EPTOn July 17 2014 00:19 marvellosity wrote:
rayn such a slut for towncred.
rayn such a slut for towncred.
but see it worked!
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On July 17 2014 00:23 Holyflare wrote: Kinda prefered the shadow game (not the switch around bit) for the newbie aspect. yeah i think that format was way better. hydra games are quite dumb. you don't really learn anything as a newbie, especially as mafia. | ||
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On July 17 2014 00:26 GlowingBear wrote: Thanks, Rayn!  that "being nice" reasoning is the one I got from my last game. I guess it's a good way to find scum but it sucks as primary argument. This game was really a lesson.It depends on the players. Sure newer players as scum tend to be more careful and just try to blend in iwthout actually calling anyone mafia. But when you play more games and start have a lot of meta on people you notice that some people work in different ways and have different playstyles. After all it comes down to who makes sense and who does not, why people say the stuff they say and does it make sense or not. There really are no "universal scumtells" as everyone is different. | ||
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On July 17 2014 00:31 IAmRobik wrote: I might have to nominate myself for worst case: the case on why Rayn is town That shit was so bad and so wrong and so convoluted lol I kinda wanted to claim mafia at that point just to say "FUCK YOU!" | ||
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On July 17 2014 00:36 GlowingBear wrote: From my newbie POV, this game pushed me to the limits because vets have a very conversational behaviour, it was really hard to keep up reading the chatting. It's hard because faking town for vets is really easy and their accusations are really difficult to avoid. So, this is a very good game for newbies. Also, with a veteran playing with you, they are much more engaged on the game and more helpful because they teach juniors specific topics, which I think is not very well discussed with coaches. The downside is that it gets much more meta focused, and that's not good for newbies because that's just impression on someone vets are used to play. It does not make us evolve as a player, it only gives us experience regarding the vets. We evolve our "vets reading" but not evolve "game playing". I don't know if I am clear here... I get your points and i think you are right. Basically if you want to "learn" on what to look for and how to post or scumhunt on D1 you can shadow me in the Twitterverse Mini Mafia (in case Blazinghand allows that). You follow the game, we would have a QT and i tell you why i think someone is mafia and why i post what i do. It doesn't even matter if i am town or mafia because i tend to post quite similarly on D1. Ignore robik because i do all of those things as both alignments and that's not really behavioural analysis. | ||
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On July 17 2014 00:47 kitaman27 wrote: Ah I suppose that would be a bit rough. Sounds like you need to move.  no i just need Artanis to host more games | ||
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You didn't read anything Palmar. | ||
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On July 17 2014 01:09 IAmRobik wrote: Palmar's so good he doesn't have to read games I know! ROBIK DON'T READ THIS SPOILER!!!! + Show Spoiler + I would also want you to let know you are going to play the VSHunt game if it's okay with you. I am dumb but so are you... ^^ | ||
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On July 17 2014 01:15 Palmar wrote: Super agree with the bolded. Notice for example how I eliminated OK's and Eden's team based on them and not their partners, and how ExO was instrumental in making Robik readable. For townies it's twice the chance of doing someting that looks really town, and for mafia it's twice the chance of messing up. funny.. i kinda tried to push the opposite. but yeah, this is right. PoE is much easier than to find scum if ppl play well. | ||
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On July 17 2014 01:17 IAmRobik wrote: IF people knew that game that you named the password to our hydra "robertthebest" they would understand why your points against me were completely illogical wait wtf? i named the hydra pw "robertthebest" when we were "going to hydra" MSPaint Titanic.... ^_^ | ||
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On July 17 2014 01:20 OnceKing wrote: and I feel like PoE is kind of hard to deal with from scumside lol. Because it'll get to the point where it's not like there's a case against you that you can refute, it's just kinda well everyone else is town and you're not as town as them so you're scum The only thing you can say to that is like, "oh i disagree, your process of elimination is wrong" which comes down to... eh. It's not nearly as defensible as an actual case. yeah you can't do anything about it pretty much. that's why mini-games (<15ppl) are so town favoured. | ||
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On July 17 2014 01:25 IAmRobik wrote: Yeah, but that meant that you couldn't think i was braindead in that game, but you were saying that i was bad, which meant that you had to be mafia, cause you couldn't think i'm bad I really do not have any idea what you are talking about haha! ^^ PM me? | ||
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On July 17 2014 01:27 Palmar wrote: Rayn's illness is lack of skillness haha! :D you got me! this is way better that Oats' quote. | ||
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On July 17 2014 08:36 Tehpoofter wrote: For the bh game? I stepped back and realized I was being selfish I'm taking the ban and sitting out twitter verse which looks fun as fuck. yes. so ok. | ||
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On July 18 2014 23:18 Wile E. Coyote wrote: It actually was one thing but you kept asking loaded questions. Loaded questions aren't scum hunting my friend. Loaded questions are the core of scumhunting. You just need to know what to expect a townie/mafia to answer to them. | ||
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On July 19 2014 00:31 HaruRH wrote: 'Both of you are fucking terrible at this game and will never become good at this game' This shit still rings in my head and I really don't want a repeat of such a game. By the way, it is a play I decided to make, not me being terrible at this game. So seeing this comment just made me rage. I didn't bother reading through the whole thing at that time. 'you were entirely unconvincing when you spent the whole game getting mad at people who disagreed with you and yelling at them like that was going to change their minds.' Like I said, this was a play I chose to do. I never regretted doing this. I had to balance out glowingbear's interaction with the game - if I also interacted with the game, I am 100% sure we would be nk'ed n2. Therefore, I had to act retarded and try to smoke past d2, looking as bad as a nk as possible. but. you know what happened. I just hope you realise everyone is smart enough in these mafia games to know what to do. Nobody is bullshitting for no reason - they have their own reasons. You don't just chalk everything up as 'bad play' and show them face. I will see your future games and how you interact with others before deciding if I would like to play another game with you, but for now, to avoid me blowing myself out at d1 arguing with you in other games, I want to avoid playing any games with you. Also remember that you cannot regret doing something since it is already done. 'You certainly dished it back before and after I made my comment. I've chalked them up to heat-of-the-moment angry insults you didn't actually mean' The insults aimed at you this game was made because you did the exact same to me and I raged. It wasn't heat of the moment. The bolded part is not really the way to play Haru. If you/GB looked town the would have been even more easier for the town. If people who are town look town it doesn't matter who get's NK'd and scum have no room to hide. It's really easy. I mean that scum can't literally win the game whatever they do.. | ||
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IMO there is nothing wrong in using strong language when you don't personally insult anyone. However some people take things differently but if someone calls for example me an "asshole" or "bad" or uses cursewords i don't really care. I also think noone else should care because this is an emotional game where people are trying to get their point across and sometimes get frustrated, as town, or even as mafia (yes - i was for example frustrated when noone seemed to understand what i really wanted to say in my case against Haru/GB). Personal insults are another thing (i mean when you just call someone names and don't even have an argument - as what happens sometimes when people just aren't capable of arguing in certain situations). I don't think i saw anything like this in this game (although i didn't have a chance to read the thread after the last time i posted as an alive player  ) | ||
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On July 19 2014 01:22 OnceKing wrote: i mean imo you just say whatever you have to say in order to get the result you want without crossing a line of personally insulting people it's undoubtedly going to cause salt down the line but salt is natural and ever flowing, salt is part of the circle of trife and always happens after anyone loses at anything anyway. Yes. People should realize a game is a game, play the game, argue with game related comments and not with AtE (only). After game the game was just a game, someone played good, someone played bad. Probably everyone can learn unless someone called out all mafia from the beginning and lead the town to victory. | ||
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