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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 21 2014 06:20 GMT
#5201
actually, hold up i need to fact check that before i start hunting for ghosts again.
Retired.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 06:23 GMT
#5202
On June 21 2014 15:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 15:14 Chairman Ray wrote:
OWS, could you explain to me where I'm doing the white-knighting thing and why that makes me mafia in your eyes?


day 2.

and also your "lynching for information" post in regards to ritoky was so unbelievably bad that you should die for that alone.


I'm not lynching ritoky for information. My vote is currently on ritoky because the way in which he came out as cop does not line up at all with a town fakeclaiming cop to pressure someone.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 21 2014 06:24 GMT
#5203
On June 21 2014 15:23 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 15:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 21 2014 15:14 Chairman Ray wrote:
OWS, could you explain to me where I'm doing the white-knighting thing and why that makes me mafia in your eyes?


day 2.

and also your "lynching for information" post in regards to ritoky was so unbelievably bad that you should die for that alone.


I'm not lynching ritoky for information. My vote is currently on ritoky because the way in which he came out as cop does not line up at all with a town fakeclaiming cop to pressure someone.


to be fair though, the way i fake claimed cop is so bad that it doesn't really line up with anything.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 06:27 GMT
#5204
On June 21 2014 15:24 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 15:23 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 15:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 21 2014 15:14 Chairman Ray wrote:
OWS, could you explain to me where I'm doing the white-knighting thing and why that makes me mafia in your eyes?


day 2.

and also your "lynching for information" post in regards to ritoky was so unbelievably bad that you should die for that alone.


I'm not lynching ritoky for information. My vote is currently on ritoky because the way in which he came out as cop does not line up at all with a town fakeclaiming cop to pressure someone.


to be fair though, the way i fake claimed cop is so bad that it doesn't really line up with anything.


That's why I'm still here talking about this
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 21 2014 06:28 GMT
#5205
On June 21 2014 14:38 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 14:33 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:30 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:24 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:22 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Nope, i didn't get recruited.


oh, well in the end game listing i swore it said you got recruited...must have been part of that mod error.

Must have been, cause i never got a message.

But anyway, it doesnt matter if I was recuited or not. You fake claimed red on me when i was town.

Both times.

And this time.

Your read on me is awful.


Was he town those times? Was it just as bad as this one?


i've never not rolled town on TL forums. not a signle time.

and she's not giving credit to my read on her, it was dead on in 2/3 games. to be determined after this game if it's 75% or 50%.


If you've had this much practice redclaiming 27nb when you're town, I would expect a lot better this time.


btw you still haven't responded to my question.

who, outside of me, do you think looks most scummy from this entire interaction? why?


I think your alignment will give us important info, but this entire interaction is null. If you flip VT, it was perfectly reasonable for mafia to push on you, passively vote you, or defend you for town cred. It's also perfectly reasonable for town to do all these things. I'm not gonna speculate too deeply into this now because you haven't flipped yet.


you are CR. you are doing exactly that. you should die for this post alone.

also, the white knighting thing doesnt apply. i thought it did but i dont have the word to describe what you did in regards to yesterday's lynch. someone else hit a nail on the head when you pretended to care about the 3 townies getting lynched after doing nothing, though.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 06:31 GMT
#5206
On June 21 2014 15:24 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 15:23 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 15:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 21 2014 15:14 Chairman Ray wrote:
OWS, could you explain to me where I'm doing the white-knighting thing and why that makes me mafia in your eyes?


day 2.

and also your "lynching for information" post in regards to ritoky was so unbelievably bad that you should die for that alone.


I'm not lynching ritoky for information. My vote is currently on ritoky because the way in which he came out as cop does not line up at all with a town fakeclaiming cop to pressure someone.


to be fair though, the way i fake claimed cop is so bad that it doesn't really line up with anything.


If someone other than you is going to be lynched today it has to be because people think you're town. Having "formal" reasons for picking bunnies as your red read might help. Maybe you should make a case. Even if you get lynched, we'll be able to quote it later.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 06:38 GMT
#5207
Also maybe you actually should vote bunnies since you said she was mafia and all. Just saying.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 06:38 GMT
#5208
On June 21 2014 15:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 14:38 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:33 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:30 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:24 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:22 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:15 ritoky wrote:
On June 21 2014 14:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Nope, i didn't get recruited.


oh, well in the end game listing i swore it said you got recruited...must have been part of that mod error.

Must have been, cause i never got a message.

But anyway, it doesnt matter if I was recuited or not. You fake claimed red on me when i was town.

Both times.

And this time.

Your read on me is awful.


Was he town those times? Was it just as bad as this one?


i've never not rolled town on TL forums. not a signle time.

and she's not giving credit to my read on her, it was dead on in 2/3 games. to be determined after this game if it's 75% or 50%.


If you've had this much practice redclaiming 27nb when you're town, I would expect a lot better this time.


btw you still haven't responded to my question.

who, outside of me, do you think looks most scummy from this entire interaction? why?


