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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 22 2014 20:50 MysteryMeat1 wrote: if your town you should be fighting to the end.... Thanks for the vote of confidence, I do appreciate it.  | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On June 22 2014 21:41 scott31337 wrote: Thanks for the vote of confidence, I do appreciate it. Scott, I know this feeling of getting pressured for a lynch d1. Ask jabber. Do not start being overly negative and thinking that you have been thrown out of the game. It is just that people find suspicion on you. Try and find other lynch targets for town - even if they do not like the method you're using, just do it. It's your method, not theirs. | ||
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TheKingOfTheCats
United Kingdom160 Posts
On June 22 2014 17:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote: yoyoyoyo whats up guys! im the mystery of the meat! i know quite a few people here, teemu and nydus from vid mafia, epishade my self-proclaimed pretend to be best friend, and templar from blogs and stuff. Just from reading throug the last couple of pages current reads: THE_TEMPLAR: he likes my blogs which is a pretty big plus one I don't like how he links his mafia play filter. IMO its pretty scummy people who do it. ITs like guys this is how i play mafia, don't worry i can't possibly change my play and fool you guys. THE_Templar and one other posted their filters, which seemed pretty scummy. I read Scott's posts and didn't really see any reason to vote on him. However its forum mafia, so voting 20 hours before deadline isn't that big of a deal as you can always switch. Don't mind him pressuring scott either. King of the cats: I honestly really don't like him, seems super scummy, in one of his arguments on lynching, he mentions that he doesn't care about alignment. If you can push a mislynch day1, then you can kill a stronger player in the night. Top scum at the moment. Hobbitus: Mentions its his first game. Considering this is a newbie game, makes sense that he would post it. However i don't really like that he posted that. He also blows stuff up. all in all, don't like his post buts its not enough to give a solid read on. leaning town. Teemu: excels at finding scum day1, perfectly alright with pinging people out. Also votes can change, at this point i feel like votes are just to pressure people. And in my experience, votes made closer to deadline mean a whole lot more. meatpudding: leaning town, didn't jump on any bandwagons, however its self-proclaimed which i don't really like. Nydus: seems pretty town, he's making reads, and he was a bit trolly at the begining with the haikus but switched into serious mode. Every one else, just from a quick read through didn't stand out too much, or i forgot to post about them. for now though, i'll vote on cat, as i think he's pretty scummy. ##VOTE: TheKingOfCats Why an i "super scummy" for doing that when Lord Tolkien isn't for doing exactly the same thing? On June 22 2014 09:27 Lord Tolkien wrote: It isn't and I agree; however it is indicative to how useful they'll be to contributing to town, and I'd rather get a lurker lynch out of the way now in a newbie game, than later. If someone actively posts, it's easier to judge alignment, and gives town something to go with. If I am convinced of a player's scumminess I'll vote for him, but at present I don't feel enough of it atm. As for the possibility of hitting a lurking blue role or whatever, it is a risk, however if you are a blue role in forum mafia, the correct play for blues is generally to play like you would a vanilla townie. There's no reason to treat a blue role as anything outside of a (very nice) bonus; you're still playing town. All lurking does is make you suspicious, either to town or to scum. Don't do it guys. I do agree with you broadly, just I'd rather get a serious non-contributor out of the way, and a lurker lynch policy for a newbie game is decent incentive for newbie townies to NOT lurk, and post (which is the only way we can judge people: no/little/non-informative posts=bad for town). If people don't post they'll get mod-killed anyways, but still, low-info posts don't help town. AKA: POST GAIZ, AND CONTRIBUTE That's how my D1 the past 2 newbie mafias went for me hah. Which reminds me. If anyone needs it, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445959-newbie-mini-mafia-liv?user=Lord Tolkien http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441178-newbie-mini-mafia-lii?user=Lord Tolkien The filters for my previous forum mafia games, which is mostly the sum of my mafia experience (minus a couple DC/MD/VA meetup mafia games). For your conveniences. I aim to improve my D1 play anyways, but it should give you a general idea how I play. At this point, based on current posts, I'd vote on Scott. No opinions on anyone excepting pointing out that we had lurkers, and the rest are just sheeple nods. Hasn't added anything to the thread, just posts to make himself appear active. Why didn't you mention him at all when he said that he didn't mind a potential D1 mislynch of someone that wouldn't be contributing as well? | ||
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Teemursu
Finland839 Posts
On June 22 2014 21:41 scott31337 wrote: Thanks for the vote of confidence, I do appreciate it. Not to encourage your inner OMGUS, but sometimes mafia can really break your spirit of fighting and break town's moral. This sometimes happens in video mafia when people act BM towards each other. When I said I disliked your post, I didn't say your reads were bad, I just disliked the form that you presented them in. Don't worry, one of the better players at forming town circles is considering you town! To move the discussion forward, would you be down for joining us in the MeatPudding wagon? I feel like he's probably a better vote from your perspective than yourself. 8O) | ||
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NydusHerMain
