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I'm about to leave work and I'll finish reading I've read everything since I started posting and read from the start of the day 1 until page 26 Just going to let people know where I'm at.
Village: Tehpoofter, Teemu, Templar, TheKingoftheCars
People who need more pressure: Anyone who hasn't posted more than twice in the time since I got here. Mtamburini come join us, Hobbitus, jabber, Haru like to see a bit more from you.
Want to see how the nydus/gummy thing plays out. Meatpudding hasn't done anything and everyone thinks hes scum so he probably should show up if hes town.
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On June 25 2014 11:53 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 11:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
IMo nydus your next post should be the reasons and or case you have on gummy please and thank you. I've given my reason for voting on glowingbear multiple times
Did you? wtf? Just cause you needed to vote?
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On June 25 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 11:53 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
IMo nydus your next post should be the reasons and or case you have on gummy please and thank you. I've given my reason for voting on glowingbear multiple times After a quick glance through your filter...no you have not. Do you actually have any reasons for thinking GB is scummy or is it just a pressure vote with no pressure points?
so villagery
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On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:34 Tehpoofter wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2014 07:57 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 05:57 Tehpoofter wrote:GOOD NEWS FOLKS I have come to save this village from imminent fail. I never should have left Teemu and Nydus in charge. I will give mafia an hour to concede. At which point if our town surrender demands are not met I will begin referring to mafia as wolves to further degrade them and calling them out one by one. I have linked the hero before me's beautiful filter for full analysis: On June 21 2014 22:48 Solar424 wrote:
Hello. I am new to TL, and this is the first time playing Mafia online, bu I know the rules. RIP Solar424 2014-2014. Oh good, I guess mafia is surrendering in a few minutes.  Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 06:05 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, if there's anything you want to talk about while you're going through the pages, let me know! You may have said it before but who is your top wolf/village. (<<<<<<<<<<ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION) Please use the following format. Top Town: Tehpoofter
Town: Mr.White, Colonel MustardWolfy: Professor Plum, Mr. Green
OUTTED WOLF: The Candlestick The_Templar
KOTC
Hobbitus
Haru* Tehpoofter Epishade* mtamburini, GlowingBear*
Teemu* Nydus*
Jabberwockzerg
Meatpudding
*Going to talk about these further mtamburini is in the center, bolded, to draw the line between more mafia and more scum, as I have literally zero clue about his alignment so far (he hasn't posted ). Only the ones in green/red I have any strong feelings about. Haru: Only not green because he's sort of erratic. He's jumped immediately onto people for small mistakes, which is ok, but he's also sometimes making assumptions (It's not unlikely but he takes it as completely true). He does a lot of extra stuff I wanted to do to look town in my first game, particularly making a list of important posts and asking a LOT of questions, both of which I like this game. Epishade: He made one suspicious post so far, which knocked him down quite a bit on my list as well as everyone else's. Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 14:35 Epishade wrote:
Ermm, I was really not expecting Token to get shot, of all people. I expected either myself, Haruhi, or Templar to die tbh, as we've all been townread for the majority of the game by most people. Token could have been a potential case if someone were to call him out, so I have a hard time rationalizing why mafia would shoot Token over someone more townie.
The only way I can see Token's shot being justified is if mafia thought he was on the right track and shot him to get rid of him, because objectively, that looked like a bad shot to me. You usually shoot people that have little chance of getting lynched for reading townie, but there seemed to be enough suspicion on Token (or at least, more than the three people I listed above) for me to think that that wasn't the reason he was shot.
There are a few people that Token scumreads over day 1, and I think that probably played a part in his death.
His scumreads:
JabberZerg (initially, then changed his mind to a townread at 4:00, which wouldn't have given mafia time to change their shot if JabberZerg wanted to keep Token alive for townreading him, assuming that Jabber is mafia)
meatpudding
Teemursu
Cats
His townreads:
Haruhi
Templar
me
Hobbit (only in his post at 4:00)
Fence reads:
Nydus
Dunno reads:
GlowBear
Other peoples
So I think the cases should probably be focused on people in his scum list at this point. I mean, he did say for people to look at me, GlowBear, and Nydus day 2 in his 4:02 post, but I'm not considering these specifically right now because they came too late to be able to influence mafia, and I'm only looking at the reasoning for shooting Token here over someone else.
He also asked me to post my reads on him, Cats, and meatpudding at this point, too, but I woke up too early today and am dead tired. I'll post my reads on everybody I have reads for sometime tomorrow after I wake up.
Night all. Why did he assume that Tolkien's scum list influenced the mafia's decision, and why did he assume that Tolkien's list was even accurate (he didn't ever have a read on him)? Sort of odd… but he has followed up on his promise to post read this day (it's a good list too, you should read it), which is more than a lot of people in this game have done, and admitted he was wrong about his assumptions instead of insisting we were wrong (a lot of people have done this). GlowingBear: Null reads galore at the beginning of the game, sort of jumping on stuff a bit late, but does offer some short analysis quite often (more lists the possibilities than concluding anything). Not sure about him. In addition, this post: Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:On June 24 2014 03:04 HaruRH wrote:On June 24 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Haru is dangerous because he leads our reads. He ask questions to be answered and, therefore, changes the route of our reasoning. If he is scum, he has got us on his hands.
