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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
July 17 2014 06:34 GMT
#301
in the sense that he provides us with a D1 lynch every day without fail, he exists and is interventionist. however, RNGesus believes in free will so it's up to us to choose to follow him or be damned
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 17 2014 06:41 GMT
#302
BH, I'm waiting soooo impatiently for this "real" case on me.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
July 17 2014 06:47 GMT
#303
don't worry it will be as "real" as they come
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 17 2014 06:49 GMT
#304
On July 17 2014 15:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'm gonna ##unvote Robik because he's actually towny as fuck


MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
July 17 2014 07:46 GMT
#305
So its time to start participatin as im done with three straight days of 10 hour days!

Just from a quick read through,

I really don't like obi, i read through his filter and felt that he didn't really contribute anything. The post where he goes how is your defense working, seemed really really whiny that your defense was working. I don't see obi and Robik being on the same team. If one was to flip green i would probably kill the other one.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 17 2014 07:59 GMT
#306
##unvote
##vote mysterymeat1


two wishy washy reads on two players that are incredibly town and a (maybe) scumread that doesnt make any sense. scumreading someone for lacking contribution is incredibly scummy if they have nothing to give you on something like day 1, but my filter is the second most active in the game and that read doesnt make any sense.

and even though youve accused me of not contributing, your first post into the game is an immediate backtrack of your townread on robik for no reason followed by two not-reads.

youre mafia. bye.
Retired.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
July 17 2014 11:13 GMT
#307
On July 17 2014 16:46 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
So its time to start participatin as im done with three straight days of 10 hour days!

Just from a quick read through,

I really don't like obi, i read through his filter and felt that he didn't really contribute anything. The post where he goes how is your defense working, seemed really really whiny that your defense was working. I don't see obi and Robik being on the same team. If one was to flip green i would probably kill the other one.


Your reads are confusing, so let me try to rephrase:

1) obi is scum because he did not contribute.

2) obi's 'how is robik's defense working' post seems like a scum expressing disappointment at the fact that robik got off the noose.

3) obi is on a different team to robik


So doesn't that by logic mean robik is town?

Or do you think that if obi flipped town despite your suspicions, then robik would be scum - but why? Why would obi being town make robik scum when you haven't stated what makes robik guilty?

If your answer is that obi and robik are really at odds with each other and are unlikely to be on the same team, then that's not really an argument for obi-town implying robik-scum. Town doesn't know who else is town and it's very common to find 2 townies being mortal enemies. So the enemy of a townie isn't necessarily scum.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
July 17 2014 13:35 GMT
#308
On July 17 2014 11:20 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 09:58 Sylencia wrote:
On July 17 2014 04:37 Snickers wrote:
Yea it's time for you guys to stop voting robik.

Atleast two players have proven they are bad. Sebastian brought up percentages. The percentage of newbie games first lynch mafia is a lot lower than ring.

Anyway gobble is scum, so obvious.


Please follow through with an explanation with your last statement because if it's some meta thing I wouldn't have a clue. To me the thing that would stick out for me is how easily he sheeps to BH's reasoning and method of choosing the lynch target. Raises my alert level for him but not so much where I would say he's obvious scum so if there's something I'm missing please elaborate.

On July 17 2014 03:20 Damdred wrote:
This is shit.

Basing a day one vote on rng is crap. Rob shouldn't be lynched because of that. This is how he plays emotional. Lets not hammer him and have a real conversation


Ok, were you going to follow up on that? Do you have any suspicions at the moment since all you've said is you want to keep Robik around but you haven't said anything about anyone else. Makes me suspicious that you're simply trying to keep up the activity for appearances.

##Vote damdred
At the moment, your semi-inactivity but push for 'real conversation' just doesn't match up.

And let's be honest I've only glazed over the spam + flame war but do tell me if there's something juicy


Yea sorry I had anniversary date with the wife today and didn't want to log in to check mafia during it....

