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On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?" Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer. So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff??? Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate?
Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1.
Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have.
Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum.
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On August 04 2014 13:40 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?" Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer. So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff??? On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate? Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum. So the people you believe are looking towny are scum? Does this mean the afk scummy lurkers are all town??? You're still not answering my question. With all your ideas of how to find scum, you must have a prime suspect of some kind in mind? Someone you're just dying to learn more about to assert with certainty if he/she's truly scum? Lack of experience is no excuse. It's not like themed games (excluding the caller ones) are so massively different that your experience there can't be applied here. On top of that, you've been in normal games. So why are you using this excuse in the first place?
You still sound angsty.
What? I said, I'm waiting to see if the lurkers are posting stiffly so that I can group them up with wave. No. 1 scum in 3 people = all others are town? How did you even come to this conclusion?
I still don't have a prime suspect. You probably have not played with me before but I don't do reads d1 (at least not the first half) until everyone turns up and I get to inspect and see how they are linked. Call it bad or w/e, this is how I roll.
Lack of experience isn't an excuse, but expectations will be my worry. I am expecting 1 out of 3 of these boogers to be skum and the remaining few skums to be in the rest.
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On August 04 2014 14:04 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 13:52 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 13:40 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?" Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer. So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff??? On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate? Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum. So the people you believe are looking towny are scum? Does this mean the afk scummy lurkers are all town??? You're still not answering my question. With all your ideas of how to find scum, you must have a prime suspect of some kind in mind? Someone you're just dying to learn more about to assert with certainty if he/she's truly scum? Lack of experience is no excuse. It's not like themed games (excluding the caller ones) are so massively different that your experience there can't be applied here. On top of that, you've been in normal games. So why are you using this excuse in the first place? You still sound angsty. What? I said, I'm waiting to see if the lurkers are posting stiffly so that I can group them up with wave. No. 1 scum in 3 people = all others are town? How did you even come to this conclusion? I still don't have a prime suspect. You probably have not played with me before but I don't do reads d1 (at least not the first half) until everyone turns up and I get to inspect and see how they are linked. Call it bad or w/e, this is how I roll. Lack of experience isn't an excuse, but expectations will be my worry. I am expecting 1 out of 3 of these boogers to be skum and the remaining few skums to be in the rest. So what you mean to say is you think most of your "towny-looking" people reads are town? Makes more sense than what you said before, though it's still a bit much for me to wrap my head around. Can you explain to me why you'd say you'd never been in normal games when I see World Cup Mini and at least one newbie game is in your played games list?
Because those games dont shout out 'WE HAS 0 POWERROLES LOLLOL' unlike this game, so I have special expectations.
Yes, if 2/3 are town = majority are town, its correct.
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On August 04 2014 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?" Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer. So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff??? On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate? Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum. Your logic baffles me. You're saying that because scum are so tryhard, they are more town than real town and so the towniest people are scum. You also allege that 'top towns should hide' which is astounding. The only power town has is their voice and vote, why would a *town* want to hide? What about this simpler, probably correct argument: 'hf/pooft/gk are town because they are actively leading discussion and finding out who is scum and who is town. Scum are among the lurkers who don't want to get noticed'.
uh
I meant scum are so tryhard, I would expect at least 1 of them to be hidden in the top town now so that you all would townread them. Just some skepticism from me.
I think this is more correct:
Hf/pooft/gk are probably town because they're leading discussion and finding out who is town and who is scum. Scum are also amongst the lurkers who don't want to get noticed.
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On August 04 2014 18:12 kushm4sta wrote:
I officially win the game if this list contains the scumteam:
hf
gg
jat
(marv)
(tehpoofter)
Whos gg?
Gobble?
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Eden do you think I'm scum now
Because if you think I am, I will refuse to argue with you and let you ML me. I literally will.
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On August 04 2014 18:48 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 18:45 HaruRH wrote:
Eden do you think I'm scum now
Because if you think I am, I will refuse to argue with you and let you ML me. I literally will. Wtf no wher'd that come from
Just in case you decided I was as stupid as what hf/wos painted me as
Marv is salty he isn't part of /towncircle Corp, subsidary of clauf, LLC
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Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts.
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On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target.
##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis
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On August 04 2014 19:05 kushm4sta wrote:
and why is hf looking town? Any argument you think he made that looked particularly townie?
I would like to hear this too. I still believe theres a scum between hf/gk/pooft.
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On August 04 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:
Haru, why is Poofter in that random list of 3 when he just randomly came in, spouted some random stuff, and left again? What made you feel like he's the other 2? Why did Poofter make it in that list as opposed to anyone else?
