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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:37 layabout wrote: i brought it up when i got here and voted for the other guy If that was bringing it up, that is the lamest most unproductive way to bring it up. One post, and you didn't even push on it. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:13 layabout wrote: this is bs i wanted to go fourth if you care about the game why would you put yourself 1st???? The reason you would want to go first is that if you know you're town and everyone reads you as town even if we were to lynch wrong the other mafia would be very obvious. Having definite information is good for town. If we lynched into say D right now I would have no clue who to go on Obi/tambo seems scummy Sloosh was at least trying but even then hes not oozing town so say we lynched either obi/tambo if we didn't get a hit then I would be unsure who the real mafia was. Leaving the town with more certainty even if wrong is a good thing and having town reads outside of it you feel confident in helps with that. Why did you want to go fourth thats a very interesting thing to be upset about? | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:17 WaveofShadow wrote: MZ you'd better get back here and make me feel better about leaving those shitter groups till the end. You too poofter. We have 3 days to solve this game bro. You and me. About to post a reads list but my question to you. what do you think of Odin's entrance to the thread? Its kinda nice we got no info from thrawn normally replacements are a hard read but with basically nothing on thrawn we can read odin as a lurker who finally spoke up. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:17 WaveofShadow wrote: MZ you'd better get back here and make me feel better about leaving those shitter groups till the end. You too poofter. We have 3 days to solve this game bro. You and me. you better start talking more bro! | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Poofter I'll answer you when I can. I think by the way I'm fine with the election results and have a better read on ritoky for it. I highly doubt that he wouldn't have gotten any pressure from his scum team to try and shift things around at least a little bit or at the very least change some reads or reasoning in the regards during the day, and I don't believe that the order he has chosen is completely in their favour no matter what. Really want MZ to come back now because the longer he takes and the less he does the more I worry. And I did have a strong read. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
Cell A ritoky - I initially voted him for the lawls felt very Colbert Report and there was a bunch of people that hadn't spoke. Then he came out with a big reads post talking about where he stood and had good solid reasoning for it. He seemed to be trying to solve the game and I liked his plan maybe not exactly what I would do but close. I'd have run myself but knew I would be out for 12-14 of the 24 hours. I think he can keep the freedom stuff I think its funny and it seems to piss enough people off to generate some bs discussion that mafia can cling to and be more obvious they want to talk about anything except the game. MZ I like that his reads aligned with mine early. He seemed to be game solving early he has been gone as of late but so was I so pot kettle situation. He did buddy up it seemed to ritoky but it didn't give me much pause until Odin came to the thread. Honestly had this cell locked until Odin spoke. OdinI think HF (i think it was him) brought up the point that his reaction wasn't to go on MZ but to go on ritoky this is interesting because as a scum going into the thread he would know that concensus in the thread at the time was ritoky was getting pretty much town read by everyone and if he knows the alignmetns of his cell he can throw scum on the other guy and have a much easier time of getting him lynched (in this setup you're all about surviving your lynch as mafia) so the thinking is a bit different. I'm actually kinda glad that its not as cut and dry because while if it was and we hit thats awesome but on the off chance we were wrong a split vote gives us more info imo. Cell C HF His mayor post was towny his reasoning of staying around wanting the game to start reads more town to me. I didn't vote for him because while I think he is town he has fooled me before (glory mafia) so him not having power is fine by me. I also feel like his posting has been pressuring people like with mderg on inconsistencies. batsnacks His mayor campaign was okay but I felt like enough scummy people jumped on it that they probably favored his cell order over ritoky. This however makes me think that bat isn't scum because scum wouldn't want to group up so easily and so early they'd be more likely to attach to a town than to one of their own. His post about how he would make the order with the group was convoluted but I felt it came from a townie side of thought. I need to hear more to be fully convinced but he is townier than Shaiopi. Shaiopi I haven't remembered anything he said I was making this list and just read his filter cause I totally forgot he was in the game but none of his posts really stood out to me and this is more PoE than anything. I'd like to hear more Cell B Palmer That thing he said early that I quoted seemed like Deja vu tbh. He also hasn't done much for the