World Cup Mini Mafia

On June 24 2014 03:47 Holyflare wrote:
reserved2

On June 27 2014 13:40 Cavalinho wrote:
Fine.

##unvote robik
##vote obvious

I don't think anything of kush.

On June 27 2014 13:46 Cavalinho wrote:


No, I don't.

On June 27 2014 13:52 Cavalinho wrote:
Better question: why are you opening the same way you did back in that other game we played?

On June 27 2014 14:02 Cavalinho wrote:
Last time, you started asking "perfectly reasonable questions" and I wound up getting shot by a vigilante n1. >.>

Look, I don't think anything about those people yet. Palmar is being Palmar and sinani has like 3 posts. If you're expecting some hyper valuable information this early, you're going to be disappointed. I don't have any. I can't formulate reads or thoughts off of nothing.

On June 27 2014 14:10 Cavalinho wrote:
Nah, some other dude shot me. You were mafia that game and one of your partners came in and made me look like an asshole.

On June 27 2014 14:19 Cavalinho wrote:
ikr

Also, let's lynch Vivax.

On June 27 2014 16:42 Vivax wrote:
Kush looks scummy.

On June 27 2014 16:55 Vivax wrote:


This one felt out of context and just aggressive in a weird way for that early stage of the game, but since it was at an early stage I would be obligated to accept the explanation that it was a joke post if kush so pleases. He can also admit it was serious I don't know yet but I would like to know.



Plus I said hey kush earlier in the game after he said hi and posted nothing. The post from me went unnoticed and kush has been generally derping around a bit too much for my taste with the role pm reading stuff which gives me the impression he's not really following the game very closely and with interest.

On June 27 2014 11:45 kushm4sta wrote:
dont get cocky you are wrong all the time

On June 27 2014 17:06 mderg wrote:
I´m Italy, at least it´s not England.


It´s always interesting to see how some people have reads like these about 2 pages into the game with pretty much no content.


it´s not that remarkable at this stage of the game. Why would you think so?
I like how you´re trying to get this game going in a more serious direction.

On June 27 2014 18:24 Vivax wrote:


???

If I have no reason for that vote and that is so obvious, then I also have no obligation to post something to your liking. This argument says nothing. If I reply seriously you can say I panicked, if I reply with a joke post you can say I panicked.



It needs stirring up as I tried to express with the vocative post to Koshi. I don't see why you're posting this if not for the sole sake of making me look shit for no reason.




Come on, you could try a bit harder.

On June 27 2014 18:28 Koshi wrote:
WoW. I bring Vivax a cold glass of water and instead of being all cool and smart he is angry and ignores me.


Vivax. It doesn't matter what this evul Plammer is saying to you. We can find the mafia. Ignore the Plammer. He is bad. Or he is mafia. Right? RIGHT?

On June 27 2014 22:14 Koshi wrote:
I guess I explain myself better because I don't want to lose you gooby.

This is how I read the Cav post:
Cav was town in some game and a mafia buddy from OO made cav look bad. Cav is bitter.

Then OO replies with an insanely difficult sentence that looks fabricated like hell, it's a contradiction milshake:
OO starts saying he is town twice in 1 sentence on a different way: "I don't have any partners" and "unless you are town then you are my partner". and ends with "that won't stop someone from coming in to make you look like an asshole again, maybe mafia will oblige and you can nail them for it :D" This is an awkward joke and looks bad because in this sentence OO calls Cav town while in before he didn't have a clue if Cav was his "town partner"


How can OO have no partners when town are his partners?
Why does OO add that he isn't sure Cav is his town partner?
Why is OO saying Cav should vote people that are mean to him on this heuristic alone?
Why does the last part look like a buddying attempt "aka I am not mean to you, don't vote me"

Many questions. My head hurts. ObviousOne not so obvious at all. He mafia.

On June 27 2014 22:30 Koshi wrote:
don't be so mad bro.