The 3 of them provided content for discussion. Pooft with his random reads, gk with his attacks and hf with his reads too. They steered the discussion into a serious one and like I said, I would not flinch if any of them 3 turned scum.
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On August 04 2014 22:36 Holyflare wrote:
do you disagree with my post then kush? he hasn't said anything specific about anyone all game and when he does talk about someone he doesn't mention WHAT they say at all
Probably because phone posting is the hardest shit on earth
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On August 04 2014 22:36 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 22:29 kushm4sta wrote:On August 04 2014 21:21 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:On August 04 2014 20:37 Holyflare wrote:Honestly though, Haru's filter is full of really really superficial stuff. "I think there's mafia in the people leading discussion" "i think this is how scum would be playing and this is how town should be playing" "poof/eden/hf came in with their words" On August 04 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:
Haru, why is Poofter in that random list of 3 when he just randomly came in, spouted some random stuff, and left again? What made you feel like he's the other 2? Why did Poofter make it in that list as opposed to anyone else? The 3 of them provided content for discussion. Pooft with his random reads, gk with his attacks and hf with his reads too. They steered the discussion into a serious one and like I said, I would not flinch if any of them 3 turned scum. it just seems really surface level and not like paying attention to the words people are saying back to this please went through haru's filter, not impressed. First there's quite a lot of defending wave from meta-scumread, where his argument is very awkward. Then there's his weird scumread on hf/gk/eden, which I still don't think makes sense, why would you suggest they are acting pro-town therefore are scum? By his logic we should lynch all the most vocal towns first to catch the 'hidden mafia', oh wait, nope they were all town, mafia is laughing to the bank. So what he has said is awkward, misleading, and hasn't actually said much of note. He's on my scumreads right now, but behind Artanis. First, let me say, your handle is extremely frustrating for me. Why gobbledydook instead of gobbleydgook? What is the significance of changing the g to a d? It's kind of driving me insane. Anyway, this is the post you are calling a "scumread on hf/gk/eden": On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Do you see the logic behind his thinking, even though you might disagree with it? Why are you treating it like it's such a big deal? It's not a scumread on any of those players, but rather a comment on the game setup/mafia theory. OK, I can accept that he's just mistaken. It's pretty bad logic though, the optimum mafia play is to play super townie anyway, so how does this game being vanilla make any difference?
Are you sure you read my filter? The answer can be found there.
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On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?" Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer. So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff??? On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate? Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum.
Hmmm gobble
An answer you're not satisfied with =/= no answer. I have never played a game requiring 4+ (this is alot for me) mislynches for scum to win. Therefore, I'll shift my focus to see if its possible that there is scum amongst the 3 people I have noticed. If everyone (like you) is townreading them, they're potentially going to go far. Its highly likely for scum to hide with them and ascend to later games off initial townreads.
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On August 04 2014 22:55 marvellosity wrote:
that's stupid though.
any townie not playing as townie as possible in order to prevent themselves being a NK is both obnoxiously stupid and a complete asswipe.
Yea, and thus all good townies will die in early days while scum celebrate the shitup of the thread.
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On August 04 2014 23:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 23:23 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 22:55 marvellosity wrote:
that's stupid though.
any townie not playing as townie as possible in order to prevent themselves being a NK is both obnoxiously stupid and a complete asswipe. Yea, and thus all good townies will die in early days while scum celebrate the shitup of the thread. The best way to get a good looking thread is if all the townies look really town so it's easy to find the mafia...
Problem is, what constitutes looking really townie? What heuristics do you use to judge?
For example, the way you judge town is probably going to be different from pooft, who plays tons of video mafia, and different from me, who plays tons of game mafia (sc2/wc3).
Also, what is really townie looking? To artanis, wos is his really townie guy despite many objections and scumreads on wos.
Explain to me, marv.
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On August 04 2014 23:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I actually kinda want to lynch Haru for that. If he really was scumhunting he'd have paid more attention and would've seen why I "super townread" WoS, but in the post he just made it's used more as a deflection. Coupled with how his reasoning has been very shallow, as hf mentioned it seems like he's not really interested in finding scum.
I just want to ask marv what he is townreading people off. That's all.
For scumhunting, wait for more posts from lurkers. This is how I roll.
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On August 04 2014 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Is this discussion supposed to lead somewhere? Wtf...
Its just a random question im posting to marv.
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Meh, I don't think I'm thinking correctly. I'm going to sleep and when I wake up, I'll start actual scumhunting that isn't aal meta reads.
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On August 04 2014 20:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
Wave's feels are always wrong. Or he's mafia. If nothing by chance he's likely to be right sometimes.
This?
Or else I'm blind. Show me the light.
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