thread at all even when he wasn't trying as town in Yoso he spoke up more than this and was trying to solve the game. WoS alos looks entirely more townie. I would like to hear more from Palmer if he is town cause the worst would be losing my own cell since I have the most knowledge on it. Tehpoofter The Hero town Wants and Deserves. WoS He has been getting a lot of the same reads as me and seems to be trying to solve the game. Honestly if he wasn't in my cell I'd have him as green but he has a 50% chance of being mafia so I don't want to get pocketed here. But I would consider him among my top 5 town atm. Cell D Tambo Rng/numbers talk, this seems different from the golden sun game as there he at least had that really large post that to me sounded townie in that he was actively going through his thought process even though he didn't have any concrete conclusions. I'm glad he is in a later group because knowing him from video mafia his late game is better than his early game as town and as mafia he just doesn't step it up late. I know he has been busy but talk to me tambo (I still need your fake claim) ObiWan There can't be 2 mafia in the same cell so this cell is really confusing because he is actively not trying to engage the thread it felt like last night he swung by to "show up" and then left just enough to get by. Sloosh Well there REALLY can't be three scum in a cell and he was trying to work the game out earlier even going to old games for research to me thats more townie than mafia because he did it of his own free will it wasn't like it was asked or hinted at by someone. I didn't much care for his analysis and he seemed to not have read properly but he read so that shows a mindset of wanting to find out who scum is. Cell E layabout Abrasive about odd things in the thread. He doesn't seem to want to push the conversation any further or solve the game he seems to just want to interject. I also don't care for a lot of his reasoning on the batsnacks vote. I wouldn't be surprised if him and Shaiopi both turn out to be mafia voting there. bunnies Bunnies looks to me like every other forum mafia game shes played asking questions and pushing her reads even if I feel like they're different than mine. She definitely is my town pick for this group. mderg I can't make up my mind on mderg atm. I feel like he makes a post and I think "that was pretty town" then the next one "wow scummy" its like there is two types of posts from him but atm layabout has been consistently scummy so he reads more town to me because of that. I need to reread the thing HF brought up when I was reading it I was unsure how I felt about it. I'm glad this group is one of the later ones though. This turned out to be more wall of text than I planned. Again GReen is most town then Blue then Red is scummy obviously. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:55 Tehpoofter wrote: Is anyone around to chat? OR is it post election blues? Im around. Reading through your stuff now. Might have some questions after. Do you agree with the cell order ritoky picked? | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Im around. Reading through your stuff now. Might have some questions after. Do you agree with the cell order ritoky picked? The cell order is okay for me. I'm worried about cell D the most I honestly would have rather been around for that one if we get to that point because I feel like its going to be kind of a crapshoot. If I was making a scum list based not on grouping but just reads I'd have 2 of the 3 as scum and one as fence. I also know tambo is a good player scum or town so if he finds the time to play and he isn't town I can see us losing on that day. Aside from that the order is fine. I think it will be interesting to see after we get some more info from flips where people stood on the order and what it might mean. For example the latish votes from Shaiopi and layabout onto bat's mayor thing his order might be good info. What do you think overall of the order? I know you don't like to be last but you did win last time you were in LYLO and I'm reading you as town so I'm confident with you being there. What are you reading on today's lynch group? Ask away bunnies. Feel free to tell me how awesome my reads are. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:08 Tehpoofter wrote: The cell order is okay for me. I'm worried about cell D the most I honestly would have rather been around for that one if we get to that point because I feel like its going to be kind of a crapshoot. If I was making a scum list based not on grouping but just reads I'd have 2 of the 3 as scum and one as fence. I also know tambo is a good player scum or town so if he finds the time to play and he isn't town I can see us losing on that day. Aside from that the order is fine. I think it will be interesting to see after we get some more info from flips where people stood on the order and what it might mean. For example the latish votes from Shaiopi and layabout onto bat's mayor thing his order might be good info. What do you think overall of the order? I know you don't like to be last but you did win last time you were in LYLO and I'm reading you as town so I'm confident with you being there. What are you reading on today's lynch group? Ask away bunnies. Feel free to tell me how awesome my reads are. Your reads are actually really good, and i don't have much question to them. I like you as town, but i know how good of