But I never saw any scum sign in his posts. I think he ask good questions that may help town. So, I think he is townie.  please don't think of me this way Haha don't worry, I have good feelings towards you. You sound greeny, even blueish to me. I just like to cover all possibilities. I'd be too naive if I didn't. Overly casual townie, or subtle scum trying to get town panicking? I bet you can't tell. Teemu: I don't like a lot of what he's been doing and he's too consistent in this game. He's pretty much been reading me as town for the whole game, without really clarifying it. After he straightened out what he meant by me being towny earlier, he stopped addressing me completely. Exactly the same situation with Nydus. But when he reads a mafia, he doesn't let go, instead continually emphasizing how much he thinks they're mafia (see meatpudding). And even though he's been trying to take charge of the town, he still used GlowingBear to create a scum read out of Epishade when he had him as on the fence, not really drawing his own conclusions. Also, what the hell is this? Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:26 Teemursu wrote:On June 25 2014 06:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
It's just as hard to read Tehpoofter in forum mafia as it is to read him in video mafia it appears -_- .... I'll have a large writeup in about 2 hours. I want to just make one big post with what I think about everyone in general Great. More posts that I don't want to read. However, he's really aggressive, friendly and I think he's trying to be/seem helpful so I don't want to put him on my scum list right now. Nydus: Do something helpful and not directly related to Teemu and I'll move you back to neutral. Are we talking about the same post Templar? This one I have spoiled above is the one you made which includes his original post in it. I have bolded where you thought it was scummy. I just find it odd that you thought it was scummy then since then hadn't commented that you no longer felt that way and feel the need to quite strongly disagree with me. I wasn't talking about that post, no. I was talking about his clarification later: On June 25 2014 10:47 Epishade wrote:On June 25 2014 09:49 NydusHerMain wrote:EpishadeMeatPuddingTeemuHobbitusJabberWockZergHaruRH (yeah I'm that confused about HaruRH ._.) The_Templar TheKingOfCatsIf the person isn't listed, they haven't said enough for me to remember them in particular. If they aren't on the list, I'm going to say leaning scum but not comfortable voting on. I think my town list is too big but I'll re-evaluate it later. With respect to the EOD, I'll stay up to make sure I make it. I'm also not comfortable voting on TheKingOfCats right now because I feel like he's becoming more and more towny. I was more convinced he was mafia on day 1. I'll start voting when I see something scummy as fuck. Honestly, I'm surprised you put me at the top of your list. Even I wouldn't put myself there lol. I read your explanation and, though I'm glad you read me as townie, even I'd still have my suspicions about me if I were in your place over my Token being shot post. To put me over someone who hasn't made anybody suspicious all game, like Templar, who you left null, seems like a strange choice to me. I know I lost a bit of townieness when I posted my Token post. I knew I would before I posted it actually, but I'd rather post information that I thought would be relevant in catching scum and lose townie cred than ignore it altogether due to wifom. Actually, I thought that somebody might bring up the idea that I was scum, and that I shot Token just so I could make that post and throw off town's track, but nobody posted suspicions about that. Instead people posted that I had neglected some scenarios, which is true, too. The post you quoted, I still think is a bit scummy, and yeah I'm not super sure about Epishade anymore. I was just trying to clarify what he said later. Ok we were talking about two different posts for a bit I thought I was taking crazy pills or something. lol. BTW Nydus is scum. If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro"
I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum?
I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip.
Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO.
On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions.
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On June 25 2014 11:59 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 11:57 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 25 2014 11:37 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:28 NydusHerMain wrote:
##Vote: GlowingBear
towny feel isn't good enough for me, clearly mafia Maybe I need glasses but I don't see how he is clearly mafia please tell me why. You made a 2 hour post about how Meatpudding was town and you make a 1 line post about the adorable person being scum..... Man I really like where my vote is at. More people should join me on the Nydus wagon I think this guy is mafia. On June 25 2014 11:25 Tehpoofter wrote:
If you're not voting for anyone do so please. People need to be pressured. Sorry you didn't catch that. My scum read has a long ass filter, a lot of my town reads have a long ass filter, my weakass town read has a very low content filter. I think the best thing for you to do now is read that long ass filter and put forward a case on your scumread. Read my post again. You're reading townier for me right now because of the way you're pushing on me.
You posted this:
On June 25 2014 11:37 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 11:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:28 NydusHerMain wrote:
##Vote: GlowingBear
towny feel isn't good enough for me, clearly mafia Maybe I need glasses but I don't see how he is clearly mafia please tell me why. You made a 2 hour post about how Meatpudding was town and you make a 1 line post about the adorable person being scum..... Man I really like where my vote is at. More people should join me on the Nydus wagon I think this guy is mafia. Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 11:25 Tehpoofter wrote:
If you're not voting for anyone do so please. People need to be pressured. Sorry you didn't catch that. My scum read has a long ass filter, a lot of my town reads have a long ass filter, my weakass town read has a very low content filter.
After you posted this:
On June 25 2014 11:34 NydusHerMain wrote:@TheKingOfTheCats I was reading through the filter and didn't actually have many specific posts in particular to quote but in general, you seemed very defensive and you were asking a lot of questions but that was it. You weren't giving any opinions on people's alignments until the bandwagon on MysterMeat1 started. My initial scumread started with this post where you reacted to Teemu before you reacted to MeatPudding. Ever since then throughout the first day, you had a scummy vibe stick with you. Day two, you're definitely feeling a lot townier, especially with your questioning and the way you seem frustrated that I'm not responding to you immediately. On the flip side, you are being quite defensive which could be mafia indicative.
So i assumed you weren't talking about me.
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On June 25 2014 12:02 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:34 Tehpoofter wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2014 07:57 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 05:57 Tehpoofter wrote:GOOD NEWS FOLKS I have come to save this village from imminent fail. I never should have left Teemu and Nydus in charge. I will give mafia an hour to concede. At which point if our town surrender demands are not met I will begin referring to mafia as wolves to further degrade them and calling them out one by one. I have linked the hero before me's beautiful filter for full analysis: On June 21 2014 22:48 Solar424 wrote:
Hello. I am new to TL, and this is the first time playing Mafia online, bu I know the rules. RIP Solar424 2014-2014. Oh good, I guess mafia is surrendering in a few minutes. Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 06:05 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, if there's anything you want to talk about while you're going through the pages, let me know! You may have said it before but who is your top wolf/village. (<<<<<<<<<<ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION) Please use the following format. Top Town: Tehpoofter
Town: Mr.White, Colonel MustardWolfy: Professor Plum, Mr. Green
OUTTED WOLF: The Candlestick The_Templar
KOTC
Hobbitus
Haru* Tehpoofter Epishade* mtamburini, GlowingBear*
Teemu* Nydus*
Jabberwockzerg
Meatpudding
*Going to talk about these further mtamburini is in the center, bolded, to draw the line between more mafia and more scum, as I have literally zero clue about his alignment so far (he hasn't posted ). Only the ones in green/red I have any strong feelings about. Haru: Only not green because he's sort of erratic. He's jumped immediately onto people for small mistakes, which is ok, but he's also sometimes making assumptions (It's not unlikely but he takes it as completely true). He does a lot of extra stuff I wanted to do to look town in my first game, particularly making a list of important posts and asking a LOT of questions, both of which I like this game. Epishade: He made one suspicious post so far, which knocked him down quite a bit on my list as well as everyone else's. Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 14:35 Epishade wrote:
Ermm, I was really not expecting Token to get shot, of all people. I expected either myself, Haruhi, or Templar to die tbh, as we've all been townread for the majority of the game by most people. Token could have been a potential case if someone were to call him out, so I have a hard time rationalizing why mafia would shoot Token over someone more townie.