Robs good to have around though even when he gets over emotional like right now and spams the thread to hell at least he can read people and puts some form of pressure on it. However this flame war wasn't getting us anywhere really muddles what we can learn from people. I'd say we need to look elsewhere right now besides rob and obi until they calm down at least.

Snickers put forward a couple of things that Kush pointed at that I want to hear more about.


Fair enough. Who are you personally suspecting as scum then, I am assuming you've got some slight suspicion towards Snickers but other than that I have nothing on what you're thinking.

On July 17 2014 03:51 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just a quick glance and i think robik is town, bit busy at the moment but ill be on later tonight


On July 17 2014 16:46 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
So its time to start participatin as im done with three straight days of 10 hour days!

Just from a quick read through,

I really don't like obi, i read through his filter and felt that he didn't really contribute anything. The post where he goes how is your defense working, seemed really really whiny that your defense was working. I don't see obi and Robik being on the same team. If one was to flip green i would probably kill the other one.


Somehow instead of saying 'obi red, robik green' you've ended up with a really weak 'one is red, one is green' statement. I have no idea how you managed to pretty much backflip on robik given the implications of what you said. Did you forget what you said and slip up

pre-post edit: lol literally said what obi just said before reading his post

##unvote
##vote MysteryMeat1
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 17 2014 13:45 GMT
#309
On July 17 2014 16:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##unvote
##vote mysterymeat1


two wishy washy reads on two players that are incredibly town and a (maybe) scumread that doesnt make any sense. scumreading someone for lacking contribution is incredibly scummy if they have nothing to give you on something like day 1, but my filter is the second most active in the game and that read doesnt make any sense.

and even though youve accused me of not contributing, your first post into the game is an immediate backtrack of your townread on robik for no reason followed by two not-reads.

youre mafia. bye.

Your post is almost as bad as MM1's. You essential bitch about me being scum for 30 hours and then you say that I'm incredibly town.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 17 2014 14:33 GMT
#310
On July 17 2014 22:35 Sylencia wrote:

pre-post edit: lol literally said what obi just said before reading his post
[/b]

Don't lynch this guy.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
July 17 2014 15:16 GMT
#311
Vote Count – Day 1


Gobbledygook (0): ObiWanShinobi
Damdred (0): ObiWanShinobi, Sylencia
ObiWanShinobi (0): gobbledydook, IAmRobik
Kushm4sta (1): ObiWanShinobi, Snickers
IAmRobik (1): ObiWanShinobi, Blazinghand, ObiWanShinobi, gobbledydook, Kushm4sta, ObiWanShinobi
Sylencia (0): ObiWanShinobi
Snickers (1): ObiWanShinobi, Kushm4sta, Kushm4sta, ObiWanShinobi, gobbledydook
Blazinghand (2):: ObiWanShinobi, IAmRobik, Kushm4sta
MysteryMeat1 (2): ObiWanShinobi, ObiWanShinobi, Sylencia

Not Voting (2): MysteryMeat1, Damdred

Five votes are required to lynch.



Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!

It is currently Day 1. The day will end in , or when five votes on one person are reached.

ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 17 2014 16:55 GMT
#312
On July 17 2014 22:45 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 16:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##unvote
##vote mysterymeat1


two wishy washy reads on two players that are incredibly town and a (maybe) scumread that doesnt make any sense. scumreading someone for lacking contribution is incredibly scummy if they have nothing to give you on something like day 1, but my filter is the second most active in the game and that read doesnt make any sense.

and even though youve accused me of not contributing, your first post into the game is an immediate backtrack of your townread on robik for no reason followed by two not-reads.

youre mafia. bye.

Your post is almost as bad as MM1's. You essential bitch about me being scum for 30 hours and then you say that I'm incredibly town.


no its not. its not even close.

wat.
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 17 2014 17:06 GMT
#313
On July 17 2014 22:35 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On July 17 2014 09:58 Sylencia wrote:
On July 17 2014 04:37 Snickers wrote:
Yea it's time for you guys to stop voting robik.

