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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Classroom Mafia
Keirathi and Koshi are helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards him or myself.
Sun Tzu said, "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."
This is also true in rhetoric.
The best way to get a belief accepted is to fool people into thinking that they have already accepted it.
Let us play mafia.
Introduction: Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.
The game is typically very active, so the thread may grow large quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play.
Rules: Cheating: Cheating includes (but is not limited to): 1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information. 2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town. 3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role. 4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles. 5. Posting screenshots of your inbox. 6. Posting any PM you receive from a host. 7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip. 8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts. 9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits. 10. Sharing accounts with other players. Only you may post on your account. 11. You may not reveal or hint about the identity of your coach. You may not refer to any idea, course of action, etc. as something that was suggested by your coach. If you feel that any action you are considering may be against the spirit of the game, it is best to contact a host and ensure it is allowed before proceeding.
Posting: Host Color: The color blue is reserved for the hosts of the game to make our posts easy to notice. Please do not use it.
Question Color: The color green is reserved for questions by players for the hosts. Use it to ask the game hosts questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything.
Activity: You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled or replaced.
Smurfs: Smurfs must PM the host because TL doesn't allow multiple accounts otherwise. If the host is unaware of smurfs, you (and/or your smurf) can be banned for having multiple accounts
Spam: Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here.
Editing: Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. "Editing" includes indirect editing like linking an image, then editing the image. Editing your profile or signature are allowed, but if you edit them for any game-related reasons (ie, breadcrumbing, sending messages, etc) this will be considered out-of-thread posting and will be punished.
Inappropriate posts and use of the report post link: If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL moderation staff or using the report post link. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.
Ban discussions: Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.
Play to win. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.
Out of thread communication: It is common for mafia to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Players who have not explicitly been given permission to communicate outside the thread are not allowed to attempt to infiltrate such communication channels. Players who are not mafia are not allowed to communicate about this game outside of the thread.
Voting rules: 1. Voting is done by posting in this thread. 2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote: Zona or ##Vote Zona. Votes must be in bold, and votes not written in the correct fashion will not be counted. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may vote only for other living players in the thread. You may not vote for yourself. 5. This game uses plurality voting, so whoever has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched. There is no minimum number of votes required to lynch someone. 6. The person who is up for the lynch is whoever has the most votes. Bringing another player up to that number of votes doesn't put him up for the lynch; he has to have the most votes. 7. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. + Show Spoiler [Tiebreaking examples] +A game with players A, B, C, D, and E. A is voting for E (1 vote for E), and B and C are voting for D (2 votes for D). D then votes for E (now 2 votes for E) and the day ends. D is lynched, because D was at 2 votes before E was.
C, D, and E are voting for A (3 votes for A), with A and B voting for C first (2 votes for C). D changes his vote from A to B (now 2 votes for A, 1 vote for B), and the day ends. A is lynched, because C was at and A were tired for 2 votes, but C didn't exceed A's number of votes and become the lynch target.
Signups: 7 spots in this game are reserved for new players*. The other 6 spots in this game are open to anyone, but new players still take priority and can possibly bump other players from these spots. *new player - played in 3 or fewer TL mafia games
Signup for the game by posting /in in the thread if you are new, or /in: Open if you are not.
Game-specific rules: Modkills: This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please post in the Ban List.
Replacements This game uses replacements. Players who are inactive may be replaced by other players.
Clues: There are no clues.
PMs PMs and out of thread communication are not allowed in this game, unless your role explicitly allows them.
Time Cycle: This game will follow a 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle. Any votes after the deadline will not count and the game will be put on hold until the night post is up. The deadline for each cycle will be 19:00 GMT (+00:00).
Credits: Thanks to Zona, who inspired me to make this game, and designed this setup.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Game setup information:
This is a mafia game for 13 players. 3 players will be randomly selected as mafia.
The town's win condition:
The town wins when all mafia are eliminated. The mafia's win condition:
The mafia wins if the number of mafia players alive is equal or greater to the number of town players alive. When a player dies in the game, the player's alignment (that is, which team the player wins with), and role will be revealed. This reveal is guaranteed to be accurate.
This game uses a variable open setup. When the game begins, one of the following setups will be chosen:
A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 2 Mafia Goons B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Watcher, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 2 Mafia Goons C) 1 Town Doctor, 1 Town Watcher, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 2 Mafia Goons
The mafia will be informed as to which setup is chosen, but the town will not!
Role descriptions:
Vanilla Townie You have no special abilities, but your voice and your vote are just as important as anyone else's. You win with the town.
Town Cop Every night, you may choose a player to investigate. You will visit the player and receive "Town-aligned" or "Mafia-aligned" as a result. Your results are guaranteed to be accurate. You win with the town.
Town Doctor Every night, you may choose a player other than yourself to protect. You will visit the player, and if the mafia attempt to kill a player you are protecting on the same night, the kill will fail. Both you and your target are notified if you prevent a kill. You win with the town.
Town Watcher Every night, you may choose a player other than yourself to watch. You will learn the names of every player that visits your target the same night. You win with the town.
Mafia Roleblocker Every night, you may choose a player to roleblock, which will prevent them from performing actions and visits that night. The roleblocked player will be notified, even if s/he is vanilla. Every night, the mafia team must choose a player to kill, and a team member to perform the kill. The team member performing the kill will visit the victim that night. You may communicate with other members of your mafia team outside of the game thread at any time. You may roleblock and kill on the same night. You win with the mafia. The mafia team is: A quicktopic has been provided for your team: The setup that is being used for this game is: (A/B/C)
Mafia Goon Every night, the mafia team must choose a player to kill, and a team member to perform the kill. The team member performing the kill will visit the victim that same night. You may communicate with other members of your mafia team outside of the game thread at any time. You win with the mafia. The mafia team is: A quicktopic has been provided for your team: The setup that is being used for this game is: (A/B/C)
Sample PMs:
Vanilla Town Town Cop Town Watcher Town Doctor Mafia Goon The mafia team is: A quicktopic has been provided for your team: The setup that is being used for this game is: (A/B/C) Mafia Roleblocker The mafia team is: A quicktopic has been provided for your team: The setup that is being used for this game is: (A/B/C)
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Player List 1) Chromatically 2) 27ninjabunnies 3) Epishade 4) gobbledydook 5) jabberwockzerg 6) mderg 7) HaruRH 8) sqrtofneg1 9) slOosh 10) Amiko 11) Alakaslam 12) fuba 13) Palmar
Replacement List 1) kushm4sta 2) Meapak_Ziphh 3)
10 of 10 Town-Aligned Players Remaining 3 of 3 Mafia-Aligned Players Remaining
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
As a reminder, everything related to coaching, including who is coaching whom, is off-limits for discussion. Don't tell people whether your coach told you to say something, etc-- this game should procede as though they're not there, except you'll have a vast store of knowledge and help available whenever you need it. I'll publish a list of the coaches and coachees after the game is over. Hopefully this is a learning experience for everyone!
I'm currently looking for more coaches. Please let me know if you're interested.
Current coaches: 1) Darthpunk 2) Cephiro 3) Holyflare 4) Marvellosity
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/in. Time to finish paying dues and get to the real action.
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Wait, technically, since Golden Sun hasn't started yet, I'm a newbie.
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/in pholks, yet this spot is quite OPEN, therefore should it be taken: /obs
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I'll probably join this with a non-reserved slot sometime next week if there is space to do so! If it fills or something, that's okay.
I think it would be neat to coach town... but I should probably get a few more games first
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/in Cause I want to play with Robik
Though, I'll prob /out if cell mafia starts before this.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On May 20 2014 10:22 IAmRobik wrote: /in
I'm still new, right?
Too many games played but you can still /in for an open spot.
On May 20 2014 09:03 Alakaslam wrote: /in pholks, yet this spot is quite OPEN, therefore should it be taken: /obs
I literally don't know what you're saying here.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
/obs
I guess Alakaslam wants to /in: open but in case he does not get a spot because newbies have priority he wants the obs?! :D
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I'm personally guessing that he's encouraging others to sign up. Whom is reading the mighty hijole correctly?? :D
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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actually I forget I sign up for another game elsewhere start soon
/out momentarily may re-/in later depending on circumstance
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On May 20 2014 18:51 Cephiro wrote: I'm personally guessing that he's encouraging others to sign up. Whom is reading the mighty hijole correctly?? :D Cep giro holds the wisdom of CHUPAZI; ShiaoPi, the wisdom of ¡Hijole!
For both are correct
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he's /in: open if he can
but willing to give up the spot and /obs if he can't
ezpz increase your chupazi chakras to my level already
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On May 20 2014 23:52 Eden1892 wrote: he's /in: open if he can
but willing to give up the spot and /obs if he can't
ezpz increase your chupazi chakras to my level already
Eden is now committed to explaining Alakaslam posts throughout the game and giving perfect reads on Slam. HIJOLE
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On May 21 2014 00:12 Amiko wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 23:52 Eden1892 wrote: he's /in: open if he can
but willing to give up the spot and /obs if he can't
ezpz increase your chupazi chakras to my level already Eden is now committed to explaining Alakaslam posts throughout the game and giving perfect reads on Slam. HIJOLE although I'm likely not in, it'd be an honor were I
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
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On May 21 2014 01:00 Holyflare wrote: /coach LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
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I bet HF is a better coach than Robik....
I mean...
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On May 21 2014 02:00 27ninjabunnies wrote: I bet HF is a better coach than Robik....
I mean... I think you mean that HF coaching is an adequate consolation prize.............if you're desperate
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
hey hey i'm the best coach you've ever seen EVER!
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actually i had to /out
buuuuuuut you should play anyway because 1) this cast of coaches looks pretty stronk 2) it's your duty as a TL denizen to play out newbie games! 3) these players look cool 4) i might jump back /in later
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United States1700 Posts
/in: open I think
I will probably out later (because I really shouldn't be playing), but I'll see how fast it fills and how my free time is when it does.
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WHAT THE HECK
/in: Open
I'll out if I have to :D and /coach if you need it. I'd probably just find ways to repost comments from my coaches anyway
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On May 21 2014 10:50 Amiko wrote:WHAT THE HECK /in: OpenI'll out if I have to :D and /coach if you need it. I'd probably just find ways to repost comments from my coaches anyway  Yay!
