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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
May 28 2014 19:59 GMT
#75
/in

Same hydra: Foolishness and Mattchew.

Since we didn't really get to play Golden Sun.
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
May 28 2014 20:34 GMT
#79
On May 29 2014 05:10 justanothertownie wrote:
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On May 29 2014 04:59 mattisfoolish wrote:
/in

Same hydra: Foolishness and Mattchew.

Since we didn't really get to play Golden Sun.

Couldn't you 2 just play on your own? That would be really great.

no
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 11 2014 06:39 GMT
#1008
##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh

It's a good one

On June 11 2014 14:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 11 2014 12:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:52 roundabound wrote:
Holy shit lynch Ketomai next


we can just lynch him today, though.


We could!

##unvote

##Vote Ketomai

I'm also not opposed to this train.

~Foolishness
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 11 2014 06:54 GMT
#1009
Also seems like batsnacks and ChairmanRay are two townies fighting. At least the both of them seem like confident townies from their filters.
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 22:05 GMT
#2023
I'm just going to assume everyone is okay with me voting Meapak again tomorrow.

~Foolishness
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 22:12 GMT
#2028
I don't think I would lynch Rainbows either.
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 22:17 GMT
#2032
On June 13 2014 07:16 marvellosity wrote:
well that's 2 people. i guess i leave rainbows alone for now :o

If it makes you feel better I checked all his past games before coming to that conclusion.
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 22:40 GMT
#2055
On June 13 2014 07:18 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 13 2014 07:17 mattisfoolish wrote:
On June 13 2014 07:16 marvellosity wrote:
well that's 2 people. i guess i leave rainbows alone for now :o

If it makes you feel better I checked all his past games before coming to that conclusion.

would you mind telling me what led you to that conclusion then?

Biggest thing for me is the game where he's mafia here. Looks way different from this game (and is town games). In that game (where he's mafia) he's very abrasive, types in all caps a lot and goes "lol ur scum" a lot. His town games are much more laid back.

For what it's worth I'm not as certain on Meapak as I was yesterday (when I would've day vigi'd him and not looked back). I want him to post a bunch so I can be sure.

Also I thought DP was mafia yesterday but I don't think my opinion is shared there.

It was me (Foolishness posting) Robik. Didn't sign it cause I had just posted and thought it would be obvious.

~Foolishness
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 22:44 GMT
#2062
On June 13 2014 07:41 Koshi wrote:
tica is DP? amagad.

Talking about ObiWanShinobi sorry.

~Foolishness
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 23:09 GMT
#2081
Also I'm pretty sure ritoky is town, and I'm still not opposed to ketomai being lynched.

Just giving everything I've got out there while I'm here, I'm not certain if I'll be able to post again over the next 24 hours and I have no idea what Mattchew is doing. I'll be here another 30 minutes or so.

~Foolishness
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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 23:24 GMT
#2087
On June 13 2014 08:16 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 13 2014 08:09 mattisfoolish wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure ritoky is town, and I'm still not opposed to ketomai being lynched.

Just giving everything I've got out there while I'm here, I'm not certain if I'll be able to post again over the next 24 hours and I have no idea what Mattchew is doing. I'll be here another 30 minutes or so.

~Foolishness


Have I not gotten to the post where you detail your read on MZ? Can you do so briefly if you can? I honestly could have missed it and if I have you can just say filter or something but I don't remember it.

Also why is ritoky town and why is ketomai a good lynch?

In short, you can tell if MZ is town by how aggressive he is. If he's putting himself out there and calling people idiots, then town. If he's being logical with his posts and not sticking his neck out then he's mafia. He's always been an easier read for me which is why I went after him right away. In Golden Sun 2 mafia he was town and he was very apparent town from me on day 1 because of his attitude. This game is the complete opposite and I saw it right away.

I think ritoky is town because he seems confident in his posting and is putting his thoughts out. I saw someone say that he's mafia (this was a while ago) so I decided to look into it. Honestly I think this guy got some heat in a recent game as well when he was town and I'm noticing a similar sort of pattern. I also don't get the feeling that he's hiding anything in his posting.

Ketomai is a good lynch because I have no idea what alignment he is. I think a few others have said some words about him; I'll just defer to that for now.


I just read Gumshoe's filter and it made me really uncomfortable. I suggest everyone take a look at him if you have a free minute.
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 23:41 GMT
#2091
On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

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On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

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On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

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On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.

This seems like a convoluted way to prove someone is scum...
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#2223
Players that we should be looking at closely for the next lynch

MZ
Sandroba
Ketomai
ObiWanShinobi
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 13 2014 15:09 GMT
#2252
On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool.

no its matt
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 13 2014 15:14 GMT
#2256
On June 14 2014 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool.

no its matt

it was Fool.

you are matt.

don't try play games with me mattyboy.

i posted that list.

fool did our first posts, his last post was June 12 2014 19:41

these last few are mine



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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 13 2014 15:17 GMT
#2259
On June 14 2014 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:
On June 13 2014 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
yes that's Fool.

no its matt

Well, I am somehow afraid this attempt to get you to speak will be futile but it would be really appreciated if you would give us at least some thoughts behind those reads or even in general.

sure!

MZ hasnt done anything this game while his town play usually has him actively speaking his mind and calling people out

Sandroba's town play includes destroying scum, while his mafia play includes lots of inactivity

The other 2 are not extremely substantiated but they have an off feel. For example ketomai seems like he has no confidence in any of what hes posting. Obi phil has a bad feeling about

We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 13 2014 18:00 GMT
#2364
Mz being vigi would explain his difference in play

Matt
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 14 2014 16:00 GMT
#2567
No please.

##Vote: gumshoe

Not opposed to sandroba or ketomai either. Also fairly confident that Haru and Rainbows are two townies going ham in the tunnel.

~Foolishness
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 14 2014 16:08 GMT
#2570
On June 15 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
if you think gumshoe is mafia, make a proper case on him being mafia

on day 1 you plopped a lazy vote on MZ who turned up town

now you're plopping a lazy unexplained vote on gumshoe

it's day 2. step it up.

On June 12 2014 05:40 gumshoe wrote:
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On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote:
Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.

Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it.


Ultimately Exo, this is a game / : and I often feel like town players get that, but scum don't as a result of the fear we impose on them. A reluctance to post reads as fear to me but I've never played you before so I won't pretend as if I really know what your thinking. That said, I feel it's unfair of you to amount all that's been said to psycho analyst banter ) : a lot of interesting valid things have been said by your peers and if none of it appeals to you why are you playing this game? Speaking of which, your goal in this match is two fold, it is not enough to find scum, you have to prove to us that your town so that by the time you do offer up your true accusations we trust you enough to follow. that's why we all offer these reads ( even if they're not perfect) as opposed to hoarding our suspicions like menacing house wives.

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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 14 2014 16:22 GMT
#2571
If you want to seal the deal look at his mafia game recently here (YOSO) and Cell mini mafia where he's town here.

His mafia play is characterized by generic posting, slight inactivity and lack of initiative to figure anything out. In cell mini where he's town he has a marvellosity-number of pages in his filter and was actively pushing people (also lots of one liners).

So far this game he's written generic posts (see the one I quoted above but also here) he has zero initiative in finding scum (proof here and here) and is hardly participating in town discussion...just kinda writing out posts cause he needs to.
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