EPTVE
vayneauthority
alakaslam
waveofshadow
tehpoofter
Justanothertownie
Gumshoe
Ok this is the list of people still alive I think
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
VE vayneauthority alakaslam waveofshadow tehpoofter Justanothertownie Gumshoe Ok this is the list of people still alive I think | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
We probably have 2 mafia (4maf+traitor vs 18 town seems about right, probably not 5 maf+ traitor) left. so this guy: On May 13 2014 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: So I guess the plan for today is to let gumshoe slide, huh? Whatever. Tell me who to vote for later. and poofter. with VA/Gumshoe as the next men up. Maybe I'm wrong on poofter, but if he's town I still don't get why he shot Kosher, even if koshi was somehow mafia (which I don't think is the case, almost certain it isn't) it's better to shoot inactive people whose flip won't tell us much about anything. Like idk, I feel we should continue lynching into these 4. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
So there's that. Maybe we have less left than we think. Austinmcc seemed to want to kill caller/gumshoe from his latest posts so maybe mafia wanted to kill him because of that. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
That's cute. You're cute. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On May 13 2014 13:12 WaveofShadow wrote: One day I'll get a bullet. Anyway gj whoever led that shit. Let me break it down for you. Because I shot Caller and NOT Ace we are in a comfortable position. We can pretty confidently assume that marv and probably also you are town due to the shoot-ace-right-now bullying. HAD I SHOT ACE and we lynched caller that would not be the case for example: If Caller is scum we are still in a good position but can't be sure about marv. If Caller is town we are in a strictly worse position. So shooting Caller is always the better decision as long as that guy doesn't magically starts playing (yeah, I have my doubts). MARV. You will probably die tonight. Leave us a legacy (I know you want poofter dead but maybe some additional reads)! You can relax when you are dead.  | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On May 13 2014 17:35 marvellosity wrote: maybe you should have voted him on day 4 like I did bish. Someone's vote was on Ace at the end of the day, after a great case that no-one followed... tsk. marv's Day 6 lynch list: TehPoofter ... . On May 13 2014 05:08 Hapahauli wrote: Vote Count: Ace (5) - Alakaslam, marvellosity, justanothertownie, gumshoe, VisceraEyes tehpoofter (2) - Vayneauthority, Palmar gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow vayneauthority (0) - Marvellosity (0) - Not Voting (2) - Ace, tehpoofter Day ends in . There are 10 players alive, and it takes 6 to lynch. lol y u b fat | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
I thought nobody do it, and yeah I waphlle a few time | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
He says only the good and never the bad. Is the way and the truth of his svengali. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 13 2014 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote: Don't listen to his lies - he was on scum but he also caused a no-lynch. On Gumshoe. He says only the good and never the bad. Is the way and the truth of his svengali. I do feel terrible for missing that gumshoe wagon at 3am. I hope your apple juice turns to urine in your mouth, swine. On May 13 2014 19:44 Palmar wrote: Oh and marv. We probably have 2 mafia (4maf+traitor vs 18 town seems about right, probably not 5 maf+ traitor) left. so this guy: and poofter. with VA/Gumshoe as the next men up. Maybe I'm wrong on poofter, but if he's town I still don't get why he shot Kosher, even if koshi was somehow mafia (which I don't think is the case, almost certain it isn't) it's better to shoot inactive people whose flip won't tell us much about anything. Like idk, I feel we should continue lynching into these 4. No, we're not going to lynch Wave. We're gonna lynch Poofter. I have vaguely mused on the mafia numbers. Normally I have kinda firm opinions on these things but not so much here. The thing is, mafia KP seems to be really low. 2 shots night 1 and only 1 shot per night thereafter it seems. Suggests maybe a higher number of mafia. Counterbalanced against this is the no-flip vigi stuff. Certainly with the low factional Kp it seems plausible that mafia would have two day vigis (this was kinda a sticking point a little bit for me before, not so much now). On May 13 2014 19:50 Palmar wrote: Oh Caller may have been mafia. So there's that. Maybe we have less left than we think. Austinmcc seemed to want to kill caller/gumshoe from his latest posts so