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On May 13 2014 04:36 Cavalinho wrote:
@Mderg, who is scum and why?
And I also noticed that mderg swore on his life. Are we gonna put any stock in that?
Since you are confirmed town, it leaves koshi, hf and poofter. There comes the difficult part and I´m not 100% sure. Right now I´d go with koshi/poofter. Hf´s claim makes sense (even though I said otherwise in the heat of the moment). What´s interesting about koshi/poofter is that koshi had poofter as scum for a long time but interestingly enough he didn´t give any convincing reasons for poofter being scum. So poofter wasn´t actually in real danger to be lynched. It would also be reasonable for koshi to push a poofter lynch after day 2. It would assure that 1 of them looks townie after the lynch even, if the other could die. It just so happened that hf made a case and voted on me, so koshi took the opportunity to jump on it.
If that turns out to be true we´re kinda screwed, though. If poofter comes back before hf comes back, he could just hammer me and it´s over.
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On May 13 2014 04:36 Cavalinho wrote:
@Mderg, who is scum and why?
And I also noticed that mderg swore on his life. Are we gonna put any stock in that?
No, he told me IN THIS GAME that when I said it that it meant nothing whatsoever and he said he hated that post and now he tried to say it IN HIS FAVOUR.
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nice, hf is back. It would be nice of you to unvote me.
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On May 13 2014 04:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 04:36 Cavalinho wrote:
@Mderg, who is scum and why?
And I also noticed that mderg swore on his life. Are we gonna put any stock in that? No, he told me IN THIS GAME that when I said it that it meant nothing whatsoever and he said he hated that post and now he tried to say it IN HIS FAVOUR.
I still think that it means absolutely nothing.
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On May 13 2014 04:24 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 01:19 Koshi wrote:
Where are you in this game cav? You dont agree with me? I'm honestly not sure where I stand on this game right now. My head is telling me to vote with you because mderg's filter is downright shitty when compared to Holyflare's. Mderg's claim doesn't make much sense either, because a powerless blue doesn't really have much to give back to the town if he isn't in the thread, analyzing. Then on the flip side, I would expect HF to have a really good claim prepared ahead of time. The fact that he's a medic and was the towniest person in the thread for the entire game and was never night killed strikes me as a red flag. Like...his claim doesn't really match with his play at all. Really wish that scum didn't call me on my night reads, I was really hoping Oats was still gonna be here. =/
Just look at the interactions between Poofter and Mderg. Look at how Poofter townreads Mderg. Look at how mderg has Poofter as scum entire game, except for when I pushed him and he swapped his reads for a brief second.
Look at how mderg now got me as scum WITH POOFTER(?) suddenly. Even though there are 2 named VT and a medic...
Mderg knows your vote = he dies.
So he puts me as scum with Poofter. So that town HF and town Cav don't vote him.
This is so obvious.
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And I am the most obvious townie this entire game.
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On May 13 2014 05:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 04:24 Cavalinho wrote:On May 13 2014 01:19 Koshi wrote:
Where are you in this game cav? You dont agree with me? I'm honestly not sure where I stand on this game right now. My head is telling me to vote with you because mderg's filter is downright shitty when compared to Holyflare's. Mderg's claim doesn't make much sense either, because a powerless blue doesn't really have much to give back to the town if he isn't in the thread, analyzing. Then on the flip side, I would expect HF to have a really good claim prepared ahead of time. The fact that he's a medic and was the towniest person in the thread for the entire game and was never night killed strikes me as a red flag. Like...his claim doesn't really match with his play at all. Really wish that scum didn't call me on my night reads, I was really hoping Oats was still gonna be here. =/ Just look at the interactions between Poofter and Mderg. Look at how Poofter townreads Mderg. Look at how mderg has Poofter as scum entire game, except for when I pushed him and he swapped his reads for a brief second. Look at how mderg now got me as scum WITH POOFTER(?) suddenly. Even though there are 2 named VT and a medic... Mderg knows your vote = he dies. So he puts me as scum with Poofter. So that town HF and town Cav don't vote him. This is so obvious.
There being 2 named VT´s says what? Cav is 100% confirmed town since he didn´t hammer me, when he had the opportunity.
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Good to see Koshi is back calling me mafia again. Its like a recorder that squaks "poof is scum" every 10 posts so he can contribute. I have some analysis to give and throw out the possibilities.
First I'll ask Koshi a question that probably will explode his brain: Koshi. I'm town, Who is mafia?
brb typing out all the things.
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So here's the breakdown:
Cavalinho + Mderg scum team: Cav had town cred, mderg claimed role, no need for cav to claim a role as mafia team because they would assume there would be blues.
Poofter + Mderg scum team: Possible I admit, mderg not hammered on poofter return which indicates that they are scum together or poofter being hesitant as town.
