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Actually, deadlines probably won't bother me much at all. I think I'd just prefer to be around to see them and whatnot. Take everyone else's preferences above mine. | ||
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Let's get Holyflare. He probably rolled scum. Again. | ||
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Just fyi. | ||
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On May 13 2014 12:47 BlueyD wrote: Seeing how only scum have NK in this game, you're either lying or scum. Either way... ##Vote Cavalinho Damn it. You got me. Lynch pls. | ||
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On May 13 2014 12:50 Holyflare wrote: how can you play this game without role claiming x_x I assume you're talking to me? | ||
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On May 13 2014 12:51 Holyflare wrote: cava you saying you're mafia right? I'm joking. Are we really going to do this again? After what happened to Vivax last game? | ||
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On May 13 2014 12:51 Holyflare wrote: i mean just in general Lying as town opens up new plays that can never be made when you behave as a perfect townie. I was considering faking a guilty on Koshi, but I only thought of that after I claimed that I was rb'd. | ||
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On May 13 2014 13:02 fuba wrote: I have no idea what to think atm XD ...Why did you post this? | ||
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It depends on how serious we're actually being. | ||
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On May 13 2014 13:06 Holyflare wrote: you tell me what it meant in your mind at the time The entire game wound up revolving around some dumb bullshit post I made early game and it got someone lynched because...Reasons? I still don't know what Vivax was doing that game but w/e. | ||
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On May 13 2014 13:07 fuba wrote: Because I feel like I'm missing something that everyone else is privy to. Why would you think this so early? | ||
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On May 13 2014 13:10 Holyflare wrote: because i pushed him as a mislynch that's why, so why is this the same? So you honestly believe that it wasn't because of any of the reasons I brought up? | ||
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On May 13 2014 13:12 Holyflare wrote: troll post 1, troll post 2, troll post 3, troll post 4: serious post 1 against troll post 4? Yes. This is exactly what happened last game. Someone claimed I was being super serious/defensive because I wanted the game to start. | ||
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On May 13 2014 13:17 Holyflare wrote: completely different, last game you responded to questions raised about why you voted someone not vivax and here it's a change of attitude on someone following our line of trolling No, it's really not. Vivax pushed me and said stupid shit like, "he didn't mention me, he's being defensive, yadda yadda etc etc." Now you're pushing me and saying stupid shit like, "he claimed mafia in a joke post, he's scum, I'm gonna misrepresent what happened in the other game, yadda yadda etc etc." This is exactly what happened last game. | ||
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On May 13 2014 15:30 kushm4sta wrote: cav you honestly believe you are "set to be lynched"? Yes. | ||
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On May 14 2014 01:34 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: Everyone saying holy wouldnt play like this as scum. That was only two people though so I need more opinions (not really in the loop yet). Cav is odd sure but its the only alternative I have so far. What are your opinions on both? Odd how? How am I odd for thinking I am going to be lynched? Because, guess what, I have three votes on me and it looks a lot like I'm going to be lynched. You don't think that's a problem? | ||
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On May 14 2014 01:39 thrawn2112 wrote: I don't think you'll be lynched if it makes you feel better. Slightly. Only slightly. | ||
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Who trolls by outing their confusion? >.> | ||
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Also, almost nobody has done anything alignment indicative yet. I think you're town this game (again, because it just went so well the first time) because of your approach/desire to solve the game, and because you lack the same interest in making friends that you have when you're scum. But that's the only thing thus far that I can comment on. I don't feel like anything else said so far has been alignment indicative. For anyone. | ||
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Bluey why are you questioning people about being on my wagon while keeping your vote on me? I don't understand what your agenda is here. Do you want me lynched or not? Why is a vote on me "safe?" Why would you want a "safe" vote? | ||
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You strike me as a relatively new player, so I'm going to give you some advice: no does not mean yes. Don't sit here and tell people that I'm scummy because I don't want to die, because not wanting to die is not alignment indicative. | ||
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On May 14 2014 06:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: and of that list i'm gona stick with cav, all the rest could just be bad town but he's just playing pretty scummy however you look at it No, I am not playing scummy at all. You are just being obtuse and you're really starting to agitate me. | ||
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I'll respond to this bullshit when I get back to the gym. Try not to fucking ruin everything when I'm gone. HF, I'll gladly explain my read on you when I get back. It might be a long post. | ||
