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On June 26 2014 01:02 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 00:33 Teemursu wrote:
We haven't hit on mafia, as in, a mafia is not dead yet. I said I would be making a bigger case on MeatPudding, but I'm taking that back.
I am not listing MeatPudding as town..
I'm not rescinding my vote off from him. He's still "the main wagon" and I'm still happy to lynch him today.
Also see N1 interactions to find some really scummy logic he said. I'm not sure why you digged part of the stuff I've said, though (also, there is still more). So you're not going to make a bigger case on meatpudding because he's the main wagon and you feel like you don't have to put any more effort in to get him lynched? Would you provide this "bigger case" on meatpudding if it looked like he wasn't going to get lynched?
No, people aren't placing votes and some are town reading him for nothing while not referring to the accusations I've had on him. I'm not sure if the general town consensus even is to lynch him. I've given a lot of content on why I think MeatPudding is mafia and people are either not interested or ignoring them for a reason.
Also, I think you're doing a good job pressuring him (which is why I'm town reading you), so I think I can be a more valuable asset for town if I shift my focus on finding the other mafia.
I probably would put some more work into making a wall of post accusing MeatPudding if he wasn't going to get lynched and my other strong mafia reads aren't being strong wagons either.
This is a problem with me in video mafia too. I can't seem to convince people that certain people are indeed mafia.
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On June 26 2014 04:23 Epishade wrote:
Honestly, you've got 10 pages of filter now because you've been spamming the entire thread, and it's only Day 2. Seriously? You're the worst person I hate filter diving through because there's so much to sift through. I wish you'd consolidate your posts more.
I haven't been spamming. I've been posting reads, accusations, questions and defenses. It's not my problem that you're not putting enough effort to read me. Disregarding my content as mostly "spam" is scummy. It shows that you're not trying to figure out my alignment at all, and instead you're just throwing random scum at me with baseless accusations and WIFOMs.
have a hard time thinking though that if meatpudding were actual scum with Nydus, that Nydus would be defending him right now
It wouldn't make any sense for Nydus to defend meatpudding right now if they were both a scum team.
You think Nydus, someone under suspicion right now would point me, someone also fairly suspicious right now, as town if we were mafia partners?
If he got lynched and we were mafia partners, then he could assume that I might get lynched next, since he strong town read me when nobody else did
I'd have no reason to change my slight townread on him at the start of the game to a scumread midway through.
All of this is irrelevant non-content WIFOM.
Your scum read on us as partners is faulty at best.
I am not accusing both of you as mafia in association nor have my suspicions been conditional on either one of your alignments.
In my posts I've been pointing out how much fluff your post has contained and how Nydus reading you as top town for it is extremely awkward. Your reaction to me pinging out is very weak and is definitely making me lean scum on you.
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Epishade, entertain my world for a moment.
Since I know I am town, who are the scum pushing on MeatPudding?
Not everyone is "hating" on him, as some people have been defending him. Calling him town because of everyone pushing on him is incorrect.
Yesterday, EOD, myself, Haru, GlowingBear, MM1. - Haru and GlowingBear I am reading both as town. Strong town on Haru and leaning on Bear.
Before EOD, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, and you visited that wagon until you switched to MM1.
Cats is pushing on MeatPudding right now with myself and Haru mostly.
To me it looks like three people have actively been pushing on MeatPudding, while six was the biggest amount of people voting on that wagon yesterday. Six.
How is that way too many people?
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I want to see more pressure on Nydus.
## Vote: NydusHerMain
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I'm off to bed now.
I'll see you right before EOD. I'll update my vote accordingly to how much Nydus will contribute today.
I would be happy to either see MeatPudding as the main wagon, and possibly Epishade as the secondary one.
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Fuck it, I'm voting for JabberZerg. I can't tell who to vote for anymore and she's been flying under the radar for too long now.
##Vote: JabberZerg
Buahahahahaha!!!! sdea fgsdafn jd
I suppose you have a point.
##Unvote
##Vote: Teemursu
## Vote: Epishade
10 pages in 10 minutes... Let's do this.
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On June 26 2014 10:12 mtamburini wrote:
Hi I'm checking in. Haven't read anything. Looking at the player list teemu should be lynched or if there is a vigi they should shoot him. I will filter dive the person I replaced when I get home I'm on the bus coming home from school internet isn't very good.
Lynch teemu though seriously it's always pro town.
How does it make you feel teemu that I haven't read anything and I already know your scum?
Makes me go extremely overdefensive and OMGUS you. 
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Ok, I've caught up.
Apparently I didn't miss like literal 10 pages of content while I slept.