The only way I can see Token's shot being justified is if mafia thought he was on the right track and shot him to get rid of him, because objectively, that looked like a bad shot to me. You usually shoot people that have little chance of getting lynched for reading townie, but there seemed to be enough suspicion on Token (or at least, more than the three people I listed above) for me to think that that wasn't the reason he was shot.
There are a few people that Token scumreads over day 1, and I think that probably played a part in his death.
His scumreads:
JabberZerg (initially, then changed his mind to a townread at 4:00, which wouldn't have given mafia time to change their shot if JabberZerg wanted to keep Token alive for townreading him, assuming that Jabber is mafia)
meatpudding
Teemursu
Cats
His townreads:
Haruhi
Templar
me
Hobbit (only in his post at 4:00)
Fence reads:
Nydus
Dunno reads:
GlowBear
Other peoples
So I think the cases should probably be focused on people in his scum list at this point. I mean, he did say for people to look at me, GlowBear, and Nydus day 2 in his 4:02 post, but I'm not considering these specifically right now because they came too late to be able to influence mafia, and I'm only looking at the reasoning for shooting Token here over someone else.
He also asked me to post my reads on him, Cats, and meatpudding at this point, too, but I woke up too early today and am dead tired. I'll post my reads on everybody I have reads for sometime tomorrow after I wake up.
Night all. Why did he assume that Tolkien's scum list influenced the mafia's decision, and why did he assume that Tolkien's list was even accurate (he didn't ever have a read on him)? Sort of odd… but he has followed up on his promise to post read this day (it's a good list too, you should read it), which is more than a lot of people in this game have done, and admitted he was wrong about his assumptions instead of insisting we were wrong (a lot of people have done this). GlowingBear: Null reads galore at the beginning of the game, sort of jumping on stuff a bit late, but does offer some short analysis quite often (more lists the possibilities than concluding anything). Not sure about him. In addition, this post: Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:On June 24 2014 03:04 HaruRH wrote:On June 24 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Haru is dangerous because he leads our reads. He ask questions to be answered and, therefore, changes the route of our reasoning. If he is scum, he has got us on his hands.
But I never saw any scum sign in his posts. I think he ask good questions that may help town. So, I think he is townie. please don't think of me this way Haha don't worry, I have good feelings towards you. You sound greeny, even blueish to me. I just like to cover all possibilities. I'd be too naive if I didn't. Overly casual townie, or subtle scum trying to get town panicking? I bet you can't tell. Teemu: I don't like a lot of what he's been doing and he's too consistent in this game. He's pretty much been reading me as town for the whole game, without really clarifying it. After he straightened out what he meant by me being towny earlier, he stopped addressing me completely. Exactly the same situation with Nydus. But when he reads a mafia, he doesn't let go, instead continually emphasizing how much he thinks they're mafia (see meatpudding). And even though he's been trying to take charge of the town, he still used GlowingBear to create a scum read out of Epishade when he had him as on the fence, not really drawing his own conclusions. Also, what the hell is this? Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:26 Teemursu wrote:On June 25 2014 06:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
It's just as hard to read Tehpoofter in forum mafia as it is to read him in video mafia it appears -_- .... I'll have a large writeup in about 2 hours. I want to just make one big post with what I think about everyone in general Great. More posts that I don't want to read. However, he's really aggressive, friendly and I think he's trying to be/seem helpful so I don't want to put him on my scum list right now. Nydus: Do something helpful and not directly related to Teemu and I'll move you back to neutral. Are we talking about the same post Templar? This one I have spoiled above is the one you made which includes his original post in it. I have bolded where you thought it was scummy. I just find it odd that you thought it was scummy then since then hadn't commented that you no longer felt that way and feel the need to quite strongly disagree with me. I wasn't talking about that post, no. I was talking about his clarification later: On June 25 2014 10:47 Epishade wrote:On June 25 2014 09:49 NydusHerMain wrote:EpishadeMeatPuddingTeemuHobbitusJabberWockZergHaruRH (yeah I'm that confused about HaruRH ._.) The_Templar TheKingOfCatsIf the person isn't listed, they haven't said enough for me to remember them in particular. If they aren't on the list, I'm going to say leaning scum but not comfortable voting on. I think my town list is too big but I'll re-evaluate it later. With respect to the EOD, I'll stay up to make sure I make it. I'm also not comfortable voting on TheKingOfCats right now because I feel like he's becoming more and more towny. I was more convinced he was mafia on day 1. I'll start voting when I see something scummy as fuck. Honestly, I'm surprised you put me at the top of your list. Even I wouldn't put myself there lol. I read your explanation and, though I'm glad you read me as townie, even I'd still have my suspicions about me if I were in your place over my Token being shot post. To put me over someone who hasn't made anybody suspicious all game, like Templar, who you left null, seems like a strange choice to me. I know I lost a bit of townieness when I posted my Token post. I knew I would before I posted it actually, but I'd rather post information that I thought would be relevant in catching scum and lose townie cred than ignore it altogether due to wifom. Actually, I thought that somebody might bring up the idea that I was scum, and that I shot Token just so I could make that post and throw off town's track, but nobody posted suspicions about that. Instead people posted that I had neglected some scenarios, which is true, too. The post you quoted, I still think is a bit scummy, and yeah I'm not super sure about Epishade anymore. I was just trying to clarify what he said later. Ok we were talking about two different posts for a bit I thought I was taking crazy pills or something. lol. BTW Nydus is scum. If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro" I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum? I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip. Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO. On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions.
