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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 12 2014 20:05 GMT
#1965
On June 13 2014 05:04 Koshi wrote:
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On June 13 2014 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:02 Koshi wrote:
so scum lost 1 kp. I am amused.

marv confirmed really good at the game.

Am I still scum? I was like the first person to call this dude out.

Sure. Mafia knows who mafia is.
And you did literally nothing with it till marv started wagon.

You make me sad.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 12 2014 20:09 GMT
#1967
On June 13 2014 05:06 Palmar wrote:
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On June 13 2014 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:04 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:02 Koshi wrote:
so scum lost 1 kp. I am amused.

marv confirmed really good at the game.

Am I still scum? I was like the first person to call this dude out.

Sure. Mafia knows who mafia is.
And you did literally nothing with it till marv started wagon.

You make me sad.

I sort of agree with Kosher.

Not that I want to lynch you tomorrow, but yeah, you're one of the people who gain the least cred for this.

I think I did more for this lynch than most of the people on the wagon but ok. Whatever.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 12 2014 20:11 GMT
#1972
On June 13 2014 05:09 Palmar wrote:
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On June 13 2014 05:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:06 Palmar wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:04 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:02 Koshi wrote:
so scum lost 1 kp. I am amused.

marv confirmed really good at the game.

Am I still scum? I was like the first person to call this dude out.

Sure. Mafia knows who mafia is.
And you did literally nothing with it till marv started wagon.

You make me sad.

I sort of agree with Kosher.

Not that I want to lynch you tomorrow, but yeah, you're one of the people who gain the least cred for this.

I think I did more for this lynch than most of the people on the wagon but ok. Whatever.

I didn't do jack shit for this lynch and still look more town than you.

You look town BECAUSE you have done jack shit. Nothing to do with me or this lynch -_-
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 12 2014 22:30 GMT
#2049
On June 13 2014 07:22 Koshi wrote:
Robik could you check JaT, MZ and Chrom?

##Foolishness read: MZ

You are a hopeless case... let's accuse the players who went at the flipped scum early of all people. Because a bus day1 with KP on the line makes tons of sense. Why use your brain when you can just keep spouting the same bullshit regardless of what is happening.
Not talking about MZ here of course.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 12 2014 22:31 GMT
#2050
On June 13 2014 07:29 Koshi wrote:
How can you like JaT early?

By having good reads.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 12 2014 23:33 GMT
#2088
On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

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On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


contribute

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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

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On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

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On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.

1) I was suspicious of him BEFORE marvs case and also said this in the thread.
2) No, it does not make a lot of sense. It did not seem like marv was locked in on this lynch if I was mafia with KotC the logical thing would be to try and make marv go after someone else. Why would I give up KP without a fight.
3) I had a strong townread on marv at that point. Letting townmarv decide things has proven helpful in the past. I let him lead. Sue me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 00:33 GMT
#2095
On June 13 2014 08:46 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 13 2014 08:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


contribute

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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

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On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.

1) I was suspicious of him BEFORE marvs case and also said this in the thread.
2) No, it does not make a lot of sense. It did not seem like marv was locked in on this lynch if I was mafia with KotC the logical thing would be to try and make marv go after someone else. Why would I give up KP without a fight.
3) I had a strong townread on marv at that point. Letting townmarv decide things has proven helpful in the past. I let him lead. Sue me.


Its why I said it was "weird" and not "wolfy"

Also as to point #2 just after the King case you made these posts:

Targetting SnB
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On June 12 2014 22:09 justanothertownie wrote:
SnB:
On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum

I don't like this post.
Palmar not trying is not scummy. SnB puts suspicion in Rainbows for the scumread on Koshi while he does the same (and his reasoning is not very detailed either).
Says Koshi is scum but likes his reasoning for Tica being scum (I disagree).

Has done nothing else except for complaining.

We can definitely kill that guy. I see nothing towny here and if you compare his filter to YOSO you will see that he is much townier there.


and then Ketomai

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On June 12 2014 22:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ketomai:

Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote:
Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.

Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring.

He then promises one content post and delivers this:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
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On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls.


I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic.

Top votes:

Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia.

Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player.

Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him.

strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.

ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense.

MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read.


Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out.

I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB.


just after the marv case. Seems like soft pushes away from a possible marv train on a buddy.... although if either flips wolf then I'd disregard it.

I'll check your filter on point 1 and point 3 makes sense for sure but its odd you brought up these two other guys right after. Again I'm throwing this in the 'weird' not 'wolfy' pile. However, you're definitely not getting village admittance.

@JaT who do you think looks the worst after the lynch?

Yes, or maybe I did this because marv asked me to? Ever thought of that?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:09 GMT
#2150
Marv, please give us a legacy before the end of the night. I could really see a doublestack here.

