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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On August 04 2014 15:25 WaveofShadow wrote: Eden who is my scumread? sigh gonna make me look huh Haru for... a weird defense of you, do I have that right? Some q's on that: - Are you not interested in exploring that weird defense further? - What's weird about his defense of you exactly? - What's scum-motivated about his defense of you exactly? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On August 04 2014 15:31 Eden1892 wrote: sigh gonna make me look huh Haru for... a weird defense of you, do I have that right? Some q's on that: - Are you not interested in exploring that weird defense further? - What's weird about his defense of you exactly? - What's scum-motivated about his defense of you exactly? I'm pretty sure all of that is explained in a basic form in the same post you just looked at. Tsk tsk Eden. I am disappoint. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Care to oblige me anyway? Particularly with the last question, which I don't think you explored in that explanation, despite your claim to the contrary | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Easy towncred when called out for defending everyone else's apparent scumread so he can say 'lulz why would I hard defend someone everyone else is attacking as scum' but more damning is the grabbing the quick out as soon as he could when attention trundle to him. It's pretty basic scared scumplay IMO, guy made a play and felt like it might have backfired/wants to play safe and get on everyone's good site now. See conversation with GK for example. Though if they were both scum that might be interesting too. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
So far I think Eden is probably town because he seems very comfortable and was one of the first to actually scumhunt (together with HF). I think I also somewhat like goodkarma because his play so far has been really different than in showdown. On August 04 2014 09:52 Vivax wrote: It's not mafiaish at all he just has a different opinion than you and not everyone with a different opinion is mafia. I don't like this post. How do you know it is not mafiaish? I am not saying Haru is scum but why do you feel the need to defend him like that this early? Also, Obi with a way less impressing start than in an unnamed game. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I fucking hate doing this on ipad | ||
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justanothertownie
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 04 2014 15:39 WaveofShadow wrote: Attention *turned to him I fucking hate doing this on ipad read what you wrote before pressing post? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On August 04 2014 15:38 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, first and foremost if marv doesn't show up with something relevant and lurks - we kill him. I think we can all agree on that one. So far I think Eden is probably town because he seems very comfortable and was one of the first to actually scumhunt (together with HF). I think I also somewhat like goodkarma because his play so far has been really different than in showdown. I don't like this post. How do you know it is not mafiaish? I am not saying Haru is scum but why do you feel the need to defend him like that this early? Also, Obi with a way less impressing start than in an unnamed game. Could say the same of you. I don't get the feeling vivax was defending him, rather simply expressing his pov. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On August 04 2014 15:38 WaveofShadow wrote: I'll accept the final point, though I don't believe you aren't asking just to ask, because you didn't even know who you were asking about when you did at first. Easy towncred when called out for defending everyone else's apparent scumread so he can say 'lulz why would I hard defend someone everyone else is attacking as scum' but more damning is the grabbing the quick out as soon as he could when attention trundle to him. It's pretty basic scared scumplay IMO, guy made a play and felt like it might have backfired/wants to play safe and get on everyone's good site now. See conversation with GK for example. Though if they were both scum that might be interesting too. no, I knew it was Haru; I phrased it like I didn't because I find people tend to be more eager to oblige me that way if they really believe someone is scum, since they want to convince me of their read and... what? he's not hard defending you. he said that your earlier stiff play could be the result of not playing for a while and that he reads you null for stiff play. furthermore this stance has been consistent, so how did he ever "grab an out"? my main problem right now is that this read seems really superficial to me. you have to assume haru is mafia for this to make sense, and it writes off the very reasonable alternative that he's town and (imo) the better explanation for his behavior. this wouldn't be a problem, as many players good and bad struggle with giving non-superficial reads sometimes, especially early in the game. but then you turn right around with this: On August 04 2014 15:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Could say the same of you. I don't get the feeling vivax was defending him, rather simply expressing his pov. which imo was a good job reading into vivax past the most obvious conclusion. so you're clearly capable of reading into a post and recognizing a superior but non-obvious conclusion... yet you're not doing this with haru? and then at the end there's this throwaway comment about haru and goodkarma being scum. do you intend to follow up on this at all? what makes you think they might both be scum and if it's so interesting why just leave it hanging? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 04 2014 15:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Could say the same of you. I don't get the feeling vivax was defending him, rather simply expressing his pov. Disagree. I think he has a point. Idk, I'm just lacking energy right now. Wave's posts are giving me weird/bad vibes but that's about it. I have a couple other reads but I need some time to give them, mostly because I need to figure out how to word them. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 04 2014 09:04 WaveofShadow wrote: LOL Artanis that made me laugh HF do you actually think that there is a good reason for anyone to call me confirmed town right now? And whether or not the answer is yes, why would scum artanis bother with that? You're better than that, my dear. What are you fishing for? This is enough for me to townread WoS d1. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 04 2014 16:11 kushm4sta wrote: This is enough for me to townread WoS d1. Heading off to bed, but I need a reason as to why you townread this post. | ||
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kushm4sta
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 04 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I thought we established that I do but I don't know what I'm doing. Where did we establish this? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
My issue is that I really don't like Wave's pacing/terminology when it comes to his posts. I don't know, call it a gut read or whatever, but the last time I played with Wave he was supertown and he was so breezy and carefree and towny and junk. I don't see any of that here. Wave feels really calculated in his posts, almost like he cares way too much. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Looking at this paragraph after I've typed it out makes me think that I'm reaching conspiracy-theory levels of reading into things. I'll sleep on it, it's almost 5 AM anyway. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Storm. I like being mafia but I don't know how to play scum well. I was hoping I'd roll it here, but wharvez. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 04 2014 17:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I have nothing against agreeing with it. My issue is that I really don't like Wave's pacing/terminology when it comes to his posts. I don't know, call it a gut read or whatever, but the last time I played with Wave he was supertown and he was so breezy and carefree and towny and junk. I don't see any of that here. Wave feels really calculated in his posts, almost like he cares way too much. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Looking at this paragraph after I've typed it out makes me think that I'm reaching conspiracy-theory levels of reading into things. I'll sleep on it, it's almost 5 AM anyway. tone reading wos based on 3 month stale meta seems like a terrible idea | ||
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