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Hello chromatically/gobbledygook/jabberwockzerg!
(and to people I know a little bit already) let's fight to see if we can get killed n1! Winner gets popcorn
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United States1700 Posts

I actually really want to play this so I think I will stay in but I find it so hard to commit to that because these games take up so much time...
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Can I be attempted to be killed but saved N1 instead?
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/out
edit: gonna wait til my boyfriend is back to play another one...don't miss playing THAT much
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On May 22 2014 12:37 IAmRobik wrote: /out
edit: gonna wait til my boyfriend is back to play another one...don't miss playing THAT much
DONT DO THIS TO ME DAMMIT! DONT DO IT
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So does this just start when the slots are filled?
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On May 23 2014 10:39 jabberwockzerg wrote: So does this just start when the slots are filled? Yeah, this game will start when we have 13 people. It typically takes between a day and a week for a game to fill up. Once the game is full, I'll PM everyone who is signed up and 12-24 hours later, the game starts.
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/in Lets have some newbie fun
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/in: Open
Make the entry moar official, for to because I continue to suxxu
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
@kush you can in if you'd like. make sure to play nice with the new players!
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Blazinghand
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So I bring wile e coyote
Alakaslam will be scum and wile e will be town
Wile will earn that vet status
Profit
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I don't know if you noticed but I /in'd on page 1 or something. But I was just assuming you felt like I wasn't new enough for the game.
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You said people of any skill level in the ongoing games thread so
/in bbz
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So i think we got all of our people
Hype guys... Soooo much hype.
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why no starts? where be BH?
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He probably figured you would eat us up Palmar :o that's too bad since I was just going to sheep you...
Do people have a preferred date to start? I think I am okay about anytime this week :3
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I can start tomorrow even.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
let the /confirms begin! once everyone has confirmed, we'll get started.
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/obs
Not playing newbie games ever again. I'll just stick to regular games.
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/confirm
Also, I figure that all that work I did looking through filters extensively and trying to figure out who people were in my last newbie game didn't do me any good. I ended up creating cases where there wasn't anything there and getting the wrong results. Probably won't be doing nearly as much of that this game.
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Come on dude... You can confirm....leeeettttssss goooooooo
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/replace /cohost
Whatever you need the first.
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United States1700 Posts
/confirm
My activity might be a little spotty but I should still be active.
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Woot everyone confirmed!!! Leggo
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I AM SO EXCITE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We kill palmar first, comprendre?
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Let's get this show on the road :D
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Just telling you that I don´t have much time tomorrow. So I won´t be able to make like 100+ posts at the start.
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Its okay. We'll just lynch you for it XD
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On May 27 2014 02:34 sqrtofneg1 wrote: We kill palmar first, comprendre? Sounds good XD
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Classroom Mafia
Day 1
This day ends in 49 hours at 19:00 GMT (+00:00). Whoever has the most votes on them at that time gets lynched.
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United States1700 Posts
I'm town everyone, no need to worry.
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glhf
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On May 27 2014 03:04 Chromatically wrote: I'm town everyone, no need to worry. Automatically top of my scum list. ##Vote: Chromatically
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Good morning everyone. My name is Alakaslam and I promise not to play to my meta.
If there is a random use of the word "I" where it doesn't seem to belong, that is because I use my phone and it often interjects that as an autocorrection for any two letter word.
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United States1700 Posts
Are we being legit here or just trolling?
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On May 27 2014 03:06 Alakaslam wrote: Good morning everyone. My name is Alakaslam and I promise not to play to my meta.
If there is a random use of the word "I" where it doesn't seem to belong, that is because I use my phone and it often interjects that as an autocorrection for any two letter word.
Slam not playing his meta?!
Mafia.
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On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling?
Sqrt is being legit
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He can't be legit though, I had the first post which means I have to be town
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On May 27 2014 03:06 Alakaslam wrote: Good morning everyone. My name is Alakaslam and I promise not to play to my meta.
If there is a random use of the word "I" where it doesn't seem to belong, that is because I use my phone and it often interjects that as an autocorrection for any two letter word. Hi Slam.
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I have been asked to be as lucid as possible, which makes sense due to the nature of this game. Therefore, any mindless scrabblings common to my play will happen elsewhere.
I am unused to regular scum hunting using te average tools of reading. Nevertheless, I will consider trying to meta me a false heuristic, and therefore- anyone who tries to do this stubbornly I may conclude is scum aligned.
If I sound like Spock to you, this is perfect. Otherwise I am failing you and apologize.
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Hi people I know: Bunnies Amiko Epishade
And to a lesser extent, fuba and slam.
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On May 27 2014 03:11 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:06 Alakaslam wrote: Good morning everyone. My name is Alakaslam and I promise not to play to my meta.
If there is a random use of the word "I" where it doesn't seem to belong, that is because I use my phone and it often interjects that as an autocorrection for any two letter word. Hi Slam. Greetings, sqrtofneg1.
Prosper. I cannot promise that I wish you to live long in the event you rolled mafia.
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On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt?
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On May 27 2014 03:11 Chromatically wrote: He can't be legit though, I had the first post which means I have to be town
Actually statistically speaking, mafia like to be the first to post.
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On May 27 2014 03:13 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt? I believe they share a connection via video mafia, and will therefore be at ease reading one another.
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On May 27 2014 03:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:11 Chromatically wrote: He can't be legit though, I had the first post which means I have to be town Actually statistically speaking, mafia like to be the first to post. Do you think I'm scum bunnies/did you not like my first post?
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On May 27 2014 03:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:11 Chromatically wrote: He can't be legit though, I had the first post which means I have to be town Actually statistically speaking, mafia like to be the first to post. I guarantee, this will not be a reliable heuristic.
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On May 27 2014 03:13 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt?
Cause this is the third game ive played with sqrt.
I know him pretty well by now.
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On May 27 2014 03:14 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I never roll mafia here. You will eventually, if you have not already.
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On May 27 2014 03:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:13 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt? Cause this is the third game ive played with sqrt. I know him pretty well by now. Was my assumption incorrect?
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On May 27 2014 03:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:13 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt? Cause this is the third game ive played with sqrt. I know him pretty well by now. I do think it's weird because my intention was to get sqrt to answer so I have something to work off of with him.
sqrt why am I scum?
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On May 27 2014 03:15 Alakaslam wrote:You will eventually, if you have not already. Eventually, yes. But unfortunately, (or fortunately), not this time.
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On May 27 2014 03:14 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:13 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt? I believe they share a connection via video mafia, and will therefore be at ease reading one another.
Ive never played with sqrt in video. Just forum.
Also, chrom, i find it a bit weird that you had to declare you are town.
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On May 27 2014 03:17 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:13 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt? Cause this is the third game ive played with sqrt. I know him pretty well by now. I do think it's weird because my intention was to get sqrt to answer so I have something to work off of with him. sqrt why am I scum? I was joking. Bunnies is also joking.
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On May 27 2014 03:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:14 Alakaslam wrote:On May 27 2014 03:13 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt? I believe they share a connection via video mafia, and will therefore be at ease reading one another. Ive never played with sqrt in video. Just forum. Also, chrom, i find it a bit weird that you had to declare you are town. Yes, this.
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uh I guess I'm really bad at reading sarcasm...
The town thing is a habit I've gotten into after playing irl mafia where I just say "I'm town" at the start of the game no matter what.
Legit though, I would highly encourage everyone to check my meta (which is in my profile) because I think I play very differently as town and scum.
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On May 27 2014 03:20 Chromatically wrote: uh I guess I'm really bad at reading sarcasm...
The town thing is a habit I've gotten into after playing irl mafia where I just say "I'm town" at the start of the game no matter what.
Legit though, I would highly encourage everyone to check my meta (which is in my profile) because I think I play very differently as town and scum.
Actually, i refuse to read previous games and meta. People use it too much to declare themselves as town.
To prove to me you are town, you must work for it.
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On May 27 2014 03:11 Alakaslam wrote: I have been asked to be as lucid as possible, which makes sense due to the nature of this game. Therefore, any mindless scrabblings common to my play will happen elsewhere.
I am unused to regular scum hunting using te average tools of reading. Nevertheless, I will consider trying to meta me a false heuristic, and therefore- anyone who tries to do this stubbornly I may conclude is scum aligned.
If I sound like Spock to you, this is perfect. Otherwise I am failing you and apologize.
Understandable...
Seeing you play this way shall be a bit interesting.
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United States1700 Posts
sorry I'll get right to work
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On May 27 2014 03:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:14 Alakaslam wrote:On May 27 2014 03:13 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt? I believe they share a connection via video mafia, and will therefore be at ease reading one another. Ive never played with sqrt in video. Just forum. Also, chrom, i find it a bit weird that you had to declare you are town. According to the "Kenpachi rule" you are scum for this.
However, I am suspicious that this is a joke heuristic.
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United States1700 Posts
Slam, who's the towniest person in the thread right now?
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On May 27 2014 03:27 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:14 Alakaslam wrote:On May 27 2014 03:13 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Are we being legit here or just trolling? Sqrt is being legit Actually, why did you answer this since I was asking sqrt? I believe they share a connection via video mafia, and will therefore be at ease reading one another. Ive never played with sqrt in video. Just forum. Also, chrom, i find it a bit weird that you had to declare you are town. According to the "Kenpachi rule" you are scum for this. However, I am suspicious that this is a joke heuristic.
What is the kenpachi rule?
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On May 27 2014 03:09 fuba wrote: Hi :D
Hi fuba. Where did you disappear to ?
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United States1700 Posts
Kenpachi rule is that when someone claims VT, the first person to attack them for it is scum. Pretty sure it's only for VT claims though (which I did not).
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On May 27 2014 03:31 Chromatically wrote: Kenpachi rule is that when someone claims VT, the first person to attack them for it is scum. Pretty sure it's only for VT claims though (which I did not).
Oh nice rule to know.
Though i didnt attack you. I was merely just stating. It was sqrt who attacked.
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So I'm scum? Nope. Kenpachi rule is incorrect.