And obviously a vig should shoot unreadables like Kush and not people who do shit. It is not even a debate.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:09 GMT
#2151
On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x?

do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote?


maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much

Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:11 GMT
#2154
On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x?

do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote?


maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much

Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense?


obviously

So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:14 GMT
#2159
On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x?

do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote?


maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much

Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense?


obviously

So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy.


in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances

I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:17 GMT
#2163
On June 13 2014 19:13 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, please give us a legacy before the end of the night. I could really see a doublestack here.

And obviously a vig should shoot unreadables like Kush and not people who do shit. It is not even a debate.

I've grown too lazy in my old age to do legacies. Really medic should be on me and if we can make mafia use 2 of their already reduced KP to kill me, then it's like I've done my job twice. And if they don't use 2 KP on me they have a strong townie who's all but confirmed running around day 2. It's win win.

At least give us your strongest opinions then. I guess you will anyways but don't forget it - this deadline (although it is great - europe controls the lynch) can easily be missed.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:18 GMT
#2164
On June 13 2014 19:16 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x?

do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote?


maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much

Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense?


obviously

So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy.


in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances

I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent.

Ace (6)
poofter (2)
gumshoe (1)
anyone else (0)

sound familiar to you? :p

Does not sound like day1 to me. I rather thought of Titanic as an example.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:18 GMT
#2166
On June 13 2014 19:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x?

do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote?


maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much

Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense?


obviously

So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy.


in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances

I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent.

Cats, SnB and ?

HF says they are scum with kush. Are you even reading?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:20 GMT
#2168
On June 13 2014 19:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 19:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:16 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote?


maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much

Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense?


obviously

So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy.


in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances

I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent.

Cats, SnB and ?

HF says they are scum with kush. Are you even reading?


just theorising about cats vote tbh nothing concrete

I know but it's still what you said.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:25 GMT
#2175
On June 13 2014 19:24 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 13 2014 19:23 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:16 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much

Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense?


obviously

So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy.


in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances

I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent.

Cats, SnB and ?

HF says they are scum with kush. Are you even reading?

Says the guy that started this 3 wagon scum thing, while I don't see where HF says Kush is scum. Just that Cats didn't vote SnB because he is a powerrole. HF never said Kush is scum. I don't see where you get that from.


someone clearly isn't reading the thread at all ~_~

Indeed.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:25 GMT
#2176
On June 13 2014 19:25 Koshi wrote:
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On June 13 2014 19:24 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:23 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:16 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense?


obviously

So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy.


in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances

I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent.

Cats, SnB and ?

HF says they are scum with kush. Are you even reading?

Says the guy that started this 3 wagon scum thing, while I don't see where HF says Kush is scum. Just that Cats didn't vote SnB because he is a powerrole. HF never said Kush is scum. I don't see where you get that from.


someone clearly isn't reading the thread at all ~_~

Where the fuck do you say Kush is scum?

Dunno. All day and yesterday too maybe?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 10:36 GMT
#2192
On June 13 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:
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On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me

it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case

it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place

it's lazy +1 of some random case later


No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours.

I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer.

Of course, you can choose not to believe me.

Hm, the game began exactly at lynch time.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 11:02 GMT
#2208
Isn't 20 % like exactly the probability to roll mafia in this game anyways? 30 % isn't very impressing then but go ahead.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
June 13 2014 11:48 GMT
#2214
On June 13 2014 20:33 HaruRH wrote:
It is really hard to post something pretty on phone T.T

Just a clarification on how my scum% system works, everyone starts off at 0% scum and the number increases through scum posts.

Firstly, I was observing how people jumped from roundabound -> koshi -> snb -> kotc. There were people who preferred to jump wagons at last minute, or stay on the wagon. These people were ignored since it is normal to do so.

However, 1 person did something striking to me. Rainbows initially sheeped the koshi vote. His reason was this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 12:03 Rainbows wrote:
As I was refreshing this thread on my phone while at work, a couple things I thought were interesting. First was Yamato's post here + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 09:27 yamato77 wrote:
at p. 30, three posts I want to comment on

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On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206


This case is not good. Sinani is not mafia for how he's played so far, and marv agreeing with Chrom about this read is suspicious. Do not like the sinani = mafia read at all.

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On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

lol

are you serious?


This about sums up my thoughts on Robik. Not to be taken seriously.

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On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:
First scumread for me: roundabound

On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves


another good point.

god im so confused.

this game is really hard.

can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.

shit i hope nobody notices me omg.

I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum


You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.

##Vote: Roundaboud

I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play.


The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play.

On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time.


I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player.

On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!


This post is Howling like a boss.

Why?

Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?

The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.


Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks.



That said, I don't like the case on him either, however I find this post to be a more reasonable and townie one than Chrom's post about sinani.

tl;dr Chrom and Marv bad, sinani and robik not good lynches, Chairman townish.
that I initially didn't find agreeable, because I was leaning town on Chrom (initial sinani pressure seemed good, overall posts seemed towny)Marv and Mocsta (roundabout) appeared to instantly pick up on the same thing I was feeling here: + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 09:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 09:27 yamato77 wrote:
at p. 30, three posts I want to comment on

On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206


This case is not good. Sinani is not mafia for how he's played so far, and marv agreeing with Chrom about this read is suspicious. Do not like the sinani = mafia read at all.

