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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2014 22:36 GMT
#701
On August 05 2014 07:34 justanothertownie wrote:
You called him dumb earlier.

Yeah, I still don't feel the poofter townieness...


I don't either.
Retired.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 04 2014 22:36 GMT
#702
i'm probably not deciding my lynch until tomorrow afternoon-ish, tbh.

will sheep excellent cases too, however.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 04 2014 22:36 GMT
#703
^but the bang marry kill thing was so cute
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
August 04 2014 22:37 GMT
#704
On August 05 2014 07:34 kushm4sta wrote:
jat cause eden looks so town. thats why i, personally, dont care.
so you caring doesn't mesh with my townie perspective on the game.

i care about you caring because you do not look so town to me.
I may change my read on you when I actually put some time into filters later tonight.

Oh, I think Eden is pretty damn towny and I did so pretty much from the start of the game. I just wanted to know if he has a good reason to think they are town.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 04 2014 22:42 GMT
#705
I just woke up, read the whole thread while munching on cookies and saw hf's attempts to use a heuristic on me that don't make sense. It applies more on the lurkers than me.

Btw, for the meta junkies I have a present for you all:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 28 2014 01:13 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 01:00 Rainbows wrote:
On June 28 2014 00:46 IAmRobik wrote:
On June 28 2014 00:15 Rainbows wrote:
On June 28 2014 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Rainbows frankly I don't think you can nail Koshi with the buddying argument cause we were kinda hoping to not roll opposite alignments this game.
I buddied him back even when being suspicious of him so you can't only apply that argument to him but also to me. Just consider it something that would have happened in some way regardless of our alignments.

You already mentioned the post where he talks about kush, robik and somebody else I think and imho that is more concerning about Koshi who I remember as more tryhard as town.


He's usually quick to recognize me as scum if I deviate from my town standard so during the whole Palmar vs. Me thingy I would have expected him to either acknowledge Palmar's arguments as bad or at least try harder to figure me out instead of trying to get me to talk about other things and staying on the sidelines.

It's a bit of a subjective feel read, but if you compare his filter with this game you will notice that he also starts with a jokey phase but becomes curious about the stuff that's going on rather quickly.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447645-normal-ass-normal-game?user=Koshi&view=all

Tbh I would like to have more stuff going on about Palmar and his new read on Koshi. Will he deliver such a case as he did on me?


My problem is the other game Koshi was town in, I had a scumread on him in the beginning. This time he gives a lot of 'we should look more closely!' whereas in another game to not be named he gave a lot of genuinely considered bad reads for Day 1 and was pressured heavily for it.

I think rainbows is town for the bolded

I think that he'd be more careful not to get modkilled if he was mafia and would make sure he wouldn't even come close to referencing ongoing games again after the mod warning


I wasn't referencing an ongoing game. I was referencing a completely random finished game where similar stuff happened, I swear.

##Unvote
##Vote: HaruRH


Plz responderino. Reads now


<3 rainbows

I do not normally do reads on d1 unless someone ultimately scummy pops out.
On July 23 2014 18:42 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 18:37 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 11:44 batsnacks wrote:
##Unvote: HaruRH

I don't think Haru's response below warranted this unvote.

Can anyone see the townie rainbows in this particular post?
On July 23 2014 11:40 HaruRH wrote:
@batsnacks

My read on damdred is still null, but it is closer to town than most nulls due to his response to this xatalos pressure on him.

On July 23 2014 08:34 Damdred wrote:
On July 23 2014 08:29 kushm4sta wrote:
On July 23 2014 07:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Particular focus to what he said about kush " I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him".
He is a good player as scum, so, let him live, guys. I don't get this logic.

While saying that a lot of people needs time because he can't judge now, suddenly, damdred can be lynched because of his gut feelings. Contradictory.


I don't get why you don't like the logic in the first post. What would you do, automatically scumread me?

the second point is a misrepresentation. xatalos' read on damdred seems no where near strong enough that he wants to lynch him. he was identifying some gut feelings, which we all have. so what's wrong with that?


Its all well and good to have gut feelings and we all should act on them. However he does seem to vote for my lynch before i have returned his not strong read led to a vote?


He answers xatalos' suspicion on him with logical thinking, which is pretty good compared to freaking out.

Also, his 'read' on xatalos is well substantiated and better than most cases on xatalos, which is another plus.

Still hesitant to call anyone town on d1.



I have never felt townier. I actually tried to analyse someone with 2 useable posts. Effort. I would call myself a town for doing this.



It is almost against my meta to post reads early on. Someone will eventually dig these out and attack me for actually posting reads, so i'm dumping these here now.

Btw it took me easily 25 mins to attempt to put 2 quotes from other games here due to how atrocious phone posting is. If you want a read post with substantiation, you'll need to wait.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 04 2014 22:43 GMT
#706
i don't have anything that would really convince others and i'm not very concerned with it atm because i don't ~think~ either of them are seriously being considered anyway

i would much rather pick from the five i'm indifferent about. any thoughts on them?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 04 2014 22:44 GMT
#707
oh, but at least one of them is.

fair warning that i might decide to lynch the pants off poofter at some stage.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2014 22:45 GMT
#708
Who self-metas themselves as town?

