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On May 29 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 08:55 Tehpoofter wrote:Is anyone around to chat? OR is it post election blues?  Im around. Reading through your stuff now. Might have some questions after. Do you agree with the cell order ritoky picked?
The cell order is okay for me. I'm worried about cell D the most I honestly would have rather been around for that one if we get to that point because I feel like its going to be kind of a crapshoot. If I was making a scum list based not on grouping but just reads I'd have 2 of the 3 as scum and one as fence. I also know tambo is a good player scum or town so if he finds the time to play and he isn't town I can see us losing on that day. Aside from that the order is fine. I think it will be interesting to see after we get some more info from flips where people stood on the order and what it might mean. For example the latish votes from Shaiopi and layabout onto bat's mayor thing his order might be good info.
What do you think overall of the order? I know you don't like to be last but you did win last time you were in LYLO and I'm reading you as town so I'm confident with you being there. What are you reading on today's lynch group?
Ask away bunnies. Feel free to tell me how awesome my reads are.
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@bunnies Can you explain what about the whole freedom thing makes ritoky more mafia? I mean you're one of the people that brings it up but to me its neutral (funny) but neutral.
@Odin can you explain to me in this post: + Show Spoiler +On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote:
I don't really like Rit's push for mayor. The whole way he words things seems flashy and contrived.
I have to really look at the motivation for it but I like what Bat said tbh.
If cell A goes first, scum get a easy ride on day1. Like everyone already knows I'm the lynch target in cell A.
Now assuming Rit is not scum, why would he push so hard for his own cell to go first when one of his members hasn't even posted? That's a big bet to take if your town. You're literally basing your first lynch on a coinflip.
So it's pretty obvious Palmar is the scum in B.
Holyflare is kind of making me worry too.
-Push for mayor super weird
-has a ton of filler post
-has a few prodding post with not so much follow up
Then again I'm going to just admit I have a hard time reading HF. So while I find HF to look odd, he does do this sort of thing all the time as both town/scum. But I don't think C is good group to go today anyway. So we'll have more time to see how it develops.
Between mderg/layabout I'm having a hard time.
Layabout is living up to his name. A few short filler post and he's gone.
mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from
-don't want rit's to be mayor
-Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor
-Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order
You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read?
Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural.
@ MZ - What do you think of Odin's entrance to the game? Why is Shaio PI confirmed scum here? + Show Spoiler +On May 28 2014 09:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 09:39 Holyflare wrote:
man, read shiaopi's filter and tell me that guy isn't either super tunneled 5 minutes into a game or mafia!
i answer all his questions pretty well and often and then he just asks more and more which I still answer and he doesn't comment on any of them and then fecks off calling me mafia for answering questions too slow lol :DDD HF ShaioPi is already confirmed scum by the founding fathers, not that I'd expect a limey git like you to understand
@ritoky Where do you stand in your cell? I realize you gave reads saying you thought it was Odin as mafia or MZ and me. Can you explain why if MZ is mafia I'm auto mafia?
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On May 29 2014 09:53 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 07:57 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 29 2014 07:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
MZ you'd better get back here and make me feel better about leaving those shitter groups till the end.
You too poofter. We have 3 days to solve this game bro. You and me. About to post a reads list but my question to you. what do you think of Odin's entrance to the thread? Its kinda nice we got no info from thrawn normally replacements are a hard read but with basically nothing on thrawn we can read odin as a lurker who finally spoke up. How is Odin a lurker exactly? Not sure exactly what you mean. Read his posts...I dunno pretty impressive scum entrance if so. Group A actually gonna be hard.
He actually isn't lurking and I agree if he is scum here his entrance was good. What I meant was that Odin doesn't read like a normal replacement because his predecessor never spoke so the read isn't tainted so I can read him like someone who hasn't spoke (aka been lurking) and finally spoke up. Make sense? I agree with you before the entrance from Odin I felt A was a pretty easy group but sense I'm torn on how I will vote. Although generating discussion will be a good thing.
What did you think of my reads of the later groups like D/E WoS? (I understand you said you'd be busy so Odin/MZ stuff more important just curious)
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@Shaiopi Can you explain to me what bat has done to "spew town" + Show Spoiler +On May 29 2014 06:28 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 06:19 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2014 06:15 ShiaoPi wrote:
it is. you are looking at it from the perspective of how you would play scum. Does not necessarily mean it is optimal or anything or how another player will go at it. I have played scum enough times to get into the mindset of anyone that plays scum. He's never played mafia afaik (from the database) so this would be his FIRST time playing scum. First time scum are super nervous about doing anything out of the ordinary, they fit into trends, they will follow people, they won't speak their mind and they won't go against the grain of the town to speak up on something that no many people agree with. His agenda is to win a point, going after someone with pretty much town reads from 100% of people is not what a first time mafia would do. would do. See the subjunctive? You cannot know for sure, so I call it wifom. whatever with batsnacks spewing town you are scum in our cell anyway
On May 29 2014 10:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
lol my cell sucks.