Atleast two players have proven they are bad. Sebastian brought up percentages. The percentage of newbie games first lynch mafia is a lot lower than ring.

Anyway gobble is scum, so obvious.


Please follow through with an explanation with your last statement because if it's some meta thing I wouldn't have a clue. To me the thing that would stick out for me is how easily he sheeps to BH's reasoning and method of choosing the lynch target. Raises my alert level for him but not so much where I would say he's obvious scum so if there's something I'm missing please elaborate.

On July 17 2014 03:20 Damdred wrote:
This is shit.

Basing a day one vote on rng is crap. Rob shouldn't be lynched because of that. This is how he plays emotional. Lets not hammer him and have a real conversation


Ok, were you going to follow up on that? Do you have any suspicions at the moment since all you've said is you want to keep Robik around but you haven't said anything about anyone else. Makes me suspicious that you're simply trying to keep up the activity for appearances.

##Vote damdred
At the moment, your semi-inactivity but push for 'real conversation' just doesn't match up.

And let's be honest I've only glazed over the spam + flame war but do tell me if there's something juicy


Yea sorry I had anniversary date with the wife today and didn't want to log in to check mafia during it....

Robs good to have around though even when he gets over emotional like right now and spams the thread to hell at least he can read people and puts some form of pressure on it. However this flame war wasn't getting us anywhere really muddles what we can learn from people. I'd say we need to look elsewhere right now besides rob and obi until they calm down at least.

Snickers put forward a couple of things that Kush pointed at that I want to hear more about.


Fair enough. Who are you personally suspecting as scum then, I am assuming you've got some slight suspicion towards Snickers but other than that I have nothing on what you're thinking.

##unvote
##vote MysteryMeat1


Snickers is acting a bit odd he will probably say a good deal of it was due to him being tired as he alluded to several times in his posts. His actions don't make a lot of sense to me during his discourse with Obi and Kush. He called them both scummy and he decided to avoid the questions they asked, well the questions that he was avoiding most of the thread at the time had asked. After awhile he finally answered and said he was just trying to get conversation going. That answer is really frustrating to me, if he was trying to pressure information out of those two that is ok but yea all of that to just get conversation going when it was already flowing.

He goes on to insult people to do stuff in the thread....However before I say hes scummy I really want to read these cases he says hes going to post today and his explanation on himself.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 17 2014 17:11 GMT
#314
On July 18 2014 02:06 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 22:35 Sylencia wrote:
On July 17 2014 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On July 17 2014 09:58 Sylencia wrote:
On July 17 2014 04:37 Snickers wrote:
Yea it's time for you guys to stop voting robik.

Atleast two players have proven they are bad. Sebastian brought up percentages. The percentage of newbie games first lynch mafia is a lot lower than ring.

Anyway gobble is scum, so obvious.


Please follow through with an explanation with your last statement because if it's some meta thing I wouldn't have a clue. To me the thing that would stick out for me is how easily he sheeps to BH's reasoning and method of choosing the lynch target. Raises my alert level for him but not so much where I would say he's obvious scum so if there's something I'm missing please elaborate.

On July 17 2014 03:20 Damdred wrote:
This is shit.

Basing a day one vote on rng is crap. Rob shouldn't be lynched because of that. This is how he plays emotional. Lets not hammer him and have a real conversation


Ok, were you going to follow up on that? Do you have any suspicions at the moment since all you've said is you want to keep Robik around but you haven't said anything about anyone else. Makes me suspicious that you're simply trying to keep up the activity for appearances.

##Vote damdred
At the moment, your semi-inactivity but push for 'real conversation' just doesn't match up.

And let's be honest I've only glazed over the spam + flame war but do tell me if there's something juicy


Yea sorry I had anniversary date with the wife today and didn't want to log in to check mafia during it....