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Vivax The difference between this game and last game was that you knew my meta of being lynched early and often and for poor reasons, and you still tried to push me under the guise that I was being overdefensive and scummy for "not mentioning you in that post..." whatever the fuck that even means. This game I am being voted because I cracked a joke. That is a world of difference away from being lynched because you picked at some post for whatever reason and tried to make it out as scummy when it clearly wasn't scummy in the slightest. (Though, to be fair, I just wasn't around to unvote you near the time you got totally wagoned, because my read changed later on. Apologies. =/ ) Also, my read on Holyflare is mostly based on meta (which I will get to tonight) and not really based on his early joke case. I get what you're trying to say, and I want to think that you're town for saying these things and bringing legitimate analysis into the thread, but it's wrong and I feel like you're missing some of the pieces of what I'm doing. (Which I will hopefully fix ASAP.) | ||
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On May 14 2014 11:09 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: I read kush as town just cause he was talking about some ingenious new scumhunting tactic which I hope wasn't just him covering himself if he rolled scum. So I'm guessing thats what's going on I'm glad to see that you're townreading people for things they said before the game actually started. 10/10 | ||
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On May 14 2014 06:38 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: convince me you're not then! don't just sit here and tell me you're not explain why you aren't becasue i'm not voting you becasue you dont wanna die( i kknow that feel brah) i'm voting you because a)holyflare is right that was a very odd read b)your defense at first was weak-ish but really not bad. what made me sketched out was how you responded later. stuff like you're not even defending yourself now you're just calling us all stupid for voting you and that's scummy stuff right there don't worry holy i'll stick on this Here's why you shouldn't vote me: Because you are very clearly not basing your reads on the actual goings-on in the thread. Those first two quotes are clearly centered on me defending myself, and the third one was taken out of context completely. Every bone in my body is screaming at me to try to convince you otherwise, but it's pretty evident that you have no actual compunction to listen to what I'm saying. And also, stop trying to buddy Holyflare. That sickens me. | ||
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On May 14 2014 07:13 BlueyD wrote: Cav you seem to have this weird obsession with the word "safe", which you put in quote marks even though I didn't use it. In case this isn't clear yet: Making shit up won't help you. My vote says it enjoys your fear, and it stays on you for now. --- Dicksmash why do you townread kush? I don't see it. Most of his posts so far are useless and you admit yourself you don't see the point of all the graphs/timezones stuff. Apologies, I misread your earlier post. Instead, tell me why voting me is "easy" and ask yourself if you should have an issue with that. | ||
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On May 14 2014 06:30 Holyflare wrote: I'm going to hold you to this because there's absolutely 0 backing out of it for you now. I say this because he is actually mafia. There's no way he town reads me so quickly after just getting rolled when he was town and I was mafia. ##unvote ##vote Cavalinho It's actually pretty easy. You're the one player on the site that I have the most experience playing with, and I have firsthand experience of your town/scumgames. I know it might sound pompous, but I think I have your approach figured out to an extent. In both Cultured and Glory, you rolled scum. Here's how you opened and how you maintained your play throughout one of these games... Your opening in Glory: I'm feeling pretty damn horny today, what about you? 18/f/cali u? i'm wearing some nice black lace lingerie: http://www.annsummers.com/p/rhea-black-babydoll/01stblas1041006 kinda like this wht u wearin bby? The rest of your Glory play was accentuated by you attempting to build relationships/trust between yourself and the other townies, most notably myself ( :D ). The most notable aspect of this play became evident (in hindsight) during the finale, where you outed your "plan" to vote mderg: cav, embrace my play, it is coming!™ CAV COME BACK, SAY SOMETHING, SOOTHE ME, I NEED TO BE SURE GOD DAMN IT MAN THAT WAS PERFECT flame me end game if this goes wrong ##vote mderg Obviously I don't want to clutter this entire page with quotes and whatnot, but a simple filter dive this game reveals almost none of that. You have no compunction to build these kinds of relationships...Because you are town. Sure, there are some jokes in there, but it's clear that you're telling (some) jokes with the intent of being funny, rather than with the intent to exploit them down the road. That's my current 2 cents. This read isn't set in stone, but I like you as town for the moment. (I can provide more quotes if needed.) | ||
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On May 14 2014 12:37 thrawn2112 wrote: cav do you think any of the people pushing your lynch are scummy? Yes. I think Judge is scummy. I dont understand how you go from this: Moar HolyFlare votes pl0x. Case is that he's scummy and painfully obvious about it. Lynch on Cav is bad and you should feel bad if you're on it or support it. To this: BUUUUUUUT a lot of junk has happened since then and now and this is much better: ##Vote: Cavalinho Dude has done not a damn thing but be on the defensive the entire game. Kill it. With fire, preferably. I made a clear intent to return to the thread with my reads, and this dude just goes, "meh, fuck this guy." With over 70 games on mafiascum of all places, you would think that he knows that being "defensive" and trying to correct peoples' lines of thinking is hardly alignment indicative. ##Vote: Judge | ||
