Goodkarma do you feel Haru's resistance to your attempts to coerce him into scumreading WoS, or finding him scummy for not doing so is alignment indicative?

Vivax

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August 04 2014 00:41 GMT

#268

attempts to find him scummy for not doing so might be more appropriate. At least that's how I read your questions to him.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 00:51 GMT

#275

I'd stick to "I'll wait to form more reads" with what haru said instead of riding on the weird math he has attempted, which was probably just some way to bring the point across that he wants to wait to decide on his read.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 00:52 GMT

#277

It's not mafiaish at all he just has a different opinion than you and not everyone with a different opinion is mafia.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 00:55 GMT

#280

On August 04 2014 09:53 Holyflare wrote:
why are you trying to shut down discussion vivax wtf?

Wouldn't say I'm shutting it down since it makes you react to me as well. We can discuss all you want.

I'm just giving you my own opinion about Haru's posts and the accusations you make.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 00:58 GMT

#284

I do get scum feels from GK for some reason but I'm not really confident about it.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 01:01 GMT

#287

I think it's the tryhard way he entered the thread and then started berating Haru about that post. Something is off with that.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 01:01 GMT

#289

On August 04 2014 10:01 gobbledydook wrote:
GG checking in.

Hi scum.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 01:14 GMT

#291

Meeeeeh he might just be really suspicious about what haru wrote idk but the gut doesn't like it.

The loaded style: "Why are you not scumreading WoS" kinda gave me the feel of a scummy accusation, and that he entered the thread with a very dry "agree about WoS" too.

Then brushing off that he might have found Haru suspicious for that when I asked him. He just wanted to understand his point of view? HF on the other hand found it outright mafiaish, and I actually thought GK found Haru scummy too from the style of the questions but apparently he didn't really see something alignment indicative like HF did.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 01:22 GMT

#293

Goodkarma do you feel I'm throwing bad accusations?

It's like, I enter the game and it's a nice fluffy place full of friendly people who want to kill marv, if you ignore HF at least and then the saloon doors open and in comes this grim guy: "Agree about WoS" and sits down in a dark corner.

This is more or less the feeling I got from you.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 01:32 GMT

#295

On August 04 2014 10:29 gobbledydook wrote:

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Exactly what I think. Let's stop circlejerking.

I don't find anything particularly interesting in any of this discussion yet. It's 80% /towncirclejerk and 20% discussion on waveofshadow's meta, which isn't convincing at all. I also don't see how waveofshadow's <3333-throwing is indicative of any alignment. I feel it's more a stylistic choice, and the fact that it feels rehearsed is due to the fact that no normal person would say 'i love you' to every stranger on the internets.

And in your opinion no scum posted so far?

Vivax

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August 04 2014 01:40 GMT

#299

On August 04 2014 10:35 goodkarma wrote:

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The thing is I haven't been sitting in a dark corner. I've been in here actively posting. That should speak volumes of my towniness. Good luck seeing me be this active in a scumgame.

I also don't joke around or trollpost all that much. I like to get into the thick of things, and make every post count for something.

I read Haru as scummy. I already mentioned he made an out of place effort to be null on WoS. And that's scummy. Not null.

What do you think of the way he came around to agreeing on his argument not being necessarily correct since he argued that you would be happy to roll town after a 3 month break.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 02:34 GMT

#312

On August 04 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Fuck I got town again.

wat

this doesnt make sense

Vivax

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August 04 2014 02:44 GMT

#316

On August 04 2014 11:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

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Why not?

cause you dont enjoy playing scum and we know that.

Vivax

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August 04 2014 15:20 GMT

#537

@ JAT:

I would say that you should have by now realized that me "defending" Haru wasn't intended as defending Haru but simply saying that I didn't agree with the arguments HF was using, which was that huge focus on the -1 +1 part. I preferred to focus on Haru saying he was null on WoS, so maybe he didn't really think that math through properly but just wanted to express in a weird way he was null on WoS.

So far three interpretations of that post of mine have been posted: I shut down discussion, I defend, and I simply express my point of view.

What it ultimately means is up to the intention of the observer in my regards, does he only try to find a bad interpretation, or does he consider the post from both perspective?

Vivax

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August 04 2014 15:20 GMT

#539

On August 05 2014 00:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think Marv is still buttmad that he's getting policy'd.
This means the policy must continue.

You remember who proposed it?

Vivax

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August 04 2014 15:26 GMT

#547

On August 05 2014 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:

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But you definitely did defend him by doing so, didn't you? And I don't neccessarily like this explanation better because I think what HF was doing there was pretty pro town.

No, I didn't defend him, I proposed a view of his play that wasn't focused on the -1 + 1 thingy. It's not the first time he uses stuff like that as a way to bring his point across and so far it never made sense to others. It simply isn't something I would use in my attempt to read him.

I defended him for myself maybe, if he believe what HF's says or what I say is ultimately up to them.