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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 22:27 GMT
#1301
@palmar you already like my lynch but if you want to like it and me more read dis:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461355-team-melee-mini-mafia-v-newbies-and-vets?page=60#1194
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 22:27 GMT
#1302
Timeline of events:

6:30 Eden write this case on sqrt-1:

On July 12 2014 06:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:16 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH

On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:

Team D-

I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).

Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.

What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.

Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .

So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.

Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.

Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.

Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*

Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons

Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though

Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read

Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town


So that leaves me with

Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch


Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus

Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet

*Mostly afk


Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post.
Some of these town reads are kind of fishy.
Ex:

Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Not my cup of tea.
Or this one

I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.
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still catching up but lynch this guy. rofl.

"Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post."
"I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated."

you're joking right
1. townies don't "cast doubt" on posts. if they think posts are bad or scummy they question them and press further or just outright build a case. if they think it's good they don't bother addressing them unless they need to in order to steer discussion in the desired direction. none of these describe sqrt's post, he says this is the best post but then equivocates on the poster's town status and doesn't dig into it further.
2. how is it the best post if the reads seem fabricated lmao that makes no sense
[/i][/i]

6:38 Eden confirms his vote on sqrt

On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote:
ok i'm on page 40

everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste

bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town

we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america

someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated


Meanwhile, Robik is making a post, where point 4 calls sqrt-1 scum.

On July 12 2014 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 12 2014 06:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Hi Koshi,

I think we should IML marv before he gets a chance to really take control of town and give good insight. Thoughts?

People are scumreading marv? Damn. This will be epic. Need to catch up.

I don't think so. I think I just like the idea of getting rid of potentially useful players.

Now that I'm done being an annoying dick, I'm leaving work soon but would love to get your opinions on 1) my annoying posts -- all of them 2) my teammate's reads 3) plammmmmar and his teammate 4) the scum formerly known as mathematical equation i.


6:39, Robik sees Eden's post and makes the remark that we just crossposted.
On July 12 2014 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote:
ok i'm on page 40

everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste

bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town

we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america

someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated

Do you like crossposting with me?



6:48 OK makes a post SUMMARIZING WHAT EDEN SAID.
On July 12 2014 06:48 OnceKing wrote:
from sqrt's post that eden quoted:

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.


hahahahaha


If that's not backpacking, I don't know what is.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 12 2014 22:27 GMT
#1303
On July 13 2014 07:27 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 07:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 13 2014 07:23 Palmar wrote:
On July 13 2014 07:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 13 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it?

none

as with every town lynch ever


Wrong. You can see who pushed hardest. You can see who defended hardest.

You can also see who just sheeped.

So much info gained.



And then you have to wifom what all that info means ninjabunnies. You get nothing out of the alignment of the player who flips as town, what you have to do is look at how people pushed shit.


Didn't I just say that?


No, you said look at what people do. Who pushed hard? Who defended? Who sheeped? My point is you have to look at how they do it, how did the guy pushing push, how did the guy defending defend, how did the guy sheeping sheep.


That was implied. Sorry if I didn't make it clear.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:27 GMT
#1304
palmar please describe more in depth what you're saying about marvderg, and read nb's posts about chairman koshi/offer input on that

right now i have a few town reads i'm pretty confident in, slamroot i'm pretty sure is scum and only a few more holes to fill
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:29 GMT
#1305
On July 13 2014 07:27 IAmRobik wrote:
Timeline of events:

6:30 Eden write this case on sqrt-1:

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:30 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:16 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH

On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:

Team D-

I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).

Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.

What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.

Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .

So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.

Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.

Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.

Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*

Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons

Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though

Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read

Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town


So that leaves me with

Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch


Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus

Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet

*Mostly afk


Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post.
Some of these town reads are kind of fishy.
Ex:

Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Not my cup of tea.
Or this one

I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.
[image loading]

still catching up but lynch this guy. rofl.

"Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post."
"I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated."

you're joking right
1. townies don't "cast doubt" on posts. if they think posts are bad or scummy they question them and press further or just outright build a case. if they think it's good they don't bother addressing them unless they need to in order to steer discussion in the desired direction. none of these describe sqrt's post, he says this is the best post but then equivocates on the poster's town status and doesn't dig into it further.
2. how is it the best post if the reads seem fabricated lmao that makes no sense


6:38 Eden confirms his vote on sqrt

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote:
ok i'm on page 40

everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste

bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town

we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america

someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated


Meanwhile, Robik is making a post, where point 4 calls sqrt-1 scum.

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 06:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 12 2014 06:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Hi Koshi,

I think we should IML marv before he gets a chance to really take control of town and give good insight. Thoughts?

People are scumreading marv? Damn. This will be epic. Need to catch up.

I don't think so. I think I just like the idea of getting rid of potentially useful players.

Now that I'm done being an annoying dick, I'm leaving work soon but would love to get your opinions on 1) my annoying posts -- all of them 2) my teammate's reads 3) plammmmmar and his teammate 4) the scum formerly known as mathematical equation i.


6:39, Robik sees Eden's post and makes the remark that we just crossposted.
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote:
ok i'm on page 40

everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste

bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town

we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america

someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated

Do you like crossposting with me?



6:48 OK makes a post SUMMARIZING WHAT EDEN SAID.
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:48 OnceKing wrote:
from sqrt's post that eden quoted:

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.


hahahahaha


If that's not backpacking, I don't know what is.
[/i][/i]
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461355-team-melee-mini-mafia-v-newbies-and-vets?page=42#832
i am pretty sure this post precedes any of those others
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 22:29 GMT
#1306
On July 13 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually, I shouldn't have to apologize to you.
I did nothing wrong.