sloosh is probably the scum in it though. his filter is basically nothing but setup speculation and useless garbage, basically someone posting enough to seem town without actually doing anything. its a bunch of useless, generic advice made to look like he was doing things, when in reality he was just actively lurking. its pretty clear that he opted out of the discourse without looking like he was doing so.
burini's filter really isnt good either. i dont really care about him right now though. burini, post more.
my filter isnt much better except it will be at the time of posting this. lol. Makes sense. K actually though Group A is bugging the shit out of me I want that solved. What are the chances ritoky has the massive cohones to run for mayor simply to exit the game and win his group? MZ I am having way more trouble with now since his lack of posting even though I had mind-meld on him, and Odin doesn't look particularly bad.
I feel like the whole mayor thing he did wasn't the reason I was reading him town. It was his follow up posting where he gave reads and had solid reasoning behind them and a townie mindset of "need to find scum" not "need to give reads" which is important imo. I agree though MZ PLEASE SPEAK UP
Also @Wos:+ Show Spoiler + On May 29 2014 10:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:13 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 29 2014 09:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 29 2014 07:57 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 29 2014 07:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
MZ you'd better get back here and make me feel better about leaving those shitter groups till the end.
You too poofter. We have 3 days to solve this game bro. You and me. About to post a reads list but my question to you. what do you think of Odin's entrance to the thread? Its kinda nice we got no info from thrawn normally replacements are a hard read but with basically nothing on thrawn we can read odin as a lurker who finally spoke up. How is Odin a lurker exactly? Not sure exactly what you mean. Read his posts...I dunno pretty impressive scum entrance if so. Group A actually gonna be hard. He actually isn't lurking and I agree if he is scum here his entrance was good. What I meant was that Odin doesn't read like a normal replacement because his predecessor never spoke so the read isn't tainted so I can read him like someone who hasn't spoke (aka been lurking) and finally spoke up. Make sense? I agree with you before the entrance from Odin I felt A was a pretty easy group but sense I'm torn on how I will vote. Although generating discussion will be a good thing. What did you think of my reads of the later groups like D/E WoS? (I understand you said you'd be busy so Odin/MZ stuff more important just curious) Ugh stop posting like this. Reminds me of Ver's game. Do you have a town game on this site that I can see? I could have sworn I looked at a town game of yours back then and found you didn't do the '@' bullshit nearly as much. I actually don't even want to be swayed though I want Palmar to swing. Can I just ignore that you did that stuff and we can focus on Block A? kthx. I am gonna keep questioning people and @ symbols are one of the best ways to get someones attention if you dont like it you're going to hate my play always. Glory/Titanic/Dr. Who/Catastrophe are all the most recent town games + day 1 of Glory sun I was town.
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On May 29 2014 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2014 10:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 29 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
i am scum and im gonna take potshots at you 'cause you found me so fast.
i am also a terrorist. geez calm down already someone help this guy is pointing out my scumpartner and i need to figure out how to save him. wat. im actually going to post a big fun case on you in like an hour or two or so.
Any chance you might post a big fun case or anything on the group we actually are lynching between today? I am excited to hear your case though.
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On May 29 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
chainsaw defenses are silly ways of accusing someone of being scum.
associative reads arent good either, especially pre-flip.
you even admit that its dumb and then you push it anyway.
arent you supposed to be good? LOL Are you Robik? You have to be one of the newbies to say something like this.
hahahahaah that would make so much sense.
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On May 29 2014 11:08 layabout wrote:4th because i actually want to play this game but i didn't want to be last cell, tehpoofters town>scum could read High activity>low activity and pretty much all of the colors would be the same If ritoky is town that putting himself first is moronic but if he is mafia it makes total sense. He is cashing in his towncred early on rather than using it to get listened to and then try to help with multiple lynches. He has to tryhard for 72 hours and it seems the majority of people are willing to give him a free pass for "contribution" Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 07:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 29 2014 07:37 layabout wrote:
i brought it up when i got here and voted for the other guy If that was bringing it up, that is the lamest most unproductive way to bring it up. One post, and you didn't even push on it. what was the point? i arrived pretty late rito had 6 or 7 votes and the next closest was a single vote.
The last cell mafia game myself/Ceph/LSB were the 3 least contributing people in the game and we were all mafia. Steveling and Palmer both lurked day 1 as well then picked it up. I agree that most of my list is high activity > low activity but I think this setup is conducive to that type of thinking. So It is a part of how I got my reads. I'm curious what you think of my reads anyone with high contribution you think has been scummy or vice versa the low end of posting but very town? To me that comment just makes me think "shit this dude just called us all out for not posting better make it look like he just did sort by post count find scum" or something.
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I'm off work going to eat and play some Civ 5 I'll be around tonight look for more from group A
If you guys could address some of the points I brought up previously that would be awesome!