a mafia player you are. Cell D is actually the one I'm most worried about as well, but with the forum games i have played with tambo, i think i can read him pretty well. The other two however might be a little harder. So if we make it that far (which it would be awesome if three scum got lynched in a row), then with the information I have now, it is going to be super difficult to pinpoint mafia in that cell. Yeah, Being last puts a lot of pressure on me, and i didn't want to mess up. I won last game because of someone's gut read on who scum was. I almost lost, so don't put too much faith into my lylo play. As for today's lynch, i'll go through each of my reads on them. Ritoky- I don't really like his whole "freedom" thing. I felt as if he pocketed many people with that, you and MZ included. I also didn't necessarily like the order. Here's why. I don't understand why, one: you would put a cell with 2 high town reads as last. I mean, in a way I guess it would be okay, but to him, shouldn't it seem like an easy town win there? Then he also goes as far to say as my cell and cell d are the least contributing and hard to read, yet he had 2 town reads in my cell, so i am a little iffy here. Other than that, ritoky has been contributing, posting his reads and explanation, and i like him for it. But im still a little suspicious. MZ- he is the one im most suspicious on for his immediate buddying of ritoky. He says he has a good town read on ritoky, which I commend him for going with his gut, but I'm suspicious of this. Also, MZ and Ritoky both tr each other, and with thrawn not talking, this put immediate suspicion on odin for when he subbed in. I feel like one of MZ or ritoky (more leaning towards MZ) could be using to get a mislynch on odin, if odin is town. Odin- I like odin's posting. He has been questioning and seems to be tying to figure out the game. I believe, as stated before, with thrawns lack of posting, odin has a lot to live up to, and i feel this (being the immediate suspicion placed on him because of thrawns lack of posting) might be his downfall if he is town. So for me it would be between MZ/Odin as well. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 29 2014 07:57 Tehpoofter wrote: About to post a reads list but my question to you. what do you think of Odin's entrance to the thread? Its kinda nice we got no info from thrawn normally replacements are a hard read but with basically nothing on thrawn we can read odin as a lurker who finally spoke up. How is Odin a lurker exactly? Not sure exactly what you mean. Read his posts...I dunno pretty impressive scum entrance if so. Group A actually gonna be hard. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
@Odin can you explain to me in this post: + Show Spoiler + On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote: I don't really like Rit's push for mayor. The whole way he words things seems flashy and contrived. I have to really look at the motivation for it but I like what Bat said tbh. If cell A goes first, scum get a easy ride on day1. Like everyone already knows I'm the lynch target in cell A. Now assuming Rit is not scum, why would he push so hard for his own cell to go first when one of his members hasn't even posted? That's a big bet to take if your town. You're literally basing your first lynch on a coinflip. So it's pretty obvious Palmar is the scum in B. Holyflare is kind of making me worry too. -Push for mayor super weird -has a ton of filler post -has a few prodding post with not so much follow up Then again I'm going to just admit I have a hard time reading HF. So while I find HF to look odd, he does do this sort of thing all the time as both town/scum. But I don't think C is good group to go today anyway. So we'll have more time to see how it develops. Between mderg/layabout I'm having a hard time. Layabout is living up to his name. A few short filler post and he's gone. mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from -don't want rit's to be mayor -Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor -Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read? Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural. @ MZ - What do you think of Odin's entrance to the game? Why is Shaio PI confirmed scum here? + Show Spoiler + On May 28 2014 09:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: HF ShaioPi is already confirmed scum by the founding fathers, not that I'd expect a limey git like you to understand @ritoky Where do you stand in your cell? I realize you gave reads saying you thought it was Odin as mafia or MZ and me. Can you explain why if MZ is mafia I'm auto mafia? | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 29 2014 09:53 WaveofShadow wrote: How is Odin a lurker exactly? Not sure exactly what you mean. Read his posts...I dunno pretty impressive scum entrance if so. Group A actually gonna be hard. He actually isn't lurking and I agree if he is scum here his entrance was good. What I meant was that Odin doesn't read like a normal replacement because his predecessor never spoke so the read isn't tainted so I can read him like someone who hasn't spoke (aka been lurking) and finally spoke up. Make sense? I agree with you before the entrance from Odin I felt A was a pretty easy group but sense I'm torn on how I will vote. Although generating discussion will be a good thing. What did you think of my reads of the later groups like D/E WoS? (I understand you said