On June 28 2014 22:27 Rainbows wrote:
Right now I'd lynch into OO, Haru, Cav. Mderg and Exo haven't done anything but whatever, if I lynch based on that again and they flip town im going to go straight to the nearest ravine and throw myself into it (I chickened out in Order, but I will really do it this time I promise)

OO's reaction to Koshi pressure was terrible, he hasn't given any other reads than his vote on Koshi, which was straight omgus. Claims that he's out trying to find his "town partners" but I haven't seen evidence of it so far. Scum because gives a lazy read on me for useless posts at the beginning of the game, promotes discussion (apparently) but doesn't seem to partake in it himself.

Haru also been fairly active but has refused to give decent reads on D1. He claims his meta is "I don't normally give reads D1", which is bullshit. His Koshi vote was very bad. First two reasons didn't make Koshi mafia, and third one was meh. Only bad feeling I have about lynching him is that I thought he was scum in order, but for different reasons and he flipped town. Don't want a repeat of that, if town might have to go ravine.

Cav wants to lynch between vivax and Palmar but completely forgot that he wanted to do that. Gave bad reads on both then didn't do anything. Came into the thread and 3 people instantly called him anti-town afterwards--a scum that's that bad? Maybe.

Still wary of Koshi. Responded well to questions in a townie way but lingering feels in my mind about evul koshi scum. But not lynch today.

Also wary of Palmar. Case on Vivax was OK for early game, but hasn't done anything to prove himself recently. Didn't like that he was building himself up as self-proclaimed super townie during the pressure on Vivax, seemed scummy that one would feel the need to do so. Votes Koshi for no reason and then disappears, no like Palmar atm.

Not sure how I feel about Kush. Hasn't done the signs I thought he would if he were scum. D2 learn more.

Most others leaning town for now.

On June 29 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:



Can anybody explain this?

On June 29 2014 01:44 ObviousOne wrote:
everything i've read from cav after my interview with him hasn't made me feel any good about him, i'm down for a cav lynch. i found him much easier to judge people when i'm not the one talking to him lol thanks for pissing me off koshi

##vote: cavalinho

On June 29 2014 02:00 IAmRobik wrote:

RAINBOWS COULDN'T BE MORE FUCKING TOWN IF HE FUCKING SHAT SKITTLES OUT OF HIS ASS

On June 28 2014 23:45 Holyflare wrote:


Palmar (0): Vivax, sinani206
Vivax (0): Palmar
sinani206 (4): mderg, HaruRH, IAmRobik, Cavalinho, Cavalinho, HaruRH, Tehpoofter, Cavalinho, Palmar
Tehpoofter (0): kushm4sta
kushm4sta (0): IAmRobik, Koshi, Cavalinho
IAmRobik (3): Cavalinho, Rainbows, sinani206, kushm4sta, Cavalinho, ExO_, Cavalinho, sinani206, Tehpoofter, Palmar
ObviousOne (2): Cavalinho, Koshi, Rainbows
Koshi (1): ObviousOne, HaruRH, Rainbows, Palmar
HaruRH (0): Rainbows, kushm4sta, kushm4sta
Cavalinho (1): kushm4sta, kushm4sta
ExO_ (1): kushm4sta, mderg, Vivax
mderg (1): Vivax


Not voting: Nobody!

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On June 29 2014 03:06 kushm4sta wrote:
oo that observation is so dumb it's townie

On June 29 2014 03:44 Rainbows wrote:


All ive wanted is your reads
on the vivax palmar interactions, on robik, koshi whatever. But you just fling shit for no reason. all you have to do is prove you are town if you are.

On June 29 2014 04:01 Rainbows wrote:
So OO how do you feel about Koshi now? You were sire that was the lynch.

On June 29 2014 04:08 sinani206 wrote:
its great that i'm still set to be lynched when thread sentiment is i'm town. <3

On June 29 2014 04:15 sinani206 wrote:


well i know i'm town and other people have said it.

lets make it thread sentiment.
is there an official way to do that?

