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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 07 2014 23:45 GMT
#680
"weak" was probably the wrong term, more like "needy" perhaps
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 00:04 GMT
#691
On July 08 2014 08:56 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 08 2014 08:34 ritoky wrote:
@Toades: what do you think of yamato77?

nothing that stood out for me either way as of yet.
I got some chills when he said he doesn't trust me because it felt a little buddy-buddy / trying to make fun with me but we do know each other so that's fine with me. As for real input... I can't even remember anything he's done except for that post when he quoted the list post which seemed a little weak. Completly null on him right now.

Other than that I think his/her figure looks pretty awesome if you ignore legs and knees:
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[image loading]
[image loading]


That's very odd to me, because in his filter he states that cora is off the table in his mind for similarly as vague and useless of reasons as forum had in regard to prp. And cora is one of your lynch targets.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
I'm a connoiseur of Cora lynches, and its usually pretty funny to do so, but I think he's legit town this game and I have a vested interest in winning.

Cora thus far has come out with his little reads post, and then has since been under fire for it. This happens literally every game he plays. The way he defends himself is genuine this game, as opposed to the forced way he went about it in Quiet Game where he was scum. Believe me, I know the difference.


Doesn't really seem fully consistent to me.

I don't think anyone besides iamp would be up for the cora lynch together with me right now and I don't hold grudges against people for disagreeing with me so I don't have a problem with that.
I'd have to read the games he posted about to judge that post and I can't be bothered to do that so I ignore it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 00:18 GMT
#701
On July 08 2014 09:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 09:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Alakaslam, you think prplhz is scum?

not necessarily.

I agree with Toad's mindsets but can't even understand his case

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I actually can't even find hsi case on prp

there was no case on prplhz. I thought he was playing to stiff early on and that's about it.

And people got mad at me for not covering that in some flowerish "oh please don't take this the wrong way but I might possible have something to adress about your behavior so far that could totally be wrong because it's only 1 hour into the game" when I go out guns blazing on the first thing I see in EVERY game I play for the sake of creating discussion while pointing something out I find scummy. Either people talk about what I found or people talk about me and my reasoning which is both fine with me.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 00:38 GMT
#706
what's HBC | Toad?

If you don't want to lynch cora you should put your vote onto Forumite. I don't think Prplhz is a good lynch at all right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 00:49 GMT
#710
On July 08 2014 09:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 09:38 Toadesstern wrote:
what's HBC | Toad?

If you don't want to lynch cora you should put your vote onto Forumite. I don't think Prplhz is a good lynch at all right now.

On smashboards a lot of the mafia players have that handle before their names

Coincidentally* they also tend to have anime women as their avatars, with a few exceptions



*HBC, Hot Babes Club; I think not

[image loading]


But I don't post on smashboards
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 14:05 GMT
#915
On July 08 2014 15:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 14:09 Corazon wrote:
How hell-bent are you guys on lynching Forumite? To be honest I can't see myself voting for him. Many of his actions and statements so far (such as his meta-read on Prp and his statement that he can't read Toad objectively once Toad started attacking him) are statements/decisions that I myself would probably do as town. Thinking about it, that could explain why he's been under so much pressure...

Has he really been the scummiest player in the thread so far?

Why are you not considering yourself among the decision-makers in town? Why are you asking us if he's been the scummiest player? Why don't YOU tell US who the scummiest player is if you disagree that it's Forumite?

I'd still be totally up to lynch Cora instead. That post you just quoted was awful on so many levels and gives me the shivers...
Catching up o/
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 14:33 GMT
#932
Okay I don't think this answer from forumite fits at all:
On July 08 2014 20:52 Forumite wrote:
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On July 08 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 08 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 00:27 Toadesstern wrote:
waitwaitwait. That reasoning is stupid as hell but people use it. I do the same whenever I'm dealing with VE and it works wonders. No problem there and towniepoints for not being afraid to mention something that ridiculous lol.

However, this "strategy" is so odd that he shouldn't be expecting other people to use it as well. He's basicly stating that prplhz is town because he looks slightly scummy. If anything the guy should be gushing over me about how I'm a god at mafia for seeing that but STILL being wrong nonetheless according to him. Right?

Yes, he did consider chainsawing you for reading prplhz as scum while he read prplhz as scum.

The plot thickings


*dum dum dum*

exactly. At the same time he has the balls to outright state that for no reason whatsoever. Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me. If this was someone like Marv or me who literally don't give a shit about how weak we post and do it on a regular basis to look like we're ballsy townies fine but this little detail doesn't fit in the picture of forumite being Mafia so far.

That's what I meant with, he's not afraid of posting something that ridiculous (for both things). I'm actually fine with forumite for now lol

Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town".
I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads.

mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing".