Poofter said, we should put more pressure on people, so I decided to try and garner a reaction from someone I didn't have a strong opinion on. I got buried for it instead. My bad. You can pressure who you want if you think they're scummy. I like epishade, and I like meatpudding as town.
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On June 25 2014 12:02 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 11:53 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
IMo nydus your next post should be the reasons and or case you have on gummy please and thank you. I've given my reason for voting on glowingbear multiple times Did you? wtf? Just cause you needed to vote?
No because you said we needed pressure on people and I agreed so I wanted to pressure people.
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On June 25 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 12:02 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:34 Tehpoofter wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2014 07:57 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 05:57 Tehpoofter wrote:GOOD NEWS FOLKS I have come to save this village from imminent fail. I never should have left Teemu and Nydus in charge. I will give mafia an hour to concede. At which point if our town surrender demands are not met I will begin referring to mafia as wolves to further degrade them and calling them out one by one. I have linked the hero before me's beautiful filter for full analysis: On June 21 2014 22:48 Solar424 wrote:
Hello. I am new to TL, and this is the first time playing Mafia online, bu I know the rules. RIP Solar424 2014-2014. Oh good, I guess mafia is surrendering in a few minutes. Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 06:05 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, if there's anything you want to talk about while you're going through the pages, let me know! You may have said it before but who is your top wolf/village. (<<<<<<<<<<ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION) Please use the following format. Top Town: Tehpoofter
Town: Mr.White, Colonel MustardWolfy: Professor Plum, Mr. Green
OUTTED WOLF: The Candlestick The_Templar
KOTC
Hobbitus
Haru* Tehpoofter Epishade* mtamburini, GlowingBear*
Teemu* Nydus*
Jabberwockzerg
Meatpudding
*Going to talk about these further mtamburini is in the center, bolded, to draw the line between more mafia and more scum, as I have literally zero clue about his alignment so far (he hasn't posted ). Only the ones in green/red I have any strong feelings about. Haru: Only not green because he's sort of erratic. He's jumped immediately onto people for small mistakes, which is ok, but he's also sometimes making assumptions (It's not unlikely but he takes it as completely true). He does a lot of extra stuff I wanted to do to look town in my first game, particularly making a list of important posts and asking a LOT of questions, both of which I like this game. Epishade: He made one suspicious post so far, which knocked him down quite a bit on my list as well as everyone else's. Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 14:35 Epishade wrote:
Ermm, I was really not expecting Token to get shot, of all people. I expected either myself, Haruhi, or Templar to die tbh, as we've all been townread for the majority of the game by most people. Token could have been a potential case if someone were to call him out, so I have a hard time rationalizing why mafia would shoot Token over someone more townie.
The only way I can see Token's shot being justified is if mafia thought he was on the right track and shot him to get rid of him, because objectively, that looked like a bad shot to me. You usually shoot people that have little chance of getting lynched for reading townie, but there seemed to be enough suspicion on Token (or at least, more than the three people I listed above) for me to think that that wasn't the reason he was shot.
There are a few people that Token scumreads over day 1, and I think that probably played a part in his death.
His scumreads:
JabberZerg (initially, then changed his mind to a townread at 4:00, which wouldn't have given mafia time to change their shot if JabberZerg wanted to keep Token alive for townreading him, assuming that Jabber is mafia)
meatpudding
Teemursu
Cats
His townreads:
Haruhi
Templar
me
Hobbit (only in his post at 4:00)
Fence reads:
Nydus
Dunno reads:
GlowBear
Other peoples
So I think the cases should probably be focused on people in his scum list at this point. I mean, he did say for people to look at me, GlowBear, and Nydus day 2 in his 4:02 post, but I'm not considering these specifically right now because they came too late to be able to influence mafia, and I'm only looking at the reasoning for shooting Token here over someone else.
He also asked me to post my reads on him, Cats, and meatpudding at this point, too, but I woke up too early today and am dead tired. I'll post my reads on everybody I have reads for sometime tomorrow after I wake up.
Night all. Why did he assume that Tolkien's scum list influenced the mafia's decision, and why did he assume that Tolkien's list was even accurate (he didn't ever have a read on him)? Sort of odd… but he has followed up on his promise to post read this day (it's a good list too, you should read it), which is more than a lot of people in this game have done, and admitted he was wrong about his assumptions instead of insisting we were wrong (a lot of people have done this). GlowingBear: Null reads galore at the beginning of the game, sort of jumping on stuff a bit late, but does offer some short analysis quite often (more lists the possibilities than concluding anything). Not sure about him. In addition, this post: Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:On June 24 2014 03:04 HaruRH wrote:On June 24 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Haru is dangerous because he leads our reads. He ask questions to be answered and, therefore, changes the route of our reasoning. If he is scum, he has got us on his hands.
But I never saw any scum sign in his posts. I think he ask good questions that may help town. So, I think he is townie. please don't think of me this way Haha don't worry, I have good feelings towards you. You sound greeny, even blueish to me. I just like to cover all possibilities. I'd be too naive if I didn't. Overly casual townie, or subtle scum trying to get town panicking? I bet you can't tell. Teemu: I don't like a lot of what he's been doing and he's too consistent in this game. He's pretty much been reading me as town for the whole game, without really clarifying it. After he straightened out what he meant by me being towny earlier, he stopped addressing me completely. Exactly the same situation with Nydus. But when he reads a mafia, he doesn't let go, instead continually emphasizing how much he thinks they're mafia (see meatpudding). And even though he's been trying to take charge of the town, he still used GlowingBear to create a scum read out of Epishade when he had him as on the fence, not really drawing his own conclusions. Also, what the hell is this? Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:26 Teemursu wrote:On June 25 2014 06:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
It's just as hard to read Tehpoofter in forum mafia as it is to read him in video mafia it appears -_- .... I'll have a large writeup in about 2 hours. I want to just make one big post with what I think about everyone in general Great. More posts that I don't want to read. However, he's really aggressive, friendly and I think he's trying to be/seem helpful so I don't want to put him on my scum list right now. Nydus: Do something helpful and not directly related to Teemu and I'll move you back to neutral. Are we talking about the same post Templar? This one I have spoiled above is the one you made which includes his original post in it. I have bolded where you thought it was scummy. I just find it odd that you thought it was scummy then since then hadn't commented that you no longer felt that way and feel the need to quite strongly disagree with me. I wasn't talking about that post, no. I was talking about his clarification later: On June 25 2014 10:47 Epishade wrote:
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Honestly, I'm surprised you put me at the top of your list. Even I wouldn't put myself there lol.