Robs good to have around though even when he gets over emotional like right now and spams the thread to hell at least he can read people and puts some form of pressure on it. However this flame war wasn't getting us anywhere really muddles what we can learn from people. I'd say we need to look elsewhere right now besides rob and obi until they calm down at least.

Snickers put forward a couple of things that Kush pointed at that I want to hear more about.


Fair enough. Who are you personally suspecting as scum then, I am assuming you've got some slight suspicion towards Snickers but other than that I have nothing on what you're thinking.

##unvote
##vote MysteryMeat1


Snickers is acting a bit odd he will probably say a good deal of it was due to him being tired as he alluded to several times in his posts. His actions don't make a lot of sense to me during his discourse with Obi and Kush. He called them both scummy and he decided to avoid the questions they asked, well the questions that he was avoiding most of the thread at the time had asked. After awhile he finally answered and said he was just trying to get conversation going. That answer is really frustrating to me, if he was trying to pressure information out of those two that is ok but yea all of that to just get conversation going when it was already flowing.

He goes on to insult people to do stuff in the thread....However before I say hes scummy I really want to read these cases he says hes going to post today and his explanation on himself.


if you dont want to call snickers scummy, then you should probably move your vote onto mm1. meat is far and away the best lynch today.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 17 2014 17:19 GMT
#315
On July 17 2014 20:13 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 16:46 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
So its time to start participatin as im done with three straight days of 10 hour days!

Just from a quick read through,

I really don't like obi, i read through his filter and felt that he didn't really contribute anything. The post where he goes how is your defense working, seemed really really whiny that your defense was working. I don't see obi and Robik being on the same team. If one was to flip green i would probably kill the other one.


Your reads are confusing, so let me try to rephrase:

1) obi is scum because he did not contribute.

2) obi's 'how is robik's defense working' post seems like a scum expressing disappointment at the fact that robik got off the noose.

3) obi is on a different team to robik


So doesn't that by logic mean robik is town?

Or do you think that if obi flipped town despite your suspicions, then robik would be scum - but why? Why would obi being town make robik scum when you haven't stated what makes robik guilty?

If your answer is that obi and robik are really at odds with each other and are unlikely to be on the same team, then that's not really an argument for obi-town implying robik-scum. Town doesn't know who else is town and it's very common to find 2 townies being mortal enemies. So the enemy of a townie isn't necessarily scum.


the conclusion you should be drawing from your analysis is that mm1 is being a politician about keeping his lynch targets open. there is no read to be drawn from that post, and trying to correct his thought process isnt what you should be trying to accomplish. instead, voting him is probably the best course of action, because youve caught him doing something incredibly scummy and he should die for it.
Retired.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 17 2014 17:22 GMT
#316
At what point does it become unacceptable for BH to not have made a "real" case against me.

These are my posts in the early game. I will then quote BH's post which explains how I'm mafia not by RNG.

On July 16 2014 09:40 IAmRobik wrote:
72 hours of me not talking...i promise

+ Show Spoiler +
please don't lynch me for lying



I am in 4 games right now including this one. Didn't realize that was gonna be the case. I'll still be active though. Promise.





+ Show Spoiler +
oh yeah, i forgot to mention the most important thing: I'm Town -- everyone celebrate!


On July 16 2014 10:36 IAmRobik wrote:
If anyone even considers laying a finger on Kush this game, I'll have your fucking ballsack


On July 16 2014 15:07 IAmRobik wrote:
is this IML?


On July 16 2014 15:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Also, BH, are you such shit tier that you think that rando lynching is better than your chances of leading a lynch against someone who's mafia?


On July 16 2014 15:29 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm positive that I'm town. Looks like a lot of people are ready to mislynch me. This makes me sad as I've never been mislynched in forum mafia...hell, i've never been lynched as mafia either...but i'm town in this game, so it would be a mislynch.