That's way too bad. Epishade's voting is super scummy and Nydus is doing nothing to redeem himself. Votes are so spread out and we don't have any clear wagons. 
I need to leave to work soon, so if anyone has any questions while I take a shower etc, please go ahead.
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I have a feeling that jabber might get modkilled. Templar and Bear maybe put your votes somewhere else? Idk.
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On June 26 2014 12:29 Amiko wrote:Vote Count – Day 2 meatpudding (1): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBearNydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburini GlowingBear (0): NydusHerMainTeemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade Epishade (1): HaruRH, Teemursu HaruRH (0): GlowingBearJabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMain Not voting (1): Jabberwockzerg
Currently, NydusHerMain is set to be lynched with 3 votes.
As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else. (The first player to get the majority will become the new vote target)
Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
Day 2 will end in (04:00 GMT (+00:00)).
When did MeatPudding change his vote from Epishade to me?
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On June 26 2014 12:47 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 12:45 Teemursu wrote:
I have a feeling that jabber might get modkilled. Templar and Bear maybe put your votes somewhere else? Idk. I don't know who else I'd vote for, I haven't kept up very well and I'm off in 13ish minutes. I'm only sticking around just in case something spectacular happens, like mtam posts more dancing ladies
I think Epishade, Nydus or MeatPudding are great votes.
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On June 26 2014 12:49 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 12:45 Teemursu wrote:
I have a feeling that jabber might get modkilled. Templar and Bear maybe put your votes somewhere else? Idk. Teemu, I would, but Nydus was going to be my second target, so I rather stick to jabb in case he appears.
If he doesn't?
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So once the mod clears the mistake, Nydus and Epishade will be the main wagons with 3 votes.
I would right now rather lynch Epi over Nydus.
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On June 26 2014 07:37 NydusHerMain wrote:
God... I'm starting to feel like I'm in a world where I'm defending two scum partners of epishade and meatpudding... I don't think the scumreads on Teemu are warranted... eagerness to kill someone isn't indicative of scum, it's him being "oh my god we can finally kill obvious mafia!" I feel like you guys don't really have much of a case on him.
On a flip note, this is a selfish read but I know that I'm now, and I'm quite certain that MP and Teemu are not scum partners. Why would Teemu flip his vote from MP to me when MP has the bandwagon? Seems more indicative of town to me.
A little bit because of this post.
Epi's voting has also been terrible, but maybe that's just nitpicking.
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On June 26 2014 10:52 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 04:55 HaruRH wrote:Now Epishade, I completely refuse to think this is a read from you. On June 26 2014 04:23 Epishade wrote:
Honestly, you've got 10 pages of filter now because you've been spamming the entire thread, and it's only Day 2. Seriously? You're the worst person I hate filter diving through because there's so much to sift through. I wish you'd consolidate your posts more.
My main suspicion is you for mafia. I think way too many people are hating on meatpudding with virtually nobody defending him. Cats did earlier iirc just a little bit by saying that he thought meatpudding sounded more like bad townie than mafia. And Nydus just recently defended him. I have a hard time thinking though that if meatpudding were actual scum with Nydus, that Nydus would be defending him right now, as meatpudding was going to be a pretty good lynch today anyways. It wouldn't make any sense for Nydus to defend meatpudding right now if they were both a scum team. (Correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm pretty sure Nydus defended him, but I'm going off of memory right now)
I posted a case on you in my 'reads on everybody' post already. I said there were some redeeming qualities about you that made me reconsider, but out of between you and meatpudding, I'm gonna have to choose you.
I hope this is just an opening because it have zero information except for the ' I think way too many people are hating on meatpudding with virtually nobody defending him. ' bit, which doesn't sound like a read to me. On June 26 2014 04:23 Epishade wrote:
You think Nydus, someone under suspicion right now would point me, someone also fairly suspicious right now, as town if we were mafia partners? What kind of move would that be? If he got lynched and we were mafia partners, then he could assume that I might get lynched next, since he strong town read me when nobody else did. The other scenario is that he's mafia right now and he knows that by pointing someone as town, he might give me a higher chance of me being mislynched the next day.
Your scum read on us as partners is faulty at best. If we were partners, I'd have no reason to change my slight townread on him at the start of the game to a scumread midway through. I'd have just found some other crap in his filter that I could say sounded townie to me and kept him with a townread.
I believe you asked me to review your case on Cats.