I read your explanation and, though I'm glad you read me as townie, even I'd still have my suspicions about me if I were in your place over my Token being shot post. To put me over someone who hasn't made anybody suspicious all game, like Templar, who you left null, seems like a strange choice to me.
I know I lost a bit of townieness when I posted my Token post. I knew I would before I posted it actually, but I'd rather post information that I thought would be relevant in catching scum and lose townie cred than ignore it altogether due to wifom. Actually, I thought that somebody might bring up the idea that I was scum, and that I shot Token just so I could make that post and throw off town's track, but nobody posted suspicions about that. Instead people posted that I had neglected some scenarios, which is true, too. The post you quoted, I still think is a bit scummy, and yeah I'm not super sure about Epishade anymore. I was just trying to clarify what he said later. Ok we were talking about two different posts for a bit I thought I was taking crazy pills or something. lol. BTW Nydus is scum. If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro" I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum? I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip. Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO. On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions. Poofter said, we should put more pressure on people, so I decided to try and garner a reaction from someone I didn't have a strong opinion on. I got buried for it instead. My bad. You can pressure who you want if you think they're scummy. I like epishade, and I like meatpudding as town.
I get what you did in the time you've posted. When I posted, I wasn't OMGUSing, I just wanted to understand what kind of information you were trying to gather so I could give it to you. That's what I didn't understand. I think pressuring lurkers would give you more information than pressuring me. I'm willing to give any, with or without pressure.
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On June 25 2014 12:11 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 12:02 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
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I wasn't talking about that post, no. I was talking about his clarification later:
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The post you quoted, I still think is a bit scummy, and yeah I'm not super sure about Epishade anymore. I was just trying to clarify what he said later. Ok we were talking about two different posts for a bit I thought I was taking crazy pills or something. lol. BTW Nydus is scum. If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro" I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum? I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip. Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO. On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions. Poofter said, we should put more pressure on people, so I decided to try and garner a reaction from someone I didn't have a strong opinion on. I got buried for it instead. My bad. You can pressure who you want if you think they're scummy. I like epishade, and I like meatpudding as town. I get what you did in the time you've posted. When I posted, I wasn't OMGUSing, I just wanted to understand what kind of information you were trying to gather so I could give it to you. That's what I didn't understand. I think pressuring lurkers would give you more information than pressuring me. I'm willing to give any, with or without pressure.
Haha yeah I didn't think it through very clearly. I should've called you mafia for something stupid.
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On June 25 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 12:02 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:34 Tehpoofter wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2014 07:57 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 05:57 Tehpoofter wrote:GOOD NEWS FOLKS I have come to save this village from imminent fail. I never should have left Teemu and Nydus in charge. I will give mafia an hour to concede. At which point if our town surrender demands are not met I will begin referring to mafia as wolves to further degrade them and calling them out one by one. I have linked the hero before me's beautiful filter for full analysis: On June 21 2014 22:48 Solar424 wrote:
Hello. I am new to TL, and this is the first time playing Mafia online, bu I know the rules. RIP Solar424 2014-2014. Oh good, I guess mafia is surrendering in a few minutes. Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 06:05 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, if there's anything you want to talk about while you're going through the pages, let me know! You may have said it before but who is your top wolf/village. (<<<<<<<<< Please use the following format.
Top Town: Tehpoofter
Town: Mr.White, Colonel Mustard
Wolfy: Professor Plum, Mr. Green
OUTTED WOLF: The Candlestick
The_Templar
KOTC
Hobbitus
Haru* Tehpoofter Epishade* mtamburini, GlowingBear*
Teemu* Nydus*
Jabberwockzerg
Meatpudding
*Going to talk about these further mtamburini is in the center, bolded, to draw the line between more mafia and more scum, as I have literally zero clue about his alignment so far (he hasn't posted ). Only the ones in green/red I have any strong feelings about. Haru: Only not green because he's sort of erratic. He's jumped immediately onto people for small mistakes, which is ok, but he's also sometimes making assumptions (It's not unlikely but he takes it as completely true). He does a lot of extra stuff I wanted to do to look town in my first game, particularly making a list of important posts and asking a LOT of questions, both of which I like this game. Epishade: He made one suspicious post so far, which knocked him down quite a bit on my list as well as everyone else's. Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 14:35 Epishade wrote:
Ermm, I was really not expecting Token to get shot, of all people. I expected either myself, Haruhi, or Templar to die tbh, as we've all been townread for the majority of the game by most people. Token could have been a potential case if someone were to call him out, so I have a hard time rationalizing why mafia would shoot Token over someone more townie.
The only way I can see Token's shot being justified is if mafia thought he was on the right track and shot him to get rid of him, because objectively, that looked like a bad shot to me. You usually shoot people that have little chance of getting lynched for reading townie, but there seemed to be enough suspicion on Token (or at least, more than the three people I listed above) for me to think that that wasn't the reason he was shot.
There are a few people that Token scumreads over day 1, and I think that probably played a part in his death.