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On May 14 2014 12:52 thrawn2112 wrote: Hm. Did you just now realize judge was scummy or is this something you realized earlier? As soon as I started making my long list of posts. I've had a lot of ground to cover, as you can see. | ||
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On May 14 2014 13:00 thrawn2112 wrote: nope do you mean yes | ||
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I'm not stupid wtf. :< | ||
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Thrawn, why is Bluey your #2? | ||
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I felt like it would be hard for him to fabricate his current line of thinking if he were scum, especially with less than a handful of games under his belt. | ||
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On May 14 2014 14:27 thrawn2112 wrote: so do you disagree with me on fuba? lmao this conversation feels so stupid. this game is just boring or something I don't have a read on fuba. And also, yes this game is boring. Do you wanna fuck? | ||
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I lean town on him slightly, but maybe I'm biased. >.> | ||
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On May 15 2014 00:38 Vivax wrote:Everyone pretty much found HF's reason to vote you for the scumclaim shitty I think, but his arguments which focus on the follow up were similar to mine, so you can't say that all votes on you stem from the joke. Yes, but that doesn't erase the fact that people placed votes on me because of it and didn't move them. Btw last game you should have realized HF was scum the moment he pushed the lynch on Steve right after my lynch. The timing for posting that made no sense cause no matter my alignment Steve would have been scummy from the beginning in HF's eyes for what he did, yet he pretty much let Steve slide and then started posting cases on him once my lynch was done. Enough offtopic. Tbh, he should have been lynched when he didn't die D2, and most certainly when he didn't die D3. Everything aside from that is window dressing. I do have another question and it's about you commenting so negatively on DSMIC, yet you feel like only giving Judge a scumread. Do you townread DSMIC, why and how? A guy who goes from HF to you as scumreads is scummy but the guy you say doesn't listen to you, buddies HF and takes your stuff out of context isn't? My initial read of DS was based on the fact that he reminds me of the people that I used to play with in those newbie games. I don't like him because I think he's an idiot and refuses to base his reads on actual things, but he's still most likely town. Cause I too thought HF was scummy initially for voting you based off a scumclaim, but your followup made me reconsider so I would view Judge's reaction in this case as natural, cause analogous to mine. Pretty sure Holy was joking up until he said "he's honestly mafia this time." His case now boils down to, "he shouldn't read me as town because I stomped him in the last game." Partially true, but I think I have a decent enough bead on his meta to comfortably make a read on him. | ||
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On May 14 2014 19:27 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: I'm gonna ride the cav lynch out. I think its highly likely he's still scum lol. k. | ||
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This game is gonna be great. | ||
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Kush is scum. I base these things off of absolutely nothing. Saev me pls. | ||
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On May 15 2014 02:30 Holyflare wrote: no, in glory he was under the same pressure but he defended himself but also pointed out inconsistencies. This game at the start he shouldn't have been under pressure because one of the votes was a joke vote but his only read was me! he then came out with logic for more reads based on a lot of information he had when he said he had no reads I don't think I was voted a single time in Glory. | ||
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On May 15 2014 03:29 kushm4sta wrote: orange is thread views per minute. blue is post count. Only thing the graph is telling me is that there hasn't been significant lurking. Wait. So do you know if Judge has been looking at the thread or not? | ||
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On May 15 2014 02:10 Holyflare wrote: why do I have to convince you? do you think i'm town or something???? my read on cav is that in the past (two or three?) games or whatever that i've played with him he's stated that he gets mislynched day 1 a lot and then got straight into scum hunting. This game he spent the entire start of the game complaining that he was going to get lynched but not drawing conclusions from it like i assumed he would have if he was town "i am town and these people are pushing a mislynch they must be pushing an agenda" should have been his thought process as town. Not to mention blueyd or w/e's reason for voting cav was because he scum claimed which was the same as my initial reason and he thought that was a joke so really no pressure should have been on him at all really then there's the fact that he had no reads apart from me being town which after last game i would never ever ever expect so quickly from him, he gave reasons for it but those reasons didn't make sense because half of his reasoning was from something i did at lylo and this was the very very very start of day 1, the rest of his reasons were because i was joking around and buddying which is what i do in pretty much most of my games There are several issues I have with your line of thinking. A) The issue isn't that you buddy people or not. It's that buddying becomes a part of the agenda you push throughout the game if you're scum, and which you have no compunction to do so if you're town. I have yet to see you buddy anyone this game. You've done some funny shit, but it was clearly posted for the sake of being funny rather than trying to pocket people's votes later on. Case in point, your giant posts and almost everything after the opening have been geared towards finding scum and nothing else. B) I already offered to give you more quotes, but you just turned around and said, "yeah these quotes suck." Wtf? C) I am pushing Judge as my lynch of choice. Why can you not see this? Obviously there aren't 4 mafia in this game, so some of those votes have to be town at the very least. | ||