Koshi + Mderg scum team: Equally possible, moreso I'd say, busses mderg for the credit tomorrow when I inevitably die. Thought koshi was scummy all game.
Every possible scenario hinges on mderg. This is a great lynch.
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I'm doing a long as break down HF. But the only way we lose to this vote is if Cav/Koshi are doing the longest and most dick like slow roll ever. OR the mod made a game complete unfair by giving town 2 named VT and mafia a RB. If thats the case then We already lost because that setup is never balanced in any world ever in existence ever. (I really hope its not that because if it is I'm already fucking salty about it)
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well don't waste your time what i wrote is pretty simple! i don't think you're the mafia but mderg is absolutely the lynch if you are town because he fits in every mafia team there is. If you're mafia.... carry on drawing out the game :D
bh hosts a lot and foolishness normally checks it afaik, i don't think they would make the game unbalanced. If it is this game is actually redundant and yes many strong words will be said by me in post game
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Well you're the one who knows if it is or not HF.... Like if you're really medic the game is fine.
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And I'm getting all my thoughts out there. I'm not going to rush to a decision this shit is lylo. your situation is short but sweet.
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On May 13 2014 06:23 Tehpoofter wrote:
Well you're the one who knows if it is or not HF.... Like if you're really medic the game is fine.
true dat, i was thinking of a world where you and koshi were scum but then i realised after i typed it the game would already be over :D
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spent the entire fricking day second guessing myself and now you've just proved that plans™ work :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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So I'm just saying this but if everyone claimed VT my mafia would be HF/Koshi The claims are realyl fucking me up.
^^If I look at this shit in post game and go "damn I'm an idiot go with your gut" I will be able to at least lay about 80% of the blame on blazinghand for making a game with a RB and no roles which is the stupid thing that ever could happen ever. (I'm going to complain about this more because I have this odd feeling in my gut)
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the best thing to do in lylo is ignore EVERYTHING that happens in lylo and just look at the game itself
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So we have:
Tehpoofter: Vanilla town
Koshi: Vanilla Town Claimed RB N1
Mderg: Named VT
Cav: Named VT Claimed RB N2
HF: Medic
So IF its possible to have 2 roles that have no powers and a RB in a game then as far as I'm concerned we already lost. That would be a bullshit setup and just give town misinformation and mafia a free claim so if thats the case then HF congrats on your victory. Reasoning why HF becomes confirmed under this assumption is because he is the ONLY blue to claim to have a night action. The RB were on Koshi/Cav.... they can't all three be mafia so I'm going to assume that the host didn't make a game with 2 named VT and a RB and say HF is town. If we lose because of this then Blazinghand is a giant dickbag and I won't play his games again.
So Now I have 2 town: Poofter, Medic HF.
So HF votes for MDerg and in the multitude of hours that have passed since this happens neither Koshi or Cav have voted to kill mderg yet. So koshi Cav are confirmed to be on separate alignments. So 1 mafia between Koshi/Cav. This also to me confirms that mderg has to be mafia in either situation. So I will be voting for him shortly but I want to make sure I think it through clearly before doing so.
So Now I have 2 town: Poofter, Medic HF.
1 Mafia: Mderg
1 mafia between: Cav/Koshi.
So I'm going to live in a world where Koshi and me are town in this next part. So for Koshi and me to both be town the mafia team has to be Cav/Mderg who both claim the EXACT SAME ROLE. The only thing giving credence to this theory is that Cav I think might have derp claimed not realizing that Grizzled Veteran was not just the base VT and his partner was claiming a named role. Cav isn't pushing on Mderg for claiming his role he had to be told he was a CC and they aren't screaming at each other that they are mafia. Like if it was me and someone claimed my role I'd have my vote on the other guy and that shit would never leave EVER. Especially if I knew there was a RB in the game and a claimed MEdic. Mderg is actually calling Cav confirmed town (I see this from his view point in that he hasn't hammered him) So why am I not confirmed town Mderg?????????
This world gets like a 30% possibility at this point
The other world is Koshi is the mafia and bussing the balls off mderg for credibility and instead of saying why mderg is mafia more of his posts are throwing scum on me (and not Cav he didn't even entertain that theory) Now granted in his eyes Cav got RB with him so he must assume there is a RB in the game and HF is real and Cav is probably town too so it makes sense from his point of view. I really want to see him answer who is mafia If I'm town because honestly I am town and it would be a super weird thing for him to answer as mafia because it like shits on all of his theories.
This world is like 50%
In the other world 10% Blazinghand is an amazingly large troll and put a game in that is so mafia sided its insane with 2 named VT and a mafia RB that only spreads confusion and gives mafia the EASIEST fake claim in existence ever ever.
Tehpoofter out.
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