His scumreads:
JabberZerg (initially, then changed his mind to a townread at 4:00, which wouldn't have given mafia time to change their shot if JabberZerg wanted to keep Token alive for townreading him, assuming that Jabber is mafia)
meatpudding
Teemursu
Cats
His townreads:
Haruhi
Templar
me
Hobbit (only in his post at 4:00)
Fence reads:
Nydus
Dunno reads:
GlowBear
Other peoples
So I think the cases should probably be focused on people in his scum list at this point. I mean, he did say for people to look at me, GlowBear, and Nydus day 2 in his 4:02 post, but I'm not considering these specifically right now because they came too late to be able to influence mafia, and I'm only looking at the reasoning for shooting Token here over someone else.
He also asked me to post my reads on him, Cats, and meatpudding at this point, too, but I woke up too early today and am dead tired. I'll post my reads on everybody I have reads for sometime tomorrow after I wake up.
Night all. Why did he assume that Tolkien's scum list influenced the mafia's decision, and why did he assume that Tolkien's list was even accurate (he didn't ever have a read on him)? Sort of odd… but he has followed up on his promise to post read this day (it's a good list too, you should read it), which is more than a lot of people in this game have done, and admitted he was wrong about his assumptions instead of insisting we were wrong (a lot of people have done this). GlowingBear: Null reads galore at the beginning of the game, sort of jumping on stuff a bit late, but does offer some short analysis quite often (more lists the possibilities than concluding anything). Not sure about him. In addition, this post: Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:On June 24 2014 03:04 HaruRH wrote:On June 24 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Haru is dangerous because he leads our reads. He ask questions to be answered and, therefore, changes the route of our reasoning. If he is scum, he has got us on his hands.
But I never saw any scum sign in his posts. I think he ask good questions that may help town. So, I think he is townie. please don't think of me this way Haha don't worry, I have good feelings towards you. You sound greeny, even blueish to me. I just like to cover all possibilities. I'd be too naive if I didn't. Overly casual townie, or subtle scum trying to get town panicking? I bet you can't tell. Teemu: I don't like a lot of what he's been doing and he's too consistent in this game. He's pretty much been reading me as town for the whole game, without really clarifying it. After he straightened out what he meant by me being towny earlier, he stopped addressing me completely. Exactly the same situation with Nydus. But when he reads a mafia, he doesn't let go, instead continually emphasizing how much he thinks they're mafia (see meatpudding). And even though he's been trying to take charge of the town, he still used GlowingBear to create a scum read out of Epishade when he had him as on the fence, not really drawing his own conclusions. Also, what the hell is this? Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:26 Teemursu wrote:On June 25 2014 06:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
It's just as hard to read Tehpoofter in forum mafia as it is to read him in video mafia it appears -_- .... I'll have a large writeup in about 2 hours. I want to just make one big post with what I think about everyone in general Great. More posts that I don't want to read. However, he's really aggressive, friendly and I think he's trying to be/seem helpful so I don't want to put him on my scum list right now. Nydus: Do something helpful and not directly related to Teemu and I'll move you back to neutral. Are we talking about the same post Templar? This one I have spoiled above is the one you made which includes his original post in it. I have bolded where you thought it was scummy. I just find it odd that you thought it was scummy then since then hadn't commented that you no longer felt that way and feel the need to quite strongly disagree with me. I wasn't talking about that post, no. I was talking about his clarification later: On June 25 2014 10:47 Epishade wrote:
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Honestly, I'm surprised you put me at the top of your list. Even I wouldn't put myself there lol.
I read your explanation and, though I'm glad you read me as townie, even I'd still have my suspicions about me if I were in your place over my Token being shot post. To put me over someone who hasn't made anybody suspicious all game, like Templar, who you left null, seems like a strange choice to me.
I know I lost a bit of townieness when I posted my Token post. I knew I would before I posted it actually, but I'd rather post information that I thought would be relevant in catching scum and lose townie cred than ignore it altogether due to wifom. Actually, I thought that somebody might bring up the idea that I was scum, and that I shot Token just so I could make that post and throw off town's track, but nobody posted suspicions about that. Instead people posted that I had neglected some scenarios, which is true, too. The post you quoted, I still think is a bit scummy, and yeah I'm not super sure about Epishade anymore. I was just trying to clarify what he said later. Ok we were talking about two different posts for a bit I thought I was taking crazy pills or something. lol. BTW Nydus is scum. If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro" I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum? I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip. Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO. On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions. Poofter said, we should put more pressure on people, so I decided to try and garner a reaction from someone I didn't have a strong opinion on. I got buried for it instead. My bad. You can pressure who you want if you think they're scummy. I like epishade, and I like meatpudding as town.
There are nicer ways to ask for information from people that aren't lurking.
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On June 25 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 12:02 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:34 Tehpoofter wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 25 2014 07:57 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 05:57 Tehpoofter wrote:GOOD NEWS FOLKS I have come to save this village from imminent fail. I never should have left Teemu and Nydus in charge. I will give mafia an hour to concede. At which point if our town surrender demands are not met I will begin referring to mafia as wolves to further degrade them and calling them out one by one. I have linked the hero before me's beautiful filter for full analysis: On June 21 2014 22:48 Solar424 wrote:
Hello. I am new to TL, and this is the first time playing Mafia online, bu I know the rules. RIP Solar424 2014-2014. Oh good, I guess mafia is surrendering in a few minutes. Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 06:05 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, if there's anything you want to talk about while you're going through the pages, let me know! You may have said it before but who is your top wolf/village. (<<<<<<<<<<ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION) Please use the following format. Top Town: Tehpoofter
Town: Mr.White, Colonel MustardWolfy: Professor Plum, Mr. Green
OUTTED WOLF: The Candlestick The_Templar
KOTC
Hobbitus
Haru* Tehpoofter Epishade* mtamburini, GlowingBear*
Teemu* Nydus*
Jabberwockzerg
Meatpudding
*Going to talk about these further mtamburini is in the center, bolded, to draw the line between more mafia and more scum, as I have literally zero clue about his alignment so far (he hasn't posted ). Only the ones in green/red I have any strong feelings about. Haru: Only not green because he's sort of erratic. He's jumped immediately onto people for small mistakes, which is ok, but he's also sometimes making assumptions (It's not unlikely but he takes it as completely true). He does a lot of extra stuff I wanted to do to look town in my first game, particularly making a list of important posts and asking a LOT of questions, both of which I like this game. Epishade: He made one suspicious post so far, which knocked him down quite a bit on my list as well as everyone else's. Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 14:35 Epishade wrote:
Ermm, I was really not expecting Token to get shot, of all people. I expected either myself, Haruhi, or Templar to die tbh, as we've all been townread for the majority of the game by most people. Token could have been a potential case if someone were to call him out, so I have a hard time rationalizing why mafia would shoot Token over someone more townie.
