Detention Mafia - Page 23

On May 28 2014 20:11 Palmar wrote:
Don't ask hard questions Chrom, he might not have an answer right now.

On May 28 2014 20:37 Chromatically wrote:

hue hue hue

Palmar, you still feeling good about this lynch?


Amiko, I don't see you pushing anything. Who do you want to lynch and what's your read on jabber?

On May 28 2014 01:14 jabberwockzerg wrote:

Lovely.
I was trying to get the game moving along, I was pretty pumped to start interrogating and scum reading, which isn't how I acted last game, when I was scum.
Lying about who was scum last game, I was trying to conceal information. I didn't realize that last game's roles were known, it would be beneficial for me if no one knew I was Mafia, just because there would be no real patterns of my play, and I could remain a wild card, which I thought could help me later.

On May 28 2014 21:54 Chromatically wrote:
So I agree that he's done absolutely everything wrong, but I don't really get "too scummy to be scum". Like he's done everything I would expect scum to do in his position. What do you think he would be doing differently as mafia? Or what about it makes you doubt that he's mafia as opposed to just sealing the deal?

On May 28 2014 11:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Hey im scumhunting....

So im thinking,

Team for mafia:

Jabber/Sqrt/mderg

Or

Jabber/palmer/mderg

Something like that,

Id lynch both jabber and mderg though

On May 28 2014 22:07 mderg wrote:

I don´t get how defending jabber like I did would make any sense, if we were both scum. That would be like the worst mafia play ever. Me being scum only makes sense, if jabber flips town. I could see mafia reasons for that. But hard defending a scummate who will almost certainly be lynched anyway doesn´t seem like scum play.

On May 28 2014 22:06 Palmar wrote:


The "too scummy to be scum" concept is a very fragile and shitty, but surprisingly often correct thing that happens.

The idea is basically that if he is mafia, his team knows he made a blunder, so they would help him devise a strategy to come back, or bus him.

if bus: I'd expect him to just shut up and not try to come back. Now I know I'm town but other people don't so this is weak from everyone else's perspective, but why on earth is he piling shit on me if his team is busing him. That is basically just helping me gain influcence in town. It's just bad play if he's mafia to give credit to a townie.

if they try to save him: I'd expect him/his team/mafia coach to have come up with a better plan than what he has posted. His arguments are just straight up awful, If the mafia team can't collectively think up some better defense than this well.. I just don't want to believe that.

And thus, he's being soooo awful that it's possible he's too scummy to be scum. He's blatantly wrong. He's hardly trying to cover up how awful his stuff is.

But, there's also the chance that he's just acting on his own, he messed up, he's not thinking long term and thought maybe a wagon could be built on me, and in that case he's just mafia who's playing badly.

Like I don't really like or see the point in speculating on this thing. If we have a slam dunk case on someone I'll support it, but currently I see no other outcome for today than lynching him.

On May 28 2014 08:51 Palmar wrote:
If someone isn't following why that last MZ post raises alarms (aside from the fact he's calling everyone mafia), I'll explain.



The bolded quote is very much not trying to figure out i's alignment. If MZ thinks there is any chance i is mafia, why is he trying to stop i from digging his own grave under the threat of "if you keep doing this I'll be suspicious of you!!!!". This looks like MZ wants to read i as town, while still looking like he's poking people.

On May 28 2014 23:23 Chromatically wrote:
mderg, what would you say your objective is for today? What outcome would you be most happy with??

On May 28 2014 22:07 mderg wrote:

I don´t get how defending jabber like I did would make any sense, if we were both scum. That would be like the worst mafia play ever. Me being scum only makes sense, if jabber flips town. I could see mafia reasons for that. But hard defending a scummate who will almost certainly be lynched anyway doesn´t seem like scum play.