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Artanis[Xp]
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But at this stage, I feel that the final 2 remaining scum are almost certainly in VE/Lazer/BH. I know that unflipped associations are bad, but I feel that VE and BH cannot possibly be on the same team. (Does anyone else agree?). I completely disagree. I think both BH/VE are town or scum, with an outside chance of BH being scum and VE town. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On June 24 2014 06:02 Release wrote: Both town: You think that they would ignore each other to such a great extent? Both scum: You think that they would create this bus on each other and stick with it for this long? Both town: What do you mean with ignoring each other? They've been posting a ton about each other. Both scum: Yeah. VE's done it before, see LI where VE and Toad had a bus that would put this one to shame. | ||
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On June 24 2014 06:18 Lazermonkey wrote: Artanis and Release, you are spending far to much effort on associations between unflipped players. I'm back and I agree with this. So does anyone have an actual good reason why Koshi is town? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On June 24 2014 06:51 Koshi wrote: Want to talk with me? Why do you consider VE town when you don't know Lazer's alignment and VE has acted, in your opinion, scummily in his own right? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On June 24 2014 06:54 Snickers wrote: Koshi is town because of how bad his play continual is. Look at his first scum reads as me release and somebody else because we did not vote together. He's not pushing the thread or helping much but what do you expect from a bad town player. More on this later. Your argument fails because Koshi is a good town player and a decent scum player, though he hates playing scum so I'd expect his play to be more variable in that regard. | ||
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On June 24 2014 07:24 Chezinu wrote: If VE is town, then all mafia voted bunnies Day 1. Snickers and Lazer could still be mafia, though I'm quite certain it's not snickers and it's probably not Lazer either, they're still options. Plus, I don't think it's impossible for all mafia to vote bunnies on D1. | ||
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Sorry Kurumi ;_; | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On June 24 2014 07:36 YouKnowZhou wrote: Absolutely. Do you want it in one paragraph or one page? A short paragraph per point that you think proves that he's scum would be nice. Not the fluff, just the strong arguments. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On June 24 2014 07:46 Koshi wrote: I cannot be mislynched. You're right in that  | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On June 24 2014 07:56 Koshi wrote: remove your tunnel please. Doesn't it just make more sense if I am town? Your appeal to emotion bores me. Also, I'm not that certain you're scum, just that you're my biggest scumread in absence of others. It was just too funny to not take out of context. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On June 24 2014 08:04 Koshi wrote: Well man... I need to sleep. Allow me to go to bed please. I'm going to play to the best of my win condition. If that means trying to get you lynched, then I will. Looking at the gamestate it's unlikely that's going to happen though. | ||
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On June 24 2014 08:13 Koshi wrote: I gave this thread everything. I am in bed hopefully sleeping. pls Artanis pls Emotional appeal does not help. I still believe in a mass exodus onto Koshi. Is there anyone that has a townread on him that isn't based on something factually wrong (his townplay being bad)? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On June 24 2014 08:18 Lazermonkey wrote: I wouldn't be super sad about Koshi dying but as it seems like VE is just much better to lynch today. Look at VEs filter this last hour. Its so non-commital. Exactly what you expect from dying scum. Maybe your average scum, not VE scum. VE scum either actually fights the lynch or just leaves the thread. VE town rubs it in everyone's face that he's the wrong lynch. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On June 24 2014 08:22 Lazermonkey wrote: So I don't really have time to look through massive amounts of games to check if this is true or not. But if it is then not lynching VE may be the correct thing to do. Though I don't really think that. I could be wrong, this is from memory. I remember marv catching VE in a hydra game I hosted a while back and VE just checked out of the game entirely. I've also seen him in I believe it was the shadow game I hosted where he stressed about how he was the wrong lynch as town. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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BH, can you imagine a scenario in which VE has simply played poorly rather than being scummy? His anger struck you as fake, but could be a genuine response given your antagonistic beginnings and the frustration erupting from that. Checking in from your phone is possible, I do it sometimes too and you can not have the time to really interact but still want to be there. I think your point regarding the voting of mderg holds water and I would like to hear VE respond to it. VE being low energy is common nowadays, the waffling to see who is easiest to lynch is a subjective statement. He could also simply be evaluating his reads. The town discussion point is also up for debate. Anti town does not equal scum. | ||
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On June 24 2014 08:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Frankly if it helps get BH lynched I almost prefer if I get lynched if people are this certain I'm mafia. If I don't die people will just continue to make bad associative reads based on my alignment. Is self-voting allowed? Let me off this crazy thang. I am not going to lynch BH regardless of your flip. I think your read on him is wrong, so stop martyring and fight for your goddamn life. It's not pro town to waste a lynch on a town player when we could be lynching scum. | ||
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