe it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 19:51 GMT
#1337
On August 06 2014 04:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 04:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 04:42 Vivax wrote:
On August 06 2014 04:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Your reasoning isn't acceptable if you look at the facts posted. It's that typical egocentric reasoning any scum can use by saying "I know I'm town", and even if it was true it would be so WIFOM-y that it would exactly lead to nowhere.

I'm telling you why I'm not voting for him. I have information that you don't; my alignment. It also doesn't matter if scum can abuse it. I know it can be abused, it IS abused, but I don't think Gobble would simply due to his seeming nature as a low volume poster.


So you're saying that no matter how scummy a guy looks, you're going to vote for him cause he unvoted you when your wagon had the chance to get you lynched?

It completely skips over any post analysis.

I'm saying that given the amount of content he's provided and the amount of time he's spent in the thread I don't consider him a good lynch candidate even solely based off that, yes. On top of that, I think his initial read on me was warranted. He's one of the people I'm least interested in lynching today.


I would argue he's one of the guys who posted the least, if not THE guy who posted the least, so I don't see why now you use a post volume argument.

The post volume to content, and intelligent decision making ratio seems too high for him to likely be scum to me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 20:03 GMT
#1352
I dunno, it seems like a really weird thing to lie about, especially when the guy that played that game with you is playing in this game too. Doesn't really make sense.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 20:20 GMT
#1363
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 20:22 GMT
#1370
On August 06 2014 05:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi?


Nah.

Would you do work if threatened with getting lynched?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 20:25 GMT
#1373
On August 06 2014 05:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi?


Nah.

Would you do work if threatened with getting lynched?


Idk.

If this is what you call scumhunting it's really dumb.

It was a set up for a funny, but you didn't really co-operate there.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 20:32 GMT
#1379
On August 06 2014 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 05:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Did you actually do that GD reread, Obi?


Nah.

Would you do work if threatened with getting lynched?


Idk.

If this is what you call scumhunting it's really dumb.

It was a set up for a funny, but you didn't really co-operate there.


Lynching me is never funny, Artanis.

Never.

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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 20:37 GMT
#1382
I'm fine with killing Obi on D2 if he doesn't get his shit together. Right now it's a bit too late to pressure vote though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 20:48 GMT
#1404
Marv do you still want to lynch Vivax over Haru today?
Artanis[Xp]
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Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 21:00 GMT
#1422
On August 06 2014 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 06 2014 05:54 kushm4sta wrote:
jat, i dont get why you are so strung up on that.
haru thought the METHODS behind the reads were scummy. the reads themselves were early so ofc scum could be busing or his reads could be straight up wrong.

Yeah? I don't get how you can't see how blatantly scummy that is. It is like he just forgot his "scumreads".

This reminds me of someone, namely you. We've had pretty similar scumspects throughout the game (Haru, Obi at the start and Haru, Poof later on) yet I've been (one of) your top scumspects as well. What's up with that?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 21:03 GMT
#1430
On August 06 2014 06:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 06:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:54 kushm4sta wrote:
jat, i dont get why you are so strung up on that.
haru thought the METHODS behind the reads were scummy. the reads themselves were early so ofc scum could be busing or his reads could be straight up wrong.

Yeah? I don't get how you can't see how blatantly scummy that is. It is like he just forgot his "scumreads".

This reminds me of someone, namely you. We've had pretty similar scumspects throughout the game (Haru, Obi at the start and Haru, Poof later on) yet I've been (one of) your top scumspects as well. What's up with that?

The deciding difference here is that I did not call you scum for having those reads.

Fair.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 21:03 GMT
#1433
On August 06 2014 05:57 kushm4sta wrote:
can we compromise on artanis though?

Can I call you bad for this after the game even though I've played bad too?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 21:05 GMT
#1437
On August 06 2014 06:05 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:57 kushm4sta wrote:
can we compromise on artanis though?

Can I call you bad for this after the game even though I've played bad too?


having incorrect reads d1 is not bad.

I'm glad you agree you're reading me incorrectly.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 21:08 GMT
#1441
On August 06 2014 06:07 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 06:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 06:05 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 06 2014 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:57 kushm4sta wrote:
can we compromise on artanis though?

Can I call you bad for this after the game even though I've played bad too?


having incorrect reads d1 is not bad.

I'm glad you agree you're reading me incorrectly.