Canada492 Posts
On June 22 2014 17:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote: yoyoyoyo whats up guys! im the mystery of the meat! i know quite a few people here, teemu and nydus from vid mafia, epishade my self-proclaimed pretend to be best friend, and templar from blogs and stuff. Just from reading throug the last couple of pages current reads: THE_TEMPLAR: he likes my blogs which is a pretty big plus one I don't like how he links his mafia play filter. IMO its pretty scummy people who do it. ITs like guys this is how i play mafia, don't worry i can't possibly change my play and fool you guys. THE_Templar and one other posted their filters, which seemed pretty scummy. I read Scott's posts and didn't really see any reason to vote on him. However its forum mafia, so voting 20 hours before deadline isn't that big of a deal as you can always switch. Don't mind him pressuring scott either. King of the cats: I honestly really don't like him, seems super scummy, in one of his arguments on lynching, he mentions that he doesn't care about alignment. If you can push a mislynch day1, then you can kill a stronger player in the night. Top scum at the moment. Hobbitus: Mentions its his first game. Considering this is a newbie game, makes sense that he would post it. However i don't really like that he posted that. He also blows stuff up. all in all, don't like his post buts its not enough to give a solid read on. leaning town. Teemu: excels at finding scum day1, perfectly alright with pinging people out. Also votes can change, at this point i feel like votes are just to pressure people. And in my experience, votes made closer to deadline mean a whole lot more. meatpudding: leaning town, didn't jump on any bandwagons, however its self-proclaimed which i don't really like. Nydus: seems pretty town, he's making reads, and he was a bit trolly at the begining with the haikus but switched into serious mode. Every one else, just from a quick read through didn't stand out too much, or i forgot to post about them. for now though, i'll vote on cat, as i think he's pretty scummy. ##VOTE: TheKingOfCats I would like to know what your actual read on Teemu is. All you've given is a description of what he is like in video mafia. I like the reasoning you gave behind your Templar read, although I am leaning town on him. Overall, I like the reads that you gave, even though I don't necessarily agree with all of them. I am leaning town on you MysteryMeat1. | ||
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Teemursu
Finland839 Posts
On June 22 2014 22:01 NydusHerMain wrote: I would like to know what your actual read on Teemu is. All you've given is a description of what he is like in video mafia. I like the reasoning you gave behind your Templar read, although I am leaning town on him. Overall, I like the reads that you gave, even though I don't necessarily agree with all of them. I am leaning town on you MysteryMeat1. Why are you reading Templar as town? | ||
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TheKingOfTheCats
United Kingdom160 Posts
On June 22 2014 19:09 scott31337 wrote: Okay, I've had a bit to think about this, and want to post my feelings as best I can. Jabberwockzerg- My instinct tells me an inexperienced person trying to back his Mafia, and reading the mafia chat too much at the moment - and maybe defending too early - not enough to say honestly. Can you point to any posts of jabber's that lead you to think he's trying to "back his mafia, and reading the mafia chat too much" or is it just a baseless gut feeling? Also, have you played mafia before or is this your first game? | ||
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Teemursu
Finland839 Posts
Also, people who haven't said a single thing yet: Solar424 GlowingBear BlondeMocha | ||
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TheKingOfTheCats
United Kingdom160 Posts
On June 22 2014 22:01 NydusHerMain wrote: I would like to know what your actual read on Teemu is. All you've given is a description of what he is like in video mafia. I like the reasoning you gave behind your Templar read, although I am leaning town on him. Overall, I like the reads that you gave, even though I don't necessarily agree with all of them. I am leaning town on you MysteryMeat1. The things he said about Templar were not good points, he's trying to say that something that isn't alignment indicative is scummy. If Templar is scum then his point is valid given enough time but you can't make your scum play match your town play overnight, seeing as he's only played 3 games here and been scum in only 1 of them it's safe to say he doesn't even know how to play scum let alone match his scum play to his town play, and if he's town it would make sense to post filters from previous games so you can see if he's playing like he was in his past town games thus giving people a chance to meta read him. It's not inherently scummy and any attempt to paint it as such is just WIFOM. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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Hobbitus
222 Posts
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Hobbitus
