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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 27 2014 08:38 GMT
#241
On June 27 2014 17:28 ObviousOne wrote:
Palmar's anger at derp. Nice genuine post. Easy early town read.

I´m not sure, if that actually makes him town.
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
June 27 2014 08:39 GMT
#242
Disagree with the Palmar read, want to discuss the kush read, slight town on mderg.

It's 4:30 AM and I'll post more when I wake up.
Spectaticle
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
June 27 2014 08:53 GMT
#243
Koshi how caught up are you with the game?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 27 2014 08:54 GMT
#244
On June 27 2014 17:53 Vivax wrote:
Koshi how caught up are you with the game?

Completely. Nothing happened.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2014 08:55 GMT
#245
You guys need to lynch Vivax. He's claimed scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2014 08:57 GMT
#246
Koshi why are you not voting Vivax?
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 27 2014 08:59 GMT
#247
I AM BLIND TO VIVAX HIS IMPERFECTIONS.

Also he can't be scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2014 09:00 GMT
#248
He is mafia. I'll explain why.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
June 27 2014 09:00 GMT
#249
On June 27 2014 17:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 17:53 Vivax wrote:
Koshi how caught up are you with the game?

Completely. Nothing happened.


I disagree, I find OO's insights into kush noteworthy or at least worth being acknowledged, maybe for a later point when kush shows up and gives his replies.

Mderg is opinionated and I feel he's having a generic interest into the discussed, Cava says something that also gives me good vibes. On the other hand your post seems quite superficial.

Robik is Robik. We lynch him if he doesn't perform. I am going to ignore his early game and see if he keeps it up in the later stages. I am reading his posts to see if anything really good is in it though. There hasn't been.

mderg dnu. He is pretty lurk always. I think meta will have to be used later the day. I would encourage Mderg to post more. Less than 1 page are extra mafia points.

Kush derped early game in normal ass mafia. Really thought he was scum there. But he wasn't. We shall have to watch him. Closely.


What troubles me here is that you don't sound puzzled at all. Too generic for my taste and the last two end up with a "we'll see", you don't find Robik's not good posts to be worth of notice, or to discuss why his idea would be bad if you think it is bad.

Did HF make u scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
June 27 2014 09:01 GMT
#250
Oh lord, a challenger approaches!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 27 2014 09:02 GMT
#251
On June 27 2014 18:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 17:54 Koshi wrote:
On June 27 2014 17:53 Vivax wrote:
Koshi how caught up are you with the game?

Completely. Nothing happened.


I disagree, I find OO's insights into kush noteworthy or at least worth being acknowledged, maybe for a later point when kush shows up and gives his replies.

Mderg is opinionated and I feel he's having a generic interest into the discussed, Cava says something that also gives me good vibes. On the other hand your post seems quite superficial.

Show nested quote +
Robik is Robik. We lynch him if he doesn't perform. I am going to ignore his early game and see if he keeps it up in the later stages. I am reading his posts to see if anything really good is in it though. There hasn't been.

mderg dnu. He is pretty lurk always. I think meta will have to be used later the day. I would encourage Mderg to post more. Less than 1 page are extra mafia points.

Kush derped early game in normal ass mafia. Really thought he was scum there. But he wasn't. We shall have to watch him. Closely.


What troubles me here is that you don't sound puzzled at all. Too generic for my taste and the last two end up with a "we'll see", you don't find Robik's not good posts to be worth of notice, or to discuss why his idea would be bad if you think it is bad.

Did HF make u scum?

You do the thinking pls. I can only give you what I see. It is up to Detective Vivax to show me the way.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
June 27 2014 09:10 GMT
#252
Please don't be scum Koshi, it would be heartbreaking.

There is no dishonor in claiming scum to fight against the tyranny of hosts making us enemies in eternity.

If you aren't, we shall debate about the current subjects of interest. Even if you are it would be appreciated.

But let's await the wicked Icelander's deeds and postpone judgment in favour of insight.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2014 09:13 GMT
#253
On June 27 2014 06:35 Vivax wrote:
Reporting in.

##Vote Palmar


Looks innocent enough, a random vote in the RVS stage. Nothing really to go on there. However we all know the point of the RVS is to actually start some discussion. I immediately tried to force him to talk about his vote. I knew he didn't actually have an explanation for it, but he should then just say so. Instead he panicked and decided to joke around instead.

This on it's own isn't too much. Maybe Vivax is just an asshole who doesn't like trying to win as town. But his later contributions are far more damning. There is going to be a very clear theme in his posting from this point on.

The theme is: Ask questions, offer no explanations himself. This is the easiest shit to do in the world as mafia.

On June 27 2014 07:21 Vivax wrote:
Why so serious kush.

Is talking just to talk at this stage something that should be considered scummy?


Questions.

On June 27 2014 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 07:35 IAmRobik wrote:
1) Palmar town


why

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 07:35 IAmRobik wrote:
2) Sinani prolly maf


why

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 07:35 IAmRobik wrote:
3) Everyone claim your country immediately! This may seem insignificant now, but will prove very vital later in the game (i'll explain this part when it arises).

I'm Greece


why not explain it now


Notice how other people offered opinions when presented with sort of baseless reads. Cav immediately offered an opinion on the town-read on me. Vivax doesn't have an opinion, but he feels inclined to contribute so the simplest route to take is just to ask questions.

On June 27 2014 16:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 16:43 Koshi wrote:
Hi Vivax. I am totes town. Totes town. 100%.
I did my part. Did you do your part?


I was just waiting for you to join the party. That guarantees that all scum must have posted something already.

