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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 00:25 GMT
#1259
Yeah I am not joining this lm train.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 00:30 GMT
#1265
On June 24 2014 09:27 slOosh wrote:
D2, when he was super busy, the time he had he chose to pursue Koshi.

It is clear from his filter that nothing from N2 or D3 has impressed him thus far. However, when a VE wagon arises, Lazermonkey suddenly starts having qualms about lynching Koshi. When pressed for reasoning, he first refuses to quote the posts. When pressed again, he links them without explaining why. Furthermore it looks like he just grabbed random quotes from Koshi's filter, and really I don't see how it could possibly be enough to be like, "oh that Koshi read I've had for a super long time and I've wanted him dead for a super long time? Yea, nah I don't wanna vote him"

But he lynched me anyway?? What are you saying? I was dead. Overtime saved me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 00:31 GMT
#1266
KOSHI IS NOT MAFIA.

believe it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 00:36 GMT
#1275
He hasnt...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 00:41 GMT
#1285
VE you cant fucking flip town. Scum wins then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 00:42 GMT
#1287
On June 24 2014 09:41 slOosh wrote:
Koshi I make more sense when you consider VE town. If you don't, then I guess I'm not making so much sense.

I am not scum man. I am not scum...... true story. 100%
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 00:43 GMT
#1289
On June 24 2014 09:42 slOosh wrote:
Koshi we can still do this. Lynch BH tomorrow.

Dont vote me. I am not scum pls.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 00:47 GMT
#1295
Scum won. I cant believe this. Everybody can be scum really. I have no reads anymore. I also dont care anymore.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 09:09 GMT
#1308
On June 24 2014 10:15 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 09:47 Koshi wrote:
Scum won. I cant believe this. Everybody can be scum really. I have no reads anymore. I also dont care anymore.


So if koshi was posting more posts like this I would think he is scum. And i highly doubt there is a vigilante in this game if he has not shot his bullet yet.

I might have been a bit emotional there.

Man, I am so tired, slept for 4 hours.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 16:00 GMT
#1311
Great, looks like another day fighting this unholy tunnel. Thx for sucking all the fun out of this game for me Artanis. It's really sad that you keep calling me scum for being "bad". It's the only reason you give and it is pissing me off. I make cases in which I believe. I believed in VE as scum and I believed in Lazermonkey as scum. Yes I wrote more words about Lazermonkey as scum in my big post and didn't vote him. Who cares? I was still on the fence who was the better lynch and was awaiting some feedback. Also more words don't mean I think he is more scum. I did the same thing in the ongoing big game and people gave me crap for it for some strange reason there as well. Like... It is forbidden to make cases and then not vote the guy? What is the scum motive? Why would I give out multiple reads while I was sitting cozy on the VE wagon? I am pretty sure I didn't have a vote back then. Maybe LM was on me. I believed in the VE lynch. I believed in a Lazermonkey lynch. I made that clear. I gave 6-7 reads in that post and nobody interacts with me about it. Just all call it "bad" and that's it. Really nice. I gave reasons to why I believed LM was scum. NOBODY says shit about that ofc. Just "Koshi is so bad"

I checked the lynch while in bed and saw the vote switch and thought I was dead. I call gg but Jeebus gave me 40 more minutes to fight my lynch so I did. What did you expect me to do? Make giant cases on my phone while in bed? Really, what you want me to do is so unrealistic and fucked up. I fucking fighted 40 minutes while I should sleep so I wouldn't get misslynched and what is my reward. You being pissy about it and still calling for my head without any consideration. What the fuck do you want me to do? Really? Copy my role PM? Is that it?

I have done at least as much as other people around here. So judge me on my content, interact with me, do whatever you need to do. But stop this retarded shit by calling "bad" and calling my play "lacking" while I am staying up till 3 AM to prevent my own lynch. That's fucking effort.

And look at what you have been doing. WoW. Tunnel a townie the entire day. GOOD JOB!!! I am pretty sure that everybody on my yesterday even said I was not their main scumread except yourself. Doesn't that say something??? Lazermonkey eventually voted VE, Sloosh said I wasn't scum, VE wanted to lynch lazer over me. Sure.. I was "scum" enough to vote me. Where are these cases on me?

