EPTTL 'Order' LXVI Mafia - Page 262
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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On June 20 2014 04:31 ketomai wrote: I'm here, just been hella busy. I've contributed more than a lot of the people who are playing. I'll be able to play a bit more starting tomorrow and through the weekend. Apologies. On June 21 2014 13:45 ketomai wrote: l'm assuming something major happened...lol. Gonna be at a melee tournament at deadline again. So once again I've gotta skim by for one more day, sorry guys. These 2 posts alone are ridiculous. He even gets called out for not contributing more and just disappears for 33 hours to say he's afking again???? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Lynching lurker is hypocritical for me right now. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 21 2014 16:30 Alakaslam wrote: Hmm. Lynching lurker is hypocritical for me right now. not really because if you're town the list of lurkers that could be mafia are reduced | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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Holyflare
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Vote Count - Day 4: Chairman Ray (0): Ketomai (0): TicaTica (0): strongandbig (0): ritoky (11): VayneAuthority, TicaTica, Rainbows, Chromatically, Alakaslam, ExO_, Holyflare, 27ninjabunnies (2): roundabound (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (4): ritoky, sinani206, strongandbig, roundabound Currently ritoky is set to be lynched with 11 votes! Day will end in Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451311-tl-order-lxvi-thread-for-doing-of-the-voting If there is a tie, the first person to reach that number of votes is lynched. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 18 2014 12:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks, if we put any stock into marv's protection claim, then he's obviously going to be alive for quite a while. idk about hf though, i have him as town as of right now but its a toss up because his scumhunting is always weird imo. also, robik, answer my question. ive got a brand to maintain and im not gonna rep total shmucks. On June 20 2014 11:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: rainbows wants to lynch you too. also lets kill holyflare. what changed between these? | ||
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TicaTica
Costa Rica194 Posts
VA gets towny points for being absolutely fucking hilarious. I don't think it makes him town, but him making me smile and almost spew my drink makes me not want to lynch him for at least a couple days. In other news, when I saw the Ket post, I had the exact same reaction as HF. "Fuck that guy, let's lynch him." Otherwise, I skimmed the last 3-4 pages because it was a bunch of people who I really don't want to have to read posting over and over again. | ||
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TicaTica
Costa Rica194 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: ketomai | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
Hence why I signed up for a hydra. This is my last words to the thread this cycle. I am the parity cop. N1 I checked Mocsta N2 I checked Robik N3 I forgot to check D3 the host returned: SAME ~moc | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
Ritoky is not mafia. 27nb is. If you want to read through the filter yourself, go ahead, if not, I'll give you the relevant key points. In Golden Sun, Ritoky faked a claim against 27nb. He did it when 27nb wasn't around, and opened it off by discussing his claim with other people. In this game, Ritoky redclaimed against 27nb when 27nb wasn't on yet, and opened it off by discussing with Chrom. In Golden Sun, Ritoky did not really put much consideration into the option that he might get counterclaimed. In this game, Ritoky got screwed over when Chrom turned out to be miller. In Golden Sun, 27nb was not one of Ritoky's scumreads, but then he chose 27nb out of everyone to do the fakeclaim on. He didn't do the fakeclaim on someone he had as scum. In this game, 27nb was not one of Ritoky's scumreads, but then he just decided to fakeclaim on 27nb out of everyone. Ritoky basically just did the exact same sequence for the claim. This is exactly what he does as town on the exact same person, for the third time. He approached it the exact same way, and the only difference really is that he got counterclaimed this time. Does this mean that Ritoky is town? Not 100%, but it's likely, due to him performing his town strategy. He could also be faking it, but if that were the case, he would have probably said at some point that he's done this kind of thing before. He didn't say anything about doing this twice in previous games until I asked him specifically. Now let's look at 27nb. I would like to start off with this quote from Golden Sun, and a quote from this game On May 27 2014 05:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: Well you were freaking wrong... Like seriously... I would also like to reiterate that ritoky has fakeclaimed against 27nb in previous games as town twice. From reading 27nb's filter, it reads as if this is the first time 27nb has ever been fakeclaimed against. 27nb is fully aware that ritoky does this kind of thing as town and is used to it by now, so why is she responding this way? If 27nb thinks ritoky is town, she will allude to previous games and mention that ritoky fakeclaims as town and is terrible at it. If 27nb thinks ritoky is mafia, she might look for subtle differences between this game and what she's used to. But instead, we get responses like this: On June 21 2014 14:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: No, we are voting ritoky cause he fake claimed a red on a town, greened someone who claimed miller, and then when he realized it was going to shit, he rescinded and claimed VT. He will be a question mark from here on out unless a cop checked him, but even then he could be GF, so i think it's in town's best interest to get rid of him. 27nb is going strongly on Ritoky, but her reasonings are not that great. A lot of other people who voted Ritoky pointed to things that separate a town fakeclaiming to a mafia fakeclaiming. Tica's case is a good example. Even after everything, she concludes that Ritoky is just a question mark. Why does 27nb want to lynch Ritoky for being a question mark read, and even if cop checks him clean? That doesn't make any sense. I think I understand what OWS was talking about when he mentioned white-knighting. This seems to me like town is starting to think Ritoky might not be mafia, so the response from 27nb is to keep the lynch on Ritoky, regardless of his role or cop check. This is a really mafia thing to do, especially this close to mylo. I'm gonna have to consider this a bit more in the morning, but I can't imagine 27nb's response to ritoky's fakeclaim being like this if she's well aware that ritoky does this kind of thing. She's being quite defensive and is pushing really hard for this lynch despite not having any reads on Ritoky's alignment. What really changed between this game and the previous ones? It makes sense if 27nb is mafia this time around. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
##vote: 27ninjabunnies Going to bed now. Hopefully I'll be here tomorrow before the deadline. Please reconsider the case on ritoky. | ||
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
##vote keto | ||
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Rainbows
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
how stupid | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
I'll be back later. | ||
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