Don't you think activity needs some stirring up? Will you imitate the thread's frequent jokeposting tone since you're a latecomer or did you try to put your serious glasses on yet?


I wonder what Vivax's opinion on whether activity needs stirring up is?

On June 27 2014 17:11 Vivax wrote:
Some lemon juice and 2 spoons of sugar should do, Alfred.

Opinions on Robik's obsession with claims? Do you think it has the potential to give any benefit to either of the two factions?
Is mderg too lurky for his usual standard? (Oh hey, a new post, keep it up/ninjad)
Is kush derping indicative or not?


More questions, no conclusions or even insights into Vivax's thought process.




There is however a hole in my logic. Vivax has actually given us one opinion. This one here:

On June 27 2014 16:42 Vivax wrote:
Kush looks scummy.


and then followed up with this one here.

On June 27 2014 16:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 16:46 ObviousOne wrote:
On June 27 2014 16:42 Vivax wrote:
Kush looks scummy.

I'd like to hear why that is, if you don't mind, mister Vi Vax.


This one felt out of context and just aggressive in a weird way for that early stage of the game, but since it was at an early stage I would be obligated to accept the explanation that it was a joke post if kush so pleases. He can also admit it was serious I don't know yet but I would like to know.

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 07:16 kushm4sta wrote:
tehpoofter did i ASK YOU?

also why are you talking just to talk huh??

for those two things you get my vote


Plus I said hey kush earlier in the game after he said hi and posted nothing. The post from me went unnoticed and kush has been generally derping around a bit too much for my taste with the role pm reading stuff which gives me the impression he's not really following the game very closely and with interest.


Maybe I'm misreading the bolded, but it looks like Vivax believes that Kush hasn't read his role pm, which is contradictory to his opinion that kush is scummy, because someone who hasn't read his role pm is by definition not scummy, because he cannot be.

So either Vivax thinks Kush hasn't read the role pm and thus is not scummy, or he thinks he has read the role pm, and is thus scummy.

If we have a Vigi Kush should be shot. Not reading role pm on day one should be policy lynch, but Vivax is just juicier.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
June 27 2014 09:13 GMT
#254
If you see from the front, I'm Palmar.

If you see me from the back, I'm ???
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
June 27 2014 09:18 GMT
#255
Palmar that whole case is either a lot of confirmation bias or you're scum who picked a target.

I'm not excluding that it's cause you were genuinely pissed for a random vote but most of the content is just from your fantasy.


Notice how other people offered opinions when presented with sort of baseless reads. Cav immediately offered an opinion on the town-read on me. Vivax doesn't have an opinion, but he feels inclined to contribute so the simplest route to take is just to ask questions.


1. Using mderg and Cav as sample size for judging me but not anyone else posting here at this time is biased.

2. I contribute more to people I find interesting myself. I didn't make a judgment over your early behaviour cause you openly fucked off from the game and didn't give me enough to analyze based on the rvs. While others think they can get a conclusion from it I don't.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 27 2014 09:20 GMT
#256
On June 27 2014 18:10 Vivax wrote:
Please don't be scum Koshi, it would be heartbreaking.

There is no dishonor in claiming scum to fight against the tyranny of hosts making us enemies in eternity.

If you aren't, we shall debate about the current subjects of interest. Even if you are it would be appreciated.

But let's await the wicked Icelander's deeds and postpone judgment in favour of insight.

I am not scum. I wouldn't lie to you Detective Vivax.

I am seeing this case on you, it's not bad, not bad at all. Is he a wannebe Vivax or an evul minion of Moriarty?
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2014 09:20 GMT
#257
On June 27 2014 18:18 Vivax wrote:
Palmar that whole case is either a lot of confirmation bias or you're scum who picked a target.


I don't care what you think it is.

You don't want to play the game until you're forced to = you're mafia, or at best a destructive town => you die.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2014 09:21 GMT
#258
I'm going to channel my inner scumVivax for a second:

On June 27 2014 18:18 Vivax wrote:
1. Using mderg and Cav as sample size for judging me but not anyone else posting here at this time is biased.

Why?

On June 27 2014 18:18 Vivax wrote:
2. I contribute more to people I find interesting myself. I didn't make a judgment over your early behaviour cause you openly fucked off from the game and didn't give me enough to analyze based on the rvs. While others think they can get a conclusion from it I don't.

Why?
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
June 27 2014 09:24 GMT
#259
I knew he didn't actually have an explanation for it, but he should then just say so. Instead he panicked and decided to joke around instead.


???

If I have no reason for that vote and that is so obvious, then I also have no obligation to post something to your liking. This argument says nothing. If I reply seriously you can say I panicked, if I reply with a joke post you can say I panicked.

I wonder what Vivax's opinion on whether activity needs stirring up is?


It needs stirring up as I tried to express with the vocative post to Koshi. I don't see why you're posting this if not for the sole sake of making me look shit for no reason.


More questions, no conclusions or even insights into Vivax's thought process.

(...)

There is however a hole in my logic. Vivax has actually given us one opinion. This one here:


Come on, you could try a bit harder.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
June 27 2014 09:28 GMT
#260
More questions, no conclusions or even insights into Vivax's thought process.

(...)

There is however a hole in my logic. Vivax has actually given us one opinion. This one here:


A fine technique you have here.

First you say I don't give any opinions.

Then you claim all my contributions are just one opinion, effectively contradicting your previous statement but at the same time making it look like I'm lazy or disinterested.

Furthermore, you don't take into account my more recent opinions, which shows that the amount of opinions I give isn't as relevant to your read as you claim it is.
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