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Blazinghand
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On May 01 2014 06:20 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 06:13 Alakaslam wrote:
K here is something.
IF foolishness is scum, so also is Koshi most likely even though that makes very little sense.
If foolishness is town Koshi could still be scum but most likely he is t. I'll reiterate that on day 1 I thought Koshi was town (just based off his posting and thread presence, I never did a hard analysis or anything). tehpoofter brings up some good points though that can't be ignored. I don't think Koshi should be lynched today (and probably not tomorrow either) because there's a handful of other people that need to be taken care of first (myself, Palmar, Oats, RoL, Caller, etc.).
Foolishness is right in that there are bigger fish to fry. Look, I think we can say pretty certainly there's scum amongst the people who like never contributed, voted, and weren't on main wagons at the end of D1, right? We don't want these people alive at LYLO, and our vigis would have shot them by now if they were going to. Realistically speaking I think a guy like Gumshoe is NOT going to play well as town ANYWAYS so even if by some longshot he's town, he was a liability regardless. That being said, as always I am willing to consolidate. We have just a few hours left now so we should all say who we're willing to vote for so we can get an idea of what's possible. Remember, it's majority lynch here.
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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Well if gumshoe isn't happenning that's fine but there's no way in heck that were lynching fool. Also 1) foolishness can't outfox me in a QT for so long, you guys are just bad and 2) foolishness is town
##unvote: Gumshoe
##vote: Oatsmaster
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Blazinghand
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Foolishness is basically town for
1) posting reads and cases
2) responding to situations and not ignoring them
3) actually reading the thread and interacting with things that happen in the thread.
4) not being afk
Of which all his reads are not doing.
Like, I want you guys to contemplate what you're doing here. There's tons of like lurkers who aren't reading, writing cases, making reads, responding to situations, interacting with the thread. They're all being afk or "being afk"
and here's foolishness actually playing the game and everyone's like "yeah clearly this guy, the guy actually playing the game, is scum"
how serious are you here ._.
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Blazinghand
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Actually I'm kind of down for like, Palmar shenannies. WoS, ARE YOU INTERESTED?!
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Blazinghand
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BTW we really need like 2 more votes on Oats. I've gotta run for a bit but I'll be back before deadline. Look, we can't no-lynch today. I'm willing to entertain shenannies if there will be people around
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Blazinghand
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Fool isn't a realistic possibility and he's also like super towb.
Vote oats. Even if he's town we need to see the flip at this point objectively
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Blazinghand
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"Clearly bh fool scum for pushing town oats. Oh what oats flops scum? BH and fool scum for bussing scum oats."
All of my wat
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Blazinghand
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The only thing I'd call 5/5 in that post is the glorious respite we get from the garbage you call logic for the rest of the night.
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Blazinghand
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Anyone who shoots Cephiro, Slam or Blazinghand is scumclaiming and everyone should policy lynch such a person.
Cephiro, I do not for a moment believe you are actually the parity cop. The lack of checkcrumbs is prefectly fine but your choice of targets is atrocious. A Parity cop first and foremost does NOT want to be in a situation where he claims Day 3 (also, wtf is with the early claim? ._.) with "different" checks on two players whose alignments are murky. Individually, the check on the claimed masoner and the alakaslam both make sense, but your second check (or more reasonably, your first check) as a parity cop is always on someone whose alignment you know. The goal of the cop is to check people who will be alive later, the goal of the parity cop is basically that but you want one of your dudes to be shot or lynched so you know what's what.
So then the question is, what the fuck are you doing here, cephiro? If you're the parity cop, night 1 you should have checked someone who was obviously town. And though I am a great player, night 1 that was NOT me. all you have to do is read the thread and Jat's jubfollowers. Now, maybe night 2 you were planning to make your anchor check, maybe on someone like austinmcc, or odinofpergo or something, right?
WRONG.
Your checks don't make sense, and you were town you'd know weren't in danger of getting nked with other, better players alive, and even if you were a checkcrumb would be easy. SO easy.
Claiming so early? checks make no sense?
oh yes, I can see it now. Me and slam are both town. one of us gets lynched, and you say "ah hah! looks like the other one is scum!" and that one gets lynched, and now suddenly town has mislynched twice. We go from 15 players down to 11 (assuming 1 nk per night) and this could easily be a game could be a 5-scum game. By the time we lynch you, we're potentially at lylo. With a town like this, we wouldn't make it after 2 more mislynches.
Nice try, but the claim doesn't hold water.
##vote cephiro
/dunked
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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SORRY CEPH. CANT HERE YOUR BUKKSHIT EXCUSES OVER THE SOUND OF YOU GETTING DUNKD
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Blazinghand
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Well good new for you is that I only get 25 posts today. So I can't really waste them on dunks. But those two we re SO SWEET.
Plus you gotta admit everything about this claim smells wrong
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Blazinghand
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On May 02 2014 15:43 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Foolishness
oh COME ON. Read the thread, man. There's a cop claim.
