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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 27 2014 20:25 GMT
#381
Is it possible to give away posts?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 27 2014 20:37 GMT
#382
prpl, when you post next, I'd be interested in any oats-specific thoughts you have, beyond just dropping him in a list. For both you and foolishness, he hasn't posted much but there's still some stuff to analyze in his posting, and I'd be interested in seeing whether you guys just feel generally poopy on him or agree with my thoughts/have specific things you think.
Fe fi fo fum.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 27 2014 20:38 GMT
#383
I dare you to shoot me, VE.

I dare you.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 27 2014 20:40 GMT
#384
On April 28 2014 05:25 prplhz wrote:
Is it possible to give away posts?


From the OP:

Special Anti-Spam Rules:


A primary concern of this game is to give a reduced spam environment where people can still participate without needing a large number of hours to sift through gigantic filters and 300 page threads. Currently the plan is to have a day cycle post limit of 25 posts, and night post cycle limit of 5 per player. Any player is free to give up to 10 of their posts to another player in case a situation pops up like a heated defense. This rule will not be absolutely strictly enforced so you don't have to watching over your shoulder at every turn, but is more of a guideline in hopes of making the thread more readable.


If you want to donate posts, post in thread and/or PM me how many you are donating to and to who.

As stated though, no player may give away more than 10 posts.
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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
April 27 2014 20:46 GMT
#385
In case someone is wondering why I haven't been posting, it's because of dreamhack. After it ends, gonna take a proper read, post my thoughts before going to sleep. Won't be online for deadline.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
April 27 2014 20:47 GMT
#386
EBWOP: Anyone need posts in the meanwhile? I won't be needing all of mine remaining for the day cycle.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 27 2014 20:49 GMT
#387
This is my 21th post. Trow me 5 pls.
Remember that is is MAJORITY lynch.

Also Europe will need sleep.

So I am pretty sure that unless shizzle happens now SnB dies or we no lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 27 2014 20:50 GMT
#388
On April 27 2014 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like whatever you don't like my townread of Caller. Cool story bros.

##Unvote
##Vote: Caller


Maybe you're right. The remainder of my posts will be about other players. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

btw, this was your last post before I called you out, and it smells, mr. eyes
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 27 2014 20:54 GMT
#389
Mod Announcement:


Cephiro has donated Koshi 2 posts.


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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 27 2014 20:57 GMT
#390
On April 28 2014 05:47 Cephiro wrote:
EBWOP: Anyone need posts in the meanwhile? I won't be needing all of mine remaining for the day cycle.

Please.

Aaaand I am out. Yamato I second VE, please pick it up, and Prplhz of course I say nothing- this is post 25.

WoS

WHAT. WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO TO MAKE THE GAME BETTER. WE EVEN HAVE POST RESTRICTION WHAT IS THIS? SSON I PUT DRUNK CHICKENS YOU ARE NOT ENTERTAINED? I EVEN HAVE ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED CHICKEN

I mean what do you want out of a mafia game? Get in here, figure it out- or gladly I will accept thine posts!!!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 27 2014 20:58 GMT
#391
Are actions such as votes and shots considere posts?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 27 2014 21:00 GMT
#392
As far as geript goes, these two posts are smelly smelly:

On April 27 2014 08:28 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 08:19 yamato77 wrote:
I do not yet have a single good townread.

Game is hard.

How is this even possible? Last reread I had 3 and none of those included Odin who I was trying to figure out if he could post that much as scum or post what he did as scum. Right now I'm leaning town on him. I get that a number of people haven't posted but you don't have any reads as of yet? Wtf Yam?
9


Shitty post, no reason to yell at me, most people rightly read me town.

On April 27 2014 15:46 geript wrote:
I think I'm wrong on Koshi. That case on SnB is really quite good. BH's less so but not awful. Koshi for right now is the hero this town deserves. I'm really disappointed that I didn't see this before :/ S&B's early filter from Catastrophe HERE looks really different, but I'm not quite sure how that translates over. I compared it to his filter from Sicilian HERE where he was mafia dayvig. BH's points against S&B actually look a lot better on that because S&B was so "I don't know" and 50/50 on shit. In comparison, S&B looks a bit hedgy in his posts in Catastrophe but his posts come off as more matter of fact or that it's just how he feels. Whereas in Sicilian, it just looks and feels like he's saying stuff because he feels compelled to talk. I don't think that Koshi's point from his list post (says "let's talk about who we think are scum bu doesn't") is a good one, but damn I really like his short case on S&B.
#unvote
#vote strongandbig

11


Spends all game up to this point calling koshi mafia -> sheeps the snb case as the wagon forms.

Also, this "block style" posting he's doing and the faked anger is indicative of mafia geript.
Writer@WriterYamato
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 27 2014 21:02 GMT
#393
On April 28 2014 05:47 Cephiro wrote:
EBWOP: Anyone need posts in the meanwhile? I won't be needing all of mine remaining for the day cycle.