maybe mafia wanted to kill him because of that. They killed austin because he was the only dude left (barring Slam) who looked really town. Don't see why you'd try to look beyond that (when, for example, Ace wasn't even a suspect for him and we know what he flipped). Random Vote Musings On May 13 2014 05:08 Hapahauli wrote: Vote Count: Ace (5) - Alakaslam, marvellosity, justanothertownie, gumshoe, VisceraEyes tehpoofter (2) - Vayneauthority, Palmar gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow vayneauthority (0) - Marvellosity (0) - Not Voting (2) - Ace, tehpoofter Day ends in . There are 10 players alive, and it takes 6 to lynch. This is the last votecount before Wave adds the 6th vote about 2h before deadline. Notable is that Ace had long been "the lynch" and yet despite this he hadn't even reached majority. So Palmar, Vayne, tehpoofter all look pretty bad from this. Palmar and Vayne both said they would consolidate on Ace if necessary, yet neither actually did and it was up to Wave to hammer. 1-2 of these people are bound to be town so it's pretty annoying they couldn't just, like, play properly and not add this extra layer of confusion. Anyway, two separate but connected strands of stuff: 1) you'd normally expect a mafia to be on the main wagon. My faith in gumshoe's towniness has been waning ever since I gave him a townread, so if anyone is mafia on the wagon maybe it's him? To be honest I haven't really read the stuff gumshoe wrote about Vayne, but mostly I just felt uneasy that Vayne was the target at all. 2) because the vote was so close and it was very hard to actually reach majority, maybe no mafia were on the wagon and they hoped they'd save Ace for a day somehow. With how eerily quiet this town can be + postcount limit, this is kinda plausible. Like, we didn't have a majority with 2h to go, and no-one was saying a thing. Kinda remarkable actually. So anyway on this train of thought, gumshoe is town because the whole wagon is town, and again the people off the wagon look worse (poof, Palmar, Vayne) Anyway, generally speaking, people off wagon worse than people on wagon (kinda stating the obvious). At the very least when a mafia barely reaches majority it makes sense to be looking off the wagon. So in any case, while my townread of gumshoe has been waning to an extent, my scumread on poofter has been strengthening, kinda organically like. I already said quite good stuff about poofter. Palmar's point in a quote above is quite ok as well. It's a postcount limit game and yet poof has only used half of his limit. Compare to BH's mini (where he was town) which started after this game, where he posted double the amount he's posted here. And postcount limit isn't really an excuse, like I said he could have double the posts by now. On May 12 2014 04:43 justanothertownie wrote: Procedes to not vote Ace when possible but does vote gumshoe BEFORE he returned. Hmmmmmm... Saving posts for a while now. This is a good point, ties into what I was talking about before to an extent. Remember when I posted before that poofter's scumreads were at some stage prplhz, VE, Ace So prplhz (me) thinks VE and then Ace and possibly both are mafia, and poofter arrives a townread on VE and never votes for Ace. This doesn't make sense to me, and there's no real explanation he can give that can make it make sense. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?user=Tehpoofter&view=all This is the townie filter in his concurrent game that just finished. It reads pretty differently to me. He's much more involved, he cares more, there's emotion there. Here there are just long reads posts. Again I understand this is partly the product of postcount stuff, but I don't think you lose all investment because you're forced to post less (and again, to remind, posting much less than even the postcount limit demands) poofter never did go away and read prplhz's mafiagames like he promised. I find it quite hard to believe that a poofter who has looked invested in both towngames that I've seen (Catastrophe, BH's game) is this uninvested in this game. Lynch pl0x. One of the reasons I think he is by far the best lynch is because there are 2-3 mafia left possibly and I don't know who they're going to be if it's not poofter. There's a couple of people who want to lynch Palmar, and a couple of people who want to lynch gumshoe, but in my mind they are much less scummy than poofter. We all know gumshoe is capable of this assholery as town, and I think he at least gets a day for being on a narrow mafia lynch. Palmar I still have tone reasons to think he's town, and a bunch of earlygame posts that I nodded to that point to him quite possibly being town. I think it would be quite silly to lynch Palmar over poofter. In short, Poofter ---------------------------------------------> gumshoe -> Palmar -> Vayne (with the last 3 kinda interchangeable to an extent) | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
