IV Titanic Mafia: It Has Been a Privilege

On July 23 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos it has been a while. I am town this game. You must be so happy.

On July 23 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote:


to bad he didn't post in his normal way here </3

I guess can't let a martyr live anyway lol

On July 23 2014 05:34 Vivax wrote:




Gut wise I don't like these entrances.

On July 23 2014 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
/confirm

Xatalos why did you write "sigh" after your vote?

On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote:
The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this:



If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both.

##Vote: Xatalos

On July 23 2014 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And what does that have to do with the vote?

On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:

What does this mean?

On July 23 2014 06:18 Chopin Liszt wrote:

Interesting.

Why don't you give us a list of acceptable day 1 lynches then, friend?

On July 23 2014 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that's not true Xatalos.
Anyways the thread is kinda dumb atm and i am sleepy so sleepy time.

On July 23 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote:
I think you are out of your mind if you think we had the most awkward conversation ever. I said "how happy are you I am town". How am I here being awkward?

Xatalos his answer might have been odd. But how can you say that even I am scummy? What kind of insane connection is that CR? Why isn't Xatalos scummy that can't reply to my awesome trick question???

Hmmmm?

On July 23 2014 06:32 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Have you been lynched on Day 1 as either town or mafia before Xatalos?

On July 23 2014 06:38 Chairman Ray wrote:


Your side of the conversation was fine, but that's to be expected of you whether you are scum or not. Xatalos was not fine. He pocketed you for the weirdest reason at the weirdest time. I'm leaning towards scum pocketing scum rather than scum pocketing town.

On July 23 2014 06:19 Koshi wrote:

what? I meant I am town and you always read me town while I am always scum and you fail horrible and I laugh hard.

On July 23 2014 18:45 Koshi wrote:

All these people are already bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
ObiWanShinobi
Navillus
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred

On July 23 2014 18:52 Koshi wrote:

Totes town.

On July 23 2014 18:54 HaruRH wrote:


How about you answer my case on you instead of trying to buddy

On July 23 2014 18:54 Navillus wrote:
Hey xatalos, nice to see you also think that palmer's analysis is enough and you don't need to contribute, so what do you think about Kush's defenses of you and what do you think of Obiwan?

On July 23 2014 19:34 kushm4sta wrote:

haven't caught up yet but i saw this.
worst read ever wtf vivax

On July 23 2014 19:53 Chopin Liszt wrote:
I laugh everytime someone says that someone defending them and being correct when nobody else is makes them probably towny when it should give you the opposite reaction ~_~


Anyway, I think navillus has potential and I'd rather keep him around over the likes of obi/teem/vivax. Vivax probably strongest mafia read for not giving a shit like usual mafia vivax, time will tell in the day though.

Teem makes weird ass posts that are total mafia traits posts:





he asks a lot of people about damd but then never follows up with why, never posts saying that damd is probably mafia because of x,y,z and then later only follows up when asked and responds with almost nothing about the person he was most curious about



Then after, still continues with the damd questions



+ free town reads on palmar/kush etc based on very little

##unvote
##vote teemursu

On July 23 2014 20:17 Vivax wrote:


Nope, it's a spot on case about a guy trying to look tryhard but showing an inherent lack of interests into topics he should have a focus on, and I get the same feeling, especially from that post.
It's more like he talks about anything that is potentially worth talking about, not just what matters.

I have yet to see him fight back against the bullshit reads I gave about his alleged people of interest.

On July 23 2014 20:29 Vivax wrote:


Does it make you want to lynch navi less.

On July 23 2014 20:32 Vivax wrote:


So you don't feel the reasons Palmar gave are strong enough to warrant a lynch on their own regardless of who's agreeing with them to head for that lynch?

On July 23 2014 20:43 Vivax wrote:




Looks to me like you felt it's conclusive enough so that you would add your own reasons on top of it before throwing it away cause one guy on it plays to his scum meta in your unverified opinion.

On July 23 2014 20:46 Koshi wrote:

What the fuck do you expect that early? At least he is doing something.

In how many games is scum giving their opinion on literally everybody and anything that happens in the game as only one in the thread?


Palmar / Vivax are probably scum this game.