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On May 14 2014 19:44 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: Though I will say I think its a good possibility that judge is mafia jumping on the wagon Serious question: do you believe that Judge and I are both scum? Why? What makes you think that Judge would so willingly bus me on day 1 with such poor reasoning? Do you think mafia killing one of their own on day 1 is a good strategy? I was under the impression that it would be hard to see Judge and me as a team, but maybe I'm biased. | ||
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On May 15 2014 03:52 Holyflare wrote: well really it's just the meta thing in that case, it's super weird and i wouldn't expect that from anyone so early This is the only part of your case that I can understand from a logical perspective. I still think my read on you is solid and I probably won't change it any time soon. Here, let's change the subject a bit: if I wasn't a viable lynch, who else would you lynch? What other scumreads do you have at this time? | ||
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Why is he scummy now? | ||
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On May 15 2014 04:36 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: No, I've read them, and I've found zero honest attempts to, y'know, find scum. I guess voting you doesn't count, just gonna overlook that instead of defending yourself. Ok. | ||
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I actually don't like fuba at all and I think he could/should be lynched as well. I still don't like his opening at all. Kush actually has a point by saying that he hasn't done anything because I kinda forgot about him up until he brought that up. I disagree on his points about Blue though. I still have Blue as town. | ||
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And I'm not sure I want to lynch Vivax. I think, if we don't kill Judge, we lynch fuba or DS. I don't really want kush at all, if I ever really did in the first place. | ||
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Doesn't anyone have an issue with this lynch? Because they really, really should. | ||
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Go back and answer my question. | ||
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On May 15 2014 06:39 kushm4sta wrote: town and town How is it that both lynches are town to you and you don't do anything to fix that? | ||
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##Vote: fuba I'm also gonna warn you guys (again) that I won't be around for the flips. | ||
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He's far and away more proactive and his filter generally looks like you're staring directly into the sun when he's scum. | ||
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I'm not going to be around for the flips so I'd rather not have to worry about you while I'm gone. If you townread me, at the very least unvote so I don't have to worry about getting lynched anymore. Seriously, who throws down placeholder votes? Wtf? | ||
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On May 15 2014 07:12 Holyflare wrote: Explain how this read changed My read didn't change. I either want him to unvote me and start basing his reads off of real shit or I want him to die. | ||
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On May 15 2014 03:46 Cavalinho wrote: Serious question: do you believe that Judge and I are both scum? Why? What makes you think that Judge would so willingly bus me on day 1 with such poor reasoning? Do you think mafia killing one of their own on day 1 is a good strategy? I was under the impression that it would be hard to see Judge and me as a team, but maybe I'm biased. DS, answer the question. | ||
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On May 15 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote: um... that's exactly what i'm saying..........? you called him most likely town and then you want to kill him, why did it change? It didn't change. I still think he's town. At this point I'm considering him a policy lynch because he's being incredibly obtuse for no goddamn reason. He's ignoring my questions, he's trying to lynch me, and he's wasting the town's time by ignoring the goings-on of the thread and pushing dumb garbage. And I don't even like policy lynches. | ||
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On May 15 2014 07:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: i took back my thoughts on judge that was my mistake So you think Judge is town but you think I'm mafia. Let me get this straight. Judge makes posts that clearly aren't congruent with the gameplay thus far, and he's town. I make good posts, and I'm mafia. What in the actual fuck. | ||
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On May 15 2014 07:29 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: i'm not being obtuse by thinking your arguments don't cover your behavior enough for me to remove my vote. What fucking behavior? What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