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On May 30 2014 12:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 12:44 Holyflare wrote:
damn you found me plz dotn post teh best case ever people will know im mafia no dice. also the scum in cell a is meapak and ill get to that when i get the chance.
If MZ flips red this Obi guy needs to hang. That HF case was lawlzy. WoS brought up good poitns on it which makes my group even easier.
Odin's drunken ramblings seemed townie it reminds me of what rayn did in the last cell game my only issue is how fast he came out of it. Like from drunk to sober typing pretty darn fast.
On May 30 2014 08:10 Palmar wrote:
ok for now I'm gonna do this:
##Vote OdinOfPergo
reason: he calls me mafia for acting anti-town, when he literally just played a game where he called me mafia for playing anti-town and I wasn't mafia. ie: he should know I'm a compulsive asshole and thus not read anything into it.
This is the only post that gives me pause to MZ. Palmer is basically screwed as mafia. HE hasn't contributed dick is like a lock mafia read. So IF he knows MZ is mafia why not pile on and try to gain cred? Maybe because he knows MZ is town. I'm not sure this is enough to make me pull off MZ and even if it was I don't know if Palmer puts in the mafia here or the other town. I'd like some input on this.
HF: + Show Spoiler +On May 30 2014 15:00 Holyflare wrote:
Odin, pledge to me your allegiance. Swear to me that you are town then tell me who to lynch. Somewhere Steveling just popped a blood vessel.
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So ScumPalmer comes into the thread what does he do if he sees his teammate getting voted? He probably votes on him to BW and maybe gain some cred. Him voting someone different is odd to me like he knows its a ML on MZ or something. THen again what Obi said just screams tmi scum to me.
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Robik good to see you're in the game. Who is "Iceland" in your town reads you made?
On May 30 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
People to never lynch:
Robik
Ritoky
Iceland
Although I'm probably not serious about Palmar
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I was going to do some more analysis but I'm falling asleep. I'll be up for the lynch. I'm still leaning MZ but I want to see what HF/bunnies think about what I pointed out with Palmer coming into the thread.
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On May 31 2014 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
People talk about massive bussing on mz. Robik decides it's no longer massive bussing # logic
Get the fuck on mz, the fact it's no longer unanimous should be obvious.
Been at a meeting the Palmer Robik attempt at a counter wagon is cute. MZ Robik Palmer and town wins don't even have to mess with D and E.
##Vote Meapek_Z
I'm glad Odin subbed for thrawn or we probably would have missed here.
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On May 31 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 05:51 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 05:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Did I not words?
I would vote Odin over Ritoky, but if it were between MZ and Ritoky, I would vote Ritoky to save MZ.
Okay what about if it could be any of the three and your vote was the only one that mattered? If it was a regular mafia game with no additional information, I'd vote MZ today.
You know full and we'll the meta in cell mafia is try for ML but bus the obv scum. Your posting activity makes me think you're town but your logic and content makes me think you're scum.
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On May 31 2014 06:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 05:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
And like where the fuck does this fit?
Absolutely not. I think that all of the people in cell A have good things going for them and MZ is probably the scummiest of the lot.
WHat makes MZ the towniest of all of those three that warrants saving him in the first place? There's exactly 1 townie post that MZ has and the rest is 1000000000000% to do with the fact that I know that AT LEAST one mafia is voting for him. AT LEAST! Most likely 2, possibly 3 or even 4. So because you believe it impossible for mafia to ever bus, you immediately think MZ is town. K good to we have some critical thinkers here. Whatever. Stay the course, gentlemen (and lady). MZ DIES THIS DAY
WoS do you consider this a pro busing setup? Also + Show Spoiler + ladies! Tambo is in the game too
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This is like mafia going for 2-0 all day. HF has been contributing the most out of anyone in this game. He clearly is playing to win for town the fact that Palmer is voting for him again just makes me think he is mafia. Mdergs spat he had with HF a couple pages back about how HF was mafia because as mafia he would know his alignment and HF was calling mderg scum was so backwards nad illogical. Both of these players are voting on HF
I'm actually getting a bit uneasy about bunnies after a reread her convo seems more defensive than I've seen her in other games. I think that robik is also playing his town meta pretty hard here. batsnacks to me is the most scummy in the gruop. I have really not read this weekend until just now sorry about that had a busy one :/
##Vote: batsnacks
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oh wtf mderg voted for batsnacks... fuck that
##vote: Iamrobik
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##Vote batsnacks
You think HF is scum but vote the other guy ? no.
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On June 02 2014 06:58 Palmar wrote:
poofter get on HF.
You clearly don't give a shit which one of the others dies. Maybe you're mafia.
But if you're town, HF is the right choice.
I'm not voting my biggest town read casue my biggest scum read tells me to lololol
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On June 02 2014 07:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
That was obv that bat was town. Seriously people.
Not at all. Who was obv mafia then?
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