On July 23 2014 23:38 Koshi wrote:

LoL
As if scum would give up in this setup. Are you for real?
What kind of dumb logic is this Xatalos?

On July 23 2014 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
never seen kushmasta this town.

Damdred makes a terrible post on Xatalos (because the post lacks any conclusion and/or follow up). Cava calls the post good (apparently because he has a townread on damdred he "guesses"). Haru says Xatalos is buddying and apparently that's scummy? Well it's not. Then Cava says he doesn't want to pick a side regarding Xatalos. But in fact he kinda has (see townread on damdred).

CR has the best approach to Xatalos situation. It makes sense although i don't know if it makres Xatalos mafia but regardless it makes sense. All other shit on Xatalos is crap and idk why anyone thinks it's any good..

Navillus post badbad.
##vote: Navillus

Teemursu why are you leaning scum on Xatalos?

Palmar town. Shopping List is right. Teemursu gave a strange weak defence on Xatalos after calling him probably scum. Koshi what the fuck are you doing - except for the Vivax stuff?
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Cava could also be mafia, and damdred, and Haru. ugh.. that's too stupid.

but Koshi for reals what the fuck?

On July 23 2014 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos what about vivax' posting is reasonably constructive?
can you gimme some posts that fall into the category you are describing?

On July 23 2014 20:55 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely.

tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing.

On July 23 2014 23:03 Vivax wrote:
Don't think Obi is scum for what it's worth. He is a very nervous/demoralized mafia player, at least in his past games. Don't see it fitting for him to throw around votes and joke and be generally rather carefree if he was scum, like when he came out begging for a townread jokingly.

On July 23 2014 23:10 Vivax wrote:
I simply don't see how any town in his right mind could disagree with what Palmar said about navi. It just hits the spot, navi himself agrees that the post looks bad, hence why it's utterly unwarranted that Koshi would townread him so easily for the reasons he gave and refused to elaborate on.

On July 23 2014 23:45 Koshi wrote:

Vivax can care. We seen it in the last Storm mafia 2. Or when he replaced into some game as well. Anyway. Don't be fooled.

On July 24 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so after those good posts Vivax made you have been here in thread. Why didn't you unvote then and only after i call you out on your contradiction..

On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.

On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases.

damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer.

Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck.

Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck.

Teemu called you scummy for who knows why.

Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.

On July 24 2014 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Exactly who and why?

On July 24 2014 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey Xatalos quick question - are you using mafia tools this game?

On July 24 2014 02:10 kushm4sta wrote:
that is a kickass name

On July 24 2014 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't like this post for multiple reasons.

On July 24 2014 02:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Oof. Caught up with a little bit of skimming



I do believe that basing my scumread in a single list post is weak. But I think that your follow up was also scum because, as people said before, you don't seem like to scum hunt at any point of the game. This, summed up with the problems I noticed on your post, makes my scumread at you.

I don't have a good idea of which players, as town could've brought another case and scum tried to hop on the wagon to disrupt attention, or mafia could've started it and townies jumped on. But if I had to guess, I'd guess shinobi is mafia for saying "god, no discussion" when I added a case on your list post (which could be read as a good case or bad case, whatever - it was at least a discussion starter). Even after that, he tried to change the focus to discuss a policy lynch on Chopin. Lol. Let's discuss policies lynch but ignore a case? Nope.

On July 24 2014 02:37 Vivax wrote:
I found GB's big post pretty townie cause he tries really hard to get a point across he seems to find tough to bring across, and in the process of reading it you kinda get that aha-feeling for all he found scummy about Xata, and can understand it and realize that it's probably what he really thinks

This is directed at you, Xata.

On July 24 2014 02:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

First two sentences are totally wrong and if Xatalos thinks so he needs to justify it which he has not done.
Why can't mafia change atttention out of mafia? I mean obviously, regardless of Xatalos' alignment he "reads himself" as town and says so, but that's not any proof of what ACTUALLY happened.
Where is the conf bias?
Confidence is not a scumtell unless he explains why.

On July 24 2014 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let's lynch all the people who said VA is Xatalos' scumread?
jjust because that was so bad.

Palmar you in?