So I take back my sorry.

$10 says Banks told her that people who apologize are more-often than not mafia. I WANT A LINK TO YOUR QT ONCE THE GAME IS OVER!!!
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 12 2014 22:29 GMT
#1307
On July 13 2014 07:21 OnceKing wrote:
I have no clue where sinani or goodkarma are but it doesn't concern me since they're both town


I'm kind of laying back a bit since Eden's doing such a good job.

I'm here most of the weekend, so if there's anything in particular you (or anyone else) want to discuss with me specifically just let me know.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 12 2014 22:30 GMT
#1308
On July 13 2014 07:27 Eden1892 wrote:
@palmar you already like my lynch but if you want to like it and me more read dis:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461355-team-melee-mini-mafia-v-newbies-and-vets?page=60#1194


Yeah, that was the post OK got his brilliant sentence from.

It's solid, and I'll support this lynch.
Computer says mafia
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 12 2014 22:32 GMT
#1309
On July 13 2014 07:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually, I shouldn't have to apologize to you.
I did nothing wrong.

So I take back my sorry.

$10 says Banks told her that people who apologize are more-often than not mafia. I WANT A LINK TO YOUR QT ONCE THE GAME IS OVER!!!


haha, I'll give it to you once the game is over.

You can see how much flirting we have done.

You can also see how wrong you were on us.

And he didn't tell me that. So at the end of this game I want my 10$.

I will collect.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 12 2014 22:34 GMT
#1310
On July 13 2014 07:27 OnceKing wrote:
palmar please describe more in depth what you're saying about marvderg, and read nb's posts about chairman koshi/offer input on that

right now i have a few town reads i'm pretty confident in, slamroot i'm pretty sure is scum and only a few more holes to fill


The marv/derg thing is basically a massive meta-thing with marv. As I explained I haven't read mderg.

Basically, I townread marv by waiting for him to do something that is really smart. I think he even alluded to it this game, we basically confirm each other as town when he finds something that looks like mafia, and I confirm his suspicion and sheep his case. He hasn't done anything really smart this game or anything that makes me want to lynch him. That doesn't mean he is mafia. I know he is genuinely away today, so he has a perfectly valid excuse. Also his approach to interrogating me felt really fair, as in, he did not want me to look like mafia, he felt like he was simply trying to figure out if I was.

I'll go find those posts by nb, and I also have to read the inactive teams (from what I have read). koshi/chairman, and rayn/slender.

Might not do it this session though, no rush really.
Computer says mafia
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
July 12 2014 22:36 GMT
#1311
To bunnies even though you're apparently afk-ing: much scumminess>little scumminess. I see no reason to avoid the slamroot-Lynch because there's no defense. (How WOULD you defend them? A couple of other possible Scum!responses to the slamroot-pressure are much MUCH more realistic, but I'd rather discuss that once we've actually seen the flip.) Also when you say that Slam wouldn't do this as Town, ummm isn't that the polar opposite of what everyone ELSE has been saying about his meta?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 12 2014 22:36 GMT
#1312
@Robik, there is still a betting rule.
Computer says mafia
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#1313
Robik we're not lynching bunnies
Most outspoken player rule
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 12 2014 23:02 GMT
#1314
On July 13 2014 07:18 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it, I'm okay with this lynch, mostly because if they're town these guys are actively playing against their win condition and ruining the game for the rest of us by not trying to fight a mislynch on day 1, so either they're assholes or mafia.

So yeah there's that. I'm gonna try to read a few more filters.

I didn't read slam, that's pointless. I read sqrtofneg1's filter. I liked OnceKing's red/green/black sentence on him. sqrt has basically been martyring since then so whatever.

Well FUCK

YOU

MAN
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 23:11 GMT
#1315
On July 13 2014 07:36 Palmar wrote:
@Robik, there is still a betting rule.

It's just a statement...not like a real money thing.

I'll bet my bottom dollar that that's what happened. Is that a better thing?
Like, only Rayn would believe that if I said "i'd bet my life on it" i meant it.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 23:12 GMT
#1316
On July 13 2014 07:50 Eden1892 wrote:
Robik we're not lynching bunnies
Most outspoken player rule

Go read Cell Mafia 2 then get back to me.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 23:14 GMT
#1317
On July 13 2014 08:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 07:50 Eden1892 wrote:
Robik we're not lynching bunnies
Most outspoken player rule

Go read Cell Mafia 2 then get back to me.

Ain't nobody got time for that shit
Make ya point girl
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 23:16 GMT
#1318
On July 13 2014 08:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 08:12 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 13 2014 07:50 Eden1892 wrote:
Robik we're not lynching bunnies
Most outspoken player rule

Go read Cell Mafia 2 then get back to me.

Ain't nobody got time for that shit
Make ya point girl

she can post a lot as mafia.
please don't overlook her.
also, banks' meta is that he doesn't post shit as mafia (although he broke it last game as town), it's likely that he's mafia based off of not posting and not providing any insight when he has posted.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 12 2014 23:23 GMT
#1319
True, I can post a lot as mafia.

But I also post a lot as town.

I also tend to not care what I post or what people think about my posting when I am town.

I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 23:23 GMT
#1320
Posting a lot != being outspoken
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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