Yes please!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 27 2014 21:08 GMT
#394
On April 28 2014 05:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Are actions such as votes and shots considere posts?


Yes.

Also, for future post-donations, please announce it in-thread with the command:


##Donate: <#posts> to <player>


I want to avoid making a mod announcement for every trivial donation.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 27 2014 21:13 GMT
#395
On April 28 2014 04:27 Foolishness wrote:
I've already had the liberty of going through Cephiro's past games. He hasn't been mafia in a while and when he is he's very apathetic in his play, while his town posts are very definitive thoughts that he's having. Based on his one post so far this game he's probably town, but a read on him later in the game will tell for sure. Really it's simple, in a day or two ask yourself, "has Cephiro been trying to help the town?" If yes, then town. If no, then kill with fire. Don't need to over-think him.

Cephiro was just recently mafia in Cell where he came in and made 1 big post and mostly fucked off. I don't think that there's any reason to clear him in any realistic way based on that for sure.

On April 28 2014 05:47 Cephiro wrote:
EBWOP: Anyone need posts in the meanwhile? I won't be needing all of mine remaining for the day cycle.

Yes. You need to donate posts to yourself and then use them. Like I've been following Dreamhack and playing D&D and been able to make posts and shit. You can do the same.

On April 28 2014 05:38 yamato77 wrote:
I dare you to shoot me, VE.

I dare you.

Please do. I'd be 100% happy to see this lazy ass yam be shot. He's done nothing useful and if I had a gun I'd shoot him for being useless when I know he doesn't have to be. The only problem with this of course is that there's way too many useless people in this game right now who are not clearly town.

On April 28 2014 01:38 strongandbig wrote:
What I'm saying is, even though caller did throw a nuke and looked like scum, I try to judge whether I agree with his reactions and reasoning about other players separately from whether I think those reactions and reasoning make him scum. Sometimes those conclusions feed into each other, like if someone's reasoning is bad and I can find a scum motivation for that bad reasoning.

His reactions were nothing and nothing essentially and you townread him for it? There was no reasoning for nuking Palmer at that time and no clear motivation for said reasonings, so how does that work towards Caller being more town. Like this part was just an exceptionally fail part of the whole post. Hell, like you calling Caller's fake nuke worthless and NAI is pretty much bullshit imo. I don't see a point in fake nuking D1 as mafia when you can save that to protect a partner later on or do other shit with it. I find how he used it pretty towny because it started discussion instantly which is pretty hard to do in a post restriction game imo.

Honestly, I'm like super pissed at Wave and Palmer right now. Wave has done jack shit all day. Banks is being an MIA asshole. Palmer is just providing reads without any fucking reason; I'm happy to see his ass shot too; as far as I'm concerned he's claimed scum too many times now. SnB looks to be a solid lynch.

I remember seeing that Austin had a scum read on Oats. I strongly disagree with that. I wish I had the energy to go look at the catastrophy QT again to see how his mentality lines up.

I could get behind a BH lynch if I didn't think that he's been worse than I remember him used to being. IDK, maybe LIX overinflated my opinion of him for all time.

I don't really get Fool's push on prplhz. Like I get what he's saying, but I just don't read that as automatically scummy.

RoL useless should be shot. I'm kinda surprised that BH isn't in any way poking at him whatsoever. I figure that considering their history and BH being the type of player he is, that BH would've poked or prodded him some by now. That feels a bit weird to me.

Prplhz's response to Fool is weird to me. Like it's a pretty drastic change from how I saw him in Cell. Like he's way more jerkface/assholy than he was in cell where he came from the position that he would and should be cleared for specific reasons. I'm not really getting that at all here.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 27 2014 21:20 GMT
#396
On April 28 2014 05:22 prplhz wrote:
People who are at the very least trying:
VisceraEyes
Koshi
Alakaslam (maybe)
WaveofShadow
strongandbig
OdinOfPergo
Blazinghand
justanothertownie
geript
VayneAuthority (maybe)
austinmcc

People who make me angry:
Blazinghand
Oatsmaster
Ace
Foolishness
sandroba
Palmar

People who /in'd this game because Ver is hosting even though they don't actually want to play in this game:
RebirthOfLeGenD
Ace
gumshoe (maybe)

Lol I'm not even sure I could consider my activity so after 'trying.'
snb not scum
foolishness nice meta evidence from a year ago when SnB literally JUST played a really solid town game where he explains himself in paragraphs like you said.

