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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:20 GMT
#4021
On August 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Obi give your reads and explain them in... I dunno, 3 sentences or less for each.


Eden: Town. The only time I doubted this was earlier today, when I thought I had something on one of your reads. I think it's kind of silly that you change your reads so frequently for poor reasoning, but your current hyper flexibility is going to be the death of us. I just find it really hard to believe that a scum can have 33 pages of content and have all of these arguments about the game state while keeping their story straight the entire time. Not a great heuristic, I know, but I'm standing by it at this point.

Wave: Town. Showing doubt in all the right places and desperately trying to understand what's going on. There's no reason for him to stick his neck out while a bunch of people are voting me for "being a dick" when this lynch is borderline set in stone anyway.

GD: Scum. Extremely flimsy pretenses for votes "yeah he's being a dick let's vote him" and clearly doesn't care who we lynch. "Yeah ok" is not an acceptable answer at lylo, of all things.

Haru: Null. Hasn't done much, kind of like me I guess. The only thing I see him doing right now is voting me because I want to lynch into a pool of 4 people.

Goodkarma: Null. Had an extremely bad voteswitch from you to Haru and that makes me nervous. I can't really remember him doing anything today which also makes me nervous, but I can't tell if it's because he's genuinely apathetic or because Haru and I are two towns fighting.

Jat: Fucking scum. I don't know why anyone is listening to this guy because he clearly doesn't give a shit about trying to figure out alignments. He posted some really bad analysis based on votes and unflipped associations that you, yourself, already pressured me on. I gave you reasoning on this, and he just turned around and rehashed it and can't elaborate on why I'm scum without saying "go reread his whole filter right now, one hour from deadline because I never bothered to do it lol."

I think I covered my reads right now. I'd much rather lynch Jat today before everyone else, but I think that's it.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 22:20 GMT
#4022
I'm mostly paying attention to the Haru wagon because it formed more slowly (easier to determine if it's 'safe' to vote or not) but I suppose it can apply to the current one as well.
Implicates Obi/GK and sort of GD, while the current wagon implicates JAT/GD/me.
I think the more conclusive evidence is the Haru wagon for the above reason, but then that means Haru would have to be town for it to work.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16330 Posts
August 12 2014 22:22 GMT
#4023
Ok, Obi I will do you a favor and cite some things from your filter that show how scummy you are. But I really don't even need to because your play in LYLO already proves that.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:22 GMT
#4024
On August 13 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright unless I'm getting played hella bad and 2/3 of my town reads are scum AND Haru and Obi are somehow both town as a consequence, the quick switch to Obi proves the mafia is busing without a doubt.


*Extremely flimsy vote switching.
*Mass voteswitches.
*Zero resistance to any of the switches.

Yep. Definitely both mafia. 10/10 ggnore
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16330 Posts
August 12 2014 22:23 GMT
#4025
On August 13 2014 07:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Obi give your reads and explain them in... I dunno, 3 sentences or less for each.


Eden: Town. The only time I doubted this was earlier today, when I thought I had something on one of your reads. I think it's kind of silly that you change your reads so frequently for poor reasoning, but your current hyper flexibility is going to be the death of us. I just find it really hard to believe that a scum can have 33 pages of content and have all of these arguments about the game state while keeping their story straight the entire time. Not a great heuristic, I know, but I'm standing by it at this point.

Wave: Town. Showing doubt in all the right places and desperately trying to understand what's going on. There's no reason for him to stick his neck out while a bunch of people are voting me for "being a dick" when this lynch is borderline set in stone anyway.

GD: Scum. Extremely flimsy pretenses for votes "yeah he's being a dick let's vote him" and clearly doesn't care who we lynch. "Yeah ok" is not an acceptable answer at lylo, of all things.

Haru: Null. Hasn't done much, kind of like me I guess. The only thing I see him doing right now is voting me because I want to lynch into a pool of 4 people.

Goodkarma: Null. Had an extremely bad voteswitch from you to Haru and that makes me nervous. I can't really remember him doing anything today which also makes me nervous, but I can't tell if it's because he's genuinely apathetic or because Haru and I are two towns fighting.

Jat: Fucking scum. I don't know why anyone is listening to this guy because he clearly doesn't give a shit about trying to figure out alignments. He posted some really bad analysis based on votes and unflipped associations that you, yourself, already pressured me on. I gave you reasoning on this, and he just turned around and rehashed it and can't elaborate on why I'm scum without saying "go reread his whole filter right now, one hour from deadline because I never bothered to do it lol."

