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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2014 19:26 GMT
#1652
I've bolded the parts that haven't been addressed

On June 28 2014 17:55 slOosh wrote:
I think you are scum because there is insufficient reason as town as to why you want to lynch Release over Koshi. I did not ask why you think Release is scum, I asked specifically why you wanted to lynch Release specifically over Koshi. All your stuff on Release could have been pulled from before last cycle yet never brought up, and Koshi has done even less of anything yet you are willing to overlook him. The only thing that has changed is that it is currently LYLO, and a scum YKZ would have tremendous reason to do this, while a town YKZ would have none.

You somehow value the words of town LM, yet totally disdain the words of town VE or town Artanis, both of whom had suspicions on the LM / Koshi / YKZ trio. Furthermore, you were the only one who had a town read on LM on something random you pulled out of his filter which is terribly non alignment indicative, but you used that as a means of leverage.

You totally tunneled and got bunnies lynched, never engaging in a proper mderg discussion.

The time you do jump into the discussion is way way late into D2, in which it does indeed look like a bus. You have not put into consideration the D2 vote analysis with as nearly as much weight as you should have, given that as town you should have known that it was a hotly contested lynch D2, given votes at 5-5, and thus very unlikely that scum bussed. Of course, you cannot do this because you are in a predicament where everyone on your wagon beside me is actually dead. If it was indeed a bus, it would make more sense that Koshi is more suspect as scum would try to milk it properly. The way that Release placed his vote was very much fluid and not as premeditated as Koshi was.

You thoroughly antagonized and tunneled VE and ultimately got him lynched without heeding word of Artanis at all. Could be BH arrogance, but more likely scum BH pushing his agenda under such pretense.

Additionally is your blatant misinterpretation of D2 of Release's votes. He backed off because you were posting stuffs and mderg was not. If anything, the body of evidence you produce indicate that Release is more likely to be town than scum for it, but you are brazenly pushing the contrary.


Fact is BH, you play good scum. You play really good scum. As you would yourself admit. In fact, scum BH would do a tremendous job at potentially looking like town BH, or just outargue people with words and posts and feels (not necessarily logic) when that fails.

Chezinu basically confirmed town.

So leftover is Release and Koshi and you.

I don't know them too well, but I heavily doubt Release & Koshi's scum game are capable of what has been accomplished in this game by scum, and that's just on paper.

Bravo BH. Perhaps with more scum-capable players alive you could have swayed me. But this work could only have been done by you. Your reputation will be your demise.

-roll credits-


You come over here and discuss my concerns, not dismissing them all and talking about something I find not only lackluster but straight up twisted and convoluted. "mderg getting lynched" "scum voting counterwagon for no reason". Garbage argument.

Also Chezinu please, like either YKZ or Koshi is fine with me, we just need the votes on the same people at deadline. Are we doing Koshi today or YKZ today?

Likewise for Release.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2014 19:33 GMT
#1653
And yes Koshi is scum for not caring about the game one bit even at LYLO while happily playing in another mafia game.
Your sudden flip flop of specifically wanting to lynch Release over Koshi is giveaway.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2014 19:36 GMT
#1654
Gonna play follow the Chez now. It's our only hope.

##Unvote YouKnowZhou
##Vote Koshi
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2014 20:39 GMT
#1659
Yup yup, no need to convince me. Chezinu can we please vote YKZ today? Pleeeeeasseee??
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 02:02 GMT
#1672
Blue...Green...Red...Black.

Long ago, the four colours lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the Red Nation attacked. Only the Unizehc, master of all four colours, could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Unizehc named Chezinu. And although his brown skills are great, he still has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe Chezinu can save the world.

Baaaaammmm

Baaa baaa

Baammmmmm

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 04:17 GMT
#1678
?? when?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 04:23 GMT
#1679
Oh. I don't know how that happened. Lynch was happening and I was just collecting votes.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 05:18 GMT
#1680
Plz Chez, I was on the wrong lynch once b/c bunnies, once sort of b/c YKZ is scum and once b/c I believed in the rule. Am I not supposed to believe in the Rule???
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 05:21 GMT
#1681
Also packages was b/c I thought VE was cop, so I was curious to know the checks. Context is me trying to sneaky chat VE.

