On July 21 2014 00:01 layabout wrote:
an sk 2 other 3p with kp and a mafia team with a least 2 extra kills is really silly
i am not buying an sk in this setup

you think mafia with 2KP after already being down 3 members is any less silly?

Toadesstern

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July 20 2014 17:46 GMT

#3318

On July 21 2014 02:35 marvellosity wrote:
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srsly, how in the world does this make sense to you layabout if there's no SK.

8 people alive and mafia's on 2 KP? The Vig already flipped so no way do they have another one with how OP the last one turned out to be.
If they have 2 KP it's AT LEAST three (!) mafia still alive because that'd make for some sketchy 3 mafia alive => 1.5KP => rounded up = 2 KP but that's sketchy as fuck, both for the reason of rounding up and for the reason of having a 26player 6 mafia set-up.

Either there's an SK around who's giving +1 static KP or the flips we've seen aren't correct and have been altered with by some kind of role...

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 16:12 GMT

#3369

Can we still lynch people or is it between wether the SK or mafia wins?

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 16:14 GMT

#3370

well let's see

##vote Sloosh

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 16:15 GMT

#3371

I fully expect the check from BM to be a lie btw.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 17:20 GMT

#3384

I told people he scumslipped. I kept asking people why he's still alive and everyone was "dude you're nuts, you're just going paranoid"...

Didn't think a lynch on BM was possible and with BM claiming a track just now I really didn't think we'd get anything else and I just went all-in hoping I was wrong about BM... sorry

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 17:26 GMT

#3395

On July 22 2014 02:22 Damdred wrote:
It was really possible Toad that a medic was trying to keep him alive but.... the fewer people were alive the less likely that it was so.

Him throwing kush and viv down really helped him

but the medic already died earlier on and mafia let the "cop" of the game while already having lost their GF alive for like 5 days straight and everyone's telling me to stop bugging BM... I even was "close" to being lynched for calling BM mafia on d3 or so

That being said I didn't play well either. It was a really annoying game. I did put some effort into the game but once I realized that half the game isn't playing I really didn't put anything into the game anymore. We had so many lurkers and there was nothing to do about it and suddenly Alakaslam gets banned as well and it just got worse every day...

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 17:33 GMT

#3402

PALMAR, include notifications. Had I know that I was shot on n1 I would have totally been more motivated. I really got frustrated that I was still alive later on and thought mafia was mocking me à la "lol keep Toad alive, the guy is wrong about everything he says"

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 17:39 GMT

#3407

On July 22 2014 02:34 Palmar wrote:

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I (personally) think notifications give town way too much information that they don't need. My games have never had notifications.

yeah I know and I actually agree but it was so frustrating going in this, thinking I was obviously town to EVERYONE early on and I'm still alive for some reason. Wasn't a complaint to be taken seriously

I do think you should include the "post at least once a cycle" or "once every 48 hours" rule if you keep the instant hammer though. If you're telling people to post at least that much via pm, might as well include it as a rule from the get go. Sure it can be a strategy for mafia but I think it'd make for better games with that as a bottom line.

On July 22 2014 02:37 Damdred wrote:
If exo had actually played it might of been a bit different could of swung votes better towards the end instead of being stuck on one lynch.

In this setup no notifications makes sense but Toad was right about a lot of stuff

funnily enough, everything that was proper analysis ended up being wrong from me.
The stuff that was about people's phrasing was mostly correct like ObiWan, BM scumslipping and well... except for the big post about cora.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 17:42 GMT

#3414

On July 22 2014 02:42 Palmar wrote:
or rather, exactly the KP formula found at the end of this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15912782

WHY DID NOONE TELL ME ABOUT THAT

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 21:25 GMT

#3484

On July 22 2014 06:23 marvellosity wrote:

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BM would have been modkilled for posting after hammer if we allowed the ExO lynch. That was the choice we had.

Honestly speaking I thought about lynching BM after that again because it sounded like he was really pissed about the lynch not going through. Think he posted something like "really palmar?" or whatever else, but in the end decided against it because noone was willing to lynch BM anyways. So I just tried looking elsewhere

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 21:32 GMT

#3488

On July 22 2014 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
Well you should have lynched BM on the spot for trying to get a townie lynched for no reason with a fake check, followed by expressing disappointment that the townie didn't get lynched.

No-one seemed to bat an eyelid.

I was raging pretty hard at him the entire game and got a crapton of flak for it "omfg Toad, BM so obviously town. He delivered us a check. TRUST THE CHECK"

and laya just kept on saying that it's BM, don't mind him

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 21 2014 22:47 GMT

#3507

Yeah, we all know it's VE because of Storm Mafia 1 and that he just thought it would be super impolite to repeat the same kind of ownage he did in the first one.