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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 21:05 GMT
#4849
maybe he didn't think this through and is gambiting

like, he has a red check on bunnies but didn't check chrome or vice versa and wants them to "react"

which can never work, the gambited player knows their own alignment and assumes ritocky knwos it to and therefore they have no incentive to respond to his questions
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 21:07 GMT
#4853
On June 21 2014 06:05 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 06:02 marvellosity wrote:
oh god it's Chrome because he asked Chrome to make a case on bunnies.

oh well.

15 mins ritoky, don't let me down.


could you tell me why it is such a big deal that someone basically just tjsalt ragequit? i don't think that wanting the 2 people who have opposite alignments to give reads before i give out the alignments is the worst play ever. so please explain it to me.


it can never help

the town player knows they are town and that you are going to say they are town

the scum player knows they are scum and that you are going to say they are scum

they both know that the "reads" you are trying to extract will have no effect

there is no pressure here, you gain no information whatsoever. the scum player has no reason to even post now.

you are just jerking town around and nothing else
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 21:08 GMT
#4856
On June 21 2014 06:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 06:06 marvellosity wrote:
On June 21 2014 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 06:02 marvellosity wrote:
oh god it's Chrome because he asked Chrome to make a case on bunnies.

oh well.

15 mins ritoky, don't let me down.


could you tell me why it is such a big deal that someone basically just tjsalt ragequit? i don't think that wanting the 2 people who have opposite alignments to give reads before i give out the alignments is the worst play ever. so please explain it to me.

because there are 11-12 people in the game who just want to lynch mafia, and you are stopping them for no reason.

If I were the townie and you had checked me, I would know my alignment and I would tell you to fuck off and vote the other guy.


i am stalling them with the hopes of getting more info so that we can lynch more subsequent mafia. because either i am going to be kept alive and roleblocked by the jailkeeper (no more checks) or die (no more check)


On June 21 2014 06:07 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 06:02 marvellosity wrote:
oh god it's Chrome because he asked Chrome to make a case on bunnies.

oh well.

15 mins ritoky, don't let me down.


could you tell me why it is such a big deal that someone basically just tjsalt ragequit? i don't think that wanting the 2 people who have opposite alignments to give reads before i give out the alignments is the worst play ever. so please explain it to me.


it can never help

the town player knows they are town and that you are going to say they are town

the scum player knows they are scum and that you are going to say they are scum

they both know that the "reads" you are trying to extract will have no effect

there is no pressure here, you gain no information whatsoever. the scum player has no reason to even post now.

you are just jerking town around and nothing else

"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 22:11 GMT
#4972
welp
##unvote
##vote: ritocky
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 22:18 GMT
#4981
i do have to say, him being a stupid vt is kind of the only world in which his "wanting reads" thing makes sense I could imagine someone saying the "wanting reads out of them" thing...

misgivings
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 22:40 GMT
#4993
On June 21 2014 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
Can I let you live? Fuck this for a decision.


hes probably town though





and yes we can let him live - think of it this way, he's probably not scum but if he is its that much funnier
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 22:55 GMT
#5002
On June 21 2014 07:42 TicaTica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 07:23 marvellosity wrote:
Gonna have to think about this tomorrow.

Thought not required.

If he 's alive, we are essentially forced to kill him before mylo and no way scum does it for us. It's obviously not ideal if he's town but as long as he's alive discussion will revolve around this shit regardless of his alignment. I'd rather know his alignment now rather than later. If he's town he's horribly fucked us. If he's mafia, we potentially reduce KP.

why is this true (hint: its not)

if we decide he's town we can just go on with our lives
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 23:02 GMT
#5007
On June 21 2014 07:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
it has everything to do with ate. anyone thinking logically knows that there is no other play but to lynch him. if you think otherwise then you aren't as good as I thought.



no the emotional response is "he misplayed HE MUST DIE"

the logical play is, you know, to try and READ HIS ALIGNMENT.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 23:02 GMT
#5008
##unvote
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 23:10 GMT
#5011
On June 21 2014 08:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 08:02 strongandbig wrote:
On June 21 2014 07:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
it has everything to do with ate. anyone thinking logically knows that there is no other play but to lynch him. if you think otherwise then you aren't as good as I thought.



no the emotional response is "he misplayed HE MUST DIE"

the logical play is, you know, to try and READ HIS ALIGNMENT.


the emotional response is to actually react to his

"have fun lynching vt faggotz lol 420 blaze it"

might as well be written in german, it has no affect on me

no one is reacting to that


we are trying to logically evaluate which alignment he is based on his actions (ie, the way he made his claim).
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 23:11 GMT
#5013
wait is ritocky geript or is ticaman geript
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2014 23:11 GMT
#5014
On June 21 2014 08:10 Rainbows wrote:
vayne is so town rn.

i dont like snb regardless of flips.


maybe i dont like you very much either did you thinkof that?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 21 2014 00:33 GMT
#5028
On June 21 2014 08:45 Chairman Ray wrote:
I also kinda like SnB a lot more. He was quite thoughtful for both his responses on why he wanted to lynch ritoky and then why he changed his mind. It's still alarming to me why he's playing like this all of a sudden. I'm going to re-evaluate my case on him.

i had to wait for like an hour or two while my crappy vacuum pump went to work on my experiment
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 21 2014 19:24 GMT
#5287
id rather lynch ketomai than ritocky so
##vote: ketomai
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 04:25 GMT
#5484
On June 23 2014 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
i think snb is a good choice to lynch, on the day everyone was going to lynch between mif and sandroba he came in and said they were both not lynch worthy and he thought it was actually town mif/sandroba out of the blue with little to no reasoning


pretty sure this isn't true? i said i would prefer a mif lynch and voted accordingly?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:13 GMT
#5542
On June 23 2014 15:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 15:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
who the fuck cares about "pro town," the only thing that matters at this point is lynching mafia.

the fact that youve thrown your vote away uselessly several times and have done next to nothing but post garbage all game, only to complain about "thread atmosphere" in lylo makes me think youre trying too hard to be town. you havent even cared about this game right up until this point, so i dont believe a word coming out of your mouth when you start complaining about the way im acting.

Very good!

Now my voting has indeed been less than optimal. But if you check the timings, it was usually setting two wagons even, encouraging choice. Usually I was ill informed, so I felt this would be the best course of action with my vote.

During this time town atmosphere was still good enough that I felt I could get a read, as it is now. I am duly pleased with myself.


This is the scummiest thought process behind voting I can imagine. I was ready to vote you just for this but then I got to the claims...
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:17 GMT
#5543
Wait we have 8 blue claims and no jailkeeper?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:19 GMT
#5544
Wait nvm exo never actually claimed medic like round said be did
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:24 GMT
#5545
On June 22 2014 08:05 Rainbows wrote:
Lol.

oh well.

round is mason btw. idc anymore thats all the info i have and why he is confirmed town to me. rip round.


Wait what
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 23 2014 14:24 GMT
#5546
On June 23 2014 22:50 roundabound wrote:
This blows. Just saw the nightkills results. That means they either have a vigi or 501st sgt just used his shot. Unless another town vigi wants to claim the shot on exo.

Town roles we know:

plammar: mason
koshi: vigi
Rainbows: mason
Marv: role cop
exo: medic
Chrom: tracker

That leaves 2 more. Will catch up with the thread now to see what else happened.

I don't know how explicit what me and rainbows were doing in the thread was, but it's probably more likely that an experienced mafia picked up on the role swap...unless everyone says that it was blatantly obvious.


Why is rainbows' claim that you are mason not on this list
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