On June 29 2014 04:31 sinani206 wrote:


That's not what I said at all lol

On June 29 2014 04:35 Rainbows wrote:
i dont really care just lynch a scummy fucker. differentiatin lg between scummy fucks is for mafia who wamt to lynch the town scummy fuck.

cav mderg both looknlike scum. sinani maybe but prefer other two. OO im interested where he runs too

On June 29 2014 05:59 ExO_ wrote:
I'd rather sinani over cava though so

##Unvote
Vote: sinani206

On June 29 2014 06:09 Koshi wrote:
Vigi on OO pls

On June 29 2014 06:24 kushm4sta wrote:


or maybe he made a choice with the small amount of information he had

On June 29 2014 06:25 Vivax wrote:


Activity excuses can be totally legit but to outsiders they always look shit for some reason.

On June 29 2014 06:29 Vivax wrote:


That was more of a reference that I have been busy multiple times for legit reasons and still got lynched for it cause people don't have that feeling of righteousness you have about the excuses for not being able to play the game.

isn't Cava's case more that he announced he wouldn't be around at deadline but still showed up when his ass was on the line or something like that?

On June 29 2014 06:41 IAmRobik wrote:


HEY. REMEMBER WHEN I SAID THAT EVERYONE SHOULD FUCKING CLAIM THEIR FUCKING COUNTRY. THIS IS WHY YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

On June 29 2014 07:28 kushm4sta wrote:


rob claimed cig

On June 30 2014 10:27 kushm4sta wrote:


I didn't read order, but the difference is here he feels very strongly about one of his reads. That is more townie than raging about town playing bad.

On June 30 2014 11:36 HaruRH wrote:


Wifom. I was pissed because everyone didn't understand that 1 game of meta cant be used, thus I switched up and got meta read.

This wagon on me by oo and kush is so telling.

Scumpool: cav kush oo exo mderg

3/5 is scum here

On June 30 2014 11:43 Tehpoofter wrote:


This is where I'm at in the thread but I hate this post. Its not long after OO votes on Cav who was voted on by Kush/Koshi... While kush/koshi are trying to push for votes on cav. OO is more concerned about explaining himself and not being seen as mafia than getting people to vote his scum read. Not a fan. Also Koshi calling him scummy at least 2-3 times I noticed...

Back to the reading.

On June 30 2014 11:46 Tehpoofter wrote:


Maybe your eyes are shitty and lol I looked at your next post and its what I wanted thanks for preemptively being townie.

On June 30 2014 11:50 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm going on an adventure into the korean music discussion thread

pray for me

On June 30 2014 12:47 IAmRobik wrote:

Man, I sitll am happy we killed him. Like dude was scummy as all fuck. I prolly wouldn't have jumped on him as hard and pushed as hard had it not been solidified by his unvote of me...that's when I said "oh man, this should be good" or something along those lines cause there was no way he could explain himself from voting me to unvoting me in that period.

On June 30 2014 13:50 IAmRobik wrote:

wtf you talkinga bout. I was talking about sinani...i thought you were kinda town

On July 01 2014 12:52 Cavalinho wrote:


OO, up until now I've taken your advice on whether or not Vivax was actually a good analyst. His day 1 was pretty good, but his day 2 filter thus far has been nothing more than mediocre. If all he can do is attempt to characterize my play, despite playing with me several times and knowing that this has happened before, then color me unimpressed.

On July 01 2014 13:20 Cavalinho wrote:
Also I'm baffled as to why Rainbows still wants to lynch me. -.-;

On July 01 2014 14:37 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't think people who called me town are scummy. I think that people who were like "ZOMG SO FUCKING OBV GUIZE" were scummier than people who voted for me...I guess I just don't know how to read people who are actually braindead enough to think that that was a slip from me. Jesus Christ that's mind blowingly dumb

On July 01 2014 15:46 kushm4sta wrote:
its the kushm4sta
the assblaster
the mind infiltrator
the mafia regulator

btw at lylo we are massclaiming and if shit looks fishy, cavo is getting lynched. he is so scummy . he's probably scum.

