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On July 17 2014 11:39 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2014 04:37 Snickers wrote: Yea it's time for you guys to stop voting robik.
Atleast two players have proven they are bad. Sebastian brought up percentages. The percentage of newbie games first lynch mafia is a lot lower than ring.
Anyway gobble is scum, so obvious. Explain? Or should I respond with "Anyway snickers is scum, so obvious"? Because your accusation is worse than BH's RNG.
why do you have robik as scum?
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On July 17 2014 12:18 Snickers wrote: If you want to see try hard look at my mini mafia (roman number) game hosted by kurami. (not 100% if that is his correctly spelled name, he is from Poland).
That point only makes sense if I am also not try hard when playing town. THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE SLIPPED. I am tryhard, I double checked your count of four people. You have enough suspicion to vote me but are too lazy to actually do a real check. You retract your vote for terrible reason because you are afraid of what my close reading can do. One scum has been found.
Also clarification. The reason why his filter being entirely questions is bad, is because he completely forced one question. Aka his filter is all forced, nothing genuine.
whats wrong with a filter full of questions?
you know, besides nothing.
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that last snickers post was awful and it reminded me of what i posted in wc.
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On July 17 2014 13:26 Snickers wrote: I dont see how that helps the thread at all. Also I love how kush reads my meta---> I am town. Reads my meta again ----->I am scum. Stop reading me with an alignment in mind.
wat
i think you really need to rethink what youre saying because youre not making any sense at all.
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sure okay.
##vote snickers
youre 100% on defending yourself and you keep avoiding questions that need to be answered. get to answering.
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On July 17 2014 13:26 kushm4sta wrote: i guess i need to ask you a third time because you aren't answering: why you say gg was obv scum? and what was scummy about obi's unvote?
these.
you basically just said they dont help the thread and you just went on defending yourself even though both of these things need to be answered.
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On July 17 2014 13:20 Snickers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2014 12:51 kushm4sta wrote: snickers, the post in which I asked you the same question twice, i also asked you a new question. I was just consolidating my questions.
And no I didn't read a lot of your filter, nor have I read any of your town filters. I actually have to read one of your town filters to get a good meta read of you, you are right. But the reason why I unvoted you was because your posts looked less tryhard than your scumgame. So I'm not going to vote someone for shitposting, if they don't shitpost as scum.
ANYWAY something doesn't sit right about you still. You are too tired to explain thoughts you already had, like why things you said were scummy were scummy, yet you had plenty of energy to concoct this shitcase against me for "asking questions." Seems like explaining your old suspicions would be quicker than coming up with new ones. Add to that the fact that your suspicion is very omgusy.
##vote snickers
still wanna read one of your towngames before I feel confident in the vote though.
numbers refer to paragraphs. 1. This smells of the shittiest bullshit I have ever heard. 2. Your first post towards me was you seriously asking me about my posts. Next post... BAM VOTE. You did not vote me for shit posts and if you thought they were shit you would not seriously ask me about them. I did nothing in between the time interval for you to think ...good posts...shit posts.. 3.If it is a shitcase, why are you acting like I put alot of effort into it. I do not understand the sentence that starts with seems. Summy is that you are not making anysense and just back peddling yourself. Any more bad defense posts that I can use for my case against you tomorrow?
So you agree with me to vote and me lol. So you are taking my posts seriously even though you think I am scum. Aka you do not actually think I am scum and are just letting your emotions guide my alignment. Just like kushs meta reads on me.
I am 100% defending myself? lol cause I am not pushing kush. What questions need to be anwsered obi? Let me help you as much as I can.
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On July 17 2014 13:45 Snickers wrote:If you read closely, I was not even talking about that post. And it is time for me to come clean. Off of the top off my head, I said gg was obv scum to get discussion going. The reason I said him was because I find it most likely for scum to be the third one to jump on. Also I think his reasoning was weak. As for obis unvote, his reasoning was also weak. Now these were mainly to get conversation going so I do not really care if my recalling of details is accurate. And if Robik wants to read me mafia this game like last game I did something similar, well I would not have such a great case on kush without them .
what was weak about my reasoning?
robik was at l-1, you really think i should sit here and lynch him because rng? what kind of reasoning would i need to unvote him in a "not-scummy" way?
doesnt make sense to me.
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On July 17 2014 13:50 Snickers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2014 13:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 17 2014 13:20 Snickers wrote:On July 17 2014 12:51 kushm4sta wrote: snickers, the post in which I asked you the same question twice, i also asked you a new question. I was just consolidating my questions.
