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Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
May 31 2014 23:57 GMT
#761
Palmar:
Is slOosh "too scummy to be scum" ?
Like do you agree slOosh is scummier, but you want to go M_Z because people are voting for slOosh?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 31 2014 23:57 GMT
#762
And no amiko, fuba's point (I think) and mine, is that if this was a mafia lynch on sloosh, why is it gaining traction over the MZ one. It's a pretty shit way of playing in general but it may apply here.

I'm pretty sure mderg is town and I know I'm town. so at the top of this page the only potential scum according to my reads on the MZ wagon is sloosh himself.

Maybe they're both mafia. in that case it's fine. But I'm really sure MZ is mafia, like 95% sure.

So why is everyone jumping the sloosh case?
Computer says mafia
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 31 2014 23:58 GMT
#763
On June 01 2014 08:54 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 08:43 Amiko wrote:
Please explain this (Palmar & fuba):

How do you not vote slOosh when nearly everything suspicious about M_Z also applies to slOosh, plus slOosh is scummier in other ways?

@Palmar:
You should also join my lynch on slOosh because fuba's play today is weird and he is pushing M_Z - if you don't see that I can argue about it.


I think fuba is town, I don't care if his play is weird.

This sloosh lynch is going too easily. We should do MZ.

Actually, this.
##Unvote
##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh

It's just like the previous lynch, I don't like it.
Imaginary
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
May 31 2014 23:58 GMT
#764
Do you not see the townie nature of that last post? It's written in a way that is clearly motivated by the idea that his lynch is a mislynch. I think I did the math wrong and scum actually need two mislynches after this if SlOosh is town, but either way the fact that he goes further and says that we should question non-MZ lynch suggestions from you indicates a townie mindset. He's thinking beyond just his own lynch, to what it will mean for the rest of us and the rest of the game. I find that scum tend to end their thoughts at their lynch more often than not. Also, looking through SlOosh's filter, I don't really find him as scummy as I thought MZ could be yesterday.

The "nature of the lynch" is that it came down to two players who are considered suspicious for very similar things, and the fact that SlOosh is the wagon we landed on makes me think it's what scum would prefer.
@theRealMkfuba07
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 31 2014 23:58 GMT
#765
On June 01 2014 08:57 Amiko wrote:
Palmar:
Is slOosh "too scummy to be scum" ?
Like do you agree slOosh is scummier, but you want to go M_Z because people are voting for slOosh?

No, MZ is way more scummy. Like way, way, way more scummy.
Computer says mafia
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
May 31 2014 23:59 GMT
#766
I mean, I think it's because my case is really good and if you fight it you'll look bad.

If you are willing to go with weak ways of playing the game that ignore a scummy history of a player, it also seems possible scum is WIFOMing and trying to make the slOosh lynch look "too easy" especially since that was somewhat compelling to people D1.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 01 2014 00:00 GMT
#767
Doesn't matter. My case on MZ is far more slam dunk than yours on sloosh.
Computer says mafia
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 00:01 GMT
#768
@sqrt:
(1) Do you think it's possible that you are getting played because of your reactions d1? I mean I was just writing that may be happening, since to me you seem like the prime person who might switch based on this "too easy" argument.

(2) Can you at least agree that fuba's play is weird today? He joined the thread making a case on you as if he was just stopping by and had been active in the thread

On May 31 2014 15:45 fuba wrote:
I'm glad you mentioned sqrt, because he's someone who's stuck out to me.


but yet he doesn't discuss the active topics (Meepak & slOosh)
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 00:03 GMT
#769
On June 01 2014 09:00 Palmar wrote:
Doesn't matter. My case on MZ is far more slam dunk than yours on sloosh.


What applies to M_Z that doesn't apply to slOosh?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 00:04 GMT
#770
Also if you feel so confident in your case on M_Z, why haven't you pushed it all day?
(also my case is way better than yours, btw)
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
June 01 2014 00:06 GMT
#771
On June 01 2014 09:01 Amiko wrote:
@sqrt:
(1) Do you think it's possible that you are getting played because of your reactions d1? I mean I was just writing that may be happening, since to me you seem like the prime person who might switch based on this "too easy" argument.

(2) Can you at least agree that fuba's play is weird today? He joined the thread making a case on you as if he was just stopping by and had been active in the thread

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2014 15:45 fuba wrote:
I'm glad you mentioned sqrt, because he's someone who's stuck out to me.


but yet he doesn't discuss the active topics (Meepak & slOosh)

1. Maybe. Maybe I am.
2. Definitely. He didn't mention anything really about MZ or sloosh, and just made a case on me. This could go both ways though. While it is strange that he doesn't talk about the current wagons, as mafia it might be easier to jump on a wagon. If either of these are lynched and they flip town, it'll make fuba look more towny.
But I do agree that fuba's play is weird today.


I also agree that I haven't been playing as well as I should this day, but so are people such as bunnies.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
June 01 2014 00:08 GMT
#772
Amiko, I have a question for you.
Who is the most townie, in your opinion, based on solely D2 play?
Imaginary
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 00:10 GMT
#773
Okay here's another good point

@sqrt:
Yesterday fuba was content to go with a bandwagon on jabber. He kept his vote on jabber.
Today he is afraid of a bandwagon that is going too easily.

Yesterday's wagon went more easily. Today he is concerned. WAT
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 00:10 GMT
#774
I'm the most towny based on d2 and it's by a huge margin
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 01 2014 00:11 GMT
#775
This isn't a "too easy" argument from me. It's the argument that between two players that are relatively identical according to the reads of most players in the thread, this is the wagon that at least two scum are on. This lynch feels more uncertain than yesterday's, and more dangerous.

Hm, I guess it almost is a "too easy" argument, but I think the point still stands. And yes, I read people as town based on single posts all the time. If the rest of their filter is pretty "meh" to me, Seeing what I feel is a clear town mindset pretty much makes them town unless I have to completely reevaluate my reads and start from the beginning.
@theRealMkfuba07
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 00:12 GMT
#776
btw the too easy comment applies to Palmar somewhat too
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 00:12 GMT
#777
Also
@sqrt since I feel like I might actually convince you, do you really think it is likely that you complete today townreading slOosh?

Like, maybe it's possible you are unsure between M_Z and slOosh. But how do you townread slOosh?
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
June 01 2014 00:13 GMT
#778
On June 01 2014 09:10 Amiko wrote:
I'm the most towny based on d2 and it's by a huge margin

Other than you, I mean.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
June 01 2014 00:14 GMT
#779
On June 01 2014 09:12 Amiko wrote:
Also
@sqrt since I feel like I might actually convince you, do you really think it is likely that you complete today townreading slOosh?

Like, maybe it's possible you are unsure between M_Z and slOosh. But how do you townread slOosh?

Reason of too easy lynch. Like jwz's lynch.
Imaginary
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 00:15 GMT
#780
Probably mderg.
I like bunnies too, although she wasn't active today her post on slOosh was pretty much exactly the kind of post in response - it showed reconsidering and suspicion on grounds I obviously feel are super valid.
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