On July 24 2014 03:00 GlowingBear wrote:


I've just went through your filter. You were saying that when Vivax is scum he mostly lurks. You hesitate on voting him but after people start saying you're too passive you vote for him. Ben Vivax start posting a little bit more and BOOM you Unvote him. Then you jump on Navi wagon, not reeeeally expressing a strong read.

It was funny because when I saw you vote on Vivax I thought "it means nothing, he may be voting just to show 'scum hunt'. He could just Unvote and change focus to an existing wagon.". Less than one page you do this.

And the funny thing is: as an example of scum hunting, you bring your vote on Vivax instead of your vote on Navi, which confirms what I thought of you.

I am pretty certain I am sustaining my vote on you with this other evidence you provided me. If nothing really big happens, I won't change my vote and I invite townies to read my posts against you to see if they agree with me and jump on the wagon.

It also seems that you and Vivax are distancing from each other; which I find suspicious but I'll have to take a better look later.

On July 24 2014 07:42 HaruRH wrote:


You can still do it the next game when you roll town

On July 24 2014 08:00 HaruRH wrote:


What makes you think that obi has nothing particularly scummy outside of the possibility that you are defending your scumpartner and you're waiting for the moment to bus him?

On July 24 2014 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
xatalos go?

On July 24 2014 08:33 kushm4sta wrote:

it was actually your question of what made it so obvious that made me look through his filter which changed my mind <3

On July 24 2014 08:47 Chairman Ray wrote:


Why are you curious about Koshi?

On July 24 2014 08:48 kushm4sta wrote:


well mostly I couldn't townread him immediately, which I was able to do in the last two towngames I played with him.
I didn't see any townie content in his early posts. I thought his overreaction was scummy. But I looked at his last towngame and he also overreacted when someone called him scum. Whereas he doesn't overreact when he's actually scum.

On July 24 2014 09:00 Chairman Ray wrote:


I already said this before, but there's an associative tell between you and Koshi which I can't ignore. Doesn't do much good before you flip.

On July 24 2014 09:03 kushm4sta wrote:


xatalos i didn't exactly mean to hide it. it's more like I didn't feel like actually looking through his filter and compiling the reasons.

not sure in either of those other reads. chopin one came from chopin attacking batsnacks. vivax one came from vivax wanting to lynch people I think are town. Also some very rough PoE. yes those reads are shit lol. That's why I made a shitty list instead of actually writing about them. Kind of like you did.

On July 24 2014 09:10 Chairman Ray wrote:


That's not exactly my read on you and Koshi, and furthermore it's pointless to discuss now.

Why are you interested in my other reads?

On July 23 2014 10:53 Damdred wrote:
Heres my thoughts about Xatalos right now, hes just seems a bit odd to me right now.



Enters thread with an odd opening no sign of real communication.


Follows it up by defending himself and glowing, she might be town but he definitely is cool.



But if someone looks and feels scummy and plays great scum in your mind why would you want to keep them around? Isn't it better if you honest think they are scum to take them out fast and not risk them swaying people against you? Bit weird talking about yourself their as well, I know you think yourself an asset but why even include the thing about the scum their?



This feels weird to trying to paint yourself as town by saying that you play scum one way and town another....whos to say that you don't change it up from time to time to make yourself look town?

Overall I get a really odd vibe from Xatalos posts, and as others have posted he has singled out a couple of low fruit even though it hurts my pride. I'd like him to answer some before I change votes.



Also why Haru has seemed to be scum hunting in his posts so far.

On July 24 2014 18:33 Chopin Liszt wrote:
It's definitely tempting to kill Xatalos just for the amusement of the "I'm a bad d1 lynch" thing. I'm not really sure why he's supposed to be mafia though. CR's case was too long, skipped it.

batsnacks looks less horrendous than yesterday. Maybe. I am missing a lurking mafia somewhere if it's not him, for sure.

On July 24 2014 18:42 Vivax wrote:


Wouldn't call batsnacks a lurker, and Vayne has to be vigged, Palmar is readable to some extent. Glowbear I don't think is scum atm.

On July 24 2014 18:46 Navillus wrote:


re: batsnacks I see some jokes, a poem, a sheeped vote, some questions and some discussion that's not even close to being about his reads or thoughts on people. I'd invite you to reread his filter because I literally cannot find anything I'd call scumhunting there since xata's list post.