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On May 15 2014 07:35 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: i don't like them i'm just saying they don't come off as scum trying to falsify reason and cav let me explain, in the time since i last explined why i'm voting you you've changed your vote twice, both to people who were having wagons formed on them at the time and your vote on fuba bothers me the most becase in the time you went from to you didn't even mention fuba. not once you're coming across as trying desperately to swap the votes to someone else to cover your own ass and i don't like it at all Yes I did. Read my filter. Holy shit, if you and Judge are both town then we are all going to eat shit this game. Rofl, this is so dumb. | ||
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On May 15 2014 07:40 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: i have, you never gave a single reason why you think fuba is mafia in the first place and i'd highly encourage everyone to go through cav's filter and check it out Rofl. Idiot. Just for anyone else that gives a shit, this is probably going to be my last post before the flips. Killing me would be a bad idea. Just fyi. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Judge And I still think it's bullshit we're letting fuba slide for inactivity. | ||
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He said he was testing a revolutionary new scumhunting tactic in pregame. He's probably town. | ||
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On May 15 2014 11:25 Holyflare wrote: huh? DS townread kush based on something he said in pregame. | ||
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On May 15 2014 11:33 Holyflare wrote: like ...... i don't think its ds it's judge or vivax No it totes is shut up. | ||
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On May 15 2014 11:36 thrawn2112 wrote: see cav i told you u werent getting lynched The amount of effort that I had to put into not getting lynched was borderline retarded. | ||
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On May 15 2014 11:40 Holyflare wrote: if you didn't yell about being lynched all day and instead just scum hunted it would have been much easier  I'll stop yelling when I stop getting lynched for bad reasons. (and also I totally scumhunted you shut up) | ||
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I'm probably fine. | ||
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On May 15 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote: expected answers are usually "probably" "hopefully" "i think so" , "Yeh he'll flip scum" is an absolute. but it doesn't really matter right now i dunno why we're still talking about it :o Because tomorrow's lynch targets are all afk/not posting/have no thread presence and I'm bored. | ||
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On May 15 2014 12:33 thrawn2112 wrote: i used to play fighting games competitively. lots more fun than the sc2 scene imo, because you actually get travel and compete as much as you want, regardless of your skill level. Whoa. Is this actually a thing? | ||
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I gotta get in on this some time. | ||
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On May 15 2014 12:36 thrawn2112 wrote: one time I saw a first to 15 money match in mvc2 down in dallas. it was a dallas player vs some guy from vegas, and each side threw in $23,000. that's not even counting all the side betting WOW. So...Is it like that for Street Fighter? Because that was the game I was thinking of picking up soon once my job starts paying off. After other tourney fees, of course. | ||
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I've never really tried to play arcade-y fighting games. | ||
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Ok let's go find the mafia. It's Vivax. Done. Bye. | ||
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Remember that time I wanted my night 1 cop check? | ||
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I thought I'd have to worry about people believing me but since slam stepped in... I'm blue and I can't claim my role directly. | ||
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Almost got me there. >.> | ||
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##Vote DS I have an opportunity here and I won't let it slip away. | ||
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I am 100% okay with this and I don't even care if it's wrong. | ||
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You think that. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote BH | ||
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On May 16 2014 15:08 Holyflare wrote: Well he's not really from here and everywhere has different metas and what you were doing was pretty scummy :p You were the only TL player to think that though. >.> | ||
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On May 16 2014 15:09 Holyflare wrote: He at least had reasons to be voting you why weren't you mad at judge? :p I am mad at Judge. I'm just more mad at DS because he was deliberately misreading everything I was saying. Judge was only wrong once. | ||
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On May 16 2014 15:11 thrawn2112 wrote: yeah i always thought cav seemed townie Thrawn we are bros. Don't ever leave me. | ||
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I've got training on Saturday but otherwise it's just more job hunting and video games. | ||
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Go ahead and make reads and junk. | ||
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Thanks for making me look like a doofus again, HF. | ||
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I've got a funny video but idk if you even wanna watch it. Also, just to stay on topic, tell us why Judge is scum. | ||
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