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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:48 GMT
#1175
why would i tell you to unvote me? Saying that you´re wrong should imply that already.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:52 GMT
#1178
Also the comment about me being your "little fwiend" only served to give your medic claim credibility. Nothing else. You´re telling me scum couldn´t plan ahead and use that to give the medic claim credibility? That´s completely independent from the situation right now.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:53 GMT
#1179
On May 12 2014 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 17:48 mderg wrote:
why would i tell you to unvote me? Saying that you´re wrong should imply that already.


Because this is endgame and one misplaced vote is game over??????????????

I´d rather reason out of this than just hope you unvote me just because I tell you to.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 08:57 GMT
#1181
On May 12 2014 17:54 Holyflare wrote:
No, it's something I've ONLY used as medic. I was excited when you claimed a role because that made you town and I thought the game would be like 100% over but i had to make sure. The real OBVIOUS OBVIOUS reason is that there is a rber!!! Why would there be a roleblocker with nobody to roleblock.

That´s exactly what I´m getting at. You´ve only used that as medic, so scum hf could use it to give a medic claim credibility later on.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 09:01 GMT
#1184
On May 12 2014 17:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 17:53 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
On May 12 2014 17:48 mderg wrote:
why would i tell you to unvote me? Saying that you´re wrong should imply that already.


Because this is endgame and one misplaced vote is game over??????????????

I´d rather reason out of this than just hope you unvote me just because I tell you to.


If you were town. You have a medics vote on you, THATS INSTANT LOSE IF YOU ARE TOWN.

I would yell and scream and tell me everything under the sun to get the vote off me in case scum were afk!

As if screaming could help at all. How does it give me better chances of getting your vote off me than trying to reason out of this?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 09:05 GMT
#1186
On May 12 2014 17:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 17:57 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 17:54 Holyflare wrote:
No, it's something I've ONLY used as medic. I was excited when you claimed a role because that made you town and I thought the game would be like 100% over but i had to make sure. The real OBVIOUS OBVIOUS reason is that there is a rber!!! Why would there be a roleblocker with nobody to roleblock.

That´s exactly what I´m getting at. You´ve only used that as medic, so scum hf could use it to give a medic claim credibility later on.


So in your world the roleblocker blocks....?

What if there is a rber but no power role? It would be unusual but not impossible.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 09:06 GMT
#1187
On May 12 2014 18:03 Holyflare wrote:
Because that's a NORMAL towny reaction to have when you've invested so much time into the game trying to solve it!

I don´t fucking get your logic!
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 09:22 GMT
#1190
On May 12 2014 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think that makes.... Any sense? Not to mention my role has been in my profile a loooonnggggg time. Hence the psychic part, which i am not.

You know that your role is in your profile, so you could use it to your advantage.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 09:26 GMT
#1191
On May 12 2014 18:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 18:06 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:03 Holyflare wrote:
Because that's a NORMAL towny reaction to have when you've invested so much time into the game trying to solve it!

I don´t fucking get your logic!


A normal person who has invested like 2 weeks of their time questioning people, making reads, expending energy to solve the game becomes generally very emotionally invested. So when 2 weeks of effort could be ended in 2 seconds by a rogue vote that would spark rage, anger desperation to do everything possible to get that vote off before the game is auto loss, wasting all that effort.

You aren't doing that at all. Your first reaction is to not believe a medic claim that was backed up by crumbs, that was evident by thread behaviour and was used in a way to solve the game and makes sense with a rber.

Your reaction isn't towny!

It makes me scum, if I try to stay calm?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 09:31 GMT
#1192
I get the feeling that if I wrote "TAKE YOUR FUCKING VOTE OFF ME" you would have seen that as scummy because I didn´t try to reason out of it.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 09:51 GMT
#1193
I swear on my fucking life, hf, I´m town.
The reason why I´m scum reading you is because you read about everything wrong in this game and then proceed to put your vote on me in lylo without giving me a chance to defend myself.
So you were either just completely wrong all game or you´re scum. Your powerrank position speaks against you being completely wroong all game.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 10:53 GMT
#1196
won´t be here for t least 3 hours... i hope i´m not dead when i come back
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 13:44 GMT
#1210
On May 12 2014 21:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 17:31 mderg wrote:
you´re 100% wrong.
At least one of you and koshi is scum, possibly both of you.

Look at this. Mderg has poofter as scum 24/7. He is buddying me, saying my cases are correct, having the EXACT SAME READS AS ME. EXACT SAME READS AS ME. For the entire game. Mderg had me as town 24/7. With EXACT the same reads as me, he believed last scum was between HF/Oats/Poofter. Then there is heat on him and it looks like he is going to get lynched with HF claiming blue and voting him. What happens? Now that HF goes after him I am suddenly the other scummer? Why not POOFTER?

WHY???

cuz he is scum and slipped.

He knows Poofter will back him up and is now incriminating town HF/Koshi.

Did you really ask why not poofter? Really?
The reasoning is as simple as it can get! To spell it out for you:
Hf voted me, meaning that scum could hammer me at any time. Poofter and Cav were here at the same time, meaning that they would hammer me, if they were both scum. This leads to at least one of them being town. This also means that at least one of you and Hf have to be scum. That can´t be difficult to understand. It´s just based on logic.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 13:50 GMT
#1213
On May 12 2014 22:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 22:44 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 21:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 17:31 mderg wrote:
you´re 100% wrong.
At least one of you and koshi is scum, possibly both of you.

