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On June 16 2014 12:30 YouKnowZhou wrote:


Look at all the scummy stuff I've posted since my original post. Any real townie would be all over me for things like "I'm allowed to lie" and my blanatant lying etc but all YKZ is on is my OG post because he is scum. Any real townie would be all up on dis, think about it

On June 16 2014 12:26 Snickers wrote:
So far I am leaning towards 27nb as scum. Although i said the kenpachi rule is useless, now that i understand it better, it does have some merit. It seems like for a scum to claim VT first day would be a tactic that would be stupidly selfish, since it would most likely hurt the whole scum team. It seems like a tactic only a bad scum team would use. (But how would a scum team know it had a disadvantage. Maybe with poor roles? Maybe by meta? I do not think a scum team would plan to use the kenpachi rule to their favor.) 27nb has not really commented on the kenpachi rule and is just dismissing it.

Also i am not voting for her yet.
Only eight out of the twelve players have posted so far, so it seems too early.

My reads for other players so far.
Artanis, sloosh and Ve have not said much so no read.
goodkarma seems to be playing standard. Nothing really sticking out at me for now. Maybe I will reread his posts.
Chezinu has a high ratio of text to information. Seems weird but it only the first day. I do not think this information is sufficient enough to even mention the s word.
YKZ seems to be a very knowledgeable player.

It seems for a stupid tactic for two scum to call each other out day 1. It seems like something that would be a risk that would be hard to get payed back on. Am i right about this? Another reason i am leaning towards 27nb, is if she is shown as scum, YKZ would then almost be proven as a town player and we would have a knowledgeable town player and only two more scum to hunt. Hopefully we could then protect him. I would not like to lynch someone with one of my two points being. "If we lynch her and shes a scum it will help a lot" because she still has a fair chance of not being scum. Also time is really precious for town so voting for such a long shot reason would show that town has bad chances after day one.

Please comment on my thoughts

On June 16 2014 12:37 Snickers wrote:
Also we have to vote before 8 p.m. Eastern time right? I am somewhat confused with how it says 3:32 for my post and it says 0:00 for the starting of the game post. Is this a feature of mafia?

I know the host said something about a timezone and also said he will be using his timezone, but i think it would be nice for us players to state the U.S. time day 1 ends, since so many of us are for the U.S.

On June 16 2014 12:36 YouKnowZhou wrote:


I mean, if a guy is making a case on me (you're not, but 27nb is), why ignore all the weird shit I said after my first post? Or the fact that I like abjectly lied to the thread with intent to decieve? This is not the behavior that someone actually trying to hunt scum and thought bh was scum would exhibit after voting bh.

On June 16 2014 12:43 slOosh wrote:

Wait. So if bunnies did a "proper follow up", what would you have done? "oh it was a trap all the scummy things I did ignore that"?

On June 16 2014 12:51 Snickers wrote:


Thanks for commenting. I actually had wrote a similar thing to your first statement then quoted over it and then proceeded to say Fuck it lets do it live.

But yea I am saying I am leaning towards 27nb, especially now because her posting seems off to me. I was trying to show the pros of lynching her if for some magical reason we have no better person to lynch by night time. I was attempting to conclude that it would be horrible for town to do that. (it would be horrible to pair them and rely on one as scum, one not when both could be townies.) thanks for clearing my statement up

On June 16 2014 12:56 Chezinu wrote:
After thorough analysis, I have concluded that Chezinu does not have a weapon and therefore should not be the one to confront The Sheriff.

On June 16 2014 13:10 Release wrote:
The way in which the Kenpachi rule is explained Without a blatant display of humor, a vote on a vt claim comes almost always from a scum player (and the subsequent explanation), a vote due to the Kenpachi rule entails that the vote on the claimed vanilla townie be due to the claim of vt. However, 27bunnie's vote on you is completely independent of your claim of vanilla townie (if you removed you vt claim, 27bunnie would still have voted for you).

On June 16 2014 17:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I find this discussion about YKZ/27nb and its origins really boring and I can't believe we've written so much about such bullshit. Biggest perpetrator of it is Release. He's just rehashed everything that's already said but made it more wordy.
##Vote Release

On June 16 2014 22:11 VisceraEyes wrote:

I kinda like this vote. And I kinda like Artanis' face.

Release sounds a lot like he's trying to justify feeling the way he does rather than explaining honestly WHY he feels the way he does. Does anyone else think so?

On June 16 2014 22:45 goodkarma wrote:


I agree Release is looking scummy, but I wouldn't use that exact wording. He seems heavily invested in his case, but is only leaning towards ninja's side of this debate. These two statements especially didn't sit right with me from Release's post on 21:10 15 June 2014:

"As the situation between 27bunnies and YKZ currently stands, I am leaning on the side of 27bunnies."

And yet he ends this same post:

"I think 27bunnie has the right idea, but has not manifested clearly (or in enough detail) what needs to be said to properly incriminate YKZ."

Release doesn't seem that interested in what may develop from YKZ. He already has the verdict in mind... This is a HUGE inconsistency from how he starts his post.

On June 17 2014 01:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:


You have a point here I really like.

Which makes me wonder if scum defending a town here.

He's not even considering in what YKZ could or could not do.

But then if that's the case, and Release is scum, then YKZ is town, and I don't like that.

I really really want to be right that YKZ is scum.

On June 17 2014 02:49 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@Sloosh- associations are actually good. Here's why. Mafia are a team. More likely, they should be working as a team to push mislynches. Unless they completely distance themselves and try to do it on their own (which is stupid imo). So finding connections within players is good. Theories, if backed up by evidence, s good. That is just my theory.

On June 16 2014 12:46 slOosh wrote:
I can see a somewhat reasonable case to be made that bunnies is not a stellar townie, but I don't see the case being made that she must be scum. Why isn't she "bad" town?

On June 17 2014 03:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Release made a giant post about stuff that was really boring so I didn't get very far in it. The first part is definitely rehash. You're right in that he did add some original content afterwards though. Wordiness being alignment null is debatable but that debate wouldn't go anywhere so let's agree to disagree on that.

On June 17 2014 03:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:

Cause I'm not bad.

Or atleast I don't think so. But then again I'm biased towards myself.