On July 01 2014 16:34 Tehpoofter wrote:


I didn't play scummy on purpose I was just inactive so not really anyone from that tbh. RObik caught some


OO do you like my reads?

On June 30 2014 14:29 Tehpoofter wrote:
Good news boys I'll fully caught up Yesterday's lynch was really interesting. I think flipping Cav could give us a lot of information but I'm actually on the believing his claim side of things.

Townville: Tehpoofter

Kush - Claiming vigi and actually seems to give a fuck this game, is reaching out to people in thread like myself to play up, never lynching.
Rainbows- I liked your posts midway through yesterday and today as well as your huge post in the night. My big question is why did you stay on Cav at EoD? I still don't think you'd be anywhere near my lynch list today.

Robik - Day 1 was super townie he was doing a bunch of stuff that looks scummy as fuck but from my experience with him is most likely to be town. I will say that him being scum in order surprised me so I moved him down today for a couple things in the fact that he is falling off a bit and he claimed the shot from kush before kush claimed it was his shot. Now I feel like if he thought there was only one mafia kill Palmer was less likely to be a mafia target than Koshi but still could have been a TMI slip
OO - He gets into the town because reading his posts anytime he did something I found scummy he followed it up with towniness. I even have a post where I thoguht he was scum then his next post put me at ease.

People who confuse me:
Vivax - His thing with Palmer early day 1 felt really scummy and I didn't really care for his EoD but his conversation he had with mderg mid day as well as others trying it seemed to talk to whoever about a couple of people felt less tunneled than he was being on Palmer. Maybe he just backed off staying tunneled on Palmer because I called him out or maybe he is town idk Cop check this person imo.

People that are really bad at playing cop or mafia:
Cav - If you're cop stop claiming on day 1 please lord. This feels like your newbie game when you had to claim and still got lynched. I am okay leaving you alive for now because if you're cop mafia might kill you or just spam rb and if you keep claiming rb and someone else gets rb you're basically confirmed mafia so even if you're mafia mafia is out their RB ability so town can do as they please basically.


People who need to have a date with a big fire:
Exo - This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where
Mderg - I always find mderg's play awkward and scummy hes in the same boat as Vivax in my opinion but I feel like vivax has done some townie things. Mderg has not his EoD was really weird I feel like he didn't really mind who got lynched. Which makes me think Cav is more town if Mderg is mafia.
Haru - Instantly comes out with the vote on Cav if it turns out Cav is mafia I feel like this is exactly what he would do. I also liked someone's point that it felt like he was going to transition from a cav red to an mderg lynch which is the kind of planning I feel like scum do more than town. I lynched him last game because of his playstyle so I'm most hesitant about this read.

I'm out for a bit playing dailymafia.

On July 03 2014 06:18 Tehpoofter wrote:


Same questions I asked Exo who is he with and why is he the best of those to lynch today?

On July 03 2014 06:34 Vivax wrote:


Why was I never aware of you scumreading me?

On July 03 2014 06:35 Vivax wrote:
Oh right cause you never did.

Scum spotted.

On July 03 2014 07:00 Vivax wrote:


That was reaction fishing, which is obvious in retrospect.
It's funny you believed it though cause he called the second check even before the night ended so he couldn't have it.

At the time I was thinking to myself that it could be a reaction coming from you knowing that Cav is mafia, and overshooting before even thinking about whether it was true.

Maybe that version of events is true, which is why now I'm talking to Cav to see if he is willing to ignore the evidence that townies so far seemed to doubt his claim more than some other individuals.

On June 29 2014 05:31 Vivax wrote:
Actually I think I'll put my vote onto Cava and not give a fuck about that claim.

Something stinks.

