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Like the actual database that prp takes care of | ||
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On August 11 2014 13:00 Holyflare wrote: Also he doesn't look pressured to give reads or do anything but sheep who he thinks is right First of all when he sheeped today he way overjustified it, which I pointed out not too long ago. Secondly, sheeping is exactly what scum have been able to do freely all game, if you haven't noticed. Anyway I'll give Showdown a glance but it won't be right now. I'm gonna take a break. Eden, goes for you too, I'll read your examples a little later. If I'm not back in a little bit I will at least attempt to post some on lunch tomorrow or maybe phonepost (unlikely) if I get the chance. | ||
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On August 11 2014 13:16 goodkarma wrote: With this next lynch we're going to literally need unanimous townpile onto a scum wagon. The only way I really see that happening is /sheeping. Time would be well spent deciding how we're going to achieve a unanimous decision. Ideally a town leader and/or primary lynch target can be named by whoever dies tonight via a last minute before deadline ninjapost. Everyone with any chance of dying should make something like this... There's a few ways to implement this this is how I'd do it. Whatever we do tho we need to establish /towncircle and force sheeping. There's not room for error anymore. Goodnight and good luck. ^^^^^ SCUMPILE. | ||
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GK/Haru/HF right now. | ||
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Don't you worry. | ||
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On August 12 2014 10:46 Eden1892 wrote: COME ON MAN THIS A BIG DEAL WHERE YALL AT FUK Eden PLEASE stop spamming. Seriously. It makes your filter damn near impossible to read. Did you mean for it to be that way? | ||
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On August 12 2014 10:49 Eden1892 wrote: Nah. I'm just havin fun man. I got a lead! And I think it's actually pretty good. Don't you? Talk to me about it! I already noticed that. I need a little while to finish reading and post. | ||
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Fuck the team I'm taking this one at a time and I think I have a foolproof strategy. | ||
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I wrote out this big long thing about GK v Eden and none of it really works Huge long fucking story short, GK's return post telling us what to do was done in a HORRIBLE way despite the idea theoretically having some merit, and HF has planted a worm in my brain re: Eden who I have not questioned all game. Last time I never questioned someone all game they were HF who bussed someone right from D1 and won for his team. Cav remembers that game I bet. The question there becomes is Eden capable of monster-level scumplay. I feel like even though HF could be wrong here, one of Eden/GK is scum. I don't even know why I think that because I don't think it even has to be true. Like just so much terrible shit. Eden you are not confirmed town because you pushed HF before he died. The amount of effort you put in would be massively disproportionate to the reward you get of towncred by saying what you did, but it's not impossible; I've seen insane scum effort before. See austinmcc in PTP: Dr Who or HF in one of the previous Champions games (I don't know if Cultured mini counts for HF because he didn't have to put in that much effort to win imo, he just played insanely ballsy). If GK doesn't switch his vote at any point today and doesn't listen to reason he essentially forces our hand by making us all vote for him or Eden. I don't know what kind of scum OR townplay that is to be truly honest---the anger and ridiculousness feels more like town GK but the other times I've seen him get frustrated like this and martyr he put in WAY more effort than this pre- and post-breakdown. 'I'ma sheep this towny' is not effort. Playing to his meta maybe? Fucking HF why couldn't you have actually given me reasons for finding Eden scummy or not been a dick about keeping things secret last night? | ||
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Maybe this does point to Haru scum? | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:37 goodkarma wrote: You do realize that Eden's pretty tryhard as scum too right? Like that's a super-stupid metric. The guy can make ridiculously long and pointless posts as scum. Can post for pages and pages. Look at his scumgame filter. I'm sheeping HF and all town should too. Especially compelling reason: I'm town so if you don't we're sure to lose. Where's his scumgame. Put in some fucking EFFORT GK if you don't want this to be Les Mafia all over again | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:40 goodkarma wrote: It already is Les Mafia. Only difference is I gave you guys a method to consolidate this time, and you couldn't be fucking bothered to consider it. No, you gave us an ultimatum based on fucking NOTHING. All people have done this game is sheep townies on stupid shit, and look where it has gotten us. HF's one fucking line on Eden is no exception. If you force the town to policy lynch you then the game is on YOUR head, no matter how self-righteous you get about this. Back the fuck off, and use your brain. | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:41 goodkarma wrote: It's in the TL Database. You know where it is you already brought it up once this game. LOL I took a fucking 1 min glimpse at that game and Eden already looks townier in this one for it. Find me even CLOSE to the percentage of tryhard posts in that game versus this one. Eden in this game is WAY less uptight. It's pretty obvious actually. I can't tell if I want to vote you now or just assume you're both town and move on to Haru. | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:43 goodkarma wrote: If you give me some super-compelling case that person X is scum of course I'll consider it. To be honest tho I have way more faith in HF than anyone still in the game. Then if you have faith in HF WHY AREN'T YOU VOTING HARU LIKE HE FUCKING ASKED And for that matter why didn't you respond when called out about this earlier? | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:46 Eden1892 wrote: The stronger argument for my innocence isn't merely that the effort:payout doesn't make sense, it's the opportunity cost on top of it. As scum I could have not changed anything up and been similarly unquestioned without attracting Holyflare's ire. Considering that's (apparently?) the only reason that you're starting to mull it over now, I would submit that the strategy is plainly suboptimal. You're right that I'm not "confirmed" town but I really do think if I were in your shoes I would be hardcore townreading me and riding that to the end at this point. And considering Holyflare didn't scumread me at all before the night phase I think we can at least divine that his scumread on me comes from something I did during the night. Which is... push on him, mainly. Maybe that's it? It's my main theory at the moment, although I have a fun pet theory I just came up with: This is also an incredibly convenient explanation for me but it's something not beyond Holyflare's capacity and supported by his actions at the end when he finally did decide to post: What if Holyflare's "scumread" on me is fake? Notice how he spent the entirety of EoN arguing with Haru and trying to make some final arguments for him being scum, then he says "kill Haru tomorrow 100%." and then throws in a last-second "kill Eden  ". The context makes it pretty clear that Haru was his primary scumread, not me. Holyflare has also been intermittently pushing Haru the whole game, and until that post (from what I recall) never outright scumread me. He wanted to on a couple of earlier occasions where I was on his case with kush, but he never did, the way he addressed me was clearly as though I were a townie. I'll go dig up the post(s) that gave me that impression if needed (but not right now leaving for trivia).Might end up x-posting but what are your thoughts on goodkarma ignoring Holyflare's actual final wishes to vote for me? And the case he made in trying to double down on it? The bolded is what I assumed he was doing last night and told him to fucking stop, but then why throw it out right before he dies? That is not something you troll town with. Surely you realize that. | ||
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Guy has done absolutely dick all the entire game. I don't even remember what my case on him D1 said but I bet it still stands. Marv's townread of him was shit. He had ONE period where his posts looked super towny at some point yesterday, but then he fucked off and did nothing again. GK, you don't get off the hook here. First of all I know I told you to back down, but now that you are I've decided it looks shitty to me. On August 12 2014 11:53 goodkarma wrote: Oh right before that post my bad. Kinda contradictory. Are you honestly telling me you didn't see that? Second of all, @Wave, the only remotely reasonable guy in thread: blatant buddying. Not in the mood to be buddied right now since I can't even trust Eden anymore. And I just remembered, what about JAT? What has that guy done the entire game? Too many shitty looking people. Even the ones who have decent reason to be town like GD. | ||
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Should have lynched this guy D1. | ||
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