On May 02 2014 15:38 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 15:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Well good new for you is that I only get 25 posts today. So I can't really waste them on dunks. But those two we re SO SWEET.
Plus you gotta admit everything about this claim smells wrong Not really. I don't think the checks were bad at all honestly, and even if not checking a 'sure town' is sort of a misplay, I could see myself making the same one. Is Ceph known for being good at bluerole use? The unfortunate part is that the scenario that Ceph is traitor (or another scum) fakeclaiming to try and get us to use two lynches is quite realistic. Especially if at this point he is in fact the traitor and was recruited by the scumteam and they planned all this shit out. I'm trying to consider how to use JAT's shot to deal with this atm---I don't know if this can be let go in any way. I also wonder if we have a coroner of any sort---I'm assuming not since I feel like it would have/should have been used already.
I hadn't considered Ceph as a traitor, but that actually brings up a very interesting point. Suppose Ceph IS the traitor, but he hasn't been recruited. A Traitor typically gets one chance in the game to guess at least half the scumteam, right? If he gets it right, he gets into the scum QT, and if he gets it wrong, he doesn't, but he still wins with scum. So maybe Ceph waits until N2 to try to get his reads together, since he doesn't want to screw up. In a 23 person game, you could concievably have 4 scum + 1 traitor, so Ceph submits two names-- me and Slam. Hosts PM him back and say "sorry, no dice"
Now, he knows that of me and slam, at least ONE is innocent. So he claims Pcop. Either we're both town and he dies after getting 2 mislynches (probably the best he could hope for at this point) or, one of us is scum and the other is town, and after we both get lynched he can swing one more mislynch.
That could be it.
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Blazinghand
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Oh, it doesn't even need to be 4 scum + 1 traitor (which seems a bit low) for this to make sense, sense with the oats lynch D2, it could be 5 scum + 1 traitor, and once oats gets lynched, there's only 4 scum. Ceph sees his chance to make a guess, then goes with the plan I outlined above. It would also explain why BOTH of his checks are on me/slam rather than just one. It's all coming together now.
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Blazinghand
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I'll take 10. I'm feeling like making lots of posts today. but REALLY REALLY I dont' think we should even consider fool today man
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Blazinghand
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I like #2. It makes a lot of sense. If Cephiro's really the cop, he'll have another check tomorrow. We can have him check someone we're very sure is town (like VE) for calibration. If he's really the cop, he might get shot, but if that's the case then we have a 50% chance of lynching the scum in Ceph/Bh/Slam rather than a 33% chance. Even better, if he's NOT the cop, he won't get two mislynches, just one. For example, let's say he checks VE and gets SAME. Since we can be very sure VE is town, we lynch Blazinghand, and when Blazinghand flips town, we lynch Ceph next rather than lynching Slam.
I'm sure that no matter how I rage I am still just a rat in a cage if you guys decide to lynch me, it's because you won't listen to reason, and after I flip you'll end up lynching slam anyways before lynching ceph. The important thing is that ceph claims his third check BEFORE I flip. If we lynch me today, Ceph can just claim he checked VE and got DIFFERENT and people will lynch oats too.
If Ceph checks VE before we lynch into me/slam, though, things get much more interesting. His charade will be harder to maintain. And if he's really the pcop? We have everything to gain and nothing to lose. Today was a shit day for a pcop to claim anyways (as I'm sure you're now all realizing...)
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Blazinghand
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On May 03 2014 06:03 prplhz wrote:
@Blazinghand Why VisceraEyes and not Foolishness?
Foolishness is way more likely to be town but for some reason literally nobody agrees with me about this
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Blazinghand
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On May 03 2014 06:05 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea how anyone can be this sure about VEs alignment. Besides that (2) relies on the fact that Cephiro survives (ok, if he dies we at least know he is legit). Another problem is if scum has a jailkeeper.
The thing is if we lynch one of Cephiros checks we get the same result and have a better chance of lynching scum today. Lynching outside of them only makes sense if you REALLY doubt the claim and I don't see any reason to do so - bold move to claim right now and risk being cced, Cephiro was on the scumwagon day1 when it was 8:8 and last but not least: is there anyone who really thinks BOTH of BH and slam are town? I don't.
What happens if we go with (2) and Cephiro gets got? Town in a better/worse spot tomorrow? (I agree that VE is not the choice for a check tonight if BH wants to get from a check what BH wants to get from a check, he said, using a sentence that is difficult to read and understand)
If Ceph is town and gets shot, he would have been shot anyways, and we can lynch into me/slam with the assurance that one of us is scum. In fact, another reason waiting a day is good is because we don't KNOW he's lying about the claim, and if he IS telling the truth scum is gonna clear that up for us by shooting him.
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Blazinghand
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On May 03 2014 06:08 prplhz wrote:
Literally nobody? Or just a few people who are generally being ignored?
Does anybody agree with you on VisceraEyes?
Well, not literally nobody. Just nobody who's really loud.
...Foolishness agrees with me on VE. ._.
I feel like everyone this game has shit reads except me
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