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Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 17:20 GMT

#280

On June 18 2014 02:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Just scrolled through your Cell Mini (Town) and Detention (Mafia) games. You actually asked a lot more questions as mafia. Interesting.

Carry on.

EBWOP

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 17:43 GMT

#283

But what about operation Adlez, Chezinu? How do they tie into it?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 19:40 GMT

#292

On June 18 2014 04:35 Chezinu wrote:
##UnVote
##Vote: mderg

Art it is time to have some fun! Let's do this!!!

Could you motivate your vote in a limerick?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 20:09 GMT

#300

On June 18 2014 04:53 slOosh wrote:
Artanis, could I have updated thoughts on bunnies / YKZ?

YKZ: No idea, it's BH.
Leaning scum on bunnies. Not sure if I want to vote bunnies or mderg. I don't like both bunnies and ykz's reason for townreading me but bunnies seems a lot more set on it for shaky grounds. Also don't like how she keeps pushing the unflipped associations thing, saying it's because of video mafia even though she's played a decent amount of forum mafia since then. Mderg is mostly a case of adding nothing to the conversation. That he thought my case made sense but didn't comment on goodkarma's much better post is something I don't understand either. I'm actually happy that Lazer stepped up to defend him because a lynch without opposition is generally bad for town. I don't think it's likely mafia would roll over and die with such a relatively inactive town that they'll just throw away a member on D1. I could lynch either of them atm.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 20:23 GMT

#305

slOosh is that really all you're going to do to try and get your main suspect killed?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 20:28 GMT

#307

Hi Koshi.
##Vote Koshi
Replacements have been overwhelmingly mafia as of late. Plus I'm still salty from Cell I.

On June 18 2014 05:22 slOosh wrote:

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Ehh I've been leaning against YKZ the whole time. He brought up Oats as a possible lurker lynch when people were considering mderg, and his "what's this mderg stuff about" looks like he wants other people to talk about it more, but isn't interested in bringing it up himself. Furthermore, there's no actual effort to convince people that bunnies is scum and we should be lynching her. His whole D1 gambit was to catch bunnies, and he already gave up on it.

You've cited nothing that discerns scum BH from town BH. He loves policy and he overexaggerates his opinion to get people lynched. He stopped trying to convince people to lynch bunnies because he no longer believed that when he stopped doing that. The gambit on catching bunnies can be from either alignment, I'm not sure what you're drawing from that.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 20:30 GMT

#309

Oh wait, you're still voting bunnies?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 20:33 GMT

#311

On June 18 2014 05:32 slOosh wrote:

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I don't see how he gave up on it in terms of stances. He gave up in convincing people which is my point.

If his argument hasn't changed and it's simply people not finding it good enough then that's an understandable reason for me why he'd give up on it. I don't see it as being scummy.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 20:36 GMT

#314

On June 18 2014 05:33 YouKnowZhou wrote:

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Where's bunnies right now, when we have more stuff to discuss? Sure, I'm not engaging the thread and talking about mderg (though nobody wants to summarise mderg stuff for me and I'm too lazy/busy at dinner to deal with it right now) but 27nb is conveniently gone! Yes, 27nb who could only think about my first post, who kenpachi rule, then kenpachi rule extended so hard, that if 27nb is scum you would all have to admit that kenpachi rule is the best policy. And yet here we are, with no votes on 27nb, and you know why? It's because you are weak. You are afraid, you don't trust the kenpachi rule. I understand, it's scary to put your faith in a rule. But when it comes down to it, kenpachi rule WORKS. Historically. People dislike the kenpachi rule, but try finding a better method of lynching people D1. RNG might cut it, but not in a game like this with a single faction.