Chez we can still be team! I believe!
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 06:22 GMT
#1683
I remember (just kidding I cheated).

I do not know why mafia didn't kill me. I'm guessing because I was defending mderg or maybe they were bluesniping?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 21:11 GMT
#1684
I've been playing this game all wrong.

##Unvote Koshi
##Vote YouKnowZhou


Koshi lynch / bus YKZ, you will be so cool.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 21:17 GMT
#1686
Also, Chez, please kill YKZ, it will be more fun that way.

Also, I figured out why I wasn't dead n1.
Goodkarma -> Goodkarma -> Scum trying to spell Gosu. But they failed.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 21:20 GMT
#1688
So you didn't respond to my post but you were watching thread whole time? Ok.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 21:28 GMT
#1690
On June 25 2014 21:04 Koshi wrote:
WoW. the points in your case are all filler or bullshit. WoW BH...

1) With the first quote you should also add that in the start of the night I wanted to lynch VE. But then Artanis said something smart and I agreed with it and said SloOsh/LM was better. However, it is not that my VE suspicion on D3 came out of nowhere like you appear it to be.

2) So now were are quoting posts that make sense. Useful. This is 1/3rd of your case already and nothing happened.

3) You are not reading the thread BH, I explained why I asked that question to LM about VE. That entire "transition" moment in your case on me is wrong. Kinda sad because the reasoning for my question is in the thread. Halfway your case and still nothing.
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 04:47 Koshi wrote:
No wait. In his reads on N1 post LM said that his top scumreads were Koshi/VE and then after rereading D2 he said SloOsh/Koshi.

So I said "Why is VE mafia not mafia" because something must have happened in his rereading. Because he sticked to all his other reads but VE didn't get mentioned again. I wanted to see a reaction.

LM then dodged this question and his promised big post later he again to explain everything but then when he explained everything he against flipped SloOsh and VE around and was more scum on VE again and the reasons to why SloOsh was scum during his reread was minimized to "SloOsh is scum for being on the wrong wagon" and "general voting".


4) Yes, I followed your big case on VE. It was a good case. I also followed your case on mderg and it fueled that lynch. Is there a difference between how I followed this case and how I followed mderg case? Is there scum motivation? If it is the same, why were you town on me till it was clear VE or me were going to be lynched D3? Again. I also want to add I wanted to lynch VE before. This case just made my desire to lynch VE strong again. Like... What is scummy about this: I think x is scum ---> Somebody says x is not scum because y ----> I agree and say x is probably town ---> Somebody else says x is scum for reasons abcd ----> I think x is scum again. It shows town mindset imo and not scum.

5) Artanis wanted me to do something and because I couldn't add more to your VE case I wanted to make a general "how to win this game post". In this post I wanted to write quick reasons to why VE/LM/Sloosh were scum. When I got to LM his filter I quoted posts which showed he was clearly following the thread but choose not to comment on Mderg/VE but just kept pushing me. I got distracted from my original goal and pressed send when I was done with LM. Pretty sure I wanted to interact a bit around this case but it didn't happen. The part about VE was because I had VE/LM as most likely scumteam since I voted VE and it seemed less likely after reading LM filter. I AGREE that it was a bad post. You should think could town Koshi have made it? Pro-tip: The answer is yes.


Your case is bad BH. Try again? I want you to try again.

Koshi remember this? Please remember this.

KOSHI
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 22:11 GMT
#1694
I'm not 100% sure yes, but I am reasonably sure.

You still won't engage me in proper discussion on my terms and are setting up strawmans that don't really have anything to do with alignments. I'm not interested when "talking" means "distracting chatter".

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 22:19 GMT
#1696
B/c I've been wrong a whole bunch of times? Seems straightforward.

And I actually have no idea how you play as scum, I'm just aware of the reputation that BH plays a decent scum game.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 23:03 GMT
#1706
Whatever, Koshi peaced out so there's a chance he might not even be reading anything.

But if you are,

KOSHI VOTE YKZ
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 29 2014 23:46 GMT
#1711
Man ... if I didn't switch we'd be lynching BH
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 30 2014 00:02 GMT
#1719
Can I find out who is the scum team please?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 30 2014 00:03 GMT
#1722
Do you realize I still have no idea what just happened? Is it Koshi Chez?
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