No. I'm saying if I'm wrong about you that wouldn't make me bad. I see what you are doing right now as obvious scum mind games so I still believe im correct about yuou.

You're not very good at the banter Kush.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 21:15 GMT
#1449
On August 06 2014 06:14 Eden1892 wrote:
p.s. vote haru

This.
[list][*] Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
[*] List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
[*] Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
[*] In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 21:16 GMT
#1452
Goddamnit I holyflared it up
Artanis[Xp]
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Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 21:32 GMT
#1457
Congratulations, I'm very proud that you were able to fix the bbcode.

1. Because it was phrased in a completely awkward way. It was basically dragged along, and then it turned out he hadn't even read it properly. Why would you bring up something that isn't even related when you haven't even read the context?
2+3 Weak excuse. It means he didn't actually stand for what he said, which means his initial comments of how he doesn't do that were lies.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:08 GMT
#1473
I'm here if you have a good case for Vivax HF.
Obi if you prefer a GD lynch then put some god damn effort into it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:19 GMT
#1484
Are you finally townreading me Marv?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:22 GMT
#1487
Thank you for that great addition Kush.
Artanis[Xp]
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Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:23 GMT
#1489
It's a valid heuristic for me being town though.
Artanis[Xp]
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Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:29 GMT
#1494
Wave did say he probably wouldn't be around during the deadlines.
Artanis[Xp]
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Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:44 GMT
#1514
Stop making sense on GD. I don't want to reconsider.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:48 GMT
#1527
On August 06 2014 07:47 Vivax wrote:
Artanis you know you will get lynched at some point if gobbly flips red?

No I won't.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:50 GMT
#1536
So we have 4 votes on Gobble 2 on Vivax 7 on Haru right now
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:52 GMT
#1546
Shenannies always good.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:53 GMT
#1550
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:54 GMT
#1553
I'm really worried this'll head on to a no lynch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:56 GMT
#1562
Just need one more.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:57 GMT
#1567
Obi if you don' switch it's a no lynch and that loses town a lynch overall.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 22:59 GMT
#1578
[image loading]
Never forget.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 23:05 GMT
#1583
Well piss. I was pretty confident when he stopped posting near the end of deadline.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 23:06 GMT
#1586
I thought you said that when vivax is an asshole he's town though?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 23:10 GMT
#1595
On August 06 2014 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 08:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I thought you said that when vivax is an asshole he's town though?

don't even understand why you're asking me this

It just came to mind and I wasn't sure if it was you or HF that said it. It's just me being frustrated.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 23:12 GMT
#1597
Congrats on the science vessel icon Holy.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 23:14 GMT
#1599
God you people are so awkward with banter.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 23:27 GMT
#1602
GD's play makes the most sense for a jester tbh.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 23:39 GMT
#1605
I don't think you're dying N1 this game gobble.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2014 23:52 GMT
#1611
I'm open to the idea of you being town gobble. Take your time and give us your reads.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 08 2014 23:00 GMT
#2873
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 12 2014 23:18 GMT
#4150
Gg scum, wp.

Also the people that wondered out loud why I replaced out was something that really bothered me. I understand your frustration with how it went and I definitely shouldn't have posted that , but I had pretty much no choice regarding replacing out. I've got a thesis due on the 18th but I thought I could combine it with Mafia as I was planning on just spending 2 hours a day on it, but I ended up not doing that and gathering up all the work. Still thought I could but the entire day I was just thinking about the game and couldn't focus so I had to replace out.

In the end I ended up spending my time on the BW Reunion Tournament I'm hosting instead though and I'm probably just going to pass up on handing in the thesis and drop out but that's a topic I'd rather not discuss in the open out here.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 12 2014 23:18 GMT
#4151
Also if I have a 10 page filter on D1 it's pretty doubtful I'm mafia, even if I played pretty awful. I just can't do it as scum.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 12 2014 23:24 GMT
#4159
Stupid holy and marv making me switch from my tunnel
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 12 2014 23:26 GMT
#4164
On August 13 2014 08:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Also sorry to hear about irl troubles Arty Good luck with everything!

It's fine. I'm in a situation where I can afford it. I just wish people would presume I have a good reason when I sub out, I don't do it very often.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 23:27:31
August 12 2014 23:27 GMT
#4167
Just start having different living times k? Midnight CEST is a perfect compromise between EU's and Americans.
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