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The beginning of this game is really inactive compared to the other games I've played so far.
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I didn't get my coaching thread thingy yet? Any news on that?
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On May 27 2014 03:36 sqrtofneg1 wrote: The beginning of this game is really inactive compared to the other games I've played so far.
I don't think most people were expecting it to start right away.
So, im curious as to why fuba just came in and said him then disappeared.
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I'm not sure if this is against the rules, but did anyone get their coaching qt yet?
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There are no coaches this game. Only in newbie mafia.
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On May 20 2014 08:42 Blazinghand wrote: As a reminder, everything related to coaching, including who is coaching whom, is off-limits for discussion. Don't tell people whether your coach told you to say something, etc-- this game should procede as though they're not there, except you'll have a vast store of knowledge and help available whenever you need it.
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I beg to differ.
On May 20 2014 08:42 Blazinghand wrote: As a reminder, everything related to coaching, including who is coaching whom, is off-limits for discussion. Don't tell people whether your coach told you to say something, etc-- this game should procede as though they're not there, except you'll have a vast store of knowledge and help available whenever you need it. I'll publish a list of the coaches and coachees after the game is over. Hopefully this is a learning experience for everyone!
I'm currently looking for more coaches. Please let me know if you're interested.
Current coaches: 1) Darthpunk 2) Cephiro 3) Holyflare 4) Marvellosity
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sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss
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Apologies if I broke any rules. I don't think I did tho. Just don't reply to my question here:
On May 27 2014 03:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm not sure if this is against the rules, but did anyone get their coaching qt yet?
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Ohhh really? Cool.
Well, lets not discuss coaches anymore, until the mods clarify.
Back to the game.
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I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches.
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On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss
How is he confirmed town?
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So, bunnies, why is it that I'm in all of your tl games so far?
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On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches.
Town are not the only one who get coaches. So do scum.
This is ogi info.
Lets not discuss this anymore
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On May 27 2014 03:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote: So, bunnies, why is it that I'm in all of your tl games so far?
Cause you are stalking me.
Im flattered really.
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On May 27 2014 03:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I didn't get my coaching thread thingy yet? Any news on that? Your coaches will contact you. BH made the QTs already and assigned coaches. I don't know why you guys didn't get the QT yet.
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On May 27 2014 03:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote: So, bunnies, why is it that I'm in all of your tl games so far? Cause you are stalking me. Im flattered really. Ehhh, that might be it.
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On May 27 2014 03:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss How is he confirmed town?
On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This pretty much.
It's generally more likely that he would be asking for a coaching qt if he didn't have a mafia qt, therefore he is probably town. Unless he faked this as mafia, which is kind of breaking the rules so he probably wouldn't do it as mafia.
I feel dirty but it's what must be done.
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On May 27 2014 03:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I didn't get my coaching thread thingy yet? Any news on that? Your coaches will contact you. BH made the QTs already and assigned coaches. I don't know why you guys didn't get the QT yet.
Thanks koshi!!!!
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On May 27 2014 03:43 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss How is he confirmed town? Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This pretty much. It's generally more likely that he would be asking for a coaching qt if he didn't have a mafia qt, therefore he is probably town. Unless he faked this as mafia, which is kind of breaking the rules so he probably wouldn't do it as mafia. I feel dirty but it's what must be done.
You should feel very dirty.
Sorry, im not clearing sqrt for this.
It doesn't matter.
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On May 27 2014 03:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote: So, bunnies, why is it that I'm in all of your tl games so far? Cause you are stalking me. Im flattered really. Ehhh, that might be it.
Welp, let me go hide in a corner now.
Just a might.
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Yeah he's not actually confirmed town ofc. The fact that he posted this means that he knows that the question makes him town, so he would see the benefit of faking it as mafia.
On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches.
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For people who don't know me yet: Hi, I'm sqrtofneg1, an imaginary number. This is my 5th game here. I'm still horrible at this game tho.
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On May 27 2014 03:46 Chromatically wrote:Yeah he's not actually confirmed town ofc. The fact that he posted this means that he knows that the question makes him town, so he would see the benefit of faking it as mafia. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches.
Yes, i know. I get that. But the fact you confirmed him for this makes me a little skeptic of you.
Then you say oh, well he's not confirmed town, he can do this as mafia.
Contradiction much?
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On May 27 2014 03:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:46 Chromatically wrote:Yeah he's not actually confirmed town ofc. The fact that he posted this means that he knows that the question makes him town, so he would see the benefit of faking it as mafia. On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. Yes, i know. I get that. But the fact you confirmed him for this makes me a little skeptic of you. Then you say oh, well he's not confirmed town, he can do this as mafia. Contradiction much? Not really. You guys shouldn't clear me as town for that.
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I can't "confirm" him, I said he was "literally confirmed town" which is obviously exaggeration. Then I explained to you why the question was townie to ask, but in the meantime sqrt posted that post, which made it less townie. I explained that in my next post.
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Introduce yourselves guys!
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Hi! I'm fuba! The game started when I was playing Dragon Age, and then I went to the bathroom. Now I am back, but will probably continue playing Dragon Age while I read :D
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On May 27 2014 03:51 Chromatically wrote: I can't "confirm" him, I said he was "literally confirmed town" which is obviously exaggeration. Then I explained to you why the question was townie to ask, but in the meantime sqrt posted that post, which made it less townie. I explained that in my next post. Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate?
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On May 27 2014 03:58 fuba wrote: Hi! I'm fuba! The game started when I was playing Dragon Age, and then I went to the bathroom. Now I am back, but will probably continue playing Dragon Age while I read :D
Dragon age is fun i used to have it for my pc, but i lost it.
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On May 27 2014 04:00 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:51 Chromatically wrote: I can't "confirm" him, I said he was "literally confirmed town" which is obviously exaggeration. Then I explained to you why the question was townie to ask, but in the meantime sqrt posted that post, which made it less townie. I explained that in my next post. Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate? uh, yes? I was trying to exaggerate, not imply that he was actually confirmed town.
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Wish epishade would speak... We need more people to be active. Im going to go play some hs/ check back here, because i have nothing to go on at the moment.
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Hi sloosh! Introduction maybe? Is it your first time?
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I've played many games on TL Mafia, but took a hiatus b/c real life stuffs. This is my first game back in a while.
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On May 27 2014 04:15 slOosh wrote: I've played many games on TL Mafia, but took a hiatus b/c real life stuffs. This is my first game back in a while. Oh, okay. Do you know any people in this game?
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On May 27 2014 04:00 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:51 Chromatically wrote: I can't "confirm" him, I said he was "literally confirmed town" which is obviously exaggeration. Then I explained to you why the question was townie to ask, but in the meantime sqrt posted that post, which made it less townie. I explained that in my next post. Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate? What is the difference between the two? How would each influence your read on Chromatically?
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On May 27 2014 04:16 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:15 slOosh wrote: I've played many games on TL Mafia, but took a hiatus b/c real life stuffs. This is my first game back in a while. Oh, okay. Do you know any people in this game? I know of Palmar. I don't recall anyone else.
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On May 27 2014 04:17 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:16 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 27 2014 04:15 slOosh wrote: I've played many games on TL Mafia, but took a hiatus b/c real life stuffs. This is my first game back in a while. Oh, okay. Do you know any people in this game? I know of Palmar. I don't recall anyone else.
Hi. Im new....ish.
Ive played video mafia, and epicmafia.
This is my 3rd forum game.
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@bunnies, why did you feel the need to quote sloosh? I mean, you could have easily introduced yourself without quoting him.
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Probs just saying hi to a new face.
So you guys seem to know each other somewhat. Have you guys played as different alignments before?
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I haven't completed a game where they were different alignments, but there's a game going on (golden sun) and I think bunnies is mafia there.
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On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This argument is called "WIFOM" short for "Wine In Front Of Me", a reference to "The Princess Bride" and Vicinni. This specific variant is called "Host WIFOM" and remains WIFOM because Scum can and do use it as cover. I personally loathe it and this is impressive since I love WIFOM. I find it incredibly amusing.
Now, understand that I do NOT consider you confirmed town.
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Hi, I'm jabberwockzerg, or probably just jabber. First game on the forums, have played a bit IRL (gasp) with my Drama Club at school. Eager to find out what makes this sub-forum so awesome <3
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Hi, I don´t really like this introduction thing. I´m mderg.
On May 27 2014 03:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:20 Chromatically wrote: uh I guess I'm really bad at reading sarcasm...
The town thing is a habit I've gotten into after playing irl mafia where I just say "I'm town" at the start of the game no matter what.
Legit though, I would highly encourage everyone to check my meta (which is in my profile) because I think I play very differently as town and scum. Actually, i refuse to read previous games and meta. People use it too much to declare themselves as town. To prove to me you are town, you must work for it. I like this. I really hate when people say they´re town because they´re playing to their town meta.
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On May 27 2014 04:28 jabberwockzerg wrote: Hi, I'm jabberwockzerg, or probably just jabber. First game on the forums, have played a bit IRL (gasp) with my Drama Club at school. Eager to find out what makes this sub-forum so awesome <3 Hi! Well, you're about to find out.
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On May 27 2014 04:28 mderg wrote:Hi, I don´t really like this introduction thing. I´m mderg. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:20 Chromatically wrote: uh I guess I'm really bad at reading sarcasm...
The town thing is a habit I've gotten into after playing irl mafia where I just say "I'm town" at the start of the game no matter what.
Legit though, I would highly encourage everyone to check my meta (which is in my profile) because I think I play very differently as town and scum. Actually, i refuse to read previous games and meta. People use it too much to declare themselves as town. To prove to me you are town, you must work for it. I like this. I really hate when people say they´re town because they´re playing to their town meta. Greetings! I'm not sure where, but I think I've seen your name somewhere or something.
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On May 27 2014 04:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote: @bunnies, why did you feel the need to quote sloosh? I mean, you could have easily introduced yourself without quoting him. This practice improves filter clarity. Do it.
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On May 27 2014 04:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I haven't completed a game where they were different alignments, but there's a game going on (golden sun) and I think bunnies is mafia there. Do not talk about games in progress.
