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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 12 2014 13:58 GMT
#1221
Put a vote down mderg.

protip: it must be HF
I had a good night of sleep.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:02 GMT
#1222
On May 12 2014 22:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 22:52 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:51 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:50 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:44 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 21:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 17:31 mderg wrote:
you´re 100% wrong.
At least one of you and koshi is scum, possibly both of you.

Look at this. Mderg has poofter as scum 24/7. He is buddying me, saying my cases are correct, having the EXACT SAME READS AS ME. EXACT SAME READS AS ME. For the entire game. Mderg had me as town 24/7. With EXACT the same reads as me, he believed last scum was between HF/Oats/Poofter. Then there is heat on him and it looks like he is going to get lynched with HF claiming blue and voting him. What happens? Now that HF goes after him I am suddenly the other scummer? Why not POOFTER?

WHY???

cuz he is scum and slipped.

He knows Poofter will back him up and is now incriminating town HF/Koshi.

Did you really ask why not poofter? Really?
The reasoning is as simple as it can get! To spell it out for you:
Hf voted me, meaning that scum could hammer me at any time. Poofter and Cav were here at the same time, meaning that they would hammer me, if they were both scum. This leads to at least one of them being town. This also means that at least one of you and Hf have to be scum. That can´t be difficult to understand. It´s just based on logic.

Why can't it be HF & Poofter?

It can be Hf & poofter. I never said it couldn´t be hf and poofter. It´s just 99.9% safe to assume that 1 of cav and poofter is town and that 1 of hf and you is scum. That doesn´t mean that you are scum together.

I BOLDED IT IN RED.

You say KOSHI IS SCUM WITH HF.

Since when does "at least 1" mean "both"?

How am I not 100% town?

Counterclaimed named VT
Doc HF
You got Poofter as scum entire game.

How am I not 100% town?

This is all pretty simple: 1 of cav and poofter is town. So either cav who counterclaimed my role is scum or poofter who seemed scummy the whole game is scum. That seems pretty difficult to decide.
And 1 of you and hf is scum. I called hf scum because of OMGUS, his claim actually makes sense now that I had the time to think it through. So it´s more likely you than him, despite me reading you as town beforehand. Also I didn´t read you as town for the most part of the game. You were scummy to me at first and I switched my opinion to leaning town on you.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 12 2014 14:05 GMT
#1223
w.e I am now confirmed town when you flip.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 12 2014 14:06 GMT
#1224
On May 12 2014 23:02 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 22:55 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:52 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:51 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:50 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:44 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 21:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 17:31 mderg wrote:
you´re 100% wrong.
At least one of you and koshi is scum, possibly both of you.

Look at this. Mderg has poofter as scum 24/7. He is buddying me, saying my cases are correct, having the EXACT SAME READS AS ME. EXACT SAME READS AS ME. For the entire game. Mderg had me as town 24/7. With EXACT the same reads as me, he believed last scum was between HF/Oats/Poofter. Then there is heat on him and it looks like he is going to get lynched with HF claiming blue and voting him. What happens? Now that HF goes after him I am suddenly the other scummer? Why not POOFTER?

WHY???

cuz he is scum and slipped.

He knows Poofter will back him up and is now incriminating town HF/Koshi.

Did you really ask why not poofter? Really?
The reasoning is as simple as it can get! To spell it out for you:
Hf voted me, meaning that scum could hammer me at any time. Poofter and Cav were here at the same time, meaning that they would hammer me, if they were both scum. This leads to at least one of them being town. This also means that at least one of you and Hf have to be scum. That can´t be difficult to understand. It´s just based on logic.

Why can't it be HF & Poofter?

It can be Hf & poofter. I never said it couldn´t be hf and poofter. It´s just 99.9% safe to assume that 1 of cav and poofter is town and that 1 of hf and you is scum. That doesn´t mean that you are scum together.

I BOLDED IT IN RED.

You say KOSHI IS SCUM WITH HF.

Since when does "at least 1" mean "both"?

How am I not 100% town?

Counterclaimed named VT
Doc HF
You got Poofter as scum entire game.

How am I not 100% town?

This is all pretty simple: 1 of cav and poofter is town. So either cav who counterclaimed my role is scum or poofter who seemed scummy the whole game is scum. That seems pretty difficult to decide.
And 1 of you and hf is scum. I called hf scum because of OMGUS, his claim actually makes sense now that I had the time to think it through. So it´s more likely you than him, despite me reading you as town beforehand. Also I didn´t read you as town for the most part of the game. You were scummy to me at first and I switched my opinion to leaning town on you.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 12 2014 14:07 GMT
#1225
You voted Steveling over poofter who looked the entire game as scum?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 12 2014 14:07 GMT
#1226
I had a good night of sleep.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:10 GMT
#1227
On May 12 2014 23:07 Koshi wrote:
You voted Steveling over poofter who looked the entire game as scum?

you´re twisting words... it should be 100% clear what i meant to say.
Considering that steve was town poofter´s whole play seemed scummy in retrospect.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:11 GMT
#1228
On May 12 2014 23:05 Koshi wrote:
w.e I am now confirmed town when you flip.

that´s nice when there´s more scum than town alive.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 12 2014 14:24 GMT
#1229
That's all you have to say?
I had a good night of sleep.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:25 GMT
#1230
short summary of our the back and forth between koshi and me: koshi is twisting words and searching for small parts of my posts which are slightly odd. Mixed in are half-truths about the reads I´ve made. Seems townie to me.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 12 2014 14:26 GMT
#1231
Yes very townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:26 GMT
#1232
On May 12 2014 23:24 Koshi wrote:
That's all you have to say?

what do you expect me to say?


Also: that´s all you have to say?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:26 GMT
#1233
On May 12 2014 23:26 Koshi wrote:
Yes very townie.

I´m glad we agree
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 12 2014 16:06 GMT
#1234
BH hosts games with setups that can have 2 named VTs, so my claim isn't necessarily a counterclaim.
Spectaticle
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 12 2014 16:19 GMT
#1235
Where are you in this game cav? You dont agree with me?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 12 2014 16:26 GMT
#1236
You got to believe me man. Today and tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 16:28 GMT
#1237
Cav confirmed town for not hammering me.
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 12 2014 19:24 GMT
#1238
On May 13 2014 01:19 Koshi wrote:
Where are you in this game cav? You dont agree with me?


I'm honestly not sure where I stand on this game right now. My head is telling me to vote with you because mderg's filter is downright shitty when compared to Holyflare's. Mderg's claim doesn't make much sense either, because a powerless blue doesn't really have much to give back to the town if he isn't in the thread, analyzing.

Then on the flip side, I would expect HF to have a really good claim prepared ahead of time. The fact that he's a medic and was the towniest person in the thread for the entire game and was never night killed strikes me as a red flag. Like...his claim doesn't really match with his play at all.

Really wish that scum didn't call me on my night reads, I was really hoping Oats was still gonna be here. =/

Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#1239
@Mderg, who is scum and why?

And I also noticed that mderg swore on his life. Are we gonna put any stock in that?
Spectaticle
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 12 2014 19:53 GMT
#1240
The best way to play medic in a small mini is to be the towniest so that you'll LOOK like you're getting medic saved. They also want to blue hunt because claims end game fuck up the scum, as seen here, and so cant necessarily kill the towny guy over blue snipes.
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