The only way I can see Token's shot being justified is if mafia thought he was on the right track and shot him to get rid of him, because objectively, that looked like a bad shot to me. You usually shoot people that have little chance of getting lynched for reading townie, but there seemed to be enough suspicion on Token (or at least, more than the three people I listed above) for me to think that that wasn't the reason he was shot.
There are a few people that Token scumreads over day 1, and I think that probably played a part in his death.
His scumreads:
JabberZerg (initially, then changed his mind to a townread at 4:00, which wouldn't have given mafia time to change their shot if JabberZerg wanted to keep Token alive for townreading him, assuming that Jabber is mafia)
meatpudding
Teemursu
Cats
His townreads:
Haruhi
Templar
me
Hobbit (only in his post at 4:00)
Fence reads:
Nydus
Dunno reads:
GlowBear
Other peoples
So I think the cases should probably be focused on people in his scum list at this point. I mean, he did say for people to look at me, GlowBear, and Nydus day 2 in his 4:02 post, but I'm not considering these specifically right now because they came too late to be able to influence mafia, and I'm only looking at the reasoning for shooting Token here over someone else.
He also asked me to post my reads on him, Cats, and meatpudding at this point, too, but I woke up too early today and am dead tired. I'll post my reads on everybody I have reads for sometime tomorrow after I wake up.
Night all. Why did he assume that Tolkien's scum list influenced the mafia's decision, and why did he assume that Tolkien's list was even accurate (he didn't ever have a read on him)? Sort of odd… but he has followed up on his promise to post read this day (it's a good list too, you should read it), which is more than a lot of people in this game have done, and admitted he was wrong about his assumptions instead of insisting we were wrong (a lot of people have done this). GlowingBear: Null reads galore at the beginning of the game, sort of jumping on stuff a bit late, but does offer some short analysis quite often (more lists the possibilities than concluding anything). Not sure about him. In addition, this post: Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:On June 24 2014 03:04 HaruRH wrote:On June 24 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Haru is dangerous because he leads our reads. He ask questions to be answered and, therefore, changes the route of our reasoning. If he is scum, he has got us on his hands.
But I never saw any scum sign in his posts. I think he ask good questions that may help town. So, I think he is townie. please don't think of me this way Haha don't worry, I have good feelings towards you. You sound greeny, even blueish to me. I just like to cover all possibilities. I'd be too naive if I didn't. Overly casual townie, or subtle scum trying to get town panicking? I bet you can't tell. Teemu: I don't like a lot of what he's been doing and he's too consistent in this game. He's pretty much been reading me as town for the whole game, without really clarifying it. After he straightened out what he meant by me being towny earlier, he stopped addressing me completely. Exactly the same situation with Nydus. But when he reads a mafia, he doesn't let go, instead continually emphasizing how much he thinks they're mafia (see meatpudding). And even though he's been trying to take charge of the town, he still used GlowingBear to create a scum read out of Epishade when he had him as on the fence, not really drawing his own conclusions. Also, what the hell is this? Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 06:26 Teemursu wrote:On June 25 2014 06:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
It's just as hard to read Tehpoofter in forum mafia as it is to read him in video mafia it appears -_- .... I'll have a large writeup in about 2 hours. I want to just make one big post with what I think about everyone in general Great. More posts that I don't want to read. However, he's really aggressive, friendly and I think he's trying to be/seem helpful so I don't want to put him on my scum list right now. Nydus: Do something helpful and not directly related to Teemu and I'll move you back to neutral. Are we talking about the same post Templar? This one I have spoiled above is the one you made which includes his original post in it. I have bolded where you thought it was scummy. I just find it odd that you thought it was scummy then since then hadn't commented that you no longer felt that way and feel the need to quite strongly disagree with me. I wasn't talking about that post, no. I was talking about his clarification later: On June 25 2014 10:47 Epishade wrote:
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Honestly, I'm surprised you put me at the top of your list. Even I wouldn't put myself there lol.
I read your explanation and, though I'm glad you read me as townie, even I'd still have my suspicions about me if I were in your place over my Token being shot post. To put me over someone who hasn't made anybody suspicious all game, like Templar, who you left null, seems like a strange choice to me.
I know I lost a bit of townieness when I posted my Token post. I knew I would before I posted it actually, but I'd rather post information that I thought would be relevant in catching scum and lose townie cred than ignore it altogether due to wifom. Actually, I thought that somebody might bring up the idea that I was scum, and that I shot Token just so I could make that post and throw off town's track, but nobody posted suspicions about that. Instead people posted that I had neglected some scenarios, which is true, too. The post you quoted, I still think is a bit scummy, and yeah I'm not super sure about Epishade anymore. I was just trying to clarify what he said later. Ok we were talking about two different posts for a bit I thought I was taking crazy pills or something. lol. BTW Nydus is scum. If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro" I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum? I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip. Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO. On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions. Poofter said, we should put more pressure on people, so I decided to try and garner a reaction from someone I didn't have a strong opinion on. I got buried for it instead. My bad. You can pressure who you want if you think they're scummy. I like epishade, and I like meatpudding as town.
So are you saying that you actually have no reason to think GlowingBear is scum at this point?
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On June 25 2014 12:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 12:02 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:38 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
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I wasn't talking about that post, no. I was talking about his clarification later:
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The post you quoted, I still think is a bit scummy, and yeah I'm not super sure about Epishade anymore. I was just trying to clarify what he said later. Ok we were talking about two different posts for a bit I thought I was taking crazy pills or something. lol. BTW Nydus is scum. If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro" I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum? I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip. Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO. On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions. Poofter said, we should put more pressure on people, so I decided to try and garner a reaction from someone I didn't have a strong opinion on. I got buried for it instead. My bad. You can pressure who you want if you think they're scummy. I like epishade, and I like meatpudding as town. So are you saying that you actually have no reason to think GlowingBear is scum at this point?