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On May 27 2014 04:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:28 mderg wrote:Hi, I don´t really like this introduction thing. I´m mderg. On May 27 2014 03:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:20 Chromatically wrote: uh I guess I'm really bad at reading sarcasm...
The town thing is a habit I've gotten into after playing irl mafia where I just say "I'm town" at the start of the game no matter what.
Legit though, I would highly encourage everyone to check my meta (which is in my profile) because I think I play very differently as town and scum. Actually, i refuse to read previous games and meta. People use it too much to declare themselves as town. To prove to me you are town, you must work for it. I like this. I really hate when people say they´re town because they´re playing to their town meta. Greetings! I'm not sure where, but I think I've seen your name somewhere or something. probably Diplomacy. Maybe one of the few other games I´ve played here.
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On May 27 2014 04:32 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 27 2014 04:28 mderg wrote:Hi, I don´t really like this introduction thing. I´m mderg. On May 27 2014 03:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:20 Chromatically wrote: uh I guess I'm really bad at reading sarcasm...
The town thing is a habit I've gotten into after playing irl mafia where I just say "I'm town" at the start of the game no matter what.
Legit though, I would highly encourage everyone to check my meta (which is in my profile) because I think I play very differently as town and scum. Actually, i refuse to read previous games and meta. People use it too much to declare themselves as town. To prove to me you are town, you must work for it. I like this. I really hate when people say they´re town because they´re playing to their town meta. Greetings! I'm not sure where, but I think I've seen your name somewhere or something. probably Diplomacy. Maybe one of the few other games I´ve played here. Yes! That's it. Diplomacy.
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Yes. You were Austria and mderg is currently Germany, although I am stubborn and therefore died to Russia Italy redeaux.
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On May 27 2014 04:33 Alakaslam wrote: Yes. You were Austria and mderg is currently Germany, although I am stubborn and therefore died to Russia Italy redeaux. I told you to alliance with me and turn on russia.
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On May 27 2014 04:33 Alakaslam wrote: Yes. You were Austria and mderg is currently Germany, although I am stubborn and therefore died to Russia Italy redeaux. And Russia is probably gonna win
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I blame slam if russia wins.
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Ok, let's get back on track.
Alakaslam, who do you like least and who do you like most right now?
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On May 27 2014 04:41 slOosh wrote: Ok, let's get back on track.
Alakaslam, who do you like least and who do you like most right now? Already? The game is young, child.
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On May 27 2014 04:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:41 slOosh wrote: Ok, let's get back on track.
Alakaslam, who do you like least and who do you like most right now? Already? The game is young, child. ? I think there has been meaningful interactions in thread already.
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On May 27 2014 04:51 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 27 2014 04:41 slOosh wrote: Ok, let's get back on track.
Alakaslam, who do you like least and who do you like most right now? Already? The game is young, child. ? I think there has been meaningful interactions in thread already. I think the game is still in its joking stage.
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I dislike the confirmed town stuff, and yet mourn my foolishness of not allying with sqrtofneg1- I like Russia too much 
I therefore am not find of chromatically and sqrt's heavy backtracking, however, I am unsure of whether or not I regard this a reliable heuristic- if it even is a heuristic to begin with, since it involves host WIFOM.
Best are our outspoken female. I find she hasn't disagree with me much, which unfortunately speaks only so well of her abilities...
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On May 27 2014 04:53 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:51 slOosh wrote:On May 27 2014 04:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 27 2014 04:41 slOosh wrote: Ok, let's get back on track.
Alakaslam, who do you like least and who do you like most right now? Already? The game is young, child. ? I think there has been meaningful interactions in thread already. I think the game is still in its joking stage. And it is time to move on from that.
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On May 27 2014 04:51 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 27 2014 04:41 slOosh wrote: Ok, let's get back on track.
Alakaslam, who do you like least and who do you like most right now? Already? The game is young, child. ? I think there has been meaningful interactions in thread already. Because this.
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On May 27 2014 04:55 Alakaslam wrote: Best are our outspoken female. I find she hasn't disagree with me much, which unfortunately speaks only so well of her abilities... Who is Best?
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Well then slam, could you care to point out those meaningful interactions for me?
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On May 27 2014 04:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote: @bunnies, why did you feel the need to quote sloosh? I mean, you could have easily introduced yourself without quoting him.
I was just saying hi.
Also we can not talk about ongoing games, sqrt.
Regardless of my alignment there, this is an entire different game.
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On May 27 2014 04:56 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:55 Alakaslam wrote: Best are our outspoken female. I find she hasn't disagree with me much, which unfortunately speaks only so well of her abilities... Who is Best?
He means me.
I'm apparently outspoken.
I'm also a female.
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On May 27 2014 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:I dislike the confirmed town stuff, and yet mourn my foolishness of not allying with sqrtofneg1- I like Russia too much  I therefore am not find of chromatically and sqrt's heavy backtracking, however, I am unsure of whether or not I regard this a reliable heuristic- if it even is a heuristic to begin with, since it involves host WIFOM. Best are our outspoken female. I find she hasn't disagree with me much, which unfortunately speaks only so well of her abilities... What was my "heavy backtracking" was and why does it make me scum?
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On May 27 2014 04:56 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:55 Alakaslam wrote: Best are our outspoken female. I find she hasn't disagree with me much, which unfortunately speaks only so well of her abilities... Who is Best? 27NB
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On May 27 2014 05:11 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:I dislike the confirmed town stuff, and yet mourn my foolishness of not allying with sqrtofneg1- I like Russia too much  I therefore am not find of chromatically and sqrt's heavy backtracking, however, I am unsure of whether or not I regard this a reliable heuristic- if it even is a heuristic to begin with, since it involves host WIFOM. Best are our outspoken female. I find she hasn't disagree with me much, which unfortunately speaks only so well of her abilities... What was my "heavy backtracking" was and why does it make me scum? Sqrt literally confirmed town
Well he can't be confirmed town...
Keep your stories straight. And stop defending against "I do not know if I should consider this a heuristic, if it even is a heuristic". This implies inherent guilt...
If I am not even pushing you as scum and you ask me why I think you are scum, I am forced to consider whether or not you are acting under paranoia or guilt.
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Welp now that golden sun mafia is over, i can highly focus on this game.
Also, slam, i think chrom might just be confused here, not necessarily scum.
You do have to admit, i have to reread your posts over and over to fully understand them
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On May 27 2014 05:23 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 05:11 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:I dislike the confirmed town stuff, and yet mourn my foolishness of not allying with sqrtofneg1- I like Russia too much  I therefore am not find of chromatically and sqrt's heavy backtracking, however, I am unsure of whether or not I regard this a reliable heuristic- if it even is a heuristic to begin with, since it involves host WIFOM. Best are our outspoken female. I find she hasn't disagree with me much, which unfortunately speaks only so well of her abilities... What was my "heavy backtracking" was and why does it make me scum? Sqrt literally confirmed town Well he can't be confirmed town... Keep your stories straight. And stop defending against "I do not know if I should consider this a heuristic, if it even is a heuristic". This implies inherent guilt... If I am not even pushing you as scum and you ask me why I think you are scum, I am forced to consider whether or not you are acting under paranoia or guilt. You were asked for "who you like the least" (ie a scumread) and you gave possibly the least committal read in existence, so I asked you to back it up with something.
You didn't. You pointed out a contradiction I made, but you ignored my explanation for it and didn't actually explain why scum were more likely to perform it than town. This looks to me like you don't actually have a reason for disliking it, and you're just blending in because I've already caught some flak for the "contradiction".
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On May 27 2014 05:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote: *yawn*
Sqrt, please tell me you are actually going to do something productive this game.
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On May 27 2014 05:38 27ninjabunnies wrote:Sqrt, please tell me you are actually going to do something productive this game. Eventually yes. Right now, I'm tired out from golden sun.
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On May 27 2014 05:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 05:38 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 05:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote: *yawn* Sqrt, please tell me you are actually going to do something productive this game. Eventually yes. Right now, I'm tired out from golden sun.
Understandable.
So sqrt, what do you think of each person who has talked so far?
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On May 27 2014 05:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 05:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 27 2014 05:38 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 05:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote: *yawn* Sqrt, please tell me you are actually going to do something productive this game. Eventually yes. Right now, I'm tired out from golden sun. Understandable. So sqrt, what do you think of each person who has talked so far? I'll get back to you, gonna take a nap.
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I figured this game was probably starting today, but I was too busy spending time out on my expensive boat at my expensive lake house with my expensive hookers. But here I am, for now at least.
Well, some of you I've played with before. Hellos! You should remember me as mighty hero Epishade, who slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
For those of you that don't know of me, I am mighty hero Epishade, who, in my last mafia game, slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
Also, I'll try not to be so stupidly thorough as I was in my last game, like I said before. There are just some things you can't end up reading into when playing mafia, as people are too unpredictable.
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On May 27 2014 05:43 Epishade wrote: I figured this game was probably starting today, but I was too busy spending time out on my expensive boat at my expensive lake house with my expensive hookers. But here I am, for now at least.
Well, some of you I've played with before. Hellos! You should remember me as mighty hero Epishade, who slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
For those of you that don't know of me, I am mighty hero Epishade, who, in my last mafia game, slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
Also, I'll try not to be so stupidly thorough as I was in my last game, like I said before. There are just some things you can't end up reading into when playing mafia, as people are too unpredictable.
Stop gloating and scum hunt.
Also... Stop throwing your money around, you mafia scum.
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On May 27 2014 05:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 05:43 Epishade wrote: I figured this game was probably starting today, but I was too busy spending time out on my expensive boat at my expensive lake house with my expensive hookers. But here I am, for now at least.
Well, some of you I've played with before. Hellos! You should remember me as mighty hero Epishade, who slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
For those of you that don't know of me, I am mighty hero Epishade, who, in my last mafia game, slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
Also, I'll try not to be so stupidly thorough as I was in my last game, like I said before. There are just some things you can't end up reading into when playing mafia, as people are too unpredictable.
Stop gloating and scum hunt. Also... Stop throwing your money around, you mafia scum. Lol, I'll take a look through and see if anybody stands out for me. I don't think anybody did though when I skimmed through but I'll see again.