On July 24 2014 18:54 Palmar wrote:
I didn't say damdred was scum. Just navillus

On July 24 2014 18:57 Palmar wrote:

To produce cheap correct content. Idk. Maybe dude is scum too. But navillus is mafia

On July 24 2014 18:32 Xatalos wrote:
I'd be fine with either of those two getting lynched today really. It's a decent chance of hitting scum in both cases and nothing lost if the lynch is a mistake.

On July 24 2014 19:53 Koshi wrote:
I got to be honest here, I am a bit underwhelmed by your play this game Xatalos. How can somebody like you have so many votes on you?

On July 24 2014 20:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't like koshi's post at all. They are all rubbish.
CR's case on Xatalos is full of fluff. Who was the guy that just said "oh what a good case!"? Remember reading it somewhere but don't remember who.
Haru that's not a scum slip and you know that <3
Teemu, your posts were ok when skimming through your filter. I'm just cautious with you because they were also okay when you were mafia.

If Xatalos isn't mafia I'd totally focus koshi and CR

On July 24 2014 20:13 batsnacks wrote:


Who should I vote if not you? Maybe I'll listen to you.

On July 24 2014 20:14 Koshi wrote:

Xatalos. This looks kinda bad:

You start with looking people at people who are voting you. But out of fucking nowhere you dig up an insane old case from HaruRH (who isn't voting you) and decide he is the most scummy person for making this case and you vote him.



And by accident Damdred is also the guy that is getting momentum with Chopin and Vivax voting for him.



Kinda coincidental. No?

On July 24 2014 20:17 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos,

another question:

Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks

Out of all these people you only have issues with Batsnacks? I am looking at those names and I am pretty sure I don't have a clue on 4 of them.

And you are the one claiming having no grip on this game. While I already found 1 scum and 7 townreads.

On July 24 2014 20:22 GlowingBear wrote:


I see a damdred wagon without a damdred case. What is the argument for lynching him? If there is not a single discussion, I think the chances aren't big.

@Xatalos: what do you think of lynching koshi?

On July 24 2014 20:26 Vivax wrote:
Xata how can you feel CR's push seems genuine it gives me a different impression.
If it were a push on me based on his reasons I wouldn't be as chill as you are.



The reason is simple. His posts read like he cares, he posted a case on Xatalos without according followup, he promised stuff he didn't deilver, he doesn't post much at all.

People like him are more likely to be scum over people like VA who openly look bad instead of hiding behind townie sounding posts.

On July 24 2014 20:27 Koshi wrote:



Why do they look good if you have 0 clues on them.

On July 24 2014 20:31 Vivax wrote:


What would be an acceptable reason for you to scumread Koshi then, acting stupid not D1, but D2?

On July 24 2014 20:37 Vivax wrote:


Go into detail if you can. Show us your thought process while you quote one of the posts that made you get that idea. It's your head on the line so it's in your best interest, and also in mine to find out what you are.

On July 24 2014 09:00 Chairman Ray wrote:


I already said this before, but there's an associative tell between you and Koshi which I can't ignore. Doesn't do much good before you flip.

On July 24 2014 20:40 GlowingBear wrote:


Going to look damdred's filter. Tbh I haven't seem anything really wrong with him. I remember observing a game where he was town and got mislynched by acting like that. But I'll check what you're saying.

What about Rayn? He is voting you and went to full lurking. Do you think he is a better lynch?

I'm reaching my university and 3G here doesn't work well

On July 24 2014 20:41 Vivax wrote:


If he bleeds his thought process in this game I'm sure you can tell me why exactly he's reading me as scum cause all I saw him doing was yelling and not explaining.

On July 24 2014 20:43 Koshi wrote:


You say the case from CR is pretty genuine, why can't batsnacks not believe in the case?

and tbh, that CR case on you looked pretty good. I mean, the joke in the start was enough to vote you if Vivax wasn't so damn scummy the entire game.

On July 24 2014 21:02 Koshi wrote:

Bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
Navillus
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred
Palmar
VayneAuthority
raynpelikoneet
GlowingBear

Probably town but what can I do:
Xatalos

Special mention:
Chairman Ray

Really good lynches for D1:
Vivax
ObiWanShinobi
Chopin Liszt

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Town MVP after game = thx.
I have a bad feeling Kush also has this list. Hmm. Crazy.