On July 03 2014 20:15 kushm4sta wrote:
OO GET THE FUCK IN HERE AND CLAIM PLEASE.

vivax you really think town only has 1 power role? If cav is scum and OO claims vt ,then that is what we are looking at. Yes it's possible, but I think it's unlikely enough that we should not be lynching cav today.

On June 29 2014 03:41 ObviousOne wrote:
I just need to say something. As with most of the times I've played, My mood is the most crazy thing about me. There's also always the challenge of being scrutinized by people who would rather just fling accusations instead of interrogate, which just pisses me off rightly. However, this game, it's a bit of both. Everyone who is calling me scum is doing it without an interrogation, which when I started this game I promised myself I was going to try to play that way. Doesn't look like that's going to work out this game, even with the small number of players, because 40 posts a day of content like that is just not possible for me without seriously cutting into my terraria time. Other than interrogation, my preferred method is just to be left alone to make observations and put them in the thread. Can't do that if you're just going to call me mafia without that conversation, so I just get pissed again. There's one thing you can do right now and it's this: Offer me questions about other people or stop calling me mafia. Really, that's it.

Capiche?

On June 29 2014 06:10 ObviousOne wrote:

Yes please shoot me, I am the doctor

On July 04 2014 01:04 kushm4sta wrote:
Ok cool now this makes more sense. Now we can lynch cav.

On July 04 2014 01:06 kushm4sta wrote:
Cav is not deff town. I doubt we have 3prs.

Why kill rob over me who is confirmed town? Cause scum knows we have another pr who might be a doctor

On July 04 2014 01:10 Vivax wrote:
Obvious explain exactly how your role works.

On July 04 2014 01:14 Vivax wrote:


Can you just be less wat for once and do some standard conversation.

On July 04 2014 01:06 kushm4sta wrote:
Cav is not deff town. I doubt we have 3prs.

Why kill rob over me who is confirmed town? Cause scum knows we have another pr who might be a doctor

On July 04 2014 01:42 kushm4sta wrote:
Why kill robik over me, conf town?

Cause they afraid of doc

Cause they know we have another pr

Cause cav is scum

On July 04 2014 01:44 kushm4sta wrote:
Way I'm looking at it, cav and poofter are definitely scum. Not sure who the last one is.

On July 04 2014 07:27 Tehpoofter wrote:
I'm here for the next 5.5 hours minus a lunch break so like we need to get some discussion flowing and make a plan. Lynch into the claims or the unclaimed.

On July 04 2014 07:50 Tehpoofter wrote:


I highlighted who I wanted to lynch and made it clear in the posts before that. I'm saying we need to make sure town is all in the same spot. I say its the best shot between Vivax/Rainbows/Haru you and Cav are a coin flip from my PoV. I won't lynch myself Kush or ExO. Did you even read my other posts?

Why didn't you claim at the start of hte day after you saw the night kill? You would have to know its lylo.

On July 04 2014 09:06 Tehpoofter wrote:


Its too many Pr's Kush is right about this its 1 between Cav OO most likely maybe kush pulled off a really amazing claim as scum vigi (It would explain his town read of vivax and scum read of me its not unjustified as I was afk a bunch but the fact he's not reading me as town now sucks) I don't think he did do that though.

The other 2 are between me you vivax haru and rainbows. For me I think its Vivax #1 then Rainbows/Haru. I tend to think that OO is more likely to be scum over Cav because of the fact that OO waited forever to claim a role after everyone else which was odd and doesn't seem to be involved but that could change.

On July 04 2014 12:51 Tehpoofter wrote:



Yep I have changed my reads a lot I do that as town cause I have to figure the game out I evolve with it. I think Someone is town or mafia depending upon the day and how votes are going. You have been consistently in my scum reads since day 1 I would say that is my most consistent read. I didn't like your interaction with Palmer. So I find it odd that you think evolving reads are some how scummy. Especially over the course of the game. I feel like as mafia you would see a clearer concise picture that only changed when it benefited someone how have my reads changing benefited me?