What did Koshi do:
1) I replace in this game x hours before lynch while Belgium just played and I had a party. I followed thread sentiment. Why am I even getting crap for this?
2) My first post was about how we should look into the people who didn't vote the misslynch bunnies. As if all scummers sit on a misslynch like that. What did you people do? Ignore me, called my questions bad, voted/blamed me for doing nothing. Yes, I could have been more vocal, but I just replaced in and was just meh, pretty sure I had also a lot of work that day and I somewhat neglected the thread early D1. My mistake. Koshi always needs to spam and be crazy.
3) Voted scum. Yes. That counts. Without me you had no mderg lynch. Look at my past games as scum (GoT, SMB, Glory Seeker) I have NEVER bussed a teammate. I always gave them townreads or not voted them one way or another. This game I joined the mderg lynch when it was hot and I didn't leave it for a BH lynch or VE lynch. This is not scummy. It doesn't matter if I couldn't leave the mderg lynch in the very end. I could have left it early and mid. I didn't. I didn't try. I was still pretty low on care level but I was on the right fucking lynch. I could jsut as easily been on a VE/BH/w.e lynch. I was fucking pushing people that didn't vote bunnies early D2. Why would I then vote mderg as scumbuddy??????
4) I make a post about why I think LM is scum. What do people do? Ignore the points, says it is bad, I should have voted LM with such a case, vote me. Maybe tell me my points on LM are bad, interact about them. Dnu...
5) I fight for my fucking life. See how I fought for my life in SMB. Went afk the entire day and then posted baby seals. See how I fought for my life in GoT mafia. I was scared and didn't dare to post anymore. rayn carried my fucking ass. The last scum game I was never in danger because I was in control so that was pretty sweet...


... Need to travel home.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 19:42 GMT
#1320
On June 25 2014 04:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 04:16 slOosh wrote:
A strong mutually antagonistic posturing against each other.

You might be right. I think BH can be scum as well. Tunneled on two townies now. Also, some more stuff on Koshi:

Start of D3:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. Lazermonkey wasn't there during the lynch. Then suddenly right before lynch he comes in and votes on Bh while on D1 he was against a bunnies lynch but still voted her. Why consolidate D1 but not D2? He also didn't do anything D2 but tunnel town for doing nothing.

I agree with Artanis that VE is town from mderg filter. I was a bit too focused on the mderg scumread into voting BH earlier. It would be pretty insane scumplay to buss each other with big cases into moving away from each other right before lynch.

For me scummers are: Lazermonkey/Sloosh


First time he mentions VE after that:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 03:15 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:11 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:08 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:05 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:02 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 02:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
SlOosh

Wouldn't I push you harder if my second scumread was my scum teammate?

I think this logic is pretty terrible.

I agree.

Wat.

I honestly don't understand what your trying here. Nevertheless, I am done with you for the moment. If you truly are town then you have better things to do.

1 more Question.

Why is VE not mafia?

No evaluation. Calls VE town, then suddenly asks Lazer why VE is not mafia. There were no cases in between on BH for Koshi to re-eval, nor did Koshi mention anything about re-evaluating VE. He was interacting with Lazer at the time, considered VE town then suddenly wonders why Lazer doesn't think VE is mafia.

If there's anything in Koshi's fluffy post you want me to respond to I'll be happy to do so, but I don't see an added value for taking it apart piece by piece as a lot of it will be discussing non-alignment indicative things. The entire post is filled with nothing to push town forward and is full of emotional appeals that are frankly disgusting. If you can't handle the heat of someone calling you scum don't play the game.

I asked that because in Lazermonkey his filter he said the entirity of D1 that VE is scum. Then he said SloOsh was his top scumread and I wanted to bait him saying something strong about VE and therefore said "Why is VE not scum?". To bait a strong reaction. Not because I thought that VE was scum.

That's how I scumhunt.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 19:47 GMT
#1323
No wait. In his reads post LM said that his top scumreads were Koshi/VE and then after rereading D2 he said SloOsh/Koshi.

So I said "Why is VE mafia not mafia" because something must have happened in his rereading. Because he sticked to all his other reads but VE didn't get mentioned again. I wanted to see a reaction.

LM then dodged this question and his promised big post later he again to explain everything but then when he explained everything he against flipped SloOsh and VE around and was more scum on VE again and the reasons to why SloOsh was scum during his reread was minimized to "SloOsh is scum for being on the wrong wagon" and "general voting".
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 25 2014 09:13 GMT
#1368
Chez just give us your checks please. I don't think 2 town medics is possible. Sounds really imbalanced.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 25 2014 12:04 GMT
#1373
WoW. the points in your case are all filler or bullshit. WoW BH...

1) With the first quote you should also add that in the start of the night I wanted to lynch VE. But then Artanis said something smart and I agreed with it and said SloOsh/LM was better. However, it is not that my VE suspicion on D3 came out of nowhere like you appear it to be.