On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

lol

are you serious?


This about sums up my thoughts on Robik. Not to be taken seriously.

On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:
First scumread for me: roundabound

On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves


another good point.

god im so confused.

this game is really hard.

can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.

shit i hope nobody notices me omg.

I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum


You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.

##Vote: Roundaboud

I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play.


The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play.

On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time.


I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player.

On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!


This post is Howling like a boss.

Why?

Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?

The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.


Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks.



That said, I don't like the case on him either, however I find this post to be a more reasonable and townie one than Chrom's post about sinani.

tl;dr Chrom and Marv bad, sinani and robik not good lynches, Chairman townish.

you're bad because you fail at basic reading comprehension.

go you.

and here:+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 09:30 roundabound wrote:
Yamato has to be scum; or a completely changed man

~moc
. These responses by moc and marv make me feel better about them, because they were thinking what I was thinking as I read Yamato's post. Regardless of Yams alignment, I think marv and moc are towny because they were on the same wavelength as I. Similar reads on a post like this is a good indicator of who is playing for what team.

I also noticed Koshi's post here: + Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:
ObiWanShinobi:
Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted).
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.

im just gonna sheep him forever.


On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves


another good point.

god im so confused.

this game is really hard.

can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.

shit i hope nobody notices me omg.


On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first

therefore the first six people to post are scum

gg

Try English.
And Logic.

But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like


roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting.

hows the weather up there?


On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
fuck i got town again.


Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town.


hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help




Chairman Ray:
Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town .
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys.

On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:
First scumread for me: roundabound

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves


another good point.

god im so confused.

this game is really hard.

can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.

shit i hope nobody notices me omg.

I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum


You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.

##Vote: Roundaboud

I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play.


The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote:
Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time.


I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!


This post is Howling like a boss.

Why?

Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?

The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.


Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks.




TehPoofter:
Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam:
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On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game.



roundabound:
Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:
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On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya!


This post is Howling like a boss.

Why?

Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you?

The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town.


On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:
This is a really weird reaction from Palmar.

If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post.

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On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't get my role yet.

Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last.

Nailed you, bitch.


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On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote:
Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb.



On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
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On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:
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On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.

Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote





awkward corner aka might lynch will watch:
Chromatically:
I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.

tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread.
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On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first

therefore the first six people to post are scum

gg

On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote:
Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.

Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good.

On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
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On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206



TicaTica:
Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler.
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On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll.


On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote:
Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy.


On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:
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On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT?


Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.

In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game.
I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass.

and therefore your conclusion?

I think it's kinda scummy.

I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p

on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books.

Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik.

well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though.

Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity.



##vote: TicaTica
, which I found underwhelming when concerning a bunch of null readers and disagreeable. We differ on Chrom reads apparently, but it looks like Koshi is soft-defending Sinani here. "Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No." Seems like a pretty bold statement for a supposed towny to make and be so assured of. He also voted tictac which is OK, but why not Chrom? spent more time discussing chrom than tic which I found to be odd.

So yeah, I like chrom for early pressure and general posting, moc / marv seem to be on the same page as I am. Yamato seems a bit off, leaning maff. Koshi evul.

Randoms reads. Bill Murray seems like a douche, but not mafia douche atm. Leaning somewhat townie douche. I'm OK with a douche as long as he doesn't bleed red. Chairman seems pretty well-structured to me, post on round appeals to a lot of logical assumptions. His koshi post goes from "his post seems scummy" to "he seems town", so i'm not sure what he's trying to do there.


A pretty normal reason to vote on koshi. However, his switch from koshi to snb was suspect. He jumped off the koshi wagon quite quickly after some people jumped off the wagon and leeched obto the snb wagon when it was just starting, and it seemed to be a potential wagon. This was his crappy reason.+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2014 08:53 Rainbows wrote:
StrongandBig's posts thus far have been atrocious. Some summary, calls people stupid, and gives a very badly formed read on myself based on a bunch of unexplained "indications" that mean nothing.

I indicate SnB is mafia. Lynch with fire.

##Unvote: Koshi
##Vote: StrongandBig


This is obviously just a sheep post. At this point, he probably just wanted to sheep and gain easy towncreds if his sheep worked - but people jumped off snb into kotc vote. What I theorize is, if rainbows was unable to jump to kotc for 2 reasons: 1) he was scum and is unabls to vote for his scummate. 2) any more jumps and he will look suspicious.

These few suspect jumps and the kotc flip have led me to give rainbows a 30% scum rating. Post me qns about anyone who you want me to show my ratings and explanation.

Changing your vote often isn't really a scummy thing to do.
Why would Rainbows expect towncred for sheeping the snb wagon? I mean you are indicating that snb would have been town here.
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