Also yes I'm done with the cav thing I have no clue his alignment because of the way OO is playing I assumed if someone claimed another PR they would claim it in a townie fashion and we would lynch Cav but OO could easily be mafia trying to get that doubt out there with the way he played it so my view on that has changed. Cav could still be mafia his absence as of late is very odd in that regard. (Although OO Haru Rainbows have all been equally uninvolved today) Also OO could just be claiming in a bad way as town but I didn't perceive this to happen so it changes.

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On July 04 2014 13:31 Vivax wrote:
Idk when I see obviousone posting that shit at mylo it does push me back to suspecting him.

On July 04 2014 14:03 Tehpoofter wrote:


So he wouldn't ever pander to your past knowledge of the smoking thing? Not something he would do as mafia?

lol.

On July 04 2014 14:27 ExO_ wrote:


poofter what was btw? Just you joking around?

On July 04 2014 14:30 Vivax wrote:
Well technically speaking he is scumreading him but not for the medic claim

On July 03 2014 15:46 ExO_ wrote:
If you aren't scum, then who is out of:

mderg (6): Tehpoofter, HaruRH, kushm4sta, IAmRobik, Vivax, IAmRobik, Rainbows

or do you seriously think I'm going to believe that 2 or less scum are in this list

On July 04 2014 14:43 Vivax wrote:


This is all from Exo's presumption that scum was on mderg and not on Haru cause haru is mafia in his eyes.
But yeah, I'm aware that he has only shown interest into pushing me, Haru and rainbows as possible scum.

If he and Poofter are scumbuddies, Exo is forced to react now, so sit back and enjoy the show as he abandons his aggressive push on me and starts "considering" that Poofter is scum.

At least I hope that it is the situation we're in.

As for people townreading you for no reason, point me to who you mean specifically cause I don't wanna sift through all filters to find out right now.

On July 04 2014 14:47 ObviousOne wrote:

was just wondering if that idea would trigger anything immediate

i'll peruse through in a moment it's not a ton of filters to check

On July 01 2014 12:58 Cavalinho wrote:
Poofter, do you actually have a decent read on me anywhere? I looked through your last three posts on me, and I see:

*A read where I'm the cop or mafia, which doesn't say anything.
*A read where you think I'm actually real.
*Your very next post, which includes me in your list of mafia suspects, despite saying you thought I was real not even a post ago.

Give me a read, and be straight with me. I want to know what you think.

On July 03 2014 06:41 Cavalinho wrote:


How do you have only one of haru/vivax?

Vivax's actions yesterday were pretty ridiculous. I'm still baffled as to why he was accusing me of trying to save mderg for towncred while he was voting to lynch mderg. If that's not a scumslip, I don't know what is.

And that's not even going into Haru's filter. The dude even fucked right off once his ass wasn't on the line anymore.

If we don't lynch either of these people I will be very upset.

Also your second set of reads is rather mediocre. Poofter is likely town.

On July 04 2014 15:37 Rainbows wrote:
Or we can occams razor it Rainbows and call it a day.

But what if the scumteam is scumvigi, and we have a cop/medic team and vivax is scum but kush looks like hes conftown so rest of town must sheep him and poof is town. Then suddenly the world comes crashing down like the moon from majoras mask.

On July 04 2014 15:49 Rainbows wrote:


Ill be honest mang oo im not 100% if u r totes town bit i like the poof lynch since hes on my list of 4 dudes to lynch today. if we dont lose right here then its probably going to come down between cav and you which sucks because its possible there are 3 prs and scum has like a gf and theres a hidden miller or some shit idk. then if we lynch scum again its down to a bunch of vanilla scummy fucks and i have to lynch correctly there cus the conf blues will get shot in da face.

