i was gonna be like "not with this filter length" but this filter length is actually kinda required to still be in the game
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ObviousOne
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i was gonna be like "not with this filter length" but this filter length is actually kinda required to still be in the game | ||
Rainbows
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On July 07 2014 11:35 Vivax wrote: It's possible for town to have those 3 PR vs. a RB, a GF and goon. Very balanced setup. I know this. However, On July 07 2014 09:33 Rainbows wrote: For the record, Vigi + cop + doctor is perfectly balanced for goon / RB / and either GF or framer to fuck with checks. The only reason we're voting into blue claims is because two of exo/vivax/haru as scum doesn't make much sense when you razor it out. I can't see ExO + Vivax team. Nor can I see ExO + Haru. Nor Can I see Vivax + Haru. Most of those are pretty unlikely teams imo. Therefore, one blue is probably mafia and the other red is between those three. | ||
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Vivax
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Just wanted to point out to you that the argument you used D1 on Haru here was bullshit, cause you said he was following YOUR sentiment, when he posted his stuff on Koshi before you. On June 28 2014 00:35 Rainbows wrote: All the pressure on Koshi, makes me not like Koshi lynch. Responded well to pressure. Don't like how Haru comes in and votes Koshi. First two quotes in his vote post mean nothing, the third is pretty meh. Seems like he's voting thread sentiment imo. Whenever I make a post and vote somebody and someone else casually drops a vote like that it makes me very uneasy. | ||
Rainbows
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On July 07 2014 11:41 Vivax wrote: Hey rainbows, good you're here. Just wanted to point out to you that the argument you used D1 on Haru here was bullshit, cause you said he was following YOUR sentiment, when he posted his stuff on Koshi before you. Oh yeah, I remember that. General thread sentiment was leaning against Koshi if I remember. He posted right before me as I made my koshi post. Obviously he wasn't following my sentiment, but the fact that haru made that vote as I was writing made me not want to lynch him anymore. | ||
Vivax
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Whenever I make a post and vote somebody and someone else casually drops a vote like that it makes me very uneasy. But this reads as if you said he posted it after you voted Koshi. but the fact that haru made that vote as I was writing made me not want to lynch him anymore. But you voted him afterwards. | ||
Rainbows
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On July 07 2014 11:48 Vivax wrote: But this reads as if you said he posted it after you voted Koshi. But you voted him afterwards. I didn't see haru's post until after I posted my post. Of course I voted Koshi in my own koshi post, but I didn't know Haru made that post while writing my own post that I was about to post. | ||
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Rainbows
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And Haru might be modkilled, so it's almost a 100% shot. | ||
Vivax
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On July 07 2014 11:52 Rainbows wrote: I didn't see haru's post until after I posted my post. Of course I voted Koshi in my own koshi post, but I didn't know Haru made that post while writing my own post that I was about to post. I don't get it. You didn't see Haru's post untiil after you posted against Koshi or against Haru? Reiterate for the other posts you're referencing pls. | ||
Rainbows
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On July 07 2014 11:56 Vivax wrote: I don't get it. You didn't see Haru's post untiil after you posted against Koshi or against Haru? Reiterate for the other posts you're referencing pls. I didn't see haru's ##Vote koshi post until after I posted my ##vote koshi post. | ||
Vivax
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Weird that someone wouldn't notice the correct post timing, but I'll run with the explanation for now. | ||
Rainbows
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On June 27 2014 23:25 HaruRH wrote: Koshi is weird. Strong scum push on kush, retracts it, goes onto OO and then condescends his way out of a push on him. nope. ##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi ^ I didn't see this post, when I made this post: On June 27 2014 23:35 Rainbows wrote: Think a good heuristic for this game is to learn from TL Order which went spectacularly horribly. In terms of Kush, Kush is now confirmed mafia in Order and I've spent a decent time reading his filter in that game. If kush is mafia, he will hopefully show some of the same signals. Koshi looks like mafia so far. Vivax asks him for his reads on these three players, Koshi basically responds "we have to watch them". Vivax asked specifcally about the claiming country stuff robik did but doesn't comment on it just said there hasn't been any good things robik has said. I feel like town would come up with some conclusion based on either robik or kush at least. Then Palmar makes case on vivax. koshi thoughts on case inc Doesn't come to a conclusion on vivax's actions. Does consider palmar 'not scummy', but only not scummy 'not for this case'. feels like wiggle room to call Palmar mafia in the future if it benefits him. But this is more interesting imo: I'm confused. AT one point the case on Vivax is "not bad, not bad at all" 8 minutes later it is "Plammer is bad, or mafia". Seems like a drastic change of opinion. When vivax asks about Koshi's opinion on the case (quoted earlier), Koshi replies that the arguments are good 'because they are true'. What does Koshi think? I can't tell. A lot of scatter opinions on the same topic of Palmar case. Reads scummy because, as town, he would know exactly how he thinks. As scum he tailors his opinion to the town. He also feels like he is buddying up to vivax in a lot of his posts which i only do if I have a hard townread on that person, but Koshi doesn't appear to have a super townread on Vivax, so why the buddying? If that looks confusing I just woke up. Main point is that Koshi changes his opinion on Palmar case, goes from --> Case is not bad --> Palmar is bad, or mafia --> arguments are good because true, it wasn't a bad case. He also sidesteps a read on robik and buddys vivax. ##Vote: Koshi evul koshi maf They are 10 mins apart, and I wasn't f5ing and stuff so I didn't see his vote post. After I made my vote post, I went back and looked at Haru's vote post, I didn't like it and it made me feel awkward about lynching Koshi. | ||
Rainbows
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On July 07 2014 11:59 Vivax wrote: So you're saying you believed Haru's vote to have been placed after yours. Weird that someone wouldn't notice the correct post timing, but I'll run with the explanation for now. No, I KNEW Haru's vote was placed before mine. Gah it's confusing to explain. In terms of realization, I realized that I had Koshi when making the post. Then I went back to read the thread after i posted and realized Haru voted for him badly (before me technically, but I hadn't realized it until then, after I had already voted.) It's so hard to explain correctly lol. | ||
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Vivax
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They are 10 mins apart, and I wasn't f5ing and stuff so I didn't see his vote post. After I made my vote post, I went back and looked at Haru's vote post, I didn't like it and it made me feel awkward about lynching Koshi. F5ing stuff was irrelevant cause he posted it before you, you already f5d that into the game when you hit the post button. You explicitly used the argument that he voted after you with weak arguments against Koshi. I just find it an odd mistake to make, and the explanation is even odder. Also I don't like it when people start only to argue based on possible scumteam combinations, based on connections, which is what you and Exo are doing, and what Poofter did. Which is why I asked you about your opinion on lynching Exo. You dodged it by listing combinations, but I have yet to see your real read on him. Listing combinations is a comfortable way of pretending to solve the game without actually having to find arguments for people being scum. I just find it very iffy how ExO abandoned you as scumread and accepted it so quickly that Cav gave you a town check, which is the reason I've started taking a closer look at you. | ||
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Then I went back to read the thread after i posted and realized Haru voted for him badly (before me technically, but I hadn't realized it until then, after I had already voted.) After you had already voted Haru? So that means you didn't realize he posted before you? After you voted Koshi? Then you wouldn't have written that Haru was scummy for posting vs Koshi after you. See where my issue lies? | ||
Vivax
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I got the feeling that no matter which filter I'm reading looking for scummy things, I start thinking that person is scum. When I see some of Cav's posts D1 it shifts me back to him. | ||
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