You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset.
This is the post you used to justify sheeping Toades. It´s WIFOM and lies. I never pushed Toades, I knew me not voting for prplhz doesn´t make Toades scum. I said I considered chainsawing him to fit in with my "read" on prplhz, but knowing that prplhz wasn´t really confirmed town to anyone else attacking Toades would have been a stupid thing to do. It´s still taken up as a reason why I´m scummy. Can´t you people read?

I just don't see that fitting in with the rest. So he tells me to unvote, without an explanation while KNOWING that the townread on prplhz isn't obvious. And he doesn't try to stop me from voting prplhz either. But still proceeds to mention the read in the first place for no apparent reason and feels the need to tell people that he's smarter than to just chainsaw someone. This all sounds really fishy for me.
The realization that a vote/attack on me would look stupid comming from himself. Sure he says it would be a stupid thing to do but well...
Add to that that I'm not a fan of giving random townreads out like they're candy when you don't have a reason to do so, because it's the easiest thing in the world for mafia to do to look like they're doing something because they don't even have to lie about it and can later on come back and yell at people "told ya I was right about him" if a lynch happens...

The reason I'm posting about this? If you ignore those weird parts inbetween he actually looks genuine recently and I'm not sure what to make of it. I'll keep my vote on him for now but I need to check him out again.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 14:34 GMT
#935
so basicly I'd like some input on wether that's confirmation bias or not from other people
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 14:43 GMT
#942
I wouldn't mind lynching a lurker today. There's this nagging fear in my back that mafia is sitting back, laughing and not posting a bunch while we're destroying ourselves right now. I actually thought from the very beginning that it's a possibility that someone in team-mafia said in their QT to just tell Toad how awesome he is and sheep him because he won't catch scum anyways. And I'm the kind of guy who'd let that get to his head.

So basicly I'm in this game and it's creepy as hell because people point out how my case made sense, how I got good points, how I'm reasonable and all that shit. That's not supposed to happen and it's giving me the shivers.

My conditions for lynching a Lurker:
1) Don't lynch someone forumite suggested
2) Don't lynch someone Koshi suggested (sorry mate, but if my "mafia is trying to sheep Toad to selfdestruct town" paranoia is correct you're right up there)
3) Maybe something else, haven't looked into lurkers yet and will do so right now...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 14:55 GMT
#958
Yes listposts are awful, go yell at me but IF and only IF we're lynching a lurker we need to get straight who's up for discussion. I don't some random guy yelling one name, everyone's like "yeah lynch that guy" and it's obviously been mafia who cherrypicked a townie out of a list. So here's what consults as lurker to me:

(slOosh)
ExO_
HaruRH
batsnacks
mderg
ObiWanShinobi
layabout
Tehpoofter
HiroPro

Anyone I forgot? Anyone that shouldn't be on that list? From a quick check ExO, batsnacks and ObiWan look somewhat delicious
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 15:00 GMT
#964
On July 08 2014 23:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 23:55 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:53 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:48 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I'm starting to like the idea of simply lynching into inactives.

vote pls


Pick a number from 1 to 3.

3 most awesome number.


Hokay.
##Vote HiroPro

hiro and laya are like the 2 guys I'm not willing to lynch despite being lurkers
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 15:03 GMT
#971
On July 09 2014 00:00 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:57 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:55 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:53 Vivax wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:48 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I'm starting to like the idea of simply lynching into inactives.

vote pls


Pick a number from 1 to 3.

3 most awesome number.


Hokay.
##Vote HiroPro

hiro and laya are like the 2 guys I'm not willing to lynch despite being lurkers

why

they're both completly afk. The rest is just posting very, very little. I feel like chances to hit mafia are higher if we go for someone who looks like he's under the radar but not completly away.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 15:03 GMT
#973
On July 09 2014 00:01 ExO_ wrote:
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi

I'm going to be completely honest I haven't read the thread in it's entirety. But from what I have skimmed through, it looked like forumite was pushed up prematurely for silly Day 1 reasons. So I prefer Obi instead.

insta delurk
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 15:13 GMT
#983
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 15:44 GMT
#1008
On July 09 2014 00:32 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:25 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:23 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:18 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:16 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy.
Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time.

hahahahahahaha

That goes for you too

pls gooby pls

You are telling the one person who made the most cases (Toad) to use his time more useful when you haven't done jack shit this game. An hommage:

prplz town because I read him as scum
Koshi totes ruining thread with his 5 posts about riddles guys. I am totes upset. also many omgus.
Robik scum with the omgus threatening.
SlOosh sheeps to fake activity.
Toad I keep blabbering about. I don't really know what I am saying. Or do I? Nobody knows.
layabout pure lurker.
Exo lurker that was getting thread sentiment.

What did I miss?

nice list, I´d like to make lists someday

Is the list scummy? Are you calling Koshi scum for making a list? Like, how is THIS post productive?