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On May 27 2014 05:46 Chromatically wrote: bunnies can you give me one scumread right now?
Everyone who isnt talking right now.
Sqrt i think is semi townie. I have to get a better read off of him, but he is usually a bit trolly in the beginning.
This slam is a different slam than im used to. So i am null on him.
You- i find it weird that you had to declare yourself as town. You say its your meta, but eh. I got my eye on you.
Fuba hasnt given much.
I like sloosh's questioning,
Epishade- i think i can get a better read on him later on. But it is weird for me he had to gloat about last game.
Everyone els hasn't done anything, so we'll have to wait.
Im usually better with reads in late game.
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On May 27 2014 05:43 Epishade wrote: I figured this game was probably starting today, but I was too busy spending time out on my expensive boat at my expensive lake house with my expensive hookers. But here I am, for now at least.
Well, some of you I've played with before. Hellos! You should remember me as mighty hero Epishade, who slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
For those of you that don't know of me, I am mighty hero Epishade, who, in my last mafia game, slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
Also, I'll try not to be so stupidly thorough as I was in my last game, like I said before. There are just some things you can't end up reading into when playing mafia, as people are too unpredictable.
Awesome post.
I´d like you to be thorough. I don´t know how thorough you were in your last game but a certain degree of thoroughness won´t hurt.
Right now I don´t really like sqrtofneg1 (holy shit, that is hard to spell). I don´t like how he said that he´s terrible at this in his introduction post. That´s no big tell, though.
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On May 27 2014 06:01 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 05:43 Epishade wrote: I figured this game was probably starting today, but I was too busy spending time out on my expensive boat at my expensive lake house with my expensive hookers. But here I am, for now at least.
Well, some of you I've played with before. Hellos! You should remember me as mighty hero Epishade, who slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
For those of you that don't know of me, I am mighty hero Epishade, who, in my last mafia game, slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
Also, I'll try not to be so stupidly thorough as I was in my last game, like I said before. There are just some things you can't end up reading into when playing mafia, as people are too unpredictable.
Awesome post. I´d like you to be thorough. I don´t know how thorough you were in your last game but a certain degree of thoroughness won´t hurt. Right now I don´t really like sqrtofneg1 (holy shit, that is hard to spell). I don´t like how he said that he´s terrible at this in his introduction post. That´s no big tell, though.
What about this post do you like?
Just call him imaginary... Or sqrt.
Also, not in defense of him, but this is classroom mafia- for newer players who wish to get better at the game. In a way, we are all terrible, so not sure how that is alignment indicative
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On May 27 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 06:01 mderg wrote:On May 27 2014 05:43 Epishade wrote: I figured this game was probably starting today, but I was too busy spending time out on my expensive boat at my expensive lake house with my expensive hookers. But here I am, for now at least.
Well, some of you I've played with before. Hellos! You should remember me as mighty hero Epishade, who slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
For those of you that don't know of me, I am mighty hero Epishade, who, in my last mafia game, slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
Also, I'll try not to be so stupidly thorough as I was in my last game, like I said before. There are just some things you can't end up reading into when playing mafia, as people are too unpredictable.
Awesome post. I´d like you to be thorough. I don´t know how thorough you were in your last game but a certain degree of thoroughness won´t hurt. Right now I don´t really like sqrtofneg1 (holy shit, that is hard to spell). I don´t like how he said that he´s terrible at this in his introduction post. That´s no big tell, though. What about this post do you like? Just call him imaginary... Or sqrt. Also, not in defense of him, but this is classroom mafia- for newer players who wish to get better at the game. In a way, we are all terrible, so not sure how that is alignment indicative I don´t like it for ingame reasons. It kinda had to laugh reading it. I Should have clarified that.
It´s not necessarily alignment indicative but I don´t see a reason to mention how bad you are at the beginning of the game. So it´s slightly strange to do so in my eyes.
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On May 27 2014 06:07 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 06:01 mderg wrote:On May 27 2014 05:43 Epishade wrote: I figured this game was probably starting today, but I was too busy spending time out on my expensive boat at my expensive lake house with my expensive hookers. But here I am, for now at least.
Well, some of you I've played with before. Hellos! You should remember me as mighty hero Epishade, who slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
For those of you that don't know of me, I am mighty hero Epishade, who, in my last mafia game, slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
Also, I'll try not to be so stupidly thorough as I was in my last game, like I said before. There are just some things you can't end up reading into when playing mafia, as people are too unpredictable.
Awesome post. I´d like you to be thorough. I don´t know how thorough you were in your last game but a certain degree of thoroughness won´t hurt. Right now I don´t really like sqrtofneg1 (holy shit, that is hard to spell). I don´t like how he said that he´s terrible at this in his introduction post. That´s no big tell, though. What about this post do you like? Just call him imaginary... Or sqrt. Also, not in defense of him, but this is classroom mafia- for newer players who wish to get better at the game. In a way, we are all terrible, so not sure how that is alignment indicative I don´t like it for ingame reasons. It kinda had to laugh reading it. I Should have clarified that. It´s not necessarily alignment indicative but I don´t see a reason to mention how bad you are at the beginning of the game. So it´s slightly strange to do so in my eyes.
Okay, understandable.
What do you think about the interactions btween I, sqrt, and chrom?
Also chrom clearing sqrt for his newbtell. (Dont expand on the newb tell- just tell me what you think of it).
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On May 27 2014 06:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 06:07 mderg wrote:On May 27 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 06:01 mderg wrote:On May 27 2014 05:43 Epishade wrote: I figured this game was probably starting today, but I was too busy spending time out on my expensive boat at my expensive lake house with my expensive hookers. But here I am, for now at least.
Well, some of you I've played with before. Hellos! You should remember me as mighty hero Epishade, who slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
For those of you that don't know of me, I am mighty hero Epishade, who, in my last mafia game, slayed evil mafia-doer Eden for the win.
Also, I'll try not to be so stupidly thorough as I was in my last game, like I said before. There are just some things you can't end up reading into when playing mafia, as people are too unpredictable.
Awesome post. I´d like you to be thorough. I don´t know how thorough you were in your last game but a certain degree of thoroughness won´t hurt. Right now I don´t really like sqrtofneg1 (holy shit, that is hard to spell). I don´t like how he said that he´s terrible at this in his introduction post. That´s no big tell, though. What about this post do you like? Just call him imaginary... Or sqrt. Also, not in defense of him, but this is classroom mafia- for newer players who wish to get better at the game. In a way, we are all terrible, so not sure how that is alignment indicative I don´t like it for ingame reasons. It kinda had to laugh reading it. I Should have clarified that. It´s not necessarily alignment indicative but I don´t see a reason to mention how bad you are at the beginning of the game. So it´s slightly strange to do so in my eyes. Okay, understandable. What do you think about the interactions btween I, sqrt, and chrom? Also chrom clearing sqrt for his newbtell. (Dont expand on the newb tell- just tell me what you think of it).
Not sure about that. I like you the most in the interactions.
I don´t agree with it. It wasn´t alignment indicative at all, so clearing him for that is kinda strange.
I think both sqrt and chrom have been strange in some way but it´s too early to draw any proper conclusion from that.
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On May 27 2014 04:16 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:00 fuba wrote:On May 27 2014 03:51 Chromatically wrote: I can't "confirm" him, I said he was "literally confirmed town" which is obviously exaggeration. Then I explained to you why the question was townie to ask, but in the meantime sqrt posted that post, which made it less townie. I explained that in my next post. Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate? What is the difference between the two? How would each influence your read on Chromatically? The difference is intent. According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place.
Ultimately, the thought process doesn't make sense to me. Still need to figure out if I actually think it's scummy.
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On May 27 2014 06:19 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:16 slOosh wrote:On May 27 2014 04:00 fuba wrote:On May 27 2014 03:51 Chromatically wrote: I can't "confirm" him, I said he was "literally confirmed town" which is obviously exaggeration. Then I explained to you why the question was townie to ask, but in the meantime sqrt posted that post, which made it less townie. I explained that in my next post. Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate? What is the difference between the two? How would each influence your read on Chromatically? The difference is intent. According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place. Ultimately, the thought process doesn't make sense to me. Still need to figure out if I actually think it's scummy.
See the thing I find scummy from Chrom on this is that he said Sqrt was confirmed town from his post, And then when I show my distaste for his confirming of sqrt, he then changes it and goes "oh, he's not confirmed at all".
I put both of them as reasonings (as in your reasoning-and my reasoning) as why i dont necessarily like Chrome
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I think I'm the only one who thinks Sqrt right now is town. Chromatically probably too.
Here are my thoughts.
Chromatically is saying Sqrt is likely town for asking about the coaches. Though it's not something that I particularly like doing either, I also think Sqrt wouldn't likely be asking about coaches if he were scum. It'd be a good move by Sqrt if he were actually really mafia and was planning on asking that to appear town, but I don't really think that's what happened here. In my interpretation, Sqrt then jokes about his being confirmed town because of his asking about coaches. Chromatically thinks it's a bit less townie of him to joke about being confirmed town, but I can't see a mafia making a joke about it like that.
Sqrt's probably town for me right now.
Chromatically is also probably town, maybe. Idk that he would go out of his way to claim Sqrt as probable town if he (Chromatically) were Mafia. I would think mafia would just care to give a neutral read on Sqrt if anything.
Bunny, you don't want to clear Sqrt. That's understandable I guess. You think a mafia could have just as easily asked about coaches, but I feel a bit differently about it, and feel that it's more likely that a townie asked about coaches then a mafia. No read on you so far.
Alakaslam seems to be pushing a bit on Chromatically and Sqrt for backtracking, but I believe he's making a big case over a joke. I also am unsure of how what Chromatically said implies inherent guilt. Maybe I misunderstood what Alakaslam was saying. @Alakaslam, can you explain your thought behind that again.
Fuba - I put you kind of in the same boat as Alakaslam. I find it hard to understand what you're trying to push Chromatically on. Your phrasing, to me, is a bit poor in this line, "Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate?" As, to me, they both mean the same thing. You say the difference is intent and I don't really follow much of what you said in the rest of your post, "According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place."