you'd be busy so Odin/MZ stuff more important just curious) | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:06 Tehpoofter wrote: @bunnies Can you explain what about the whole freedom thing makes ritoky more mafia? I mean you're one of the people that brings it up but to me its neutral (funny) but neutral. @Odin can you explain to me in this post: + Show Spoiler + On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote: I don't really like Rit's push for mayor. The whole way he words things seems flashy and contrived. I have to really look at the motivation for it but I like what Bat said tbh. If cell A goes first, scum get a easy ride on day1. Like everyone already knows I'm the lynch target in cell A. Now assuming Rit is not scum, why would he push so hard for his own cell to go first when one of his members hasn't even posted? That's a big bet to take if your town. You're literally basing your first lynch on a coinflip. So it's pretty obvious Palmar is the scum in B. Holyflare is kind of making me worry too. -Push for mayor super weird -has a ton of filler post -has a few prodding post with not so much follow up Then again I'm going to just admit I have a hard time reading HF. So while I find HF to look odd, he does do this sort of thing all the time as both town/scum. But I don't think C is good group to go today anyway. So we'll have more time to see how it develops. Between mderg/layabout I'm having a hard time. Layabout is living up to his name. A few short filler post and he's gone. mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from -don't want rit's to be mayor -Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor -Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read? Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural. @ MZ - What do you think of Odin's entrance to the game? Why is Shaio PI confirmed scum here? + Show Spoiler + On May 28 2014 09:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: HF ShaioPi is already confirmed scum by the founding fathers, not that I'd expect a limey git like you to understand @ritoky Where do you stand in your cell? I realize you gave reads saying you thought it was Odin as mafia or MZ and me. Can you explain why if MZ is mafia I'm auto mafia? Im not saying the freedom thing makes him more mafia. I said I felt as if he pocketed some people (specifically people from the US) with the freedom thing. If he is mafia, he can use that to advantage, but it doesnt make him mafia. I found it funny, too, but i am being open to ideas. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:13 Tehpoofter wrote: He actually isn't lurking and I agree if he is scum here his entrance was good. What I meant was that Odin doesn't read like a normal replacement because his predecessor never spoke so the read isn't tainted so I can read him like someone who hasn't spoke (aka been lurking) and finally spoke up. Make sense? I agree with you before the entrance from Odin I felt A was a pretty easy group but sense I'm torn on how I will vote. Although generating discussion will be a good thing. What did you think of my reads of the later groups like D/E WoS? (I understand you said you'd be busy so Odin/MZ stuff more important just curious) Ugh stop posting like this. Reminds me of Ver's game. Do you have a town game on this site that I can see? I could have sworn I looked at a town game of yours back then and found you didn't do the '@' bullshit nearly as much. I actually don't even want to be swayed though I want Palmar to swing. Can I just ignore that you did that stuff and we can focus on Block A? kthx. | ||
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Holyflare
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
sloosh is probably the scum in it though. his filter is basically nothing but setup speculation and useless garbage, basically someone posting enough to seem town without actually doing anything. its a bunch of useless, generic advice made to look like he was doing things, when in reality he was just actively lurking. its pretty clear that he opted out of the discourse without looking like he was doing so. burini's filter really isnt good either. i dont really care about him right now though. burini, post more. my filter isnt much better except it will be at the time of posting this. lol. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 29 2014 10:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: lol my cell sucks. sloosh is probably the scum in it though. his filter is basically nothing but setup speculation and useless garbage, basically someone posting enough to seem town without actually doing anything. its a bunch of useless, generic advice made to look like he was doing things, when in reality he was just actively lurking. its pretty clear that he opted out of the discourse without looking like he was doing so. burini's filter really isnt good either. i dont really care about him right now though. burini, post more. my filter isnt much better except it will be at the time of posting this. lol. Makes sense. K actually though Group A is bugging the shit out of me I want that solved. What are the chances ritoky has the massive cohones to run for mayor simply to exit the game and win his group? MZ I am having way more trouble with now since his lack of posting even though I had mind-meld on him, and Odin doesn't look particularly bad. | ||
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