It´s not, I´m just pissed off at Toades and Koshi.

Well I went out of my way stating that I'm probably on massive confirmation bias about you right now and that I'm not going to push you harder than I am without other people giving their thoughts on you as well to make sure that's not going down south. On top of that I just said I'd be up to lynch a lurker, including a post to get people on track and discuss a little who over who instead of just randomly suggestion one guy out of nowhere.

I honestly don't think you're going to get more out of me when dealing with you today. So yeah, try to take VE's advice and while I mostly ignore you, ignore me and do something else.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 16:09 GMT
#1016
so wait and see if we have vigs. Wasting a lynch on someone that everyone can just vote without giving the slightest bit of a reason because laya and hiro have literally 1 post gives us nothing in the worst case. We'd be standing on d2 like it was d1 with nothing happening and everyone had a cheap way to pull their vote on someone.

The ones that are posting slightly and only under the radar without being completly afk at least generate some kind of comittment for people when voting.

Let the vigs deal with laya and hiro, don't waste a lynch on them and if we don't have vigs we'll start considering from d2, not sooner.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 16:44 GMT
#1023
On ExO:
On July 08 2014 05:25 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 05:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:14 ExO_ wrote:
These day 1 reads are always so full of bullshit, its almost funny.


Yeah, my reads d1 arent always good.
It happens.

But why shouldn't we be reading you as mafia?

You've posted 1 thing the entire game.


I hate posting massive reads on day 1, because I think they're largely baseless and fueled by past games and ego. I'd rather wait until after day 1 voting so I'll have some actual basis by which to evaluate people. This is consistent with my town play in both Order and World Cup (though I guess that isn't over so it can't be confirmed yet).

Not posting a lot on the first day doesn't make me scummy at all. Calling me mafia is just an attempt to get me to read other people, which I won't do until after day 1.

why feel the need to post that?
On July 08 2014 05:40 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 05:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:25 ExO_ wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 05:14 ExO_ wrote:
These day 1 reads are always so full of bullshit, its almost funny.


Yeah, my reads d1 arent always good.
It happens.

But why shouldn't we be reading you as mafia?

You've posted 1 thing the entire game.


I hate posting massive reads on day 1, because I think they're largely baseless and fueled by past games and ego. I'd rather wait until after day 1 voting so I'll have some actual basis by which to evaluate people. This is consistent with my town play in both Order and World Cup (though I guess that isn't over so it can't be confirmed yet).

Not posting a lot on the first day doesn't make me scummy at all. Calling me mafia is just an attempt to get me to read other people, which I won't do until after day 1.


But that's so boring.

Basically you are saying "Here. I'm not going to give any reads at all on day 1, let everyone else do the work, while I just sit back, and place a vote by sheeping my mafia partner or if you are town, the towniest person in the game)"

That shit don't fly with me.


It might be boring, but it's what I prefer. Instead of bullshitting like some people, I'm not going to stir up shit on day 1, that'll be based on nothing. It's silly and doesn't help town. There are some people here who are able to read players day 1, I'm not one of them. So while you may not like it, it's hardly indicative of my alignment, and as I said is consistent with my town player in the other mafia games I've played here on TL.

If that's your basis for a scum read on me, then I think perhaps you may consider that you aren't one of the people that can read and find mafia on day 1.

That's a giant cop-out but he's quite ballsy. He's bringing attention to himself by bringing that up himself. Why'd he do that as mafia?

on ObiWan
On July 08 2014 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote:
Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum?


i voted him to blend in with the town.

i was really hoping nobody would call me on it shit gg.

I know it's supposed to be a joke but that kind of phrase always makes me think the person in question isn't part of town himself... I wanted to blend in WITH THE TOWN.... who the fuck says that

Was ObiWan the one VE pushed? I know he pushed mderg recently but I think someone was on ObiWan as well
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 17:02 GMT
#1030
Oh right, ritoky is a lurker as well. He talked with me 3 times so I had him in my mind at least posting but he really hasn't done anything besides that
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 17:04 GMT
#1032
On July 09 2014 02:02 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 05:07 Toadesstern wrote:
I don't like Kush, on a personal level. The guy called me bad and it's not Kurumi. Damn I could be posting so many delicious Kurumi .gifs if he was in this game...


Just got to this part.
Sorry man, I didn't mean you were bad. I just meant I didn't think the argument you were making was valid.

don't sweat, was supposed to be a joke to begin with because if I recall correctly people where posting useless shit around that time.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 08 2014 17:20 GMT
#1044
On July 09 2014 02:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
lets talk about how town nb is.

i think shes pretty town.

agree/disagree?

let's not talk about that. That's useless and if correct you're either a townie who got a correct read or a mafia who's telling us the truth. Pretty hard to differentiate between the two. Especially with the vast amount of information given to understand your thought process.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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