Don't really have a read on anybody else as of yet.
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OK dinner time, I'll be back in an hour OE two.
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I would first like to point out that slam, fuba, and mderg have all taken opportunities to say what I'm doing is strange without really pushing any of it.
But, I will explain it because it is apparently far more complicated than I originally thought.
Read this whole page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450802-classroom-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=8
On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss This is obvious sarcasm, as sqrt is clearly not confirmed anything. I was saying that the sqrt's question was probably town in a facetious way to make fun of the fact that he essentially broke the rules.
On May 27 2014 03:43 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss How is he confirmed town? Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This pretty much. It's generally more likely that he would be asking for a coaching qt if he didn't have a mafia qt, therefore he is probably town. Unless he faked this as mafia, which is kind of breaking the rules so he probably wouldn't do it as mafia. I feel dirty but it's what must be done. This was me explaining why the question was more likely from town, because bunnies asked.
On May 27 2014 03:46 Chromatically wrote:Yeah he's not actually confirmed town ofc. The fact that he posted this means that he knows that the question makes him town, so he would see the benefit of faking it as mafia. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This was me explaining that, obviously, sqrt was not actually confirmed town because it sounded like bunnies thought I was actually saying that. It was also reevaluating sqrt as normal people do when they are disagreed with.
I would like someone to explain what the scum thought process behind these posts would be.
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On May 27 2014 06:36 Chromatically wrote:1) I would first like to point out that slam, fuba, and mderg have all taken opportunities to say what I'm doing is strange without really pushing any of it. But, I will explain it because it is apparently far more complicated than I originally thought. Read this whole page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450802-classroom-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=8Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss 2) This is obvious sarcasm, as sqrt is clearly not confirmed anything. I was saying that the sqrt's question was probably town in a facetious way to make fun of the fact that he essentially broke the rules. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:43 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss How is he confirmed town? On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This pretty much. It's generally more likely that he would be asking for a coaching qt if he didn't have a mafia qt, therefore he is probably town. Unless he faked this as mafia, which is kind of breaking the rules so he probably wouldn't do it as mafia. I feel dirty but it's what must be done. This was me explaining why the question was more likely from town, because bunnies asked. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:46 Chromatically wrote:Yeah he's not actually confirmed town ofc. The fact that he posted this means that he knows that the question makes him town, so he would see the benefit of faking it as mafia. On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This was me explaining that, obviously, sqrt was not actually confirmed town because it sounded like bunnies thought I was actually saying that. It was also reevaluating sqrt as normal people do when they are disagreed with. I would like someone to explain what the scum thought process behind these posts would be.
1) Yeah, that´s true. What´s your conclusion on that?
2) It´s not that obvious. Sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet, so it can never be 100% obvious.
I´m not sure about any scum motivation behind that but it seemed a bit strange.
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On May 27 2014 06:36 Chromatically wrote:I would first like to point out that slam, fuba, and mderg have all taken opportunities to say what I'm doing is strange without really pushing any of it. But, I will explain it because it is apparently far more complicated than I originally thought. Read this whole page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450802-classroom-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=8Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss This is obvious sarcasm, as sqrt is clearly not confirmed anything. I was saying that the sqrt's question was probably town in a facetious way to make fun of the fact that he essentially broke the rules. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:43 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss How is he confirmed town? On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This pretty much. It's generally more likely that he would be asking for a coaching qt if he didn't have a mafia qt, therefore he is probably town. Unless he faked this as mafia, which is kind of breaking the rules so he probably wouldn't do it as mafia. I feel dirty but it's what must be done. This was me explaining why the question was more likely from town, because bunnies asked. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:46 Chromatically wrote:Yeah he's not actually confirmed town ofc. The fact that he posted this means that he knows that the question makes him town, so he would see the benefit of faking it as mafia. On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This was me explaining that, obviously, sqrt was not actually confirmed town because it sounded like bunnies thought I was actually saying that. It was also reevaluating sqrt as normal people do when they are disagreed with. I would like someone to explain what the scum thought process behind these posts would be.
So with the first post, it didn't seem like sarcasm. You stated specifically that he was confirmed town. Where is the sarcasm in that? Also confirming him as town for asking about coaches shouldnt happen. Mafia could ask that regardless of whether or not they have a scum qt,
Also, i think chrom is town here. And we should get off of him.
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On May 27 2014 06:45 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 06:36 Chromatically wrote:1) I would first like to point out that slam, fuba, and mderg have all taken opportunities to say what I'm doing is strange without really pushing any of it. But, I will explain it because it is apparently far more complicated than I originally thought. Read this whole page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450802-classroom-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=8On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss 2) This is obvious sarcasm, as sqrt is clearly not confirmed anything. I was saying that the sqrt's question was probably town in a facetious way to make fun of the fact that he essentially broke the rules. On May 27 2014 03:43 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss How is he confirmed town? On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This pretty much. It's generally more likely that he would be asking for a coaching qt if he didn't have a mafia qt, therefore he is probably town. Unless he faked this as mafia, which is kind of breaking the rules so he probably wouldn't do it as mafia. I feel dirty but it's what must be done. This was me explaining why the question was more likely from town, because bunnies asked. On May 27 2014 03:46 Chromatically wrote:Yeah he's not actually confirmed town ofc. The fact that he posted this means that he knows that the question makes him town, so he would see the benefit of faking it as mafia. On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This was me explaining that, obviously, sqrt was not actually confirmed town because it sounded like bunnies thought I was actually saying that. It was also reevaluating sqrt as normal people do when they are disagreed with. I would like someone to explain what the scum thought process behind these posts would be. 1) Yeah, that´s true. What´s your conclusion on that? 2) It´s not that obvious. Sarcasm is difficult to detect on the internet, so it can never be 100% obvious. I´m not sure about any scum motivation behind that but it seemed a bit strange. Scum entering the thread who need to give an opinion on something would find it easy to jump on something that was already controversial and catching criticism, ie me. Add that to the fact that no one was actually pushing me as scum or giving any reasons why I would actually be scum, just lightly throwing suspicion. It's not a slam dunk or anything, but I think it looks bad. Worst on Slam, not as bad on you because you only gave it when someone specifically asked you.
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Mkay maybe it was just me and the sarcasm wasn't as obvious as I thought. I was under the assumption that it was clear to everyone.
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On May 27 2014 06:55 Chromatically wrote: Mkay maybe it was just me and the sarcasm wasn't as obvious as I thought. I was under the assumption that it was clear to everyone. that´s the internet for you.
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I think at the moment I'm too caught up in how I believed the situation went down to consider that you were being sarcastic from the start. Gonna take a break and try looking at the chain of events from your POV once I've cleared my head :S
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On May 27 2014 06:33 Epishade wrote: I think I'm the only one who thinks Sqrt right now is town. Chromatically probably too.
Here are my thoughts.
Chromatically is saying Sqrt is likely town for asking about the coaches. Though it's not something that I particularly like doing either, I also think Sqrt wouldn't likely be asking about coaches if he were scum. It'd be a good move by Sqrt if he were actually really mafia and was planning on asking that to appear town, but I don't really think that's what happened here. In my interpretation, Sqrt then jokes about his being confirmed town because of his asking about coaches. Chromatically thinks it's a bit less townie of him to joke about being confirmed town, but I can't see a mafia making a joke about it like that.
Sqrt's probably town for me right now.
Chromatically is also probably town, maybe. Idk that he would go out of his way to claim Sqrt as probable town if he (Chromatically) were Mafia. I would think mafia would just care to give a neutral read on Sqrt if anything.
Bunny, you don't want to clear Sqrt. That's understandable I guess. You think a mafia could have just as easily asked about coaches, but I feel a bit differently about it, and feel that it's more likely that a townie asked about coaches then a mafia. No read on you so far.
Alakaslam seems to be pushing a bit on Chromatically and Sqrt for backtracking, but I believe he's making a big case over a joke. I also am unsure of how what Chromatically said implies inherent guilt. Maybe I misunderstood what Alakaslam was saying. @Alakaslam, can you explain your thought behind that again.
Fuba - I put you kind of in the same boat as Alakaslam. I find it hard to understand what you're trying to push Chromatically on. Your phrasing, to me, is a bit poor in this line, "Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate?" As, to me, they both mean the same thing. You say the difference is intent and I don't really follow much of what you said in the rest of your post, "According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place."
Don't really have a read on anybody else as of yet.
I hate that EVERYONE BUT ME Is clearing sqrt for the coaches thing. That kinda pisses me off. And now he is just going to get a pass the entire game, not for his reads, but because he noobtold.
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Okay, back. You guys really shouldn't clear me for coach slip thingy.
Reads so far: Epishade: Town Chromatically: Town Bunnies: Top town. I absolutely love how she's still suspicious of me. slOosh: Leaning town. Everyone else: no idea. No scum reads yet, but eventually they will come.
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On May 27 2014 07:09 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, back. You guys really shouldn't clear me for coach slip thingy.
Reads so far: Epishade: Town Chromatically: Town Bunnies: Top town. I absolutely love how she's still suspicious of me. slOosh: Leaning town. Everyone else: no idea. No scum reads yet, but eventually they will come.
There should be atleast one person to call me scum so i dont die in the night people. Come on.
Lmao
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He's not going to get a pass the entire game. His question was more likely to come from town than scum but my read on him is going to depend on his posting, as usual.
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On May 27 2014 07:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 07:09 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, back. You guys really shouldn't clear me for coach slip thingy.
Reads so far: Epishade: Town Chromatically: Town Bunnies: Top town. I absolutely love how she's still suspicious of me. slOosh: Leaning town. Everyone else: no idea. No scum reads yet, but eventually they will come. There should be atleast one person to call me scum so i dont die in the night people. Come on. Lmao I don´t think anyone would call you scum just so you don´t die in the night
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Chromatically, what do you think of mderg so far?
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yo guys.
I think I'll just watch TV tonight. Will catch up tomorrow.
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On May 27 2014 07:14 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 07:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 07:09 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, back. You guys really shouldn't clear me for coach slip thingy.