And no I didn't read a lot of your filter, nor have I read any of your town filters. I actually have to read one of your town filters to get a good meta read of you, you are right. But the reason why I unvoted you was because your posts looked less tryhard than your scumgame. So I'm not going to vote someone for shitposting, if they don't shitpost as scum.
ANYWAY something doesn't sit right about you still. You are too tired to explain thoughts you already had, like why things you said were scummy were scummy, yet you had plenty of energy to concoct this shitcase against me for "asking questions." Seems like explaining your old suspicions would be quicker than coming up with new ones. Add to that the fact that your suspicion is very omgusy.
##vote snickers
still wanna read one of your towngames before I feel confident in the vote though.
numbers refer to paragraphs. 1. This smells of the shittiest bullshit I have ever heard. 2. Your first post towards me was you seriously asking me about my posts. Next post... BAM VOTE. You did not vote me for shit posts and if you thought they were shit you would not seriously ask me about them. I did nothing in between the time interval for you to think ...good posts...shit posts.. 3.If it is a shitcase, why are you acting like I put alot of effort into it. I do not understand the sentence that starts with seems. Summy is that you are not making anysense and just back peddling yourself. Any more bad defense posts that I can use for my case against you tomorrow? So you agree with me to vote and me lol. So you are taking my posts seriously even though you think I am scum. Aka you do not actually think I am scum and are just letting your emotions guide my alignment. Just like kushs meta reads on me.
I am 100% defending myself? lol cause I am not pushing kush. What questions need to be anwsered obi? Let me help you as much as I can. ._. .________________. I really do not understand this. I think you are not reading well. I was talking about kush defending himself. Do you really want me to answer your question in detail of why I said something to get discussion going? You seem to care a little too much.
youre claiming that youre not pushing kush even though you basically told us that you're posting a case on him tomorrow.
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On July 17 2014 13:45 Snickers wrote:If you read closely, I was not even talking about that post. And it is time for me to come clean. Off of the top off my head, I said gg was obv scum to get discussion going. The reason I said him was because I find it most likely for scum to be the third one to jump on. Also I think his reasoning was weak. As for obis unvote, his reasoning was also weak. Now these were mainly to get conversation going so I do not really care if my recalling of details is accurate. And if Robik wants to read me mafia this game like last game I did something similar, well I would not have such a great case on kush without them .
is this sarcasm too?
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On July 17 2014 14:09 Snickers wrote: no that is not sarcasm and this is not either. Start doing something useful please. Unless of course you are extremely tired like I am. I was too tempted with kush's bad mafia play tho.
post your case.
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look, you cant just sit here and mudsling onto every single player in the game and expect it to be totally fine. youve provided the worst reasoning in the world for almost everything that youve posted and i seriously doubt you even have a half decent case on kush because nothing youve said thus far has made sense.
whenever youre not tired or whatever, i want these questions answered: *why is it that you think people are forcing questions? what makes you think theyre forced? youve said this about two or three people and you havent backed up a single instance as to why you thought this.
*i actually posted this before, but i still want you to address it because you havent, for whatever reason:
robik was at l-1, you really think i should sit here and lynch him because rng? what kind of reasoning would i need to unvote him in a "not-scummy" way?
*whats wrong with me "caring" or whatever the fuck that means?
*why do you need to evaluate everyone before posting a case on someone you think is scummy?
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On July 17 2014 14:37 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2014 13:45 Snickers wrote:If you read closely, I was not even talking about that post. And it is time for me to come clean. Off of the top off my head, I said gg was obv scum to get discussion going. The reason I said him was because I find it most likely for scum to be the third one to jump on. Also I think his reasoning was weak. As for obis unvote, his reasoning was also weak. Now these were mainly to get conversation going so I do not really care if my recalling of details is accurate. And if Robik wants to read me mafia this game like last game I did something similar, well I would not have such a great case on kush without them . snip
why did you have robik as scum?
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omgus = oh my god you suck.
voting someone for voting you.
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##unvote ##vote mysterymeat1
two wishy washy reads on two players that are incredibly town and a (maybe) scumread that doesnt make any sense. scumreading someone for lacking contribution is incredibly scummy if they have nothing to give you on something like day 1, but my filter is the second most active in the game and that read doesnt make any sense.
and even though youve accused me of not contributing, your first post into the game is an immediate backtrack of your townread on robik for no reason followed by two not-reads.
youre mafia. bye.