I think I covered my reads right now. I'd much rather lynch Jat today before everyone else, but I think that's it.

Eden = town but Obi still voted him earlier.
gk and Haru both NULL. ROFL.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:23 GMT
#4026
That's it. I'm switching to Jat and I'm not unvoting. If you're town, you'll sheep me and be done with it.

The lynch is now between me and Jat and fuck everyone else that thinks otherwise.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 22:24 GMT
#4027
On August 13 2014 07:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright unless I'm getting played hella bad and 2/3 of my town reads are scum AND Haru and Obi are somehow both town as a consequence, the quick switch to Obi proves the mafia is busing without a doubt.


*Extremely flimsy vote switching.
*Mass voteswitches.
*Zero resistance to any of the switches.

Yep. Definitely both mafia. 10/10 ggnore

See the problem with what you're insinuating here is that mafia wouldn't bus and would try to resist.
Do you know how difficult it is not to bus at LYLO as scum? Especially if you don't want to implicate yourself to survive to try to win on later days.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16330 Posts
August 12 2014 22:25 GMT
#4028
On August 13 2014 07:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's it. I'm switching to Jat and I'm not unvoting. If you're town, you'll sheep me and be done with it.

The lynch is now between me and Jat and fuck everyone else that thinks otherwise.

Bring it on bitch.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 22:25 GMT
#4029
On August 13 2014 07:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Obi give your reads and explain them in... I dunno, 3 sentences or less for each.


Eden: Town. The only time I doubted this was earlier today, when I thought I had something on one of your reads. I think it's kind of silly that you change your reads so frequently for poor reasoning, but your current hyper flexibility is going to be the death of us. I just find it really hard to believe that a scum can have 33 pages of content and have all of these arguments about the game state while keeping their story straight the entire time. Not a great heuristic, I know, but I'm standing by it at this point.

Wave: Town. Showing doubt in all the right places and desperately trying to understand what's going on. There's no reason for him to stick his neck out while a bunch of people are voting me for "being a dick" when this lynch is borderline set in stone anyway.

GD: Scum. Extremely flimsy pretenses for votes "yeah he's being a dick let's vote him" and clearly doesn't care who we lynch. "Yeah ok" is not an acceptable answer at lylo, of all things.

Haru: Null. Hasn't done much, kind of like me I guess. The only thing I see him doing right now is voting me because I want to lynch into a pool of 4 people.

Goodkarma: Null. Had an extremely bad voteswitch from you to Haru and that makes me nervous. I can't really remember him doing anything today which also makes me nervous, but I can't tell if it's because he's genuinely apathetic or because Haru and I are two towns fighting.

Jat: Fucking scum. I don't know why anyone is listening to this guy because he clearly doesn't give a shit about trying to figure out alignments. He posted some really bad analysis based on votes and unflipped associations that you, yourself, already pressured me on. I gave you reasoning on this, and he just turned around and rehashed it and can't elaborate on why I'm scum without saying "go reread his whole filter right now, one hour from deadline because I never bothered to do it lol."

I think I covered my reads right now. I'd much rather lynch Jat today before everyone else, but I think that's it.

Eden = town but Obi still voted him earlier.
gk and Haru both NULL. ROFL.

imo the wrose thing about this is he somehow decided the reasoning for Eden to be town NOW when nothing has changed since the time he was voting him.

Hmm. Things might actually be looking good.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 12 2014 22:25 GMT
#4030
On August 13 2014 07:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm mostly paying attention to the Haru wagon because it formed more slowly (easier to determine if it's 'safe' to vote or not) but I suppose it can apply to the current one as well.
Implicates Obi/GK and sort of GD, while the current wagon implicates JAT/GD/me.
I think the more conclusive evidence is the Haru wagon for the above reason, but then that means Haru would have to be town for it to work.



That heuristic is supposed to work regardless of alignment.

If I am town: scum will be less likely to be 1/2 voter since that indicates confirmation and changing who you really want to vote all the time is not town indicative. 3/4 is the safest bet since you can be 'blend in' and switch anytime you want without looking like you are dead set on your scumreads.