So im kinda stressed out and i feel like towns fate will rest in my hands

On July 05 2014 06:05 Rainbows wrote:
im going back to getting laid. had to stop to see this flip

72 hour till next flip bleh.

On July 05 2014 06:13 kushm4sta wrote:
hmm would rainbows really interrupt sex if he already knew the outcome of the flip?

On July 07 2014 06:27 Vivax wrote:
Almost nobody is playing this game, helps scum and makes me sad
Just OO who said he didn't care seems to care the most atm.

Report in if you're around pls.

On July 03 2014 07:28 Cavalinho wrote:


Oh.

I sent kush in n1. You were my n2 check.

On July 07 2014 09:42 Rainbows wrote:
actually i'm literally hitler

On July 07 2014 11:29 Rainbows wrote:


Then I would ask: is OO actually scum?

On July 04 2014 15:06 ObviousOne wrote:
fuck i want to say exo - poofter - cav scum team, all have MEGA KOBE beef with vivax that doesn't make tons of sense and it's mylo?? i guess or lylo or whatever (fuck maths) so this could be the final turd squeezed out before the big town flush

On July 07 2014 15:00 Cavalinho wrote:
Why do people have Haru as town again?

Can someone remind like ten thousand more times?

On July 07 2014 15:54 Cavalinho wrote:
I don't see anything besides associative garbage between unflipped players.

I feel like people are keeping me from going in the basement. You ever play Half-Life 2? "We don't go to Ravenholm," or something like that.

That's what this feels like.

On June 30 2014 09:03 Rainbows wrote:


kushm4sta, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Vivax

This is a fucking retarded list to lynch into. Everyone I didn't list is either confirmed town or myself. And kush is probably the vigi.

Nope.

On June 30 2014 09:26 Rainbows wrote:


Love when someone does something scummy and just says it was sarcasm, trolling, whatever. WOULD PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD

On July 02 2014 10:36 Rainbows wrote:
More work tmrw so probably best to get these out now -- we most likely need to lynch scum tomorrow or game over, right? 9 alive right now. (3 v 6). scum kill 1 at night (3v5), then if mislynch + KP it's game over. If I die, listen to me. For God's sake, listen to me. I feel like I'm alone in this town after yesterday, and we need to get shit done tomorrow. Apologies for the wall of text but I don't feel like quoting anything and I'm tired so w.e.

Tomorrow.

Do NOT lynch Vivax if he is still alive. He is probably town, but has some pressure on him from people I'm finding scummy. I don't know for 100% if he is town, but he's the closest thing I can get to someone I can trust. If he is mafia, he will probably survive until 1v2 lylo where, if not dead, town will need to take a good look at him and decide from there. If he is lynched tomorrow and flips town, I will never forgive anyone who is town and lynched him because my read was correct.

IAmRobik

I've been heralding him as "too crazy to be scum" for quite some time -- and that heuristic rings true with most of the work I've done in mafia so far. Mderg did bring up a good point, though that his shenanigans (the 'fake slip, the fake claim vigi) haven't net us any mafia and have lynched town so far. With Mderg flipping town, I think that is something good to look at. Robik posting Liar Liar Liar to Mderg seemed a bit excessive to me at the time, and I also thought Mderg was mafia, but not for that reason. He's crazy, but mafia can be crazy. Still, f Robik is mafia, he's played extremely well. And I would condone him for it post game--he and Mocsta fooled me hard in Order, but that was a hydra. He is sure playing much differently than last game. I wouldn't lynch him tomorrow based on the change in meta imo, and that I hope my too crazy to be scum theory works out in the end. Again, more flips equal more analysis.

For the two above, the hardest thing to parse out between mafia play and town play is intention. It is impossible to know whether or not Vivax or Robik intentionally mislynch a townie. Once a scum flips however, hopefully the association and the "Did he really want to lynch scum X?" will guide us to them if they are mafia. For now, though, they are bad lynches.

