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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Vote Count – Day 3 The_Templar (2): GlowingBear, Hobbitus Not Voting (7): HaruRH, TehPoofter, MeatPudding, Teemursu, Epishade, mtamburini, The_Templar Currently, The_Templar is set to be lynched with 2 votes. As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 3 will end in (04:00 GMT (+00:00)). | ||
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Hobbitus
222 Posts
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mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
Will do vote analysis tomorrow. Going to bed now super tired was modding a Video Game. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
Rest in peace TheKingofTheCrappythingsthatdistractme <3 | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On June 27 2014 14:03 mtamburini wrote: All vts are dying did we really get stuck with no roles this game? Will do vote analysis tomorrow. Going to bed now super tired was modding a Video Game. So bunch of dead Vt's Cop with red check out today. If you have two green checks alive probably out otherwise use your own judgement. Vigi might consider claiming. Medic don't claim. I might be all of these roles or none. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On June 27 2014 12:58 Hobbitus wrote: Also, Haru's argument that tamburini was scummier than anyone else bc he's annoying is garbs, too much of a knee jerk reaction for town? Don't think you understand the value of having town that are able to express their own opinions properly, make a proper case to push and help identify scum. Lol I never said he was scummier than anyone. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On June 27 2014 13:23 Hobbitus wrote: Last note of the night, I promise. HARU, YOU CONFUSE ME SO. Some posts you seem so town, others so scum. I'm willing to be called scum if it drives everyone to meaningful and substantiated reads and votes. After all, it's a newbie mafia game and we should all learn to engage in proper analysis and stuff instead of trolling. I'm pretty harsh on trolling in mafia games during critical junctions. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On June 27 2014 10:28 Hobbitus wrote: Well something he did during the MM/mp lynch fight struck me as scummy but I put it in the back of my mind bc I was reading him as super town at the time. Let me find the posts. But not only that, after everyone initially townread him, he got really quiet for a while. His number of posts is decent, but... he really doesn't say too much that isn't either an obvious defense (like defending me when I clearly said one thing and Haru was pushing as another) or posts to appease anyone who says anything negative about him. Now obviously town doesn't want to be seen as scum but the WAY he does it shouts "I want no confrontation." I'm ok with hobbitus's arguments but this weird. So you mean that you scumread him during the mm/meatpudding lynch d1, but gave him a townread?? Are you trying to jump ship so that you won't be held accountable for voting a strong townread? | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
Nice wagon between you two btw, reading the rest of the posts | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 27 2014 21:56 The_Templar wrote: Beginning wake-up processes… Nice wagon between you two btw, reading the rest of the posts (hobbitus + glowing) | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 27 2014 15:01 Tehpoofter wrote: So bunch of dead Vt's Cop with red check out today. If you have two green checks alive probably out otherwise use your own judgement. Vigi might consider claiming. Medic don't claim. I might be all of these roles or none. There's still no medic. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On June 27 2014 21:56 The_Templar wrote: Beginning wake-up processes… Nice wagon between you two btw, reading the rest of the posts So what do you have to defend yourself? Please don't run away from defense like jabber/scott/nydus. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 27 2014 15:29 HaruRH wrote: I'm ok with hobbitus's arguments but this weird. So you mean that you scumread him during the mm/meatpudding lynch d1, but gave him a townread?? Are you trying to jump ship so that you won't be held accountable for voting a strong townread? One outlier does not a scum read make, until you feel like it. I'm not sure why Hobbitus and GlowingBear wait until day 3 to jump on someone and stick on him, and I'm still not sure why that someone is me… I'm finding some interesting patterns in your posts Hobbitus. Currently reading into them. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On June 27 2014 21:56 The_Templar wrote: Beginning wake-up processes… Nice wagon between you two btw, reading the rest of the posts I'm not starting a wagon, in starting a crusade. I and Hobbitus had similar behaviours. It means nothing, only a slight suggestion we have the same alignment. I invite everyone to read through my last night post and judge if I don't have fair reasoning. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On June 27 2014 12:56 Hobbitus wrote: Summary post: Reads (and stuff I'm thinking about atm) HaruRH-scum (says tolkien was shot bc on to mafia-obvious answer) Thekingofthecats-town (gets caught up in the details) GlowingBear-town (adorable but in that clueless animal way) (could be wrong, suspicious about blue role posts/not changing his vote last night) Meatpudding-town (suspect both wagons D1 were town, never had convincing case against) Epishade-scum (see post) mtamburini-town (too annoying to be scum) The_Templar-scum (see post) (also, really conscious of how posts sound when they don't even sound scummy/clarifying when he doesn't need to etc/not changing his vote last night) Teemu-town (for actions during D2 EOD, consolidation of votes etc) What I think we should focus on D3: -why was Tolkien shot? (My guess is that it had something to do with mp, and that it was probably mafia who killed him) -take a look at the whole bear calling haru blue and then haru being roleblocked thing, mafia shouldn't roleblock based on the opinion of one townie. -possibility: if bear, templar and epi are scum, it could explain why templar/bear never changed their vote last night. didn't want epi to get lynched and yet knew the case on nydus was really stupid Your knee jerk reaction that quickly scumread both me and Templar for consistency have made me decide to scumread you now. Your arguments on my scumminess 'says tolkien was shot bc on to mafia-obvious answer' is not a good point at all. Epishade said the same thing. Meatpudding said the same thing. Granted, you scumread epi, but no good reason was given either. Either you're panicking or your knee jerk reaction is to lead town towards lynching all their top town targets. Scum motive. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 27 2014 22:22 HaruRH wrote: So what do you have to defend yourself? Please don't run away from defense like jabber/scott/nydus. I'm not running away. That would be stupid. However, it's unfortunate for me that I'm being pushed for stuff I ALWAYS do, regardless of alignment. My opinion is variable so that I can see issues from other people's point of view, and because I can't ever reliably defend an entrenched position that I have. Now, scum reading me because I look too consistent is very, very strange, considering the general flow of this game has been lynching because of inconsistency. I know they ended up being vanilla town, but I think a lot of us can agree that they looked scummy, so why does the opposite look scummy as well? | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 27 2014 22:29 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not starting a wagon, in starting a crusade. I and Hobbitus had similar behaviours. It means nothing, only a slight suggestion we have the same alignment. I invite everyone to read through my last night post and judge if I don't have fair reasoning. "Crusade"? Seriously…? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Pun wasn't intended :/ | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On June 27 2014 12:59 GlowingBear wrote: I'm having a feeling that I'm dying this night. So, I would like to share thoughts in case I don't live. I've being filter diving a lot this night and was waiting for the night results. While filter diving, an idea crossed my mind. We've been discussing how contradictory some players were looking and we were judging their alignment solely on that. What happened? 4 townies died. Of course, 1 modkill and 1 nightkill. But still, ALL OF THEM were contradictory. Which means that being contradictory isn't necessary a scum signal. It may help identify one, but it's secondary. If we've lost so many by attacking their contradictory posts, what do we have here? A very consistent Mafia, that is. A Mafia who is well connected and using the information they have to lead the mislynches. To find the Mafia in this game we must not search for people being inconsistent in their posts. We have to search for people that are not compromising themselves in their votes, in their analysis. People that are not raising flags but following town misreads so they will win a mislynch. They contribute for the mislynch but they do not compromise themselves by doing so. There are some who are doing this. In order of my suspicions, The_Templar, Epishade, Hobbitus, Teemu, Haru. (Have in my this takes off my scumread on meatpudding). I think The_Templar is the one shines the most here, IMO. If you filter dive through his filters, he is not starting pushes to force town agenda. He is actually following these misleads. It started with meatpudding, then he found a better vote on MysteryMeat1. Next, he went to jabber when he completely acted contradictory (easy vote, everybody was voting on contradictory people). If you are not sure what I am talking about, dive through his filters. You will see his passivity (is this a word?) then his easy votes. Have in mind that this interpretation implies that Mafia really did split their votes on Day2 so Nydus would be an easy kill. One last thing: dive through scott's short filter and compare to mtamburini's. I haven't done this but I think this is important, it might give some clues on his alignment. I hope this help townies on D3! I probably had more to say but it's getting close to the deadline and I don't think I have more time to "evolve" my logic. PS: I've asked a list on top scum and top town so it might give me an insight on who are the Mason Couple, but I have failed to do so =/ PS: I'm not sure if this is obvious or not, but this is my first Mafia game ever, so this insight came to me... PS3: FORGOT TO CHECK KOTC FILTERS PLEASE DO SO. I lost you there. So mafias are consistent? Towns are inconsistent? You're flipping all the knowledge I ever had of mafia. Also, passivity is not a good case for scum. much like I can call you out for being inconsistent with your reads. 'he is not starting pushes to force town agenda. He is actually following these misleads'. you're doing the same till d3. So can I lynch you based on that? | ||
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