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 22 2014 14:42 Epishade wrote: Just from the looks of it, Templar seems to me to be townie so far. He's been posting a lot and replying to a lot of posts directed at him. Generally, too, when I think things to myself, and other people agree with what I'm currently thinking, I place those people in my town pile. I put Templar in there for his suspicion against Teemursu, which I had as well. Though he ultimately decided to vote on Scott, which I also believe to be a justified vote thus far. Sure, I guess a mafia could have done either just as well, so I generally don't put a lot of faith into day 1 reads. Just, so far, he's most townie to me right now. I would like him to answer one thing I saw him post that seemed a little weird to me. @Templar, what did you mean with these sentences about Teemursu? What was the "But he thinks I'm town." clause supposed to contradict? He said that I gave off a towny vibe, but it could have been scum trying to make me look scum. It was very early in the game to be thinking anyone was town or scum, so it was sort of weird. However: On June 22 2014 16:07 Teemursu wrote: Right when I ask for real-time interaction, two people start posting. I'm happy. I like this though. He is trying to get us all playing. On June 22 2014 17:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote: THE_TEMPLAR: I don't like how he links his mafia play filter. IMO its pretty scummy people who do it. ITs like guys this is how i play mafia, don't worry i can't possibly change my play and fool you guys. THE_Templar and one other posted their filters, which seemed pretty scummy. I read Scott's posts and didn't really see any reason to vote on him. However its forum mafia, so voting 20 hours before deadline isn't that big of a deal as you can always switch. Don't mind him pressuring scott either. When did I link my filter?  I posted two posts from my previous game which basically said that I spent a lot of time playing mafia. Tolkien did link filters… even though you could find his last game in his post history. (In fact, I just did that.) Anyway, the game was over a year ago.On June 22 2014 19:09 scott31337 wrote: Okay, I've had a bit to think about this, and want to post my feelings as best I can. (The_Templar) I mostly agree with this - and also since he is showing the most information in my opinion - he may be lynched by mafia - and since he may be thinking Cats - If Cats gets lynched - Templar will go at night If Meat get lynched - Templar may go as well If Templar does not go at night - a slight scum read Still suspect Templar town Hope that helps how I feel with my townie friends! I only have a slight scum read on Cats, which is not particularly strong at all, and I specifically said I don't have a read on meat yet in that post. I don't see why I'd be a good n1 kill in those scenarios, especially considering there are people that are also doing their best and reading just like I am. I think you might be setting up something against me later. There will be at least 10 people alive day 2 if nobody gets modkilled, so why are you in this mindset of "The_Templar will probably either die or look scum by day 2"? The post is a very big analysis post in general though, and you're clearly putting in effort, so: ##Unvote Please unvote yourself and keep your head in the game. Also, I'd rather not waste a lynch when you can just ask to be replaced. On June 22 2014 20:58 meatpudding wrote: Not very sure how to vote. I could read players that are defensive as scum. ##Vote: HaruRH Haru is not really pushing town agenda. Asking vague questions, not pushing anyone in particular. Calling out when Hobbitus contradicts herself, does not seem like a good read to me. I'm still leaning towards Teemu as scum. Teemu and Templar have played before, maybe that is why they are acting familiar, but it seems like Teemu's reads are off. Cats is asking lots of questions, I am leaning town here. On Templar, I think only his one long post gives much info. I think he plays town, but could be trying to give false info. Tolkien seems noncommittal, then starts a bandwagon. Not sure here. Hobbitus not posting much but looks like town trying to get some early reads. That's all I have for now. Haru called out Tolkien as being scummy and voted him. He also pushed Hobbitus earlier, so he's definitely looking for scum. Maybe not as much as you would like, but certainly more than you… I've never played with Teemu. Wtf? If you think my long post is the only informative post I've made, you should read my filter again. Sure, none of my other posts have thorough analysis, but a lot of my other posts explain why I'm doing what I'm doing… particularly these, and I save my analysis for the big posts. Why exactly does Hobbitus look like town? Just because she's looking for stuff doesn't really mean anything, and all she's actually said is that Teemu and I were probably not both scum making a play so early in the game. (This is not a jab at Hobbitus because she seems to be making a longer post right now) Starting to look suspicious to me. I'll wait for you to redeem yourself, but I'm on the edge of voting you now. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Vote Count – Day 1 scott31337 (2): Lord Tolkein, Lord Tolkien (0): TheKingOfTheCats (2): NydusHerMain, MysteryMeat1 meatpudding (2): Teemursu, HaruRH (1): meatpudding Not voting (8): jabberwockzerg, TheKingOfTheCats, Solar424, GlowingBear, Hobbitus, Epishade, The_Templar, BlondeMocha Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched with 2 votes. As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 1 will end in (04:00 GMT (+00:00)). | ||
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Teemursu
Finland839 Posts
It will help us by pressuring people, find mafia later on through voting patterns and generally not get you guys modkilled. 8O) | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
##Vote: meatpudding Seems to be making stuff up/being inconsistent. Throwing out random accusations doesn't make you a scum hunter. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Vote Count – Day 1 scott31337 (2): Lord Tolkein, Lord Tolkien (0): TheKingOfTheCats (2): NydusHerMain, MysteryMeat1 meatpudding (3): Teemursu, HaruRH (1): meatpudding Not voting (7): jabberwockzerg, TheKingOfTheCats, Solar424, GlowingBear, Hobbitus, Epishade, BlondeMocha Currently, meatpudding is set to be lynched with 3 votes. As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 1 will end in (04:00 GMT (+00:00)). | ||
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Teemursu
Finland839 Posts
I'll be here probably 30 or so minutes before EOD to quickly check on the wagons, and see if there are any claims or something just in case. | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
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