Tehpoofter

I haven't looked at Banks the entire game. Vivax said something that I really agreed with, that Tehpoofter is the "closest thing we can get to a ghost" in this game. He has a bunch of pages in his filter which indicates activity -- but I can't remember most of what he's done this game. I know that he has voted on both mislynches. Voted Mderg early on when everyone was on Haru. Looking through his filter, I can't say his analysis on situations is terrible. But I can't say his posts are astounding either. Posting a lot but blending into the background, mislynching townies, a decent pick to be scum. He has also defended Cav, which I find bad because town has no friggen clue whether Cav is faking cop or not. Could be scum trying to keep his fake cop alive, or scum trying to buddy up the real cop. I don't think Cav's flip has any relation to whether Banks is mafia or not, but I do think that Banks is scummy for believing in the cop claim wholly on day 2.

ExO

Same goes for ExO. For some reason, he believes that Cav is the cop almost whole-heartedly. The reason I'm at the opposition of ExO / TP is partially because I'm seeing two camps. Me / Robik / Vivax + others who are really speculative on the issue of cav being cop, and ExO / TP who seem to accept it quickly. The issue of whether Cav is actually the cop or not is irrelevant, the issue arises when people are reacting differently to the claim. Most of us appear speculative of the issue, but these two seem to believe it for... what reason I can't tell. Mafia, regardless of Cav's actual alignment, have everything to gain by 'trusting' Cav. If he flips town, they were correct and look better. If he is mafia, then they are protecting their buddy. In addition, ExO has been exhibiting mafia characteristics all game, and the resistance to his lynch yesterday sucked eggs. His reads are really flipped from mine, and that difference in opinion alone probably means he is not the same alignment as myself.

Kush

Almost certainly the vigilante. No reason to not believe him at this point, and he's barely done the scumtell I've been talking about. Btw the scumtell I was looking for in Kush was really thinly-veiled reasons to townread other players. In Order he gave a sequence of posts that were like "x is town" "y is town" "z is fucking town" for no reason, and defended people (like Haru!) that I wanted to lynch. More credibility for calling people town, i guess, but not really done that this game.

Cav

Massclaim will probably sort this out TBH. If there are 4 total blue claims / flips then lynch Cav. 3 is possible in a 13 player game but meh idk. Unless someone claims cop, then really scrutinize that person because they should have claimed ages ago and might be mafia trying to mislynch the cop. I've been getting the scum feels from Cav almost the entire game. His reads on Vivax and Palmar were plain garbs at the beginning of the game. He has made promises and not followed up on them, seemingly done on purpose. He hasn't done anything since the start of the game to make me believe he isn't mafia, and if he is town, I'm willing to lose the game on a lynch on him. At least I could blame the loss on the grounds of a bad cop.

HaruRH

The lynch yesterday leaves me worried. I thought most of or all of the scumteam was on him. So I dnu, meta would suggest that he is town. Cav / poof both on him. Cav / poof / exo scumteam? Maybe OO. I haven't done any really hard analysis of Haru, which is terrible of me because he was a main wagon yesterday. My gut says town, scum don't like saying "I don't do reads on D1, fek off son" to a townie. That just creates pressure and puts the spotlight on. There are a few things I don't like about his filter, but for now, don't lynch tomorrow imo.

ObviousOne

I still don't know what was up with his Koshi read, he never answered me on that. Seems almost as ghost-like as banks. Activity went down the toilet D2, kinda parked his vote on Haru. Had one post I thought looked townie but other than that, I can't really tell. Not having a decent read on him into day 3 sucks.

By PoE, if my gut towns are town, then the scumteam lies in 3 of:

Cav
ExO
TP
OO

Two "ghosts", one genuinely scummy guy, and the scummy cop claim. Not bad if you ask me.

We lynch into that tomorrow, imo. Especially if I wind up dead tonight, you listen to this list. You lynch one of those guys. This is where we begin towns comeback, and as mafia are flipped then we re-evaluate our town reads if they don't die at night.