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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 30 2014 04:47 GMT
#981
Holyflare

below is a quote of his mayoral platform:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 28 2014 07:01 Holyflare wrote:
[image loading]

VOTE HOLYFLARE FOR MAYOR




  • Do you like winning games?
  • Do you want someone in power who is charming, friendly and a sexy beast?
  • Do you want a free and easy point in towns favour when it comes to winning my cell?
  • Do you want someone that will listen to the people when it comes to deciding the lynch order?
  • Do you want a romantic walk on the beach anytime you and me are together and a beach is nearby?


If you answered yes to any of those questions then I am the man for you. If you click my profile you will see that I have an enormous amount of wins in a row. This is purely because of the fact that i'm good. If I'm mafia i'll be bussing and you should be getting free points regardless. I love to bus and this setup is majorly favoured for that. If I'm town I'll be right anyway so what have you got to lose? It's win/win for everybody! Everybody but scum that is. We hate those scum.

Not only that but I've already crumbed my role in this post. Is it not obvious? I'm green. Green is the colour of town. I am town. You should love to follow someone who is good and is town. So, naturally, you should follow me. Follow me to victory that is. Who likes winning? I do!

In a recent survey of everyone on this planet, people had the following things to say about my mafia abilities:

[image loading]

Do you SEE THAT? I'm a team-player, a proactive problem-solver! Most importantly, I am hard. I am so very aroused at the mere idea of winning that it's simply the only thing I can do. Will you join me? Will you, too, feel this hard?


A vote for me is a vote for winning.


##Vote Holyflare


at a glance, it looks really nice and well put together so it makes you think that he cares about the position and the fact that hes trying to solve the game. the reality of it is that theres no content at all in this post, or almost any of the posts that follow:

What is time? Time is just an arbitrary parameter by which many people live their lives. I transcend time. What more could you ask for in a mayor than someone who transcends the paramater by which humanity lives? I am no human. I am Holyflare. I am your next mayor.


Here's the thing. As your future mayor I know what people want. People want to be listened to, to be acknowledged. As a man elected by the people I am a servant of the people. I will follow the whim of the majority for that is the honourable leader that I am.


Fail to plan, plan to fail. That's the motto most live by. I am not most. I foresee that a pre-emptive plan will be useless in a game such as this. While I am your future mayor, I am not omniscient!

It is with this in mind that we play out the day like any other, we make reads and collect data. TOGETHER we shall bring peace to this mafia ridden town and recover from the travesty of Cell 1.0. This is a democracy. I am just a pretty face for the people.


obviously he wants the position, but the underlying mindset is that he wants it without giving the town anything in return. he eventually gave up running for mayor when ritoky started rolling around the thread and tryharding, and trying to solve the game on day 1 is generally a town trait.

eventually, holyflare gives us something:

I see that you will be a thorn in my election. That being said, I do not mind your aprehension, it is justified! However, I stake my reputation on this game, I will not make this another loss like last time! I will divulge to you the secrets of this game.

There are several approaches you can take:

A) The first lynches will be the ones you think are fairly obvious and will net town a few points.
B) The first 1 or 2 lynches will be coinflippy as you get rid of useless points of contention.

I suggest going with A) with the caveat that you let the talkers stay in the game to figure it out and not leave the weakest people till last.


nothing useful here. just a bunch of useless, generic advice that makes people think youre interested in the town agenda. its really easy to speculate on setup while looking town because it makes people think youre doing stuff. cell is still new so people dont know what to do, so its really easy to throw out cell layout advice and look like youre contributing.

later on he wound up dropping his candidacy because he wasnt "really" running for mayor.

Because i "ran" for mayor lol?

Have you even read the people in my group? :pppp


what? what does that even mean? how does that even coincide with his earlier post, where he posted his own artwork and went and bbcoded everything? the reality of it is that he realized someone was running for office based on content and he couldnt keep up with that so he dropped out of the running.

bunnies, the mayor is useless tbh, if a towny gets it that's cool and he follows the consensus and makes a good order! if a scum gets it we get a lot of information based on the new order they proposed and what they were saying before they get mayor!


obviously it was important enough for you to want to make a giant, well-written albeit empty post about it.

then theres the fact that hes trying to push an agenda of buddying throughout his game, as evidenced here:

hahaha odin is so cute <3


Dick move analysis suggests everyone that was around at the start of the game is very likely town. GG scum!


This is not true. It's a conspiracy to subdue the women, we put genders on our voting forms for "statistical benefit" but the real secret is that we just throw the womens votes in the bin.

