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On May 29 2014 05:51 mderg wrote: ##vote: ritoky I don´t really agree with his cell order but I´m more sure about him being town than batsnacks. The vote is most likely going to be between these two. So I´m voting for my stronger townread. so what order would you like? | ||
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Can you explain this then? You want to start with group A because I presume you have a read on ritoky and it would be easy to solve so that would be a +point but then you jump into wanting 2 of the lurker groups to go next? How do you have such a strong read on D/E? I realise your argument for your own cell will be "because i'm in it so it's easy" but what about everyone else? You're then putting the 2 groups with the least amount of information at the front of the line when we literally have no idea what is going on in them? | ||
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Why has ritoky kept his poofter town read when he has posted NOTHING for a long time but ritoky has removed bunnies who has posted more often in the past 12 pages? It doesn't add up, his reads are totally suspicious. | ||
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On May 29 2014 06:05 ritoky wrote: Well in my mind, there exist two worlds as of now: the world where MZ and poofter are mafia together and they are so deep in my pockets that it is unbelievable, or the world where Odin is mafia. As you can tell from my reads, I am living in world 2. So if Odin is mafia, his strategy to try and break into the group would be to target me or MZ, and he chose me so far. IF mderg is mafia with Odin, he could very easily helped push that agenda or it was a very clever scheme to distance himself from Odin. I just don't really see them being mafia together in my mind, and as of now Odin is 90% mafia in my mind. Why have I dropped on bunnies? Well I was asleep when she posted the thing I really didn't like, which was he cell order. The thing I least like about it is that she places her cell 3rd. I just don't get the argument behind it. I am on board with batsnacks about the mayor putting his cell 1st. I could also come to understand that if everyone believes the mayor is 100% town and someone else in their cell is 90% town, then you could put that group last and have "confirmed" towns for the duration of the game. That said, it is not what George Washington has decreed. I also don't like he placement of D or B. I think putting D 2nd makes me skeptical as hell and I don't like her justification for it. I think it might be indicative of belief that it is an easy ML group. I also don't like cell B last, because I think it will be a very clear town win. So odin is mafia and universal town read ritoky and mz are in his group. Who does mafia odin try and target? Universal town read ritoky or could be suspicious mz? Why have you jumped to the totally opposite conclusion of what any mafia trying to push a mislynch would do? Associative cases should also never be used here or in mafia games in general, just because 2 people are doing similar things does not mean they share the same alignment. | ||
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On May 29 2014 06:09 mderg wrote: A should be pretty clear. D because I´m having a scumread on tamburini. E because I´m pretty sure bunnies is town, I´m also town so it only leaves layabout. B and C are the cells I´m most unsure about. As a side note: why didn´t you attack bunnies for her suggested cell orders? The first 3 cells would be the same. So why are my first 3 cells pointed out and hers weren´t? because i town read bunnies for other things and it was a wall of text that i cba to talk through but she posted her thoughts about her own opinion of cell order and then voted ritoky which i think is a townier thing to do | ||
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On May 29 2014 06:12 ritoky wrote: Sorry, I don't really understand this post. I guess it's cuz I speak amerikan. Let's say you are mafia and someone in your cell is getting a town read from everyone. You come into the thread and realise this and you're mafia so you need a mislynch. Who do you target to try and push that mislynch and get a point in favour of your side? Do you target universal town read or the person who isn't universal town read? | ||
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On May 29 2014 06:14 ShiaoPi wrote: HF for all what it is worth it is just WIFOM. it's really just not wifom | ||
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On May 29 2014 06:15 ShiaoPi wrote: it is. you are looking at it from the perspective of how you would play scum. Does not necessarily mean it is optimal or anything or how another player will go at it. I have played scum enough times to get into the mindset of anyone that plays scum. He's never played mafia afaik (from the database) so this would be his FIRST time playing scum. First time scum are super nervous about doing anything out of the ordinary, they fit into trends, they will follow people, they won't speak their mind and they won't go against the grain of the town to speak up on something that no many people agree with. His agenda is to win a point, going after someone with pretty much town reads from 100% of people is not what a first time mafia would do. | ||
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i like this odin post, i'm town reading him right now for it | ||
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On May 29 2014 06:27 ritoky wrote: So let's just play your scenario. You think that if I was mafia I would be "super nervous about doing anything our of the ordinary", "try to fit into trends", and "follow people"; on the grounds that it is my first time as scum in TL mafia. So how does pushing for mayor the hardest out of anyone, being the first to post the logic behind my cell order, and making big flashy posts that have caused a lot of people to sheep me; line up with those characteristics? originally i thought you'd be mafia because your reads don't add up at all but you actually explained your stuff and it made sense in your way, even if it's really wrong and yes your mayor post was an exact copy of mine so you were technically following a trend -.- either way, i think mz is the scum in your group | ||
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On May 29 2014 06:33 layabout wrote: my first scum game was one of my most active and confident games i have played, you are tlaking out of your arse why would a townie want their cell to go first? Mafia wanting to go first i get but town.... yes, that's another way to play when it screams out that you have too much information -.- does odin look like either of those? i have no idea what you're talking about for the last sentence | ||
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On May 29 2014 06:39 ritoky wrote: @HF could you explain your Meapak read? other than he's done nothing and I like odin's inquisitive posting? no | ||
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if you are only going to repeatedly say that I am scum in our cell but never bother to contribute to anything else in the entire game I think our cell will be very self evident after all  | ||
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On May 29 2014 06:54 marvellosity wrote: Deadline coming up, when it is reached please stop posting, except the mayor who should post the Cell Order once the mayor post has gone up, then I'll post again | ||
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