This argument is also faulty from you. You mean there is no reason to scumread your own scum partner? What kind of logic is that? Also, unlike what you're saying, a townread on you now is actually helping him if both of you are scum. Since everyone acknowledges that nydus is the only one to townread you, it is so newbie to think that he is scum too. No scum would townread the scum who is scumread by everyone. On June 26 2014 04:23 Epishade wrote:On June 25 2014 10:27 Teemursu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2014 19:18 Teemursu wrote:This post is ringing scum to me. My overall read is that he it's scummy to accuse/vote him while everyone else is on the fence with him or leaning scum. The way and the amount of "WHY ME?! AND NOT TOLKIEN" I read from this makes me lean way scummier on him. It understand KotC and both Tolkien had this as one of their reasons to literally bury MM1. At this point I didn't really see as to why it would be so weird to push on KotC instead of Tolkien from MM1's perspective, since both are basically as valid for pushing to either get reads or try to lynch scum. If anyone can help me correct myself with a potential misread, please do! I think in this post he comes off as extremely defensive and even more so aware of what people think of him, which sounds like a very scummy mindset to me. On June 23 2014 19:22 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 19:18 Teemursu wrote:This post is ringing scum to me. My overall read is that he it's scummy to accuse/vote him while everyone else is on the fence with him or leaning scum. The way and the amount of "WHY ME?! AND NOT TOLKIEN" I read from this makes me lean way scummier on him. It understand KotC and both Tolkien had this as one of their reasons to literally bury MM1. At this point I didn't really see as to why it would be so weird to push on KotC instead of Tolkien from MM1's perspective, since both are basically as valid for pushing to either get reads or try to lynch scum. If anyone can help me correct myself with a potential misread, please do! I think in this post he comes off as extremely defensive and even more so aware of what people think of him, which sounds like a very scummy mindset to me. Sorry, I meant this post. The post in what I addressed above also comes off as scummy to me mostly for the same reasons. These two posts were the main accusations I had towards Cats during the night. I think the biggest reason I thought he was scum was his association and similar play style to Tolkien's, who was my top scum at that moment. These cases against Cats really don't sound scummy at all to me. Not townie either, but not scummy, which you say it seems to. The first post he asks people why they find him scummy. You think it's scummy for someone to ask why they're being scumread? I asked the same thing when Nydus and Meat voted for him. So you mean a whole bunch of defensive posting coupled with some responsibility dodging is not scummy at all to you? On June 26 2014 04:23 Epishade wrote:On June 23 2014 09:31 Epishade wrote:
Ok, so, can someone explain why Nydus and MightyMeat are voting on Cats again? I had a slight feeling on Meat being townie for me, but I read through Cats' filter and didn't see anything that really looked scummy to me, so I find it hard to justify a Cats vote unless I missed something.
Would like an explanation from those 2 again why they voted on Cats. It's like when Poof said that a scum is more likely to care about what alignment someone looks like in their posts. I disagree, as that's something I care about no matter what alignment I am. I don't want to post something that would generally make me look suspicious without good reason to do so if I'm townie. Cat's asking why people are scumreading him here is not alignment indicative imo. The second post of Cats that you're referring to doesn't sound scummy to me either. He votes for Meat because Meat claims that something that isn't alignment indicative being viewed scummy looks scummy to him. I'd happen to agree with that, and that weighed my vote against Meat at the time, too. Your cases against Cats seem to rely on, "he sounds very defensive and aware of how people view him, which is a scummy mindset." Like I said to Poof, that's not a scummy thing to do, though Poof seems to think it is, or is at least more likely for a scum to do that.I happen to think too many people hate meatpudding right now for him to be scum. You're getting my vote Teemursu.
##Vote: Teemursu I like your contradictions. you mentioned it wasn;t scummy for Kotc to dodge responsibility which already looks suspicious (If you're a townie, why would you need to repeatedly remind everyone that you're not with the guy who pushed with you, and even scumread him at n1?), then you mentioned 'I don't want to post something that would generally make me look suspicious without good reason to do so if I'm townie.'. so are you able to explain the 'good reason' kotc have for doing that? 'Like I said to Poof, that's not a scummy thing to do, though Poof seems to think it is, or is at least more likely for a scum to do that,' This is your own opinion. Nobody have to follow your thoughts nor understand it completely. If you're voting based on opinions and personal feelings, I don't see why I can't do the same. ##Vote: Epishade
Haru, is there anything behind you vote on Epi other than this one post, and when he switched votes to MM1?[/QUOTE]
After this post I haven't seen you vote on me. Never voted on Epishade, eh?
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It now frustrates me again that we can't vote MeatPudding, he doesn't even know who he is voting for.
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I wish Epishade got lynched today.
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wat
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Yeah, way different.
N1 I posted most of the content I had about D1 analysis. Everyone suddenly posted like half of day 1's content in the last 7 hours I slept. Too bad it didn't really happen this time. 
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