Reads so far: Epishade: Town Chromatically: Town Bunnies: Top town. I absolutely love how she's still suspicious of me. slOosh: Leaning town. Everyone else: no idea. No scum reads yet, but eventually they will come. There should be atleast one person to call me scum so i dont die in the night people. Come on. Lmao I don´t think anyone would call you scum just so you don´t die in the night 
Very well then.
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On May 27 2014 07:17 Palmar wrote: yo guys.
I think I'll just watch TV tonight. Will catch up tomorrow.
Palmer, this is so lame.
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On May 27 2014 07:17 Palmar wrote: yo guys.
I think I'll just watch TV tonight. Will catch up tomorrow. Scum confirmed.
Or is he? ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar
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On May 27 2014 07:17 Palmar wrote: yo guys.
I think I'll just watch TV tonight. Will catch up tomorrow. But the internet is SO MUCH FUN
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Oh, so you're here too, jabber. What do you think of sloosh so far?
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Sloosh seems a little eager which could be fishy or he could just be excited to play. Not getting too much from anyone idk
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I now have nowhere to vent. My activity level may suffer due to excessive need or Spock.
Catching up
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On May 27 2014 06:19 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 04:16 slOosh wrote:On May 27 2014 04:00 fuba wrote:On May 27 2014 03:51 Chromatically wrote: I can't "confirm" him, I said he was "literally confirmed town" which is obviously exaggeration. Then I explained to you why the question was townie to ask, but in the meantime sqrt posted that post, which made it less townie. I explained that in my next post. Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate? What is the difference between the two? How would each influence your read on Chromatically? The difference is intent. According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place. Ultimately, the thought process doesn't make sense to me. Still need to figure out if I actually think it's scummy. Welcome to the club fuba. I hate host WIFOM.
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So, slam, what are the top 3 significant posts so far in your opinion?
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On May 27 2014 07:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote: So, slam, what are the top 3 significant posts so far in your opinion?
Answer your own question too, please
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Who asked me a question? I don't see any.
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On May 27 2014 07:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Who asked me a question? I don't see any.
The question you asked, I want you to answer.
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On May 27 2014 06:33 Epishade wrote: I think I'm the only one who thinks Sqrt right now is town. Chromatically probably too.
Here are my thoughts.
Chromatically is saying Sqrt is likely town for asking about the coaches. Though it's not something that I particularly like doing either, I also think Sqrt wouldn't likely be asking about coaches if he were scum. It'd be a good move by Sqrt if he were actually really mafia and was planning on asking that to appear town, but I don't really think that's what happened here. In my interpretation, Sqrt then jokes about his being confirmed town because of his asking about coaches. Chromatically thinks it's a bit less townie of him to joke about being confirmed town, but I can't see a mafia making a joke about it like that.
Sqrt's probably town for me right now.
Chromatically is also probably town, maybe. Idk that he would go out of his way to claim Sqrt as probable town if he (Chromatically) were Mafia. I would think mafia would just care to give a neutral read on Sqrt if anything.
Bunny, you don't want to clear Sqrt. That's understandable I guess. You think a mafia could have just as easily asked about coaches, but I feel a bit differently about it, and feel that it's more likely that a townie asked about coaches then a mafia. No read on you so far.
Alakaslam seems to be pushing a bit on Chromatically and Sqrt for backtracking, but I believe he's making a big case over a joke. I also am unsure of how what Chromatically said implies inherent guilt. Maybe I misunderstood what Alakaslam was saying. @Alakaslam, can you explain your thought behind that again.
Fuba - I put you kind of in the same boat as Alakaslam. I find it hard to understand what you're trying to push Chromatically on. Your phrasing, to me, is a bit poor in this line, "Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate?" As, to me, they both mean the same thing. You say the difference is intent and I don't really follow much of what you said in the rest of your post, "According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place."
Don't really have a read on anybody else as of yet.
Sure.
I explained who I liked and disliked in reply to a query, stating that I don't hold that to be a heuristic. Sloosh wants the game moving and so do I so I answered.
I have no absolute scum read at this point, and that is not sufficient heuristic to launch a ghost-OMGUS FoS from.
But for chromatically to take me so extremely, surprised me enough to wonder if maybe I actually should scumread him.
I think this isn't the situation.
As far as my scum play under this meta, I simply act far more classic TL townie. Ask Kush.
Also I would hard bus, we were savagely accusing each other for the bus and rofling in the qt in extractor trick.
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Oh got it.
Significant post #1: My asking for coaching thingy
Significant post #2: Epishade's reads
Significant post #3: My reads
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On May 27 2014 07:18 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 07:17 Palmar wrote: yo guys.
I think I'll just watch TV tonight. Will catch up tomorrow. Scum confirmed. Or is he? ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmar
Great, another game where sqrt posts two sentences per post, and random votes people without having a basis for it.
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On May 27 2014 07:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Oh got it.
Significant post #1: My asking for coaching thingy
Significant post #2: Epishade's reads
Significant post #3: My reads
Try again.
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Actually, this is pretty significant too.
On May 27 2014 06:36 Chromatically wrote:I would first like to point out that slam, fuba, and mderg have all taken opportunities to say what I'm doing is strange without really pushing any of it. But, I will explain it because it is apparently far more complicated than I originally thought. Read this whole page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450802-classroom-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=8Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss This is obvious sarcasm, as sqrt is clearly not confirmed anything. I was saying that the sqrt's question was probably town in a facetious way to make fun of the fact that he essentially broke the rules. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:43 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss How is he confirmed town? On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This pretty much. It's generally more likely that he would be asking for a coaching qt if he didn't have a mafia qt, therefore he is probably town. Unless he faked this as mafia, which is kind of breaking the rules so he probably wouldn't do it as mafia. I feel dirty but it's what must be done. This was me explaining why the question was more likely from town, because bunnies asked. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 03:46 Chromatically wrote:Yeah he's not actually confirmed town ofc. The fact that he posted this means that he knows that the question makes him town, so he would see the benefit of faking it as mafia. On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This was me explaining that, obviously, sqrt was not actually confirmed town because it sounded like bunnies thought I was actually saying that. It was also reevaluating sqrt as normal people do when they are disagreed with. I would like someone to explain what the scum thought process behind these posts would be.
Soft defending himself.
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On May 27 2014 07:51 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Actually, this is pretty significant too. Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 06:36 Chromatically wrote:I would first like to point out that slam, fuba, and mderg have all taken opportunities to say what I'm doing is strange without really pushing any of it. But, I will explain it because it is apparently far more complicated than I originally thought. Read this whole page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450802-classroom-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=8On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss This is obvious sarcasm, as sqrt is clearly not confirmed anything. I was saying that the sqrt's question was probably town in a facetious way to make fun of the fact that he essentially broke the rules. On May 27 2014 03:43 Chromatically wrote:On May 27 2014 03:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 03:40 Chromatically wrote: sqrt is literally confirmed town, discuss How is he confirmed town? On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This pretty much. It's generally more likely that he would be asking for a coaching qt if he didn't have a mafia qt, therefore he is probably town. Unless he faked this as mafia, which is kind of breaking the rules so he probably wouldn't do it as mafia. I feel dirty but it's what must be done. This was me explaining why the question was more likely from town, because bunnies asked. On May 27 2014 03:46 Chromatically wrote:Yeah he's not actually confirmed town ofc. The fact that he posted this means that he knows that the question makes him town, so he would see the benefit of faking it as mafia. On May 27 2014 03:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I'm confirmed town. I asked about coaches. This was me explaining that, obviously, sqrt was not actually confirmed town because it sounded like bunnies thought I was actually saying that. It was also reevaluating sqrt as normal people do when they are disagreed with. I would like someone to explain what the scum thought process behind these posts would be. Soft defending himself.
What you mean soft defending himself?
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It's like this. He town read me kind of, and then somewhat changes his mind on it. Now, in this post, he's explaining his thought process to come off as not insane. He's soft defending himself by explaining himself.
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On May 27 2014 07:57 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Did that make sense?
Sorta?
I'll reread it a bit to make sure i understood.
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I don´t really like how sqrt is asking random people about other random people. I don´t see what to get out of these questions.
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going to sleep now. Probably won´t be back before tomorrow evening.
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On May 27 2014 06:33 Epishade wrote: I think I'm the only one who thinks Sqrt right now is town. Chromatically probably too.
Here are my thoughts.
Chromatically is saying Sqrt is likely town for asking about the coaches. Though it's not something that I particularly like doing either, I also think Sqrt wouldn't likely be asking about coaches if he were scum. It'd be a good move by Sqrt if he were actually really mafia and was planning on asking that to appear town, but I don't really think that's what happened here. In my interpretation, Sqrt then jokes about his being confirmed town because of his asking about coaches. Chromatically thinks it's a bit less townie of him to joke about being confirmed town, but I can't see a mafia making a joke about it like that.
Sqrt's probably town for me right now.
Chromatically is also probably town, maybe. Idk that he would go out of his way to claim Sqrt as probable town if he (Chromatically) were Mafia. I would think mafia would just care to give a neutral read on Sqrt if anything.
Bunny, you don't want to clear Sqrt. That's understandable I guess. You think a mafia could have just as easily asked about coaches, but I feel a bit differently about it, and feel that it's more likely that a townie asked about coaches then a mafia. No read on you so far.
Alakaslam seems to be pushing a bit on Chromatically and Sqrt for backtracking, but I believe he's making a big case over a joke. I also am unsure of how what Chromatically said implies inherent guilt. Maybe I misunderstood what Alakaslam was saying. @Alakaslam, can you explain your thought behind that again.
Fuba - I put you kind of in the same boat as Alakaslam. I find it hard to understand what you're trying to push Chromatically on. Your phrasing, to me, is a bit poor in this line, "Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate?" As, to me, they both mean the same thing. You say the difference is intent and I don't really follow much of what you said in the rest of your post, "According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place."
Don't really have a read on anybody else as of yet.
I would like to deviate and think that any of them can still be mafia. Just a few lines won't cut it for analysis. Reading last minute vote changes and 'extraordinary' claims might be my reads for alignment.
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On May 27 2014 08:13 mderg wrote: I don´t really like how sqrt is asking random people about other random people. I don´t see what to get out of these questions.