On July 24 2014 21:23 Xatalos wrote:
Chopin, you think batsnacks is a better lynch than Damdred?

On July 24 2014 21:28 HaruRH wrote:
And xatalos is the scummer.

On July 24 2014 21:36 Teemursu wrote:


Could you, please? I feel like you're given all the chance to prove you're town and fight the lynch, but instead you're going down like you've accepted it already. Your whole filter is just random fluff with no direction. It's such a bore to try to read it.

On July 24 2014 22:32 Chopin Liszt wrote:

how?

On July 24 2014 22:33 Chopin Liszt wrote:

If you die now then there is no more information.

On July 24 2014 22:41 Chopin Liszt wrote:
I hope Damdred isn't going to just drop that -> leave.

On July 24 2014 22:51 Damdred wrote:


Then why ignore the mass posts earlier in the thread against you? And why only bring them up when you are poked and prodded? Honestly its dumb, if you think they are such shit posts then you should of totally decimated the posts and deconstructed them and at least replied to it.

On July 23 2014 10:53 Damdred wrote:
Heres my thoughts about Xatalos right now, hes just seems a bit odd to me right now.



Enters thread with an odd opening no sign of real communication.

This doesn't say anything about my alignment.



Follows it up by defending himself and glowing, she might be town but he definitely is cool.

I didn't even really defend myself there, I just voiced my opinion that I could understand his gut reaction but it didn't really say much of anything about anything.



But if someone looks and feels scummy and plays great scum in your mind why would you want to keep them around? Isn't it better if you honest think they are scum to take them out fast and not risk them swaying people against you? Bit weird talking about yourself their as well, I know you think yourself an asset but why even include the thing about the scum their?

Naturally I would lynch Koshi if he was actually really scummy. It's just that him being a bit suspicious D1 is supposed to be his town meta, so that's not a good basis to lynch him. "Bit weird" isn't really an accusation anyway, but I'll just say that he was talking about lynching me+Koshi so I talked about me+Koshi. What's even weird about that?



This feels weird to trying to paint yourself as town by saying that you play scum one way and town another....whos to say that you don't change it up from time to time to make yourself look town?

The point of meta is that it's not so easy to change your behaviour at will. Otherwise it'd be impossible to ever catch scum.

Overall I get a really odd vibe from Xatalos posts, and as others have posted he has singled out a couple of low fruit even though it hurts my pride. I'd like him to answer some before I change votes.

Being a low hanging fruit doesn't make you town and it's often a good choice not to lynch very active posters for D1. Naturally the most scummy player should be lynched, but if it's an "equal" choice between an active and inactive player, the more active player should be spared IMO. In addition, activity is usually townish in itself.



Also why Haru has seemed to be scum hunting in his posts so far.

On July 24 2014 23:16 kushm4sta wrote:
what the fuck are you guys doing! xatalos is obv town. obiwan is also town.

On July 24 2014 23:17 Koshi wrote:

Tell us your role.

On July 24 2014 23:21 Koshi wrote:

Xatalos. Tell us your fucking role. I am 100% town and I am 100% certain this is the best way to play this atm.

On July 24 2014 23:28 kushm4sta wrote:
##unvote
##vote xatalos
if you dont claim now you get lynched.

On July 24 2014 23:34 kushm4sta wrote:
xatalos I hate when people wait till the last second to claim and put everybody in a fucking panic. it's so anti town and stressful and annoying. Claim immediately or I am going to leave the thread with my vote on you and feel good about it even though I think you're town.
If you claim I will consider your claim and I will probably try to get someone else lynched.

On July 24 2014 23:48 Vivax wrote:


What is this bullshit, why would scum shoot you by fooling them into thinking that you have an extra life.

On July 24 2014 23:51 Vivax wrote:


Ok, but the reasoning you used up there tells me another story.
You literally said you wanted to bait scum into shooting you by claiming vet.

You realize how that looks to me right?

On July 25 2014 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?????