If I am scum: who the fuck votes 1/2 on their scummate and bus their scummate so quickly? 3/4 voter makes sense since ^
They can quickly switch anytime they want too.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 12 2014 22:26 GMT
#4031
its 8am im only here to change my vote if needed
let me go back to sleep
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 22:26 GMT
#4032
EDEN YOUD BETTER BE RIGHT
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 12 2014 22:26 GMT
#4033
On August 13 2014 07:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's it. I'm switching to Jat and I'm not unvoting. If you're town, you'll sheep me and be done with it.

The lynch is now between me and Jat and fuck everyone else that thinks otherwise.

[image loading]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:26 GMT
#4034
On August 13 2014 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright unless I'm getting played hella bad and 2/3 of my town reads are scum AND Haru and Obi are somehow both town as a consequence, the quick switch to Obi proves the mafia is busing without a doubt.


*Extremely flimsy vote switching.
*Mass voteswitches.
*Zero resistance to any of the switches.

Yep. Definitely both mafia. 10/10 ggnore

See the problem with what you're insinuating here is that mafia wouldn't bus and would try to resist.
Do you know how difficult it is not to bus at LYLO as scum? Especially if you don't want to implicate yourself to survive to try to win on later days.


It doesn't matter because of how unlikely it is that the wagon switched to me for poor reasoning.

Unless you believe being a dick is a scumtell. Which worked out so well on day 1.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 22:26 GMT
#4035
LOL GODDAMN IT EDEN I CANT BE MAD AT YOU
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 12 2014 22:27 GMT
#4036
On August 13 2014 07:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
EDEN YOUD BETTER BE RIGHT

That's what I'm saying! But I feel good about this one
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:27 GMT
#4037
On August 13 2014 07:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Obi give your reads and explain them in... I dunno, 3 sentences or less for each.


Eden: Town. The only time I doubted this was earlier today, when I thought I had something on one of your reads. I think it's kind of silly that you change your reads so frequently for poor reasoning, but your current hyper flexibility is going to be the death of us. I just find it really hard to believe that a scum can have 33 pages of content and have all of these arguments about the game state while keeping their story straight the entire time. Not a great heuristic, I know, but I'm standing by it at this point.

Wave: Town. Showing doubt in all the right places and desperately trying to understand what's going on. There's no reason for him to stick his neck out while a bunch of people are voting me for "being a dick" when this lynch is borderline set in stone anyway.

GD: Scum. Extremely flimsy pretenses for votes "yeah he's being a dick let's vote him" and clearly doesn't care who we lynch. "Yeah ok" is not an acceptable answer at lylo, of all things.

Haru: Null. Hasn't done much, kind of like me I guess. The only thing I see him doing right now is voting me because I want to lynch into a pool of 4 people.

Goodkarma: Null. Had an extremely bad voteswitch from you to Haru and that makes me nervous. I can't really remember him doing anything today which also makes me nervous, but I can't tell if it's because he's genuinely apathetic or because Haru and I are two towns fighting.

Jat: Fucking scum. I don't know why anyone is listening to this guy because he clearly doesn't give a shit about trying to figure out alignments. He posted some really bad analysis based on votes and unflipped associations that you, yourself, already pressured me on. I gave you reasoning on this, and he just turned around and rehashed it and can't elaborate on why I'm scum without saying "go reread his whole filter right now, one hour from deadline because I never bothered to do it lol."

I think I covered my reads right now. I'd much rather lynch Jat today before everyone else, but I think that's it.

Eden = town but Obi still voted him earlier.
gk and Haru both NULL. ROFL.

imo the wrose thing about this is he somehow decided the reasoning for Eden to be town NOW when nothing has changed since the time he was voting him.

Hmm. Things might actually be looking good.


Uhm. Did you miss the back-and-forth that Eden and I had when I went after him?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:28 GMT
#4038
On August 13 2014 07:26 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 07:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's it. I'm switching to Jat and I'm not unvoting. If you're town, you'll sheep me and be done with it.

The lynch is now between me and Jat and fuck everyone else that thinks otherwise.

[image loading]


If you mislynch me here I am never going to forgive you. Ever.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 12 2014 22:29 GMT
#4039
No I didn't, but the reasons you stated could have applied yesterday or the day before.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 12 2014 22:31 GMT
#4040
On August 13 2014 07:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
No I didn't, but the reasons you stated could have applied yesterday or the day before.


...So?
Retired.
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