2) So now were are quoting posts that make sense. Useful. This is 1/3rd of your case already and nothing happened.

3) You are not reading the thread BH, I explained why I asked that question to LM about VE. That entire "transition" moment in your case on me is wrong. Kinda sad because the reasoning for my question is in the thread. Halfway your case and still nothing.
On June 25 2014 04:47 Koshi wrote:
No wait. In his reads on N1 post LM said that his top scumreads were Koshi/VE and then after rereading D2 he said SloOsh/Koshi.

So I said "Why is VE mafia not mafia" because something must have happened in his rereading. Because he sticked to all his other reads but VE didn't get mentioned again. I wanted to see a reaction.

LM then dodged this question and his promised big post later he again to explain everything but then when he explained everything he against flipped SloOsh and VE around and was more scum on VE again and the reasons to why SloOsh was scum during his reread was minimized to "SloOsh is scum for being on the wrong wagon" and "general voting".


4) Yes, I followed your big case on VE. It was a good case. I also followed your case on mderg and it fueled that lynch. Is there a difference between how I followed this case and how I followed mderg case? Is there scum motivation? If it is the same, why were you town on me till it was clear VE or me were going to be lynched D3? Again. I also want to add I wanted to lynch VE before. This case just made my desire to lynch VE strong again. Like... What is scummy about this: I think x is scum ---> Somebody says x is not scum because y ----> I agree and say x is probably town ---> Somebody else says x is scum for reasons abcd ----> I think x is scum again. It shows town mindset imo and not scum.

5) Artanis wanted me to do something and because I couldn't add more to your VE case I wanted to make a general "how to win this game post". In this post I wanted to write quick reasons to why VE/LM/Sloosh were scum. When I got to LM his filter I quoted posts which showed he was clearly following the thread but choose not to comment on Mderg/VE but just kept pushing me. I got distracted from my original goal and pressed send when I was done with LM. Pretty sure I wanted to interact a bit around this case but it didn't happen. The part about VE was because I had VE/LM as most likely scumteam since I voted VE and it seemed less likely after reading LM filter. I AGREE that it was a bad post. You should think could town Koshi have made it? Pro-tip: The answer is yes.


Your case is bad BH. Try again? I want you to try again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 25 2014 21:55 GMT
#1412
On June 26 2014 04:48 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Koshi, it sounds like you still think LazerMo is scum. If this is the case, please address my defense of Lazermo here (link). Tell my why I am wrong, if you have a moment.

Can you be more specific? About what? Too scummy to be scum aspect of the vote?

##vote: Lazermonkey
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2014 09:09 GMT
#1449
Suddenly greenchecks everywhere.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2014 13:04 GMT
#1451
On June 26 2014 20:37 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 18:09 Koshi wrote:
Suddenly greenchecks everywhere.

So.. what's your role?

VT. I would never lie to you people about my alignment.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2014 14:21 GMT
#1452
Wait. Chezinu did you get a goon result from LM? Because that actually means he is town. You lied about the check right?

I just realized that a goon check is most likely a frame job. Scum can't look like a goon. Unless the framer frames himself or gf like a goon. I can't believe 3 powerroles vs 1 powerrole in a normal mini. 3 vs 2 is normal.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2014 17:55 GMT
#1454
On June 27 2014 02:53 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On June 26 2014 20:37 Chezinu wrote:
On June 26 2014 18:09 Koshi wrote:
Suddenly greenchecks everywhere.

So.. what's your role?

VT. I would never lie to you people about my alignment.


suspicious anyway I think the voting is going to be in six hours and this thread is not going anywhere. Hopefully chezinu updates us.

What is suspicious about that :o
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2014 18:10 GMT
#1457
On June 27 2014 03:00 Snickers wrote:
Why would you not just, I would never lie about my alignment. Saying you people makes it sound like your are not with us. Chezinu is apparently confirmed town so that even adds to it. Your also talking about lying about your alignment.

It was a joke. But maybe a bad one.

On June 27 2014 03:02 Snickers wrote:
Also just thought about something interesting. I am not 100% sure about this but lets consider something. YKZ hard pushes 27nb on day one. Relatively early. Same thing day two with VE. Now day three he has not pushed anyone yet, but only six hour till deadline? His biggest move so far was defending Lazer. Looking likely those two are scum.

I considered the fact that Lazermonkey had a hard-on for me D2 because all the discussion was between mderg/BH.
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