Is that even a towny thing to do? Wtf?
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
August 04 2014 22:46 GMT
#709
On August 05 2014 07:43 Eden1892 wrote:
i don't have anything that would really convince others and i'm not very concerned with it atm because i don't ~think~ either of them are seriously being considered anyway

i would much rather pick from the five i'm indifferent about. any thoughts on them?

Yeah, this JAT guy seems pretty town.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 04 2014 22:46 GMT
#710
In Noir 2 obi had a similar style and he was town.
But I want obi to legit explain his marv read.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 04 2014 22:48 GMT
#711
On August 05 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
aite here's where i am

not killing ever: Eden1892
not killing today: marvellosity, Holyflare, kushm4sta, gobbledydook
don't want to kill today, but would: Tehpoofter, Vivax, HaruRH
indifferent to killing today: goodkarma, WaveofShadow, Artanis, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi
actively want to kill today:

the blankness in the last category is bothering me and probably why i feel scatterbrained atm, i made this list for my benefit and yours, let's work something out

there's five people in the "indifferent" category, someone help me pick one


Ill do it for you

Goodkarma: came out early with tons of aggression, never relented and disappeared conveniently.

Wos: bad start with stiff post, continued posting awkwardly that seemed rehearsed.

Artanis: using meta reads as a basis of his reads (I really dont agree with doing this).

Justanothertownie: I don't really feel much from him except that I don't agree with his scumreads at all.

Obiwan: being useless In this game much? I don't see him voting anything meaningful, or doing any moves that included thinking.

Overall, obi> wos> gk> artanis> jat in terms of who to lynch.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 04 2014 22:49 GMT
#712
On August 05 2014 07:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who self-metas themselves as town?

Is that even a towny thing to do? Wtf?

Exactly. Because some kids can't read. Open your eyes and you will see the light, my boy!
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 04 2014 22:52 GMT
#713
On August 05 2014 07:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who self-metas themselves as town?

Is that even a towny thing to do? Wtf?

dude i thought that shit was fucking awesome lmao

i love giving reads on myself if people are giving me shit

the act itself is null, i would evaluate it on the strength of the self-read.
...which admittedly i feel like wasn't a great argument

jat why is justanothertownie town, i feel like that guy who's looking at a box that says "THIS SIDE UP" with a hole on the other side of the box when i look at justanothertownie's name
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 04 2014 22:56 GMT
#714
four minutes until my RNG says we lynch Artanis[Xp]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 04 2014 22:57 GMT
#715
three minutes until my RNG says we lynch ObiWanShinobi
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 04 2014 22:57 GMT
#716
two minutes until my RNG says we lynch goodkarma
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2014 22:58 GMT
#717
On August 05 2014 07:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 07:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who self-metas themselves as town?

Is that even a towny thing to do? Wtf?

dude i thought that shit was fucking awesome lmao

i love giving reads on myself if people are giving me shit

the act itself is null, i would evaluate it on the strength of the self-read.
...which admittedly i feel like wasn't a great argument

jat why is justanothertownie town, i feel like that guy who's looking at a box that says "THIS SIDE UP" with a hole on the other side of the box when i look at justanothertownie's name


I hate it. Who metas themselves as town? The concept of concluding that you're town because of meta is bad because you can misinterpret your own meta to suit your own goals, and it falls under the category of trying too hard to be town because you don't think you can stand up on your own merits.

I know I had a strong urge to meta myself when I rolled scum, and that's part of the reason I don't like that post.

I'm in a rush, so I'll probably delve into it later, but I think it's mega scummy. Last time I caught HF doing this, he was mafia.
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
August 04 2014 22:58 GMT
#718
Sorry, I won't self-meta myself. It should be pretty obvious that I am town.
Of your list of 5 I think Artanis/Obi are the best lynches right now.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
August 04 2014 22:59 GMT
#719
Probably Artanis over Obi.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 04 2014 23:00 GMT
#720
On August 05 2014 07:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 07:52 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 05 2014 07:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who self-metas themselves as town?

Is that even a towny thing to do? Wtf?

dude i thought that shit was fucking awesome lmao

i love giving reads on myself if people are giving me shit

the act itself is null, i would evaluate it on the strength of the self-read.
...which admittedly i feel like wasn't a great argument

jat why is justanothertownie town, i feel like that guy who's looking at a box that says "THIS SIDE UP" with a hole on the other side of the box when i look at justanothertownie's name


I hate it. Who metas themselves as town? The concept of concluding that you're town because of meta is bad because you can misinterpret your own meta to suit your own goals, and it falls under the category of trying too hard to be town because you don't think you can stand up on your own merits.

I know I had a strong urge to meta myself when I rolled scum, and that's part of the reason I don't like that post.

I'm in a rush, so I'll probably delve into it later, but I think it's mega scummy. Last time I caught HF doing this, he was mafia.


Since you appeared, can you tell me why marv is scum?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
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