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On August 04 2014 09:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 09:26 HaruRH wrote:
Anyway, I am null on this read on wos.
His meta read could probably be thrown away after him not playing for months - I would certainly change a lot in 3 months.
However, that 'stiffness' in his long ass posts can definitely be seen. So its a +1 -1=0. This post does not make any sense whatsoever? If the meta read can be thrown away then it doesn't count at all. Then you agree about him being stiff but end up at null? If he hasn't played for 3 months why is he disappointed about rolling town then? Should be a good thing after a break.
On August 04 2014 09:51 Holyflare wrote:I can't get over how weird that haru post is actually. It's very mafiaish. The first sentence Show nested quote +His meta read could probably be thrown away after him not playing for months - I would certainly change a lot in 3 months. Is very generalised and doesn't address any of the point that i made at all. Wave HASN'T done it ever, it's not like it's a way to play mafia he's changed up it's a specific thing he hasn't done as town in the past like 10 games and he has done it as scum. How does 3 months = big change effect anything to do with anything? If wave hasn't played for 3 months what changes that this meta read would be affected by? Why would he suddenly be sad to roll town after 3 months and i just understand how this specific thing could even change.
This is what he meant by you excessively riding on the +1-1.
Maybe an exaggeration but hardly a LIE.
The truth is, you excessively rode on the fact that vivax lied about you excessively riding.
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On August 07 2014 07:27 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 07:24 gobbledydook wrote:
I just want to ask you all a question. What are you going to do after you mislynch me? Does it help you at all? uh. wtf lol preeeetty sure i've been trying to rally around killing holyflare instead of you
eden, they are both scum. they are definitely both scum.
GD, why wouldn't it help us at all? Do you want to expand on that please? Seems like you mean mislynching you is especially bad.
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Artanis/Onegu
Not gonna put a lot of effort into this one cause I can't really be bothered to.
On August 05 2014 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It's clear what my position is; Vivax, Poof, and Haru are all legitimate lynches for me. Anyone who doesn't know that isn't reading the thread. Why are you focussing on this unimportant issue rather than the actual reads?
K so let's look at the reasons behind each of these scumreads.
Vivax and poofter are scum because he doesn't know how they are reading him. Know who cares how people read them? scum.
Overall bad reasons with no specifics.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 05 2014 21:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 21:35 kushm4sta wrote:
what does that excuse even mean, artanis? You suddenly got retarded? You don't have time? You aren't motivated? I suddenly got retarded seems to be accurate. The lack of motivation follows from said realization. My opinions pretty much follow popular opinion other than on myself. Vivax' interaction with me felt weird, just answering me when I asked a question and when I returned to the thread he just mentioned how I come back when summoned. I have no idea what his read on me is which is strange when I'm one of the biggest cases in the game. Poof's return to the thread and his reads make no sense to me. I also have no idea how he thinks of me and have no idea how he hasn't commented on that.
Here's his case on haru. 3 neatly laid out reasons, all of them bad and easy for scum to make. The second is especially bad. Haru didn't realize artanis was joking with his wos townread so that makes him scum?
+ Show Spoiler +On August 05 2014 21:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd actually go with Haru. I'm not sure if he behaves this way as scum and that one post does give me pause, but (1) the fact that I'm 4th on his kill list yet the one with his vote, (2)the way he referred to my townread on Wave despite being very clear in why it was and (3)the stuff HF mentioned about his reads all coming from stuff outside the game rather than the game itself make me the most confident in him. Enumeration mine.
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Here is some later, slightly different reasoning behind the Haru lynch.
On August 06 2014 06:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:- Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
- List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
- Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
- In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)
1 "deflecting" lol. Later he expands with this:
1. Because it was phrased in a completely awkward way. It was basically dragged along, and then it turned out he hadn't even read it properly. Why would you bring up something that isn't even related when you haven't even read the context?
Awkward phrasing is a scummy reason to scumread someone.
2 and 3 are exactly the same point pretty much. Haru only wrote the list because he was bugged about it, and kind of as a joke because he said he hated lists. So that is a misrepresentation.
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On August 05 2014 21:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That would require my brain to work, which at the moment seems to not be the case.
This is not an excuse town artanis would make. It's not like he didn't have time to play either. Twice he mentioned how we are bad at banter. He had time to banter but didn't have time to scumhunt?
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im perfectly willing to listen to you and consider your points, GD. I don't know what makes you think I'm not.
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On August 05 2014 07:48 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
aite here's where i am
not killing ever: Eden1892
not killing today: marvellosity, Holyflare, kushm4sta, gobbledydook
don't want to kill today, but would: Tehpoofter, Vivax, HaruRH
indifferent to killing today: goodkarma, WaveofShadow, Artanis, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi
actively want to kill today:
the blankness in the last category is bothering me and probably why i feel scatterbrained atm, i made this list for my benefit and yours, let's work something out
there's five people in the "indifferent" category, someone help me pick one Ill do it for you
Goodkarma: came out early with tons of aggression, never relented and disappeared conveniently. Wos: bad start with stiff post, continued posting awkwardly that seemed rehearsed. Artanis: using meta reads as a basis of his reads (I really dont agree with doing this). Justanothertownie: I don't really feel much from him except that I don't agree with his scumreads at all. Obiwan: being useless In this game much? I don't see him voting anything meaningful, or doing any moves that included thinking. Overall, obi> wos> gk> artanis> jat in terms of who to lynch.
joke is the wrong word but basically the "ill do it for you" part.
Why would haru be more scummy if he didn't know Artanis was joking?
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fuck you for killing me n1 when all my reads were wrong
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not a good game for me. i got so confirmation biased jesus christ.
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