No reason to think he's town either though aside from a couple "innocent" sounding posts.
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Vote Count – Day 2
meatpudding (4): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBear
NydusHerMain (1): Tehpoofter
GlowingBear (1): NydusHerMain
Not voting (6): baktag
Currently, meatpudding is set to be lynched with 4 votes.
As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else.
Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
Day 2 will end in (04:00 GMT (+00:00)).
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Just woke up. Ask me any questions before I start filterdiving for votes.
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On June 25 2014 12:19 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 12:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 25 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 12:02 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:38 Tehpoofter wrote:
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Ok we were talking about two different posts for a bit I thought I was taking crazy pills or something. lol. BTW Nydus is scum. If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro" I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum? I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip. Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO. On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions. Poofter said, we should put more pressure on people, so I decided to try and garner a reaction from someone I didn't have a strong opinion on. I got buried for it instead. My bad. You can pressure who you want if you think they're scummy. I like epishade, and I like meatpudding as town. So are you saying that you actually have no reason to think GlowingBear is scum at this point? No reason to think he's town either though aside from a couple "innocent" sounding posts.
That was the response i was hoping for. This may well be the townie response, if Nydus was scum i can't really see why he would say GlowingBear is scum for absolutely no reason when he's starting to look scummy himself. It puts a massive amount of suspicion on him to go "Hey guys this dude is scummy because...er...because i said so" Things were already looking bad for him and scum would've been careful not to make themselves look even worse in that situation, and him voting GB out of the blue clearly has made him look worse. On the other hand it's possible that he simply panicked and tried desperately to switch the topic of conversation, i'm really not sure about this. What do you guys think?
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On June 25 2014 12:41 jabberwockzerg wrote:
I am not a girl
I'm not a girl too, but hey, if it pleases them to think that we have more females in this game than males, then so be it. Some people get really desperate online
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On June 25 2014 12:40 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 12:19 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 12:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 25 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 12:02 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:
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If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro" I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum? I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip. Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO. On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions. Poofter said, we should put more pressure on people, so I decided to try and garner a reaction from someone I didn't have a strong opinion on. I got buried for it instead. My bad. You can pressure who you want if you think they're scummy. I like epishade, and I like meatpudding as town. So are you saying that you actually have no reason to think GlowingBear is scum at this point? No reason to think he's town either though aside from a couple "innocent" sounding posts. That was the response i was hoping for. This may well be the townie response, if Nydus was scum i can't really see why he would say GlowingBear is scum for absolutely no reason when he's starting to look scummy himself. It puts a massive amount of suspicion on him to go "Hey guys this dude is scummy because...er...because i said so" Things were already looking bad for him and scum would've been careful not to make themselves look even worse in that situation, and him voting GB out of the blue clearly has made him look worse. On the other hand it's possible that he simply panicked and tried desperately to switch the topic of conversation, i'm really not sure about this. What do you guys think?
If I wanted to divert attention, I'd probably just OMGUS someone else. Granted that's WIFOM, I'm more interested in the alignments of others than what people think of my alignment.
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On June 25 2014 12:40 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 12:19 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 12:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 25 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 12:02 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2014 11:50 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:48 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 25 2014 11:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 25 2014 11:44 The_Templar wrote:On June 25 2014 11:42 NydusHerMain wrote:
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If you're town and don't want to get mislynched tomorrow, back off me before my role flips. Thanks. Are you subtly trying to claim blue? Because I don't think that will help your case very much. This is not how he would claim a blue this is him just saying I'm wrong. I still need him to give me his read on the adorable mafia in his eyes. A couple of posts sounded a little bit towny but I need more content for a definitive read. Not actually "clearly mafia" but claiming a polarized opinion brings out a stronger reaction. Too late I guess for that Lol no I think you done good his reaction was scummy. He like instantly noticed and says "whoa vote a lurker not me bro" I'm trying to understand his pressure vote on me because he read no scum signs before. I cannot give him the answers he is looking for when I don't know why this vote happened. How can I try to prove I'm town when I don't know the reasons someone would say I'm scum? I've always been firmly into lynching meatpudding and my opinion hasn't changed. Meatpudding has being lurking for a while and although I have my reads on Epishade are slightly scum, I think town would get better advantage lynching meatpudding and understanding his flip. Pressuring meatpudding and Epishade would give better results than pressuring me, IMO. On why lynching meatpudding is the best option in my point of view is that there were a lot of interactions with him in the beginning of the game that left doubts (as for kingofcarrots alignment, in example). His flip would help getting better reads of those interactions. Poofter said, we should put more pressure on people, so I decided to try and garner a reaction from someone I didn't have a strong opinion on. I got buried for it instead. My bad. You can pressure who you want if you think they're scummy. I like epishade, and I like meatpudding as town. So are you saying that you actually have no reason to think GlowingBear is scum at this point? No reason to think he's town either though aside from a couple "innocent" sounding posts. That was the response i was hoping for. This may well be the townie response, if Nydus was scum i can't really see why he would say GlowingBear is scum for absolutely no reason when he's starting to look scummy himself. It puts a massive amount of suspicion on him to go "Hey guys this dude is scummy because...er...because i said so" Things were already looking bad for him and scum would've been careful not to make themselves look even worse in that situation, and him voting GB out of the blue clearly has made him look worse. On the other hand it's possible that he simply panicked and tried desperately to switch the topic of conversation, i'm really not sure about this. What do you guys think?
I think a townie would give more time and try to explain himself than voting someone out of the blue.
Have in mind that he may have tried to get not a reaction from me, but from the others, as people were reading me as townie. He could be evaluating people approval on me. Although this sounds a little WIFOM.
I still see Nydus as a huge question mark by the way...
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