True freedom.


http://imgur.com/kdgDGNR

get added to my list, stop being poopy people!


(bonus points here because hes running his platformless mayoral campaign as well)

Simply because I do not care to mess with such trivialities as lynch orders when I could be discovering who is mafia! I will listen to what everyone else thinks and we'll make an informed decision based on what everyone has posted.

I am always at maximum hardness which is why I always win.


after rereading a bunch of holyflare's games, the common theme between his scum games is that he pushes an agenda of buddying people and winning votes rather than trying to solve the game. the brevity of his filter looks good from a town point of view, but the reality of it is that hes pushing his agenda under the veneer of being the "big brother" of the thread.

then there are his interactions with cell D:

Cell d is literally the shittest group ever in the history of shit cell groups and i said it would be that way and ritoky still ignored it to put an easy free point group at the end.


tbh, i can see where he is coming from here, because none of us have done anything and we sho-

...wait:

Yay sloosh stepped up! Now we can actually kill smurf or tambo (smurf smurf smurf, probs tambo)


wat. how is this consistent with his views of a shitty cell D? sloosh does a thing and its fine, but apparently cell d is still a shit group because he doesnt like it apparently.

i dont draw conclusions between unflipped players, but that doesnt really erase the fact that something happened here in terms of how holyflare's demeanor towards cell d, especially when he reacts to my initial (content-loaded) posts earlier in the thread:

Well you're not much better. The only contribution after saying you're going to look much more towny is pointing out things that have already been said about your group which contains 2 lurkers. Nothing about the 3 lynches ahead of it and especially nothing about the lynch that is going on today.


OWS posted a case so that means that he doesnt look good. sloosh posts a (shit)case and he "steps up?" wut? this doesnt really make sense when he wants people to do things in their cells only to try to discredit them and the lack of interest in gathering more information in the thread doesnt make sense from a town point of view.

instead, he attempts to throw doubt on someone in a mostly inactive cell before someone else "steps up" with information that doesn't really make sense and then townreads them for it. the townread itself was horrifically inaccurate because misinformation (despite the fact that mz is actually probably mafia) isnt good for the thread because people will just poke holes in terrible cases, or end up following said terrible cases to mislynches.

then there's his reaction to said townread:

Show nested quote +
Why didn't you town read me. QQ.


Boo hoo?


this statement does not indicate trying to explain a poor read. its a justification of a rather poor read by trying to play it off as a joke. HF actually has no idea how to react to this accusation but tries to play it off anyway. its an indication that he knows more than he actually should.

and then theres the entire thirteenth page of his filter which is basically just a load of active lurking to boost his postcount. not good. not necessary. not town.

lynch holyflare when his cell rolls around. kthx.
Retired.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 30 2014 04:48 GMT
#982
On May 30 2014 13:30 Holyflare wrote:
Find me the people other than ritoky that aren't scum reading mz with a day till lynch.


You gonna make me major filter dive? Damn hf.


Hmmm

Tamburini
MZ himself
Mderg ( this post is super weird imo: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449768-cell-mini-mafia-ii?page=43#857 )
Palmer voted odin, so there's that.
Robik hasnt said anything about MZ
Obi is focusing on you.


So those are the ones i have.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 04:56 GMT
#983
Jesus that case is terrible. I told you not to waste your time. My mayor "campaign" only started because i got here at 10 and the game started at 11 so i just pissed about making a mayor post, you can even see me posting at 10. If people voted me because i know how the game mechanics worked, that would be cool. I really didn't care as you can see from the massive amount of trolling contained within. Regardless of if sloosh has posted one case that you have to agree with because it's accurate still doesn't mean that your cell isn't the shittiest cell there is. He has one case to go off of, you have no content and tambo is still talking about rng.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 04:59 GMT
#984
I still hope you are joking about your "content full" case earlier.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 30 2014 05:00 GMT
#985
Okay so im off to bed. Ill be around tomorrow for the lynch. Im thinking between mz and ritoky tbh. But ill give it another look after all 3 post again. Night guys!
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 05:01 GMT
#986
On May 30 2014 13:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 13:30 Holyflare wrote:
Find me the people other than ritoky that aren't scum reading mz with a day till lynch.


You gonna make me major filter dive? Damn hf.


Hmmm

Tamburini
MZ himself
Mderg ( this post is super weird imo: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449768-cell-mini-mafia-ii?page=43#857 )
Palmer voted odin, so there's that.
Robik hasnt said anything about MZ
Obi is focusing on you.


So those are the ones i have.