I think your alignment will give us important info, but this entire interaction is null. If you flip VT, it was perfectly reasonable for mafia to push on you, passively vote you, or defend you for town cred. It's also perfectly reasonable for town to do all these things. I'm not gonna speculate too deeply into this now because you haven't flipped yet.


you are CR. you are doing exactly that. you should die for this post alone.

also, the white knighting thing doesnt apply. i thought it did but i dont have the word to describe what you did in regards to yesterday's lynch. someone else hit a nail on the head when you pretended to care about the 3 townies getting lynched after doing nothing, though.


Looks like we have a bit of a misunderstanding here. Ritoky asked me that if he hypothetically flipped town, what information can I gain from it. My answer was that his flip gave us some information, which is pretty much a given since everyone's flip gives us information. That was the best answer I could give because he asked me this on the spot and I haven't really considered this too much. Let me make it clear that I did not suggest at all that I want to lynch ritoky for information
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 21 2014 06:41 GMT
#5209
i dont believe a word coming out of your mouth.

die pls.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 06:41 GMT
#5210
Wait Ritoky shouldn't you have voted bunnies as soon as you told the thread she was mafia? Why did you never vote her? I'm trying to play devil's advocate here and defend you but this isn't easy. Unless the host messed up it says you never voted her.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 06:42 GMT
#5211
On June 21 2014 15:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i dont believe a word coming out of your mouth.

die pls.


Ok seriously? Go through my filter and look through all my interaction with the ritoky case. I have no idea how you come up with the conclusion that I just want to lynch him for information.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 21 2014 06:44 GMT
#5212
On June 21 2014 15:41 batsnacks wrote:
Wait Ritoky shouldn't you have voted bunnies as soon as you told the thread she was mafia? Why did you never vote her? I'm trying to play devil's advocate here and defend you but this isn't easy. Unless the host messed up it says you never voted her.


doesnt really matter if he never had a red check on her.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 06:45 GMT
#5213
On June 21 2014 15:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 15:41 batsnacks wrote:
Wait Ritoky shouldn't you have voted bunnies as soon as you told the thread she was mafia? Why did you never vote her? I'm trying to play devil's advocate here and defend you but this isn't easy. Unless the host messed up it says you never voted her.


doesnt really matter if he never had a red check on her.


It DOES matter because he told us he had a red check on her. Usually when you say you have a red check on someone you vote them?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 06:47 GMT
#5214
On June 21 2014 15:45 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 15:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 21 2014 15:41 batsnacks wrote:
Wait Ritoky shouldn't you have voted bunnies as soon as you told the thread she was mafia? Why did you never vote her? I'm trying to play devil's advocate here and defend you but this isn't easy. Unless the host messed up it says you never voted her.


doesnt really matter if he never had a red check on her.


It DOES matter because he told us he had a red check on her. Usually when you say you have a red check on someone you vote them?


I think it makes sense. Both a mafia or a town fakeclaiming cop may forget to place the vote, especially ritoky.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 21 2014 06:49 GMT
#5215
On June 21 2014 15:45 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 15:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 21 2014 15:41 batsnacks wrote:
Wait Ritoky shouldn't you have voted bunnies as soon as you told the thread she was mafia? Why did you never vote her? I'm trying to play devil's advocate here and defend you but this isn't easy. Unless the host messed up it says you never voted her.


doesnt really matter if he never had a red check on her.


It DOES matter because he told us he had a red check on her. Usually when you say you have a red check on someone you vote them?


unless you don't actually have a red check.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 21 2014 06:52 GMT
#5216
Regardless, if ritoky were town, wouldn't it make more sense to vote bunnies now?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 21 2014 06:55 GMT
#5217
if he thinks bunnies is scum, yeah.

i think there are several issues with expecting him to do things at this point though.
Retired.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 21 2014 07:10 GMT
#5218
Been at a party, and I'm catching up. Skimming through it looks like ritoky is saying he's going to flip VT. That's vanilla town right? Am I missing something or does that make absolutely no sense, why the fake claim?

Also has anybody stepped up and claimed to have the role that Ritoky was fake claiming?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 07:18 GMT
#5219
On June 21 2014 16:10 ExO_ wrote:
Been at a party, and I'm catching up. Skimming through it looks like ritoky is saying he's going to flip VT. That's vanilla town right? Am I missing something or does that make absolutely no sense, why the fake claim?

Also has anybody stepped up and claimed to have the role that Ritoky was fake claiming?


Chrom is the miller, which proved ritoky's claim false. Ritoky rescinded and claimed VT. Nobody has claimed cop yet, and unless he knows ritoky is town or someone else is mafia, there isn't a good reason to come out.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 21 2014 07:19 GMT
#5220
Also, I'm looking through ritoky's old games and finding the two times where he fakeclaimed against 27nb. Golden Sun is one of them, I can't find the other. Anyone know of it?
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