Look at this. Mderg has poofter as scum 24/7. He is buddying me, saying my cases are correct, having the EXACT SAME READS AS ME. EXACT SAME READS AS ME. For the entire game. Mderg had me as town 24/7. With EXACT the same reads as me, he believed last scum was between HF/Oats/Poofter. Then there is heat on him and it looks like he is going to get lynched with HF claiming blue and voting him. What happens? Now that HF goes after him I am suddenly the other scummer? Why not POOFTER?

WHY???

cuz he is scum and slipped.

He knows Poofter will back him up and is now incriminating town HF/Koshi.

Did you really ask why not poofter? Really?
The reasoning is as simple as it can get! To spell it out for you:
Hf voted me, meaning that scum could hammer me at any time. Poofter and Cav were here at the same time, meaning that they would hammer me, if they were both scum. This leads to at least one of them being town. This also means that at least one of you and Hf have to be scum. That can´t be difficult to understand. It´s just based on logic.

Why can't it be HF & Poofter?

It can be Hf & poofter. I never said it couldn´t be hf and poofter. It´s just 99.9% safe to assume that 1 of cav and poofter is town and that 1 of hf and you is scum. That doesn´t mean that you are scum together.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 13:51 GMT
#1216
On May 12 2014 22:50 Koshi wrote:
You got me as town for 99% of this game. You got Poofter as scum 99% of the game. Then somebody counterclaims named VT and another guy votes you.


And you go:

KOSHI IS SCUM GUYS

I´m at a loss of words
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 13:52 GMT
#1217
On May 12 2014 22:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 22:50 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:44 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 21:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 17:31 mderg wrote:
you´re 100% wrong.
At least one of you and koshi is scum, possibly both of you.

Look at this. Mderg has poofter as scum 24/7. He is buddying me, saying my cases are correct, having the EXACT SAME READS AS ME. EXACT SAME READS AS ME. For the entire game. Mderg had me as town 24/7. With EXACT the same reads as me, he believed last scum was between HF/Oats/Poofter. Then there is heat on him and it looks like he is going to get lynched with HF claiming blue and voting him. What happens? Now that HF goes after him I am suddenly the other scummer? Why not POOFTER?

WHY???

cuz he is scum and slipped.

He knows Poofter will back him up and is now incriminating town HF/Koshi.

Did you really ask why not poofter? Really?
The reasoning is as simple as it can get! To spell it out for you:
Hf voted me, meaning that scum could hammer me at any time. Poofter and Cav were here at the same time, meaning that they would hammer me, if they were both scum. This leads to at least one of them being town. This also means that at least one of you and Hf have to be scum. That can´t be difficult to understand. It´s just based on logic.

Why can't it be HF & Poofter?

It can be Hf & poofter. I never said it couldn´t be hf and poofter. It´s just 99.9% safe to assume that 1 of cav and poofter is town and that 1 of hf and you is scum. That doesn´t mean that you are scum together.

I BOLDED IT IN RED.

You say KOSHI IS SCUM WITH HF.

Since when does "at least 1" mean "both"?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:02 GMT
#1222
On May 12 2014 22:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 22:52 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:51 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:50 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 22:44 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 21:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 12 2014 17:31 mderg wrote:
you´re 100% wrong.
At least one of you and koshi is scum, possibly both of you.

Look at this. Mderg has poofter as scum 24/7. He is buddying me, saying my cases are correct, having the EXACT SAME READS AS ME. EXACT SAME READS AS ME. For the entire game. Mderg had me as town 24/7. With EXACT the same reads as me, he believed last scum was between HF/Oats/Poofter. Then there is heat on him and it looks like he is going to get lynched with HF claiming blue and voting him. What happens? Now that HF goes after him I am suddenly the other scummer? Why not POOFTER?

WHY???

cuz he is scum and slipped.

He knows Poofter will back him up and is now incriminating town HF/Koshi.

Did you really ask why not poofter? Really?
The reasoning is as simple as it can get! To spell it out for you:
Hf voted me, meaning that scum could hammer me at any time. Poofter and Cav were here at the same time, meaning that they would hammer me, if they were both scum. This leads to at least one of them being town. This also means that at least one of you and Hf have to be scum. That can´t be difficult to understand. It´s just based on logic.

Why can't it be HF & Poofter?

It can be Hf & poofter. I never said it couldn´t be hf and poofter. It´s just 99.9% safe to assume that 1 of cav and poofter is town and that 1 of hf and you is scum. That doesn´t mean that you are scum together.

I BOLDED IT IN RED.

You say KOSHI IS SCUM WITH HF.

Since when does "at least 1" mean "both"?

How am I not 100% town?

Counterclaimed named VT
Doc HF
You got Poofter as scum entire game.

How am I not 100% town?

This is all pretty simple: 1 of cav and poofter is town. So either cav who counterclaimed my role is scum or poofter who seemed scummy the whole game is scum. That seems pretty difficult to decide.
And 1 of you and hf is scum. I called hf scum because of OMGUS, his claim actually makes sense now that I had the time to think it through. So it´s more likely you than him, despite me reading you as town beforehand. Also I didn´t read you as town for the most part of the game. You were scummy to me at first and I switched my opinion to leaning town on you.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:10 GMT
#1227
On May 12 2014 23:07 Koshi wrote:
You voted Steveling over poofter who looked the entire game as scum?

you´re twisting words... it should be 100% clear what i meant to say.
Considering that steve was town poofter´s whole play seemed scummy in retrospect.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:11 GMT
#1228
On May 12 2014 23:05 Koshi wrote:
w.e I am now confirmed town when you flip.

that´s nice when there´s more scum than town alive.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 12 2014 14:25 GMT
#1230
short summary of our the back and forth between koshi and me: koshi is twisting words and searching for small parts of my posts which are slightly odd. Mixed in are half-truths about the reads I´ve made. Seems townie to me.
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