This is most likely a rather accurate list of mafia.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 30 2014 05:02 GMT
#987
On May 30 2014 14:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 13:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 30 2014 13:30 Holyflare wrote:
Find me the people other than ritoky that aren't scum reading mz with a day till lynch.


You gonna make me major filter dive? Damn hf.


Hmmm

Tamburini
MZ himself
Mderg ( this post is super weird imo: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449768-cell-mini-mafia-ii?page=43#857 )
Palmer voted odin, so there's that.
Robik hasnt said anything about MZ
Obi is focusing on you.


So those are the ones i have.


This is most likely a rather accurate list of mafia.


Lmao. Arent a few in the same cell though?

(Too lazy to actually look it up right now. Its midnight, so tiiirreeddd)
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 05:03 GMT
#988
They are all in different cells
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 05:09 GMT
#989
Apart from mderg and obi and obi at least just contributed something.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 05:09 GMT
#990
Tambo and obi*
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 05:28 GMT
#991
I've come to the conclusion that obi is

A) someone new/played very little with me
B) most likely played in golden sun or yuma
C) initial reaction was steveling but not so sure now


WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 30 2014 05:42 GMT
#992
Yeah that case is actually pretty turbs.
Stuff like this for example:
this statement does not indicate trying to explain a poor read. its a justification of a rather poor read by trying to play it off as a joke. HF actually has no idea how to react to this accusation but tries to play it off anyway. its an indication that he knows more than he actually should.


And this:

tbh, i can see where he is coming from here, because none of us have done anything and we sho-

...wait:
Show nested quote +

Yay sloosh stepped up! Now we can actually kill smurf or tambo (smurf smurf smurf, probs tambo)



wat. how is this consistent with his views of a shitty cell D? sloosh does a thing and its fine, but apparently cell d is still a shit group because he doesnt like it apparently.

Just really looks like stretching. Like that second quote---how is that inconsistent at all?

I dunno I want to be convinced of HF scum as much as the next person but bleargh.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 05:48 GMT
#993
Just admit your inner feelings that you think I'm town and roll with it because I am.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 05:51 GMT
#994
Lowe [1973] is a fucking retarded example of the failure of law btw, google it.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
May 30 2014 05:58 GMT
#995
Ok firstly, sorry for earlier guys. I was rather ticked off for RL issues and I took it out on this thread.
So I apologize.

Any post that people are having trouble understanding, feel free to ask me and I will clarify.
I'll be around for a while tonight so I'll be in and out of thread for the next few hours~
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 05:59 GMT
#996
Well this is awkward, I'm just about to go to bed
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 30 2014 06:00 GMT
#997
On May 30 2014 14:48 Holyflare wrote:
Just admit your inner feelings that you think I'm town and roll with it because I am.



From Cultured:
On March 01 2014 07:35 Holyflare wrote:
kinda wanna be set freeeeeeeeee, confirmed town is boring :D

On March 01 2014 09:04 Holyflare wrote:
anyway, geript+me+vivax+wave with dem town hugs <3 <3 (maybe gumshoe) let's gogogogo

As town i look towny straight away. Just like this game. Hence when I see you writing a case on why I should die everyone can tell you it's a waste of your time because if you are town then you should be finding the last guy, not talking about random scenarios.


Just for one game's example.

In conclusion, stfu kindly sir.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 06:00 GMT
#998
Odin, pledge to me your allegiance. Swear to me that you are town then tell me who to lynch.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 30 2014 06:00 GMT
#999
On May 30 2014 14:58 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Ok firstly, sorry for earlier guys. I was rather ticked off for RL issues and I took it out on this thread.
So I apologize.

Any post that people are having trouble understanding, feel free to ask me and I will clarify.
I'll be around for a while tonight so I'll be in and out of thread for the next few hours~

Clarify your thoughts on the entirety of your cell.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 30 2014 06:01 GMT
#1000
On May 30 2014 15:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 14:48 Holyflare wrote:
Just admit your inner feelings that you think I'm town and roll with it because I am.



From Cultured:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 07:35 Holyflare wrote:
kinda wanna be set freeeeeeeeee, confirmed town is boring :D

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2014 09:04 Holyflare wrote:
anyway, geript+me+vivax+wave with dem town hugs <3 <3 (maybe gumshoe) let's gogogogo

Show nested quote +
As town i look towny straight away. Just like this game. Hence when I see you writing a case on why I should die everyone can tell you it's a waste of your time because if you are town then you should be finding the last guy, not talking about random scenarios.


Just for one game's example.

In conclusion, stfu kindly sir.


Well that's true but i was doing all that to survive to lylo. :p here it's just straight forward mostly afk mafia.
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