EPTOn May 07 2014 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
TY for posts Ceph. And holy shit Slam.
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Austin this lynch feels so off to me. Is the way Foolishness has played over the last couple of cycles really just scum giving up? And the fact that so many people are seemingly not ok with the lynch by pushing other people and yet they all eventually fall in line....
Again I stick it out here foe earlier reasons but I have definite reservations here. I'm just not sure I see a scum Foolishness antagonize the people who are out to get him. It doesn't make sense. You agreed with me when I said so earlier.
If he DOES flip scum though I think we've all but won, and lynch into my list from last night to win. (Yet another reason why I don't think it makes sense for Foolishness to give up here unless the whole scumteam is basically afk now or beyond caring, which is of course a possibility).
Eh. I felt wonky on oats, feel slightly wonky on this, but what's the alternative? There's nobody who's 105% mafia, hands down, has to be, gggggggggggggg.TY for posts Ceph. And holy shit Slam.
O.O
Austin this lynch feels so off to me. Is the way Foolishness has played over the last couple of cycles really just scum giving up? And the fact that so many people are seemingly not ok with the lynch by pushing other people and yet they all eventually fall in line....
Again I stick it out here foe earlier reasons but I have definite reservations here. I'm just not sure I see a scum Foolishness antagonize the people who are out to get him. It doesn't make sense. You agreed with me when I said so earlier.
If he DOES flip scum though I think we've all but won, and lynch into my list from last night to win. (Yet another reason why I don't think it makes sense for Foolishness to give up here unless the whole scumteam is basically afk now or beyond caring, which is of course a possibility).
I'm FINE with lynching Foolishness. It feels good in this case? There's SOME resistance. There's him just straight doing jack and then giving up when the whole time town has been getting into a BETTER position. If nothing else, you've gotten more posty while scummers have been dropping. You were sadface earlier, now you seem to have a little more oomph, and that corresponds with good things for town happening. Foolishness is almost the opposite, except he's also got the whole getting called scum/getting lynched thing going on.
But like...he had posts and reads and stuff while town was slow, while we were barely getting people on board with lynches. The moment we start lynching scum, he's suddenly way more absent, and not in "I was wrong, feel like we're going in a good direction, gg let's win" way. He's actively kinda angry about how things are going, and that's NOT what I'd expect after, again, TWO SCUM LYNCHES and TWO NIGHTS OF SCUM NOT GETTING THE KILLS THEY WANT and THE TRAITOR DYING (even in a bad spot, there would ALWAYS be a hope for scum that the traitor was someone well situated).
Then look at his SnB case. It wasn't right. Not like, SnB was green, but like it just doesn't FEEL good. Couple people noticed it, and I was townie on SnB, didn't understand the suspicion but especially not the Fool case. Then there's a case on RoL. And a case on BH (who, as traitor, wouldn't be known to scum). Compare those to his posts on Oats. Foolishness is posting up a storm, researching up a storm, to show why SnB/RoL/BH mafia. All people the scum team knew were town or MAYBE traitor.
Then look at his treatment of oats. He's SCUMMY on oats, but never PUSHES oats. Oats is a secondary option N1. Oats is mafia on D2, but let's lynch RoL midway through the day instead. When Oats flips mafia, it's right back to RoL.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. MAYBE HE'S TOWN AND PISSED AND FUCKING OFF BUT, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME AS A WHOLE, IT DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY?
I'd agree that mafia Foolishness clears up a couple folks. I'm pretty certain that he's mafia, again, not 105%, but there's the combination of the play, of the people he's chosen to look at and push, and then the fact that his response to the game swinging into a good position for town is to be less helpful. Maybe he town, but I don't think it adds up.