So, you are sold on VE now? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 14 2014 08:20 justanothertownie wrote: Poofter vanishing while playing his other game/ranting in postgame doesn't look too good either. So, you are sold on VE now? Yes, I'd noticed that as well, but I thought what I said was enough ^_^ I guess VE is probably town. He showed willingness/voted Ace quite early. So yes, we'll go VE town. One other thing somewhat related to the low mafia KP/day vigis stuff: We have strongandbig Alakaslam justanothertownie Oatsmaster tehpoofter With the low amount of mafia KP I would probably guess at a 3-2 split rather than a 4-1 split. Of course I'd never lynch poof for this alone, but when setup thoughts align with thoughts I already have, I guess that's a good sign. It would seem about right for a mafia team with little KP to have an extra couple of shots. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On May 14 2014 08:27 marvellosity wrote: Yes, I'd noticed that as well, but I thought what I said was enough ^_^ I guess VE is probably town. He showed willingness/voted Ace quite early. So yes, we'll go VE town. One other thing somewhat related to the low mafia KP/day vigis stuff: We have strongandbig Alakaslam justanothertownie Oatsmaster tehpoofter With the low amount of mafia KP I would probably guess at a 3-2 split rather than a 4-1 split. Of course I'd never lynch poof for this alone, but when setup thoughts align with thoughts I already have, I guess that's a good sign. It would seem about right for a mafia team with little KP to have an extra couple of shots. Pfffff Might aswell bold slam and make me green in that list! I will go for poofter tomorrow if I am alive. Apart from him I am just afraid of Palmar. Yes, he has been reasonable way too much to be scum one would think but I know he can do that as scum. What was the game he fooled me (obsing) really hard? Titanic III I think. There are some reasons to think Vayne is town so I will definitely look at Palmar before him. Gumshoe is just a pain in the ass and disappeared completely AGAIN. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Day 8: Alakaslam (Day Vigilante) has died! Day ends in . There are 7 alive, and it takes 4 to lynch. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Ugh. So Slam is a more useful player than marv atm? Hm. Anyway what are the chances we're sitting at 5-3 and MYLO right now as opposed to 6-2? (and actually considering this we may have been at MYLO yesterday too.) | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On May 14 2014 12:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Dead game is dead. Ugh. So Slam is a more useful player than marv atm? Hm. Anyway what are the chances we're sitting at 5-3 and MYLO right now as opposed to 6-2? (and actually considering this we may have been at MYLO yesterday too.) we'll run in circles and fuck ourselves if we try to figure that stuff out it doesnt matter ##vote:tehpoofter | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 14 2014 12:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Dead game is dead. Ugh. So Slam is a more useful player than marv atm? Hm. Anyway what are the chances we're sitting at 5-3 and MYLO right now as opposed to 6-2? (and actually considering this we may have been at MYLO yesterday too.) Strictly speaking I'd say Slam is more confirmed town than marv atm, if this is in reference to the NK. I'm considering poofter. Curious to know what he has to say to the accusations against him. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On May 14 2014 12:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Dead game is dead. Ugh. So Slam is a more useful player than marv atm? Hm. Anyway what are the chances we're sitting at 5-3 and MYLO right now as opposed to 6-2? (and actually considering this we may have been at MYLO yesterday too.) You think it is likely that we hit no scum with shots and they started with 5 + traitor? Keep in mind every flipped scum had a role. Also, if that is the case why lynch Ace yesterday instead of no lynching. Or are you saying none of the 3 not-Ace mafia where on the wagon? That would mean it is poofter, Vayne and Palmar. And does it make any difference at all? Would your reads change knowing the actual # of scum? How? Let's say you are scum poofter (lone scummer) or his buddy (not marv). If you shoot marv right now you can basically concede as long as the buddy isn't a strong universal townread. Slam is confirmed town so he is always a good shot. | ||
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