The only thing you can trust on D1 is Kenpachi Rule in a game like this imo

I believe in the Kenpachi rule. I don't believe what happened was the Kenpachi rule in action.
##Unvote
##Vote Koshi

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 20:39 GMT

#317

BH, policy: Lynch all D1 replacements.
In the past two cell games I hosted I think 4/5 replacements were mafia. It's a solid policy.
Make the right lynch. Lynch Koshi.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 20:41 GMT

#318

@Mderg I considered not asking questions a scumtell, but when I checked your last scum and towngame it was not the case and I felt it prudent to inform the thread of that as I brought it up earlier.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 20:57 GMT

#323

I don't believe you Koshi, statistics dictate that you're scum. Statistics also say I'm he guy that's actually town. I don't become bffs with scum
I also don't believe you're dumb enough to consider that a scumslip. Further proof of scumminess.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 21:18 GMT

#331

On June 18 2014 05:58 Lazermonkey wrote:

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Sarcasm or just really really bad?

Don't pursue a career in tone reading.

On June 18 2014 06:15 Koshi wrote:
Well. I read everything. I got nothing.
I didn't read big posts though. skimmed them.

Not even the tiniest of tiny scum/townreads? No questions? I find that very hard to believe.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 21:19 GMT

#332

On June 18 2014 05:58 Release wrote:
Artanis is on my suspicion list because he his reasoning against me been (I strongly believe) wrong, but he has been firm but not stubborn or inordinately foccused on one topic. His dismissal of YKZ vs 27nb is something that suggests he may be mafia with one of YKZ (my pick) or 27nb but that is a bit of a stretch atm.

I didn't know being wrong was suspicious. I don't understand why I'm on your suspicion list when this is all you provide for it.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 21:45 GMT

#337

Alright, we need to start consolidating. The only legitimate two options today seem to be Ninjabunnies, mderg, with maybe VE as another option. Any other candidate hasn't been discussed enough in the 46 hours prior so it's unrealistic that they're still going to get lynched. If the leading wagon only has 3 votes then it's prone to massive manipulation by scum. Let's get opinions on these three out of the way. I'm fine with both Ninjabunnies and mderg right now. It's tough to choose between them. I don't necessarily like what VE has posted either, but I'll refer to my first post for that.

I'm going to go read through nb and mderg again and make up my mind.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 21:58 GMT

#341

Okay, I don't want to lynch mderg. I actually get quite a townie feel from his filter. He commented on all relevant things, expanded on the things he found strange and explained his scumread on ninjabunnies quite well. The way he's constructed his post makes sense to me and the townread for the sake of it resonates with my feeling of her townread on me being shaky ground. I also like how he disagreed with Lazer's defense. I think scum would be more likely to take all the help they can get when they're possibly on the stake. Mderg didn't do that.

I don't want to lynch mderg today.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

June 17 2014 22:12 GMT

#343

Ninjabunnies argues a lot with YKZ and has a fight that is really dumb. Both players spend too much time on this, with 27NB coming off looking worse to me. This is because YKZ tried to trap her, whereas her accusions were reactionary. She continues to argue with to her a strong scumread that she isn't scum, which is.. interesting. She says "no, you're wrong and you're scum" a lot. From what I've seen in her town games, I don't think she would as town.

The first post she makes which isn't about BH is in the middle of page 2 of her filter.

On June 16 2014 15:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
VE<3

You still want to lynch him, even though you thought he was trolling the game?

Also, Release, I basically said the exact same thing you did, but apparently mine didnt come out like yours.

TT

But I still stick with my YKZ read.

VE probs town, Release probs town.

Snickers could be town or mafia. He seems to be buddying with YKZ, though he seems to be really trying to figure out the game.

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The weird thing i find is here, and his whole "We should lynch bunnies because YKZ is a knowledgeable player" seems super off to me!

Knowledgeable does not make you town.

The post says nothing new other than two townreads and some guy she says could be town or mafia, yet casts suspicion on him. It feels off, yet he could be town or mafia. Why even mention that? I don't understand its function.

Next day she wakes up, she asks me a bunch of questions, then states she thinks we're both town here. Why is she asking me questions rather than YKZ, her top scum read, or Snickers, the guy she thinks could be mafia and had something odd going on?

Unflipped associations follow which are terrible, and she should know that as she's played a few forum games by now. More contentless posts follow where she doesn't either explain her reasons for finding someone scum or ask questions, they're just.. there. Mindless arguing.

There's a lot of repetition in her filter, and a lot of comments that really aren't helping town moving forward in any way. I'm happy to get her lynched.

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