On July 16 2014 15:30 IAmRobik wrote:
2 more people voting me ensures a towny gets lynched d1. If anyone thinks that's pro-town, feel free to vote me. If you decide that you don't want to be donkey dicks and want to refrain from lynching town, feel free to unvote me. the sooner the better.


On July 16 2014 15:34 IAmRobik wrote:
BH, this is just making you look dumb if you're town or you're doing what you need to do as mafia


On July 16 2014 16:05 IAmRobik wrote:
Am I mislynched yet?


On July 16 2014 16:13 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm going to bed. If I wake up and I'm mislynched I'm going to put my tail between my legs and walk away because fml getting mislynched



It was after these posts that BH said:

On July 16 2014 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
honestly iamrobik even if I hadn't rnged you, after this last series of posts there's zero chance i'm not voting you. are you kidding me lol you think anyone's gonna buy that fake anger crap



So his case on me has to be based off of posts before that statement. If he wants to explain how me spamming makes me mafia as an addendum to his "real" case, that's fine, but if the majority of it isn't from before that statement, then that's completely unacceptable, as he would not be able to justify the statement that he made.

SPECIFICALLY, he has to focus his "real" case on me on my "last few posts" before he made that statement.





Basically, what I'm saying is that, he won't be able to make a case. He was trying to get a townie mislynched and my case against him is so fucking strong that he should be strung up by a noose should he give anything less than a spectacular accusation...one that he's avoided giving for like 24hrs now.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 17 2014 17:22 GMT
#317
On July 18 2014 02:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 20:13 gobbledydook wrote:
On July 17 2014 16:46 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
So its time to start participatin as im done with three straight days of 10 hour days!

Just from a quick read through,

I really don't like obi, i read through his filter and felt that he didn't really contribute anything. The post where he goes how is your defense working, seemed really really whiny that your defense was working. I don't see obi and Robik being on the same team. If one was to flip green i would probably kill the other one.


Your reads are confusing, so let me try to rephrase:

1) obi is scum because he did not contribute.

2) obi's 'how is robik's defense working' post seems like a scum expressing disappointment at the fact that robik got off the noose.

3) obi is on a different team to robik


So doesn't that by logic mean robik is town?

Or do you think that if obi flipped town despite your suspicions, then robik would be scum - but why? Why would obi being town make robik scum when you haven't stated what makes robik guilty?

If your answer is that obi and robik are really at odds with each other and are unlikely to be on the same team, then that's not really an argument for obi-town implying robik-scum. Town doesn't know who else is town and it's very common to find 2 townies being mortal enemies. So the enemy of a townie isn't necessarily scum.


the conclusion you should be drawing from your analysis is that mm1 is being a politician about keeping his lynch targets open. there is no read to be drawn from that post, and trying to correct his thought process isnt what you should be trying to accomplish. instead, voting him is probably the best course of action, because youve caught him doing something incredibly scummy and he should die for it.

This is all true. It could very well be MM1 + BH. If so, I was soooo right about a scum defending me
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
July 17 2014 17:28 GMT
#318
The fact that robik wasn't hammered when he was at L-1 means either both scum were on his wagon or that he himself is scum. clearly he's scum and mad he got rnged
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 17 2014 17:30 GMT
#319
Was that your super-solid case? LOOOOOOOOOOOL
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 17 2014 17:34 GMT
#320
the issue with lynching you is that bh always rngs, and people generally overthrow the rng idea as soon as the game gets underway. any of the players here that genuinely believed that an rng lynch was a good idea need to be shot into the sun.

your reaction was incredibly contrived and youre acting like he needed a reason to vote you in the early game, which is basically nothing more than rvs at best. its actually sensible for bh to want to keep voting you for that series of posts. you managed to clean up your play later despite being an asshole, and thats why people dont want to lynch you anymore.

acting like he only has a set period of time to lynch you is nonsense. this isnt time crisis.

also, if you agree with me, go vote mm1.
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