Koshi was OBVIOUSLY fishing for blue!!!
Guys, use your brains! Xatalos clearly wasn't blue, he would've claimed earlier.
It is ok to believe he was soft claiming but it is NOT okay to pressure vote him so he claims! Do you really can't see the implications here? To avoid getting lynched, Xatalos could've probably fake claimed under the pressure votes. A blue would see this and hard push against Xatalos, maybe even cc. Mafia gets a mislynch and get to know who is the real blue.

MY GOD THIS IS NOT WIFOM THIS IS SIMPLE LOGIC!!!!

On July 25 2014 00:53 Koshi wrote:

TOWN

BECAUSE IF YOU DARE TO SAY THIS AS MAFIA YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF

On July 25 2014 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I wasn't gonna vote for you.
As far as i got i would have voted for GlowingBear, damdred or Navillus.

On July 25 2014 16:27 Chairman Ray wrote:


Not yet

On July 25 2014 01:54 Teemursu wrote:


I live in Espoo, so basically yeah. Sounds cool!

On July 25 2014 08:37 Koshi wrote:

Like this list is so fucking gold it is scary.

And I had to work with the shitters D1 like Palmar/rayn/VA. GB also dumped some retardation in the thread endgame but what can I do?

Vivax has lied this game so many times. It is scary. And he says so much dumb shit.
Obiwan is his cocky self and refuses to solve this game. Somewhere he changed his play and became this new thing. Out of all people he is probably the best plynch and that means a lot if you have the D1 shitters like Palmar/rayn/VA.
Xatalos has done nothing this game, had most of the votes on him the entire game and then 3h before the lynch. (less because hosts decided to fuck us in the ass) to start softclaiming blue and do nothing else. Then 2 hours before the lynch he claims veteran because he wants to get shot by scum. And then a bit later he claims he was actually just a VT. And in the 3 hours before the lynch he did absolutely nothing except vote Navillus because WHO THE FUCK KNOWS.
Chopin Liszt Isn't off this list till he solves the game. Which is how we always approach marv. Which is why we can talk to him as if he is town. Because he most likely is. Unless he doesn't solve the game. This time he has a retardation handicap. Which will make it really hard for him to be taken serious if he survives the night.


But who do we lynch?

NAVILLUS. WHO COULDN'T be more town if he tried.

LIKE WHERE ARE THE CASES ON NAVILLUS? READ HIS FUCKING FILTER. SO FUCKING TOWN EXCEPT ONE POST. WHICH IS THE ONLY POST ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT.

On July 25 2014 19:51 Vivax wrote:


Why do I get the feeling your heart raced and you held your breath until turning blue before saying this with a loud expiration.

On July 25 2014 00:18 batsnacks wrote:
Ya'll really hourly vote nav... He posted so many words...

On July 25 2014 00:19 batsnacks wrote:
***shouldnt vote nav

This is my last phone post too difficult

On July 25 2014 12:04 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah I'm not unhappy with the lynch. I don't really understand why people are freaking out. It could have been way worse than a VT.

On July 25 2014 20:32 Vivax wrote:


Would Damdred be your lynch of choice tomorrow or do you think that somebody else is scummier.

On July 25 2014 20:35 Vivax wrote:


Assume for a moment that ObiWan can be town, too. Why would scum want to lynch him over Navi when either choice doesn't hurt them at all.

On July 25 2014 20:43 Vivax wrote:


Who of the rest is scum then.

On July 25 2014 20:52 Vivax wrote:


Again, even if he was town he wouldn't be the best choice, or fuck knows what scum chooses to do. Yes, they wouldn't vote him if he was scum, they also wouldn't vote him if he was a shitty looking townie.

Just...use other arguments and not this for Obi being scum please.

On July 25 2014 21:01 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Maybe. I don't care so much anymore what Xatalos does though.

Chopin

On July 25 2014 21:04 Chopin Liszt wrote:

I didn't mean it how you are interpreting it.

Chopin

On July 25 2014 21:19 Vivax wrote:
It's like he gets an achievement for lynching me, that's the feeling I get.

On August 15 2013 22:40 Koshi wrote:

Mocsta is confirmed scum.

Where did you lose the Risen read?

On July 25 2014 22:20 Vivax wrote:


In case I'm not around in 3 hours the game will be in your hands, unless you get killed too, and then it's not up to me if people keep getting fooled.