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On July 17 2014 22:45 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2014 16:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ##unvote ##vote mysterymeat1
two wishy washy reads on two players that are incredibly town and a (maybe) scumread that doesnt make any sense. scumreading someone for lacking contribution is incredibly scummy if they have nothing to give you on something like day 1, but my filter is the second most active in the game and that read doesnt make any sense.
and even though youve accused me of not contributing, your first post into the game is an immediate backtrack of your townread on robik for no reason followed by two not-reads.
youre mafia. bye. Your post is almost as bad as MM1's. You essential bitch about me being scum for 30 hours and then you say that I'm incredibly town.
no its not. its not even close.
wat.
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On July 18 2014 02:06 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2014 22:35 Sylencia wrote:On July 17 2014 11:20 Damdred wrote:On July 17 2014 09:58 Sylencia wrote:On July 17 2014 04:37 Snickers wrote: Yea it's time for you guys to stop voting robik.
Atleast two players have proven they are bad. Sebastian brought up percentages. The percentage of newbie games first lynch mafia is a lot lower than ring.
Anyway gobble is scum, so obvious. Please follow through with an explanation with your last statement because if it's some meta thing I wouldn't have a clue. To me the thing that would stick out for me is how easily he sheeps to BH's reasoning and method of choosing the lynch target. Raises my alert level for him but not so much where I would say he's obvious scum so if there's something I'm missing please elaborate. On July 17 2014 03:20 Damdred wrote: This is shit.
Basing a day one vote on rng is crap. Rob shouldn't be lynched because of that. This is how he plays emotional. Lets not hammer him and have a real conversation Ok, were you going to follow up on that? Do you have any suspicions at the moment since all you've said is you want to keep Robik around but you haven't said anything about anyone else. Makes me suspicious that you're simply trying to keep up the activity for appearances. ##Vote damdredAt the moment, your semi-inactivity but push for 'real conversation' just doesn't match up. And let's be honest I've only glazed over the spam + flame war but do tell me if there's something juicy Yea sorry I had anniversary date with the wife today and didn't want to log in to check mafia during it.... Robs good to have around though even when he gets over emotional like right now and spams the thread to hell at least he can read people and puts some form of pressure on it. However this flame war wasn't getting us anywhere really muddles what we can learn from people. I'd say we need to look elsewhere right now besides rob and obi until they calm down at least. Snickers put forward a couple of things that Kush pointed at that I want to hear more about. Fair enough. Who are you personally suspecting as scum then, I am assuming you've got some slight suspicion towards Snickers but other than that I have nothing on what you're thinking. ##unvote ##vote MysteryMeat1 Snickers is acting a bit odd he will probably say a good deal of it was due to him being tired as he alluded to several times in his posts. His actions don't make a lot of sense to me during his discourse with Obi and Kush. He called them both scummy and he decided to avoid the questions they asked, well the questions that he was avoiding most of the thread at the time had asked. After awhile he finally answered and said he was just trying to get conversation going. That answer is really frustrating to me, if he was trying to pressure information out of those two that is ok but yea all of that to just get conversation going when it was already flowing. He goes on to insult people to do stuff in the thread....However before I say hes scummy I really want to read these cases he says hes going to post today and his explanation on himself.
if you dont want to call snickers scummy, then you should probably move your vote onto mm1. meat is far and away the best lynch today.
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On July 17 2014 20:13 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2014 16:46 MysteryMeat1 wrote: So its time to start participatin as im done with three straight days of 10 hour days!
Just from a quick read through,
I really don't like obi, i read through his filter and felt that he didn't really contribute anything. The post where he goes how is your defense working, seemed really really whiny that your defense was working. I don't see obi and Robik being on the same team. If one was to flip green i would probably kill the other one. Your reads are confusing, so let me try to rephrase: 1) obi is scum because he did not contribute. 2) obi's 'how is robik's defense working' post seems like a scum expressing disappointment at the fact that robik got off the noose. 3) obi is on a different team to robik So doesn't that by logic mean robik is town? Or do you think that if obi flipped town despite your suspicions, then robik would be scum - but why? Why would obi being town make robik scum when you haven't stated what makes robik guilty? If your answer is that obi and robik are really at odds with each other and are unlikely to be on the same team, then that's not really an argument for obi-town implying robik-scum. Town doesn't know who else is town and it's very common to find 2 townies being mortal enemies. So the enemy of a townie isn't necessarily scum.
the conclusion you should be drawing from your analysis is that mm1 is being a politician about keeping his lynch targets open. there is no read to be drawn from that post, and trying to correct his thought process isnt what you should be trying to accomplish. instead, voting him is probably the best course of action, because youve caught him doing something incredibly scummy and he should die for it.
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