Easier to gather intel without waiting for everyone to post, then filter. Don't you think so?
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On May 27 2014 07:15 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Chromatically, what do you think of mderg so far? I didn't like him after his first few posts, but his recent posting feels better so I don't want to lynch him right now. Null slightly leaning town I guess.
Why?
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On May 27 2014 07:55 sqrtofneg1 wrote: It's like this. He town read me kind of, and then somewhat changes his mind on it. Now, in this post, he's explaining his thought process to come off as not insane. He's soft defending himself by explaining himself. Also what's your point here? Like why is the post "significant"?
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On May 27 2014 07:44 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 06:33 Epishade wrote: I think I'm the only one who thinks Sqrt right now is town. Chromatically probably too.
Here are my thoughts.
Chromatically is saying Sqrt is likely town for asking about the coaches. Though it's not something that I particularly like doing either, I also think Sqrt wouldn't likely be asking about coaches if he were scum. It'd be a good move by Sqrt if he were actually really mafia and was planning on asking that to appear town, but I don't really think that's what happened here. In my interpretation, Sqrt then jokes about his being confirmed town because of his asking about coaches. Chromatically thinks it's a bit less townie of him to joke about being confirmed town, but I can't see a mafia making a joke about it like that.
Sqrt's probably town for me right now.
Chromatically is also probably town, maybe. Idk that he would go out of his way to claim Sqrt as probable town if he (Chromatically) were Mafia. I would think mafia would just care to give a neutral read on Sqrt if anything.
Bunny, you don't want to clear Sqrt. That's understandable I guess. You think a mafia could have just as easily asked about coaches, but I feel a bit differently about it, and feel that it's more likely that a townie asked about coaches then a mafia. No read on you so far.
Alakaslam seems to be pushing a bit on Chromatically and Sqrt for backtracking, but I believe he's making a big case over a joke. I also am unsure of how what Chromatically said implies inherent guilt. Maybe I misunderstood what Alakaslam was saying. @Alakaslam, can you explain your thought behind that again.
Fuba - I put you kind of in the same boat as Alakaslam. I find it hard to understand what you're trying to push Chromatically on. Your phrasing, to me, is a bit poor in this line, "Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate?" As, to me, they both mean the same thing. You say the difference is intent and I don't really follow much of what you said in the rest of your post, "According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place."
Don't really have a read on anybody else as of yet.
Sure. I explained who I liked and disliked in reply to a query, stating that I don't hold that to be a heuristic. Sloosh wants the game moving and so do I so I answered. I have no absolute scum read at this point, and that is not sufficient heuristic to launch a ghost-OMGUS FoS from. But for chromatically to take me so extremely, surprised me enough to wonder if maybe I actually should scumread him.I think this isn't the situation. As far as my scum play under this meta, I simply act far more classic TL townie. Ask Kush. Also I would hard bus, we were savagely accusing each other for the bus and rofling in the qt in extractor trick. So Slam, I get that you're saying that you don't have a strong scumread on me, but it sounds to me like you are saying some of my actions were scummy. Did/do you think that my contradiction and my question to you were scummy actions in and of themselves?
Like does the bolded mean that you thought the way I approached that was scummy?
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On May 27 2014 08:13 mderg wrote: I don´t really like how sqrt is asking random people about other random people. I don´t see what to get out of these questions. He did that in the last newbie game too iirc. It's just his way of playing. Got him lynched too lol.
@Alakaslam, Ok, I think I see what you were trying to do then. You were trying to get a reaction from Chromatically by saying what he was doing was backtracking. But you say you don't really trust your read on Chromatically because his reaction still isn't enough to go on. Is that right?
Also, you say that you think that Chromatically took you so extremely, such that you thought you should scumread him, but you didn't. How else should he have reacted?
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Or rather, instead of how else should he have reacted, what made you think it was extreme of him to defend himself.
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On May 27 2014 08:18 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 06:33 Epishade wrote: I think I'm the only one who thinks Sqrt right now is town. Chromatically probably too.
Here are my thoughts.
Chromatically is saying Sqrt is likely town for asking about the coaches. Though it's not something that I particularly like doing either, I also think Sqrt wouldn't likely be asking about coaches if he were scum. It'd be a good move by Sqrt if he were actually really mafia and was planning on asking that to appear town, but I don't really think that's what happened here. In my interpretation, Sqrt then jokes about his being confirmed town because of his asking about coaches. Chromatically thinks it's a bit less townie of him to joke about being confirmed town, but I can't see a mafia making a joke about it like that.
Sqrt's probably town for me right now.
Chromatically is also probably town, maybe. Idk that he would go out of his way to claim Sqrt as probable town if he (Chromatically) were Mafia. I would think mafia would just care to give a neutral read on Sqrt if anything.
Bunny, you don't want to clear Sqrt. That's understandable I guess. You think a mafia could have just as easily asked about coaches, but I feel a bit differently about it, and feel that it's more likely that a townie asked about coaches then a mafia. No read on you so far.
Alakaslam seems to be pushing a bit on Chromatically and Sqrt for backtracking, but I believe he's making a big case over a joke. I also am unsure of how what Chromatically said implies inherent guilt. Maybe I misunderstood what Alakaslam was saying. @Alakaslam, can you explain your thought behind that again.
Fuba - I put you kind of in the same boat as Alakaslam. I find it hard to understand what you're trying to push Chromatically on. Your phrasing, to me, is a bit poor in this line, "Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate?" As, to me, they both mean the same thing. You say the difference is intent and I don't really follow much of what you said in the rest of your post, "According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place."
Don't really have a read on anybody else as of yet.
I would like to deviate and think that any of them can still be mafia. Just a few lines won't cut it for analysis. Reading last minute vote changes and 'extraordinary' claims might be my reads for alignment.
Well, of course any of them could be mafia. It's not exactly the greatest thing to clear someone on the first day or so when there's so little information to go on. I just mean that, given the information that I've been able to pick out so far, these are my reads. I'm sure they'll probably change as the game goes on.
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On May 27 2014 08:45 Epishade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 08:18 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 06:33 Epishade wrote: I think I'm the only one who thinks Sqrt right now is town. Chromatically probably too.
Here are my thoughts.
Chromatically is saying Sqrt is likely town for asking about the coaches. Though it's not something that I particularly like doing either, I also think Sqrt wouldn't likely be asking about coaches if he were scum. It'd be a good move by Sqrt if he were actually really mafia and was planning on asking that to appear town, but I don't really think that's what happened here. In my interpretation, Sqrt then jokes about his being confirmed town because of his asking about coaches. Chromatically thinks it's a bit less townie of him to joke about being confirmed town, but I can't see a mafia making a joke about it like that.
Sqrt's probably town for me right now.
Chromatically is also probably town, maybe. Idk that he would go out of his way to claim Sqrt as probable town if he (Chromatically) were Mafia. I would think mafia would just care to give a neutral read on Sqrt if anything.
Bunny, you don't want to clear Sqrt. That's understandable I guess. You think a mafia could have just as easily asked about coaches, but I feel a bit differently about it, and feel that it's more likely that a townie asked about coaches then a mafia. No read on you so far.
Alakaslam seems to be pushing a bit on Chromatically and Sqrt for backtracking, but I believe he's making a big case over a joke. I also am unsure of how what Chromatically said implies inherent guilt. Maybe I misunderstood what Alakaslam was saying. @Alakaslam, can you explain your thought behind that again.
Fuba - I put you kind of in the same boat as Alakaslam. I find it hard to understand what you're trying to push Chromatically on. Your phrasing, to me, is a bit poor in this line, "Are you saying that the phrase itself was an exaggeration, or you meant to exaggerate?" As, to me, they both mean the same thing. You say the difference is intent and I don't really follow much of what you said in the rest of your post, "According to him, he didn't mean what he was saying from the start. I find this weird because he followed up that first statement with more evidence to support it, along with the assertion that finding sqrt to be town is "what must be done". He doesn't think sqtr is confirmed town, but says he's confirmed town, gives evidence that he is confirmed town, then switches to saying he's not confirmed town for the only reason that would have made sqtr not confirmed town in the first place."
Don't really have a read on anybody else as of yet.
I would like to deviate and think that any of them can still be mafia. Just a few lines won't cut it for analysis. Reading last minute vote changes and 'extraordinary' claims might be my reads for alignment. Well, of course any of them could be mafia. It's not exactly the greatest thing to clear someone on the first day or so when there's so little information to go on. I just mean that, given the information that I've been able to pick out so far, these are my reads. I'm sure they'll probably change as the game goes on.
It almost feels like sqrt will be a townie at the back of some peoples' mind, so I wanted to align myself for neutrality.
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On May 27 2014 08:39 Epishade wrote: EBWOP:
Or rather, instead of how else should he have reacted, what made you think it was extreme of him to defend himself. can't really put a finger on it, but his tone was probably more defensive than it needs to be. Not making a call one way or the other just stuck out in my mind.
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On May 27 2014 09:16 jabberwockzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 08:39 Epishade wrote: EBWOP:
Or rather, instead of how else should he have reacted, what made you think it was extreme of him to defend himself. can't really put a finger on it, but his tone was probably more defensive than it needs to be. Not making a call one way or the other just stuck out in my mind. Bahahahaha
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On May 27 2014 08:37 Epishade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 08:13 mderg wrote: I don´t really like how sqrt is asking random people about other random people. I don´t see what to get out of these questions. He did that in the last newbie game too iirc. It's just his way of playing. Got him lynched too lol. @Alakaslam, Ok, I think I see what you were trying to do then. You were trying to get a reaction from Chromatically by saying what he was doing was backtracking. But you say you don't really trust your read on Chromatically because his reaction still isn't enough to go on. Is that right? Also, you say that you think that Chromatically took you so extremely, such that you thought you should scumread him, but you didn't. How else should he have reacted? No, I was answering sloosh. Who asked for my "least favorite and most favorite ppl"
Chrom and sqrt were the least.
Chrom quickly took that as "I think he's scummy" and started to defend versus seeing what I said and simply saying "well at first I thought so but I realized that..."
This answers both questions. Because since the answer to the first one is "no", the auxiliary question is irrelevant.
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