Dunno who I wanna vote.
Getting weird feels from VE ---- mebbe because I'm not used to him actually trying lately?
BH has actually decided to play this game which is non-indicative but his aggressive ego push on SnB is a style he tends to use more often as scum than town. Also his 'non-care' games lately have been more from town though obvs he likes to change stuff up
Dunno
My posting kinda shit so far
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 27 2014 21:21 GMT
#397
wave what's your read on geript?
Writer@WriterYamato
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
April 27 2014 21:22 GMT
#398
##Donate: 3 posts to justanothertownie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
April 27 2014 21:22 GMT
#399
Wait RoL is in this game
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 27 2014 21:25 GMT
#400
On April 28 2014 06:13 geript wrote:
I remember seeing that Austin had a scum read on Oats. I strongly disagree with that. I wish I had the energy to go look at the catastrophy QT again to see how his mentality lines up.
He did. In fact, 60% of his posts have either concerned his oats read or asking people about his oats read. For reference, here is the read - + Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2014 02:58 austinmcc wrote:
Out of people who have posted, Oats is my least favorite poster so far. Filter.

First posts - Caller isn't mafia because this is a scummy way to use a nuke and scumCaller would do something that looked a little townier with it + geript is mafia for pushing a lynch on Caller at this point and masking it as policy.

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well Palmar says he doesnt have a gun though.

What caller is doing if hes scum is totally outing himself, wasting his nuke on someone he has no idea is gonna play or not and essentially trading himself 1 for 1 especially with so much kp in the game someone is gonna shoot him. So fucking stupid it cant be scum. That is a legit heuristic. I could see scumCaller doing this day 2/3 but not now man come on. Also Palmar is not acting in a town-like fashion so yeah, evidence suggests that Caller is town and we dont kill townies.
Get your votes off him and onto geript/Ace/All the promoters of Caller scum. I prefer geript though, Ace could be this boneheaded as town.

Blindly trusting Palmar = meh. The bolded is my least favorite SENTENCE in the game so far. Two things about it. One is that while you can read it as "Palmar is now talking about screwing town over, therefore he's anti-town, and scumCaller wouldn't have nuked anti-town Palmar", it ALSO smells like this weird bootstrapped argument, because Palmar hadn't done anything anti-town at the point of the nuke, and so using Palmar's later behavior to partially justify Caller being town/Caller nuking Palmar feels smelly smelly. Does anyone else read that sentence as a weird justification for Caller's actions (nuking anti-town Palmar) rather than a comment on Caller's alignment given how Palmar's later play goes? Anyway, also keep that comment in mind for second reason it's relevant.


Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 01:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
man wtf yamato why are you derailing a lynch and not proposing anything else you useless bastard.
For the record, I am totes fine with SnB lynch and I now think that geript is not scum because he dropped his policy lynch. Which he had arguably more reason to continue with
##unvote
##vote SnB

Im going to sleep, kill scum guyys pls.
Geript was mafia because he was masking a shitty lynch as "policy." Now he's not mafia because he dropped his "policy" lynch, which he would have continued with as mafia.

Oats has no reason to think geript is town for this. If someone pushes a lynch you think is shitty and tries to mask it as policy, you're saying THEY ARE MAFIA for doing that. Town doesn't try to get mislynches ever, not by hiding behind "policy", not by hiding behind other words, town doesn't ever push mislynches, they push people they think are mafia. Oats is saying Geript was basically making up reasons to push Caller --> was pushing mislynches --> should be mafia, the end. His giving up that push doesn't make him "not scum," he simply stopped pushing Caller, but the push itself was there and appears to be scum-minded from Oats and just stopping it SHOULD NOT swap Oat's read. (That point is not expressed as well as it should be, but you should get the gist).

ALSO --> at this point Caller's nuke was modconfirmed dud. ~12 hours before this. Oats pops into the thread to say he doesn't think geript is mafia anymore (which I don't like), vote SnB, and says NOTHING about the nuke/caller/Palmar. Remember that Geript was claiming earlier that Palmar was playing anti-town, and this was one reason Caller was townie (Caller was town for shooting Palmar, who later played anti-town, meaning Palmar was not town-aligned, and Caller has to be town for shooting someone not town-aligned). For someone who thinks Palmar isn't town-aligned, WHY IS HE NOT VOTING PALMAR OR MENTIONING PALMAR?!

This is, imo, the biggest thing. Oats says Palmar was playing anti-town, is SO SURE Palmar is anti-town that part of why Caller is town is that his nuke is going on someone anti-town, but he doesn't vote Palmar, he doesn't talk about Palmar's pardon, he doesn't talk about Caller's nuke being fake and on Palmar, he just does what I feel to be a poopy 180 on Geript, then votes SnB without really any significant comment, without showing interest in a dude he thought was anti-town or any followup to the fake nuke.

(You guys should vote oats too!)

##vote: Oatsmaster



Why do you strongly disagree?







Also, VE,
On April 28 2014 02:58 austinmcc wrote:
VE, can you give me your thoughts on caller's alignment re: nuke targeting, given the nuke was fake and not real? (your bit on how caller targeted palmar over foolishness/ace)
On April 28 2014 04:02 austinmcc wrote:
What's the #1 scummy thing about BH?


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