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On May 12 2014 17:54 Holyflare wrote:
No, it's something I've ONLY used as medic. I was excited when you claimed a role because that made you town and I thought the game would be like 100% over but i had to make sure. The real OBVIOUS OBVIOUS reason is that there is a rber!!! Why would there be a roleblocker with nobody to roleblock.
That´s exactly what I´m getting at. You´ve only used that as medic, so scum hf could use it to give a medic claim credibility later on.
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On May 12 2014 17:53 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:50 Holyflare wrote:On May 12 2014 17:48 mderg wrote:
why would i tell you to unvote me? Saying that you´re wrong should imply that already. Because this is endgame and one misplaced vote is game over?????????????? I´d rather reason out of this than just hope you unvote me just because I tell you to.
If you were town. You have a medics vote on you, THATS INSTANT LOSE IF YOU ARE TOWN.
I would yell and scream and tell me everything under the sun to get the vote off me in case scum were afk!
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On May 12 2014 17:57 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:54 Holyflare wrote:
No, it's something I've ONLY used as medic. I was excited when you claimed a role because that made you town and I thought the game would be like 100% over but i had to make sure. The real OBVIOUS OBVIOUS reason is that there is a rber!!! Why would there be a roleblocker with nobody to roleblock. That´s exactly what I´m getting at. You´ve only used that as medic, so scum hf could use it to give a medic claim credibility later on.
So in your world the roleblocker blocks....?
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On May 12 2014 17:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:53 mderg wrote:On May 12 2014 17:50 Holyflare wrote:On May 12 2014 17:48 mderg wrote:
why would i tell you to unvote me? Saying that you´re wrong should imply that already. Because this is endgame and one misplaced vote is game over?????????????? I´d rather reason out of this than just hope you unvote me just because I tell you to. If you were town. You have a medics vote on you, THATS INSTANT LOSE IF YOU ARE TOWN. I would yell and scream and tell me everything under the sun to get the vote off me in case scum were afk!
As if screaming could help at all. How does it give me better chances of getting your vote off me than trying to reason out of this?
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Because that's a NORMAL towny reaction to have when you've invested so much time into the game trying to solve it!
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On May 12 2014 17:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:57 mderg wrote:On May 12 2014 17:54 Holyflare wrote:
No, it's something I've ONLY used as medic. I was excited when you claimed a role because that made you town and I thought the game would be like 100% over but i had to make sure. The real OBVIOUS OBVIOUS reason is that there is a rber!!! Why would there be a roleblocker with nobody to roleblock. That´s exactly what I´m getting at. You´ve only used that as medic, so scum hf could use it to give a medic claim credibility later on. So in your world the roleblocker blocks....?
What if there is a rber but no power role? It would be unusual but not impossible.
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On May 12 2014 18:03 Holyflare wrote:
Because that's a NORMAL towny reaction to have when you've invested so much time into the game trying to solve it!
I don´t fucking get your logic!
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I don't think that makes.... Any sense? Not to mention my role has been in my profile a loooonnggggg time. Hence the psychic part, which i am not.
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On May 12 2014 18:06 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 18:03 Holyflare wrote:
Because that's a NORMAL towny reaction to have when you've invested so much time into the game trying to solve it! I don´t fucking get your logic!
A normal person who has invested like 2 weeks of their time questioning people, making reads, expending energy to solve the game becomes generally very emotionally invested. So when 2 weeks of effort could be ended in 2 seconds by a rogue vote that would spark rage, anger desperation to do everything possible to get that vote off before the game is auto loss, wasting all that effort.
You aren't doing that at all. Your first reaction is to not believe a medic claim that was backed up by crumbs, that was evident by thread behaviour and was used in a way to solve the game and makes sense with a rber.
Your reaction isn't towny!
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On May 12 2014 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think that makes.... Any sense? Not to mention my role has been in my profile a loooonnggggg time. Hence the psychic part, which i am not.
You know that your role is in your profile, so you could use it to your advantage.
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On May 12 2014 18:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 18:06 mderg wrote:On May 12 2014 18:03 Holyflare wrote:
Because that's a NORMAL towny reaction to have when you've invested so much time into the game trying to solve it! I don´t fucking get your logic! A normal person who has invested like 2 weeks of their time questioning people, making reads, expending energy to solve the game becomes generally very emotionally invested. So when 2 weeks of effort could be ended in 2 seconds by a rogue vote that would spark rage, anger desperation to do everything possible to get that vote off before the game is auto loss, wasting all that effort. You aren't doing that at all. Your first reaction is to not believe a medic claim that was backed up by crumbs, that was evident by thread behaviour and was used in a way to solve the game and makes sense with a rber. Your reaction isn't towny!
It makes me scum, if I try to stay calm?
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I get the feeling that if I wrote "TAKE YOUR FUCKING VOTE OFF ME" you would have seen that as scummy because I didn´t try to reason out of it.
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I swear on my fucking life, hf, I´m town.
The reason why I´m scum reading you is because you read about everything wrong in this game and then proceed to put your vote on me in lylo without giving me a chance to defend myself.
So you were either just completely wrong all game or you´re scum. Your powerrank position speaks against you being completely wroong all game.
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So shit happened. 1 hour and I am at work.
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Ok so 2 named vt, a rb and a doc.
Sounds legit.
RB vs doc makes sense. Maybe 1named vt but not 2. So the only correct play is to lynch mderg.
Also the doc crumb looks fine... but I want to lynch HF...
Did any of the named VTs crumb?
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won´t be here for t least 3 hours... i hope i´m not dead when i come back
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I got RB for realzies. There is a scum RB.
This implies there is a blue. Oats dieing over me indicates HF is town. Oats wanted poofter dead and then one out of mderg/Koshi/cav. He had HF as town.
HF town means that Poofter/mderg are the scummers.
Look at the night kills please. They do NOT NOT NOT help me in ANY way.
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Reasons why Mderg/poofter makes sense.
Remember this post:
On May 09 2014 12:41 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 22:13 LoneMeow wrote:Night 1
<insert flavor here>
Final bote count:Vivax (5): Holyflare, thrawn2112, Cavalinho, Koshi, Steveling, Oatsmaster Cavalinho (0): StevelingSteveling (1): Tehpoofter, Cavalinho, TehpoofterKoshi (0): StevelingOatsmaster (1): Holyflare, StevelingNot boting (2): mderg, VivaxVivax the Naive Recruit (Vanilla Townie) is lynched.
Remember to send your night actions to all hosts. So assuming you're town HF and Steve is red. Who i smost likely to be scum here? (I realize vote count analysis is kinda lame after 1 day but still) I feel like in this type of lynching it might be something more interesting. Not 100% sure where I want to go with this tbh or if its informative but I feel like its hyper unlikely that there wasn't at least one scum in that vote. That would require HF and mderg are both red. Which would be the opposite of what I think now. So I feel like our scum is between those on the lynch block. If we're right about Steve being scum then I think Koshi is like super obvious to be with him not sure if its too obvious though . He might just be really wrong town he is my biggest question mark. Cav could be that lurker scum that sees his partner going down in flames and just tries to go the busing route. Oats Would be the scum mastermind type his attempt to go from scumsteve to me was really odd and then after that tried to say I scumslipped basically a really weak push on me maybe hoping it gained some traction. I realize associative reads are thin for some reason especially in forum mafia but What does everyone else think? How many mafia were on the Vivax lynch? In my world I'm thinking 2.
I always said the HF green read didn't make sense. But the mderg green read didn't make any sense as well.
"I don't think both scummers didn't vote so mderg and HF are town"
I asked Poofter about his mderg townread and he blamed me not reading his posts and said it was because mderg and him thought the same thing around the Steve thing. (I think it was that) But it was something silly anyway.
The townread on either HF and mderg was just unholy.
I might have been tunneled on HF but I see the light now. It's mderg/poofter guys.
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On May 11 2014 05:25 mderg wrote:
I certainly didn´t think steve would flip town...
I think it´s between poofter/oats/hf. Right now I´m not sure what to think. Poofter looks slightly more scummy to me than the others. I don´t know why he waited to vote steve until he could hammer him. This is really difficult to decide, though, I have to wait to see who gets killed. Maybe that can clear some things up.
On May 12 2014 03:03 mderg wrote:
I´m Grizzled Veteran.
The oats kill is kinda strange. I don´t think there was any indication of him having a power role and he was one of the top lynch targets. Makes me feel like it´s poofter trying to divert attention by killing his biggest scumread. Why would scum kill their next and probably easiest lynch target? Because they seem slightly less scummy doing so.
This is based on assumptions but definitely makes sense for me.
On May 12 2014 04:47 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 03:32 Koshi wrote:On May 09 2014 08:54 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 09 2014 08:49 Holyflare wrote:On May 09 2014 08:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
poofter scum.
Steve is a policy lynch at this point tbh.
Can you explain? Gotta setup tomorrow's mislynch. Oats planning ahead here. Could you give your opinion on this? You have to know that Poofter at this moment got Steveling as 85% scum. Why does Poofter say that Oats is setting up tomorrows misslynch? 1) Doesn't this imply poofter knows today is a misslynch? As in 'tomorrow scum needs 1 more misslynch and Oats is making that happen". 2) Why would Poofter think he is going to get "misslynched" tomorrow when he is the one that pushed Steve? Does he know Steve is town and therefore after this lynch he will become a target? Looks like it. 1) This would be easier to judge, if I heard him say it, rather than seeing the text. 2) This seems solid. There would be no need to worry about getting lynched, if steve were to flip scum. Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 03:41 Koshi wrote:
Who is poofter his second scummer?
WAIT
Who is poofter his first scummer now that Steveling is dead?
Nobody knows. He is letting it shine through that it is me.
Give me 1 post Poofter has quoted from me and said it came from scum for x reason? Nothing.
The only thing Poofter is calling me scum for is "Guys I am town, Koshi is scum for being so wrong"
That's the only thing.
Yeah, it didn´t seem like he had any clear scumreads besides steve and (after that oats). It´s odd but it could also just be that he didn´t have another clear sumread. I agree his reasoning for calling you scum is unconvincing. Overall there´s solid reasons why poofter could be scum. There´s nothing that makes him scum by itself but the small pieces together paint a scummy picture.
On May 12 2014 17:31 mderg wrote:
you´re 100% wrong.
At least one of you and koshi is scum, possibly both of you.
Look at this. Mderg has poofter as scum 24/7. He is buddying me, saying my cases are correct, having the EXACT SAME READS AS ME. EXACT SAME READS AS ME. For the entire game. Mderg had me as town 24/7. With EXACT the same reads as me, he believed last scum was between HF/Oats/Poofter. Then there is heat on him and it looks like he is going to get lynched with HF claiming blue and voting him. What happens? Now that HF goes after him I am suddenly the other scummer? Why not POOFTER?
WHY???
cuz he is scum